HD 5670 Reviews

[onethreehill]

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=3109
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews.php?reviewid=915
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5670-review-test-crossfire/
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21916
http://hothardware.com/Articles/ATI-Radeon-HD-5670-DX11-For-Under-100/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/27732-sapphire-hd-5670-1gb-gddr5-review.html
http://www.elitebastards.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1132&catid=13:hardware-reviews&Itemid=27
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2010/test_ati_radeon_hd_5670/
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=441&Itemid=72
http://lab501.ro/placi-video/his-hd-5670-vs-gigabyte-gt-240/
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3720
http://techreport.com/articles.x/18288
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/hd5670launch/
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2358040,00.asp
http://translate.google.cn/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=zh-CN&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.pcpop.com/doc/0/488/488100.shtml&sl=auto&tl=en
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1187/1/
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1776
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_5670_performance/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5670,2533.html
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=857
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_5670_IceQ/
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/01/14/ati-radeon-hd-5670-review/1
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/01/14/amds_ati_radeon_hd_5670_review

[96redformula]

If really at < $100 US it is a steal of a card IMO. Much higher than 4670 with the early drivers too.

[Pontos]

So, we have 800 shaders (HD5770) and 400 shaders (HD5670) as replacement for the previous generation. Maybe they will release a replacement for the HD4770 (640 shaders) as the HD5730 or something like that?

Although with the HD5770 at ~$160 and the HD5750 at ~$140 there's no real reason to add another card for a potential ~$120 segment and saturate the production...

[CraptacularOne]

So, we have 800 shaders (HD5770) and 400 shaders (HD5670) as replacement for the previous generation. Maybe they will release a replacement for the HD4770 (640 shaders) as the HD5730 or something like that?

Although with the HD5770 at ~$160 and the HD5750 at ~$140 there's no real reason to add another card for a potential ~$120 segment and saturate the production...

The HD5770 and HD5750 are the replacements for the HD4770 and HD4750.

[alpha0ne]

Looks like it runs a little too hot for HTPC usage using the std cooler

[grimREEFER]

well, its the cheapest card that can bitstream hd audio, and it is fairly energy efficient. a good htpc card.
for gaming, its hard to top the $100 4850's that are floating around. those basically thrash anything that cost remotely the same amount.

[Baulten]

Hmmm... Beastly little card. A little bigger then I expected it would be... but still not too shabby.

[~CS~]

Not sure what Ati is trying to do here , this thing has more bandwidth then 4770 while having less SP's? 128 bus plus 4000 mhz gddr .Not a big deal just strange , have gddr5 have gotten cheaper then gddr3 ?

[Lokinhow]

Not sure what Ati is trying to do here , this thing has more bandwidth then 4770 while having less SP's? 128 bus plus 4000 mhz gddr .Not a big deal just strange , have gddr5 have gotten cheaper then gddr3 ?

Gddr3 probably is cheaper, but GDDR3 on this card would cause it to be bandwidth limited.
Maybe GDDR5 memory that can reach 4GHz is not more expensive than the GDDR5 in HD4770 cards.

[Macadamia]

Not sure what Ati is trying to do here , this thing has more bandwidth then 4770 while having less SP's? 128 bus plus 4000 mhz gddr .Not a big deal just strange , have gddr5 have gotten cheaper then gddr3 ?

Not exactly yet, but enough cheap (1.3-1.5x cost I'd say) that ATI can make their whole range of GPUs use GDDR5.

Envy 15's 5830 uses GDDR3, but again it's under TDP reasons instead.

[s0lid]

Lets see does that card OC well as my HD4670, 1025/1030 :fact:

If it does, DAAAAAAMN

[Baulten]

Not sure what Ati is trying to do here , this thing has more bandwidth then 4770 while having less SP's? 128 bus plus 4000 mhz gddr .Not a big deal just strange , have gddr5 have gotten cheaper then gddr3 ?

They're trying to fill out their lineup of 5xx0 cards. It's what they did with the 4xx0 series; everything from the 4870x2 down to the 4350. Things might look strange compared to the 4000 series, but compared to other cards in the 5000 series it shows a typical trend going from high performance to entry level (or will). I imagine we won't see GDDR3 except maybe on the 5300 and 5400 series.

