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Monstru
12-16-2009, 07:51 AM
Finnaly we can all enjoy the official 9.12 release. From what I can see, the performance boost is significant. I am curious how multi-card performance has impproved.

ATI Catalyst 9.12 (http://lab501.ro/download?did=46)


Sorry for the low speed with US and Asia, this is Eastern European hosting, which works great here, but not so good outside :(

Manicdan
12-16-2009, 07:53 AM
F yeah, maybe they fixed that driver has stopped responding issue

Nedjo
12-16-2009, 07:54 AM
thanks for the link, but the version is 8.68, not 8.14 ;)

Monstru
12-16-2009, 08:01 AM
From what I knew these were the final ones. Am I wrong?

Motiv
12-16-2009, 08:13 AM
F yeah, maybe they fixed that driver has stopped responding issue


When you try to install them?

SKYMTL
12-16-2009, 08:21 AM
I really hope these work better than the 9.12 Betas. Those saw very few (if any) performance increases and didn't help one bit with the massive issues people have been having in Saboteur.

EnJoY
12-16-2009, 08:41 AM
Terry Makedon's twitter mentions the official release is scheduled for tomorrow for any of those who'd rather wait a day than use a random url here.

Monstru
12-16-2009, 08:53 AM
I'm very happy with my "random" url, thanks ;)


While some are waiting, others are having fun. From what loc-o reported so far, the performance gain is indeed interesting.


Catalyst 9.12 looks good :D

9.10:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/EVGA%20E762/VP23x2013xCFX1000-120035266.jpg

9.12:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/EVGA%20E762/VP23x2013xCFX9121000-120036344.jpg

Pyr0
12-16-2009, 08:56 AM
the drivers originally came from sapphire, and just rehosted at due to the crappy dl speeds

[edit] original link
http://markholmes.sapphiretech.com/Drivers/Catalyst/9_12/catalyst_9.12_windows_7_vista_dec14.zip

Manicdan
12-16-2009, 08:59 AM
When you try to install them?

google the issue "driver has stopped responding" and you will find alot of people with cards from 2900 to 5xx0 all having the card randomly crash, but recovers after a screen flicker. which currently is being looked at pointing the blame on microsoft.

zalbard
12-16-2009, 09:03 AM
Nice fps boost. :)
I will probably install them tomorrow, though, no time today... Hope there are gonna be no issues.

Motiv
12-16-2009, 09:10 AM
google the issue "driver has stopped responding" and you will find alot of people with cards from 2900 to 5xx0 all having the card randomly crash, but recovers after a screen flicker. which currently is being looked at pointing the blame on microsoft.

Yep, i can't anywhere with the old drivers. Was going to wait for these and if it happened again, do the old "un-install everything until it works" fix :)

Well at least I know it's not just me now :)

Manicdan
12-16-2009, 09:13 AM
it was supposedly related to a simple spike in FPS and windows interpreted it as a crash and would restart the drivers. it was non stop for me on 9.9 and 9.11 helped alot. hopefully they fixed it. hundreds of RMAs were caused by this issue

Soultaker52
12-16-2009, 09:31 AM
Both links are rather slow for me (2kb/s max). Anyone got a mirror?

STaRGaZeR
12-16-2009, 09:31 AM
Can someone upload them to a hosting site? Sapphire is slow as :banana::banana::banana::banana:, lab501 is even worse and full of ads (even in the filename) on top of that. :rolleyes:

r0lfi
12-16-2009, 09:40 AM
Does anyone got a better download link?

-Goolux

Monstru
12-16-2009, 09:46 AM
Can someone upload them to a hosting site? Sapphire is slow as :banana::banana::banana::banana:, lab501 is even worse and full of ads (even in the filename) on top of that. :rolleyes:
It might be slow for US and Asia, but I doubt is slow for Europe...

What ads? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

NickF
12-16-2009, 09:47 AM
I'm waiting for them to go live on AMD game.