[[XC] Oj101]

Less TMUs than the 4670? I wonder how they'll compare, maybe I'll replace mine.

[~CS~]

Not exactly yet, but enough cheap (1.3-1.5x cost I'd say) that ATI can make their whole range of GPUs use GDDR5.

Envy 15's 5830 uses GDDR3, but again it's under TDP reasons instead.

As far as i know gddr5 uses less voltage and thus less power .


I did found something interesting tho ,"Joe Macri is Director of Technology at AMD… and in parallel is the president of the JEDEC committee which is involved in defining DRAM memory standards." not sure if still the case , but it would give them an advantage and influence as to where the gddr5 prices will go plus i imagine buying more dgrr5 in bulk does reduce price enough to make gddr3 redundant .As far as gddr3 bottle necking the card i highly doubt , gddr5 will provide higher bandwidth and lower latencies but performance impact will be minimal .

[Macadamia]

As far as i know gddr5 uses less voltage and thus less power .


I did found something interesting tho ,"Joe Macri is Director of Technology at AMD… and in parallel is the president of the JEDEC committee which is involved in defining DRAM memory standards." not sure if still the case , but it would give them an advantage and influence as to where the gddr5 prices will go plus i imagine buying more dgrr5 in bulk does reduce price enough to make gddr3 redundant .As far as gddr3 bottle necking the card i highly doubt , gddr5 will provide higher bandwidth and lower latencies but performance impact will be minimal .

1. Although less voltage is used you have ~2X the clock speeds. In an ideal condition voltage power scaling is exponential while clock power scaling is linear. So it's not as clear cut yet, especially on desktop, but mobile wise AMD is offering GDDR3 GPUs with higher clocks relative to the GDDR5 ones at the same TDP.

2. Performance impact should be large enough on a 128-bit bus, see GT240's 2 variants. Brutal. It gets even sweeter on a 64-bit bus where clocks/voltage are both low and GDDR5/3 only accounts to ~2W difference (5470)

[Dante80]

Give us a good fanless variant with GDDR5, and I'm sold...:)

[[XC] Oj101]

AMEN to the above, else I'll unplug the fan and run a 120mm Zalman F3-ZM under it.

[Helmore]

Not exactly yet, but enough cheap (1.3-1.5x cost I'd say) that ATI can make their whole range of GPUs use GDDR5.

Envy 15's 5830 uses GDDR3, but again it's under TDP reasons instead.

I guess I must have misread AMD's slides concerning the launch of their Mobility Radeon 5000 series cards, but I thought their GDDR5 models had a lower TDP than the DDR3. Not entirely sure about GDDR3 though.

You also have to remember that the currently available GDDR5 memory is not comparable to the first iterations we had in for example the 4870 and future versions may be even better from a power consumption perspective. That's partially because of improvements to manufacturing, but mainly because they have been making slight changes to how it operates and will continue to do so in the future.

[bladerash]

Lets see does that card OC well as my HD4670, 1025/1030 :fact:

If it does, DAAAAAAMN
doubt it with the cheapass standard cooler. Despite its low power consumption being a hothead, obviously the standard cooling solution sucks.
Maybe with a vaporX edition.

[s0lid]

doubt it with the cheapass standard cooler. Despite its low power consumption being a hothead, obviously the standard cooling solution sucks.
Maybe with a vaporX edition.

wasn't talking about stock cooler :p:
I'm using AC Twin turbo accelero.

[SKYMTL]

Looks like the article was removed. ;)

[Caparroz]

Looks like the article was removed. ;)

Yep. :shrug:

I'm looking for a new HTCP card, this should be perfect with a decent cooler.

For those who read the article, I suppose the 5670 has native HDMI out, right?

[SKYMTL]

All new ATI cards have native HDMI out.

Makes me wonder if the review took the price of the card versus the HD 5750 into consideration if they gave it such a positive review.

[Frodin]

Do these lower cards still have Eyefinity? Damn, I wanted to read that review.

[Caparroz]

All new ATI cards have native HDMI out.

Makes me wonder if the review took the price of the card versus the HD 5750 into consideration if they gave it such a positive review.

Thanks for the info. :up: It's been a while since I went shopping for a low-end card so I wasn't sure.

I think this VGA doesn't make any sense from a pure 3D performance standpoint so any sort of comparison with a 5750 is kinda pointless, IMHO. I mean, a 4850 (wich is comparable to a 5750) sells for almost free today and I'm sure it almost doubles 5670's performance in games.

[Florinmocanu]

Your wrong. Generally, in 1280:1024 and 1680:1050 the 5670 trails really close to a 9800GT, so you can imagine that it has good value.

Plus, 4850 won't be produced anymore by ati in the following months, you won't find new ones in the future so this product will have a really good reason, decent performance, low price, low power consumption, good features.

[Caparroz]

Your wrong. Generally, in 1280:1024 and 1680:1050 the 5670 trails really close to a 9800GT, so you can imagine that it has good value.

Plus, 4850 won't be produced anymore by ati in the following months, you won't find new ones in the future so this product will have a really good reason, decent performance, low price, low power consumption, good features.

Wow, that's surprising! :shocked:

I didn't get to read the review so I was making an assumption based on the 400 shaders (leading to fewer ROPs and TMUs) information.

[SKYMTL]

I think this VGA doesn't make any sense from a pure 3D performance standpoint so any sort of comparison with a 5750 is kinda pointless, IMHO. I mean, a 4850 (wich is comparable to a 5750) sells for almost free today and I'm sure it almost doubles 5670's performance in games.

You can't really compare the 5670 to the HD 4850 though since the feature sets are totally different. A 5000 series part will naturally command a price premium due to its use of DX11, Eyefinity and its efficiency.

Just consider that the HD 5750 is retailing for $130 (with rebate) for the 1GB version and $120 (with rebate) for the 512MB version.

As for the 9800 GT, IMO it hasn't been a good value for a VERY long time anyways....

[SnipingWaste]

I read it last night and to answer some questions, it has Eyefinity and it has 1 DVI, 1 HDMI, and 1 DP. Its like the HD4670 as both Xfire and non Xfire cards will be for sale.

[Caparroz]

You can't really compare the 5670 to the HD 4850 though since the feature sets are totally different. A 5000 series part will naturally command a price premium due to its use of DX11, Eyefinity and its efficiency.

Just consider that the HD 5750 is retailing for $130 (with rebate) for the 1GB version and $120 (with rebate) for the 512MB version.

Yea, I know that but I was considering that the 5670 will be to weak for DX11 and Eyefinity gaming. I agree with you that the 5750 is a far better choice considering it's only $30'ish more.

As you can see I'm not a native English speaker so I can sound pretty confusing sometimes... :p:

[SKYMTL]

I read it last night and to answer some questions, it has Eyefinity and it has 1 DVI, 1 HDMI, and 1 DP. Its like the HD4670 as both Xfire and non Xfire cards will be for sale.

Remember, there is such a thing as SOFTWARE Crossfire.

[Newblar]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4197733#post4197733

perkam put up the pics from the down link

[mindfury]

PCPOP review:
http://translate.google.cn/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=zh-CN&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.pcpop.com/doc/0/488/488100.shtml&sl=auto&tl=en

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[LordEC911]

Ummm... typo/misprint on the number of ROPs?
It only has 8ROPs... all the other numbers are right.

[Macadamia]

Ummm... typo/misprint on the number of ROPs?
It only has 8ROPs... all the other numbers are right.

8 ROP units, 4x the Zfill rate per unit, aka "32" ROPs for Z-fill.

The 80SP IGP has the same Zfill as a 2900XT clock for clock :rofl:

[mindfury]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/lixianglover/1001141145ab372d6811ccad57.jpg

[LordEC911]

Aarrrgghhhh...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/lixianglover/1001141145ab372d6811ccad57.jpg
Thanks.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1401/5670rops.png

Edit- Compared to Cypress slides
http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_cards/ati/5910/5970b.png


8 ROP units, 4x the Zfill rate per unit, aka "32" ROPs for Z-fill.

The 80SP IGP has the same Zfill as a 2900XT clock for clock :rofl:
Doesn't go along with Cypress slides.
If we were to go off what you said, the Cypress slide should have 64ROPs and Hemlock should be 128ROPs.