Pyr0
12-16-2009, 10:15 AM
vista/win7 ones are on mediafire:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mnmtt5nemmm

@ NickF, you'll be waiting till tomorrow then

CraptacularOne
12-16-2009, 10:43 AM
These drivers are awesome :) I got over 2k more in Vantage with these while using the same clock speeds:

9.11 hot fix drivers, CPU @ 4.3Ghz, HD5870's @ 1100/5400, 8800GS at 750/1880/2000

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1679872

9.12 drivers, CPU @ 4.3Ghz, HD5870's @ 1100/5400, 8800GS @ 750/1880/2000

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1691926

And as for games I'm seeing on average anywhere from a 15 - 20 frames more per second in Dirt 2, Crysis, and Farcry 2. These drivers are definitely keepers :up:

Monstru
12-16-2009, 11:19 AM
2k!!!!!!!! :eek:

That is truly ia great impprovement!

Manicdan
12-16-2009, 11:26 AM
only for multi card setups though right? single cards are about the same?

STaRGaZeR
12-16-2009, 11:29 AM
It might be slow for US and Asia, but I doubt is slow for Europe...

What ads? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Yes, for Europe is slow, even less than 1KB/s. The site doesn't even load.

http: // lab501.ro/downloads/catalyst_9.12_lab501.ro.zip. You link to your own site, with ads, like everyone these days in the news section. We know you want clicks, really. Also you're not the original source, right? Knowing all this, why do you ask what ads? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Nedjo
12-16-2009, 11:34 AM
only for multi card setups though right? single cards are about the same?
well CraptacularOne has single HD 5870!

Mk
12-16-2009, 11:37 AM
Whql?

CraptacularOne
12-16-2009, 11:39 AM
well CraptacularOne has single HD 5870!

No sir, I in fact have 2 of them ;)

I'll do some single card runs in a little bit, I'm having too much fun right now seeing my CF setup finally flex it's muscle in all it's glory :up:

Stanley Pain
12-16-2009, 11:46 AM
I'm very happy with my "random" url, thanks ;)


While some are waiting, others are having fun. From what loc-o reported so far, the performance gain is indeed interesting.


Any improvement in games? :D

Nedjo
12-16-2009, 11:47 AM
No sir, I in fact have 2 of them ;)

I'll do some single card runs in a little bit, I'm having too much fun right now seeing my CF setup finally flex it's muscle in all it's glory :up:
oh I see! thanks for clearing this out! so this is like Xmass gift for all CFX owners! ;) nice!

Monstru
12-16-2009, 11:51 AM
Yes, for Europe is slow, even less than 1KB/s. The site doesn't even load.

http: // lab501.ro/downloads/catalyst_9.12_lab501.ro.zip. You link to your own site, with ads, like everyone these days in the news section. We know you want clicks, really. Also you're not the original source, right? Knowing all this, why do you ask what ads? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

When you download anything from Guru3D or TechPowerUp, do you complain about their name in the file?!?!?! That is an ad :ROTF:

The original source is AMD, of course I am not the original source, I do not write the friggin drivers (god forbidd =)) ). i have it from some friends, if they want I can give them credit, but of course that is none of you bussines.

If you like it and need it, take it down and use it, if you don't, go troll somewhere else, I can write whatever I want on my hosting space. ;)




Stanley_Pain - sorry bro, did not test them in games, no time atm.


Nedjo - Terry Xmas =))

SKYMTL
12-16-2009, 11:54 AM
Well so far I can report almost zero increases in single card scores other than a pretty nice bump (about 15% average / 10% min) in DiRT with a HD 5870. FC2 performance stays the same and Saboteur still refuses to run. So far tested:

DiRT
Saboteur
Crysis: Warhead
Far Cry 2
Dawn of War II
STALKER: CoP
Unigine Heaven
Borderlands
L4D2

All in all the drivers are stable and seem to be focused towards Crossfire.

Monstru
12-16-2009, 11:56 AM
So it seems that the actual gains come from multi-GPU set-ups. That is more down to earth when you think about it, you don't usually get that much impprovement from one version to another. Anyway, this is still a nice present for most of us :)

SKYMTL
12-16-2009, 12:01 PM
So it seems that the actual gains come from multi-GPU set-ups. That is