[onethreehill]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/denniszzz/5670PCSCard.jpg

HDMI + DVI + VGA
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/denniszzz/5670PCSSide2.jpg


http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=43242643&postcount=114

[Micutzu]

HD 5670 (http://lab501.ro/placi-video/his-hd-5670-vs-gigabyte-gt-240/) review on lab501.ro (romanian)

english translation (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Flab501.ro%2Fplaci-video%2Fhis-hd-5670-vs-gigabyte-gt-240%2F&sl=ro&tl=en) (Google Translate)

[onethreehill]

Reviews
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews.php?reviewid=915
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5670-review-test-crossfire/
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21916
http://hothardware.com/Articles/ATI-Radeon-HD-5670-DX11-For-Under-100/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/27732-sapphire-hd-5670-1gb-gddr5-review.html
http://www.elitebastards.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1132&catid=13:hardware-reviews&Itemid=27
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2010/test_ati_radeon_hd_5670/
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=441&Itemid=72

[Manicdan]

HD 5670 (http://lab501.ro/placi-video/his-hd-5670-vs-gigabyte-gt-240/) review on lab501.ro (romanian)

english translation (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Flab501.ro%2Fplaci-video%2Fhis-hd-5670-vs-gigabyte-gt-240%2F&sl=ro&tl=en) (Google Translate)

i think there might be a translation issue with units, they keep saying 350 USD for the card, and other values all seemed quite high as well

[Micutzu]

It's actually 350 in local currency, RON, the rough equivalent of US$ 100.

[onethreehill]

Reviews
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3720
http://techreport.com/articles.x/18288
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/hd5670launch/
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2358040,00.asp

[aznsniper911]

Now when can I buy one of these babies?

[Razzz]

100449 (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techsweden.org%2Frecension%2FtW S9-ati-hd-5670-nytt-prisvart-grafikkort%2F&sl=sv&tl=en)

Ours:
Google translatet that works best with mozilla. Many game tests!
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techsweden.org%2Frecension%2FtW S9-ati-hd-5670-nytt-prisvart-grafikkort%2F&sl=sv&tl=en
http://www.techsweden.org/recension/tWS9-ati-hd-5670-nytt-prisvart-grafikkort/

[alpha0ne]

I'd like to torture a pair of these x-fire :yepp:

[NickF]

Support for 7.1 audio and Dolby True HD and DTS Master Audio has got it down for me, along with the new updated UVD.

[Nedjo]

people missing one of the crucial slides from the press deck:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5889/hd5670cespressdeckv17fi.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/hd5670cespressdeckv17fi.jpg/)

this research shows how important is to have small, cheap, high volume New Gen. part on the market! It also shows how much pain is still in front of NVIDIA 'cos of the fact that in Q2 they'll have only very high end DX11 part, and esentialy nothing in the mass market!

[strange|ife]

not bad for the price. My 4870 bit the dust a week ago, running my 8800 GTS right now. 5850's need to come down a bit in price, before i bite on a low end card. Although, i dont game much anymore so something like this would probably be more than enough for Project reality, and some TDU online, and fallout 3

[Manicdan]

people missing one of the crucial slides from the press deck:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5889/hd5670cespressdeckv17fi.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/hd5670cespressdeckv17fi.jpg/)

this research shows how important is to have small, cheap, high volume New Gen. part on the market! It also shows how much pain is still in front of NVIDIA 'cos of the fact that in Q2 they'll have only very high end DX11 part, and esentialy nothing in the mass market!

one big flaw, <100$ gpu of what series? i can enjoy wow and any hl2 based game with a 50$ 5000 series gpu, but these games are 5 years old, are they saying that 4 years ago a 100$ gpu was good enough (i really doubt that part)

[eric66]

people missing one of the crucial slides from the press deck:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5889/hd5670cespressdeckv17fi.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/hd5670cespressdeckv17fi.jpg/)

this research shows how important is to have small, cheap, high volume New Gen. part on the market! It also shows how much pain is still in front of NVIDIA 'cos of the fact that in Q2 they'll have only very high end DX11 part, and esentialy nothing in the mass market!
they are actually right 5770 series are most selling ones and custom cooling models always come first to that segment

[Aerwidh]

one big flaw, <100$ gpu of what series? i can enjoy wow and any hl2 based game with a 50$ 5000 series gpu, but these games are 5 years old, are they saying that 4 years ago a 100$ gpu was good enough (i really doubt that part)

I'd say the most reasonable thing is to assume they mean gpu series still shipping/being sold around Q4 2009, seeing as how that date is mentioned in the source note.

[Manicdan]

I'd say the most reasonable thing is to assume they mean gpu series still shipping/being sold around Q4 2009, seeing as how that date is mentioned in the source note.

charts + assume = bad charts

good assumption though. however i wonder what kind of crap is still laying around that isnt produced anymore but still gets sold

[Aerwidh]

charts + assume = bad charts

Yeah, it's not a very clear chart.


however i wonder what kind of crap is still laying around that isnt produced anymore but still gets sold

You mean from AMD/ATi directly, or from resellers?
The former, no idea. The latter, well... During the latter half of 2008 I worked at a fairly large Swedish store chain that still sold nVidia's FX5200 for something like 300-400 SEK (~30-40 Euros), we even sold some while I was at the cash register. :confused: I think they have stopped by now, but there are still FX5200 cards floating around a little here and there. :D

[Monstru]

Ah, you'd be amazed =))

In April we had a competition, 2k1 with a fixed variety of VGA's to choose from. In two weeks, all HD 4350, HD 3470, HD 2400XT and 8200GS stocks here were litteraly cleared out. That means there were HD 3470 and Hd 2400XT stocks left on the market before this competition :D

[96redformula]

[H] has their review up now.

http://hardocp.com/article/2010/01/14/amds_ati_radeon_hd_5670_review

[onethreehill]

Reviews
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1187/1/
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1776
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_5670_performance/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5670,2533.html
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=857
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_5670_IceQ/
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/01/14/ati-radeon-hd-5670-review/1

[onethreehill]

Now when can I buy one of these babies?
@newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Description=hd%205670&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=PRICE

[annihilat0r]

I don't understand this card. According to Techpowerup it performs approximately the same as a 9600GT, which I can buy for $65. What makes it worth 1.5 times the price of a card it performs similar to? Tessellation? :P

[|SiLA|]

I don't understand this card. According to Techpowerup it performs approximately the same as a 9600GT, which I can buy for $65. What makes it worth 1.5 times the price of a card it performs similar to? Tessellation? :P

DX11

[cowie]

i'v been playing with one of these cards for a few days...its dx11 that means one thing only it can play dx11 but with Tessellation its very very slow even at lower res(1078x840)dont get this card for dx11 games.overall my 98gtx+ is way better and my 96gt is a tad slower but for all intended purposes is about the same.
i guess for this price its ok overall but for dx11 it is so not good.
IMHO^

[Manicdan]

for 0-10$ more you can get a 4850, uses a few more watts but gets 30+% more power.

your paying for dx11, 40nm, and single slot cooling for some. its the most power for its size, but not the most for its price

[Monstru]

They are applying the added value strategy. Strictly for non-DX11 game power, you can get HD4850 at 119$ MSRP price. HD5670 brings DX 11, Eyefinity (which can be very usefull in office work if you have 2-3 monitors), HDMI 1.3a, 40nm (less power consumption, less heat, less noise). So it is up to the buyer to decide what he needs most. And frankly, from my point of view, this strategy has only one reason - the fact that the competition does not have a competitive new solution in that price range.

[annihilat0r]

They are applying the added value strategy. Strictly for non-DX11 game power, you can get HD4850 at 119$ MSRP price. HD5670 brings DX 11, Eyefinity (which can be very usefull in office work if you have 2-3 monitors), HDMI 1.3a, 40nm (less power consumption, less heat, less noise). So it is up to the buyer to decide what he needs most. And frankly, from my point of view, this strategy has only one reason - the fact that the competition does not have a competitive new solution in that price range.

Yes, the competition sucks, but don't you have to turn this into your advantage by offering flat out better choices? You have the newer technology, lower node, lower die size, lower heat etc etc, but still you make a g94 performance product and price it way above G94. This is not how you take advantage of horrible competition. You could just price it lower and kill each and every reason for buying something Nvidia (or from your older generations) but instead you are offering "alternatives".

I don't understand, maybe yield issues of TSMC? :shrug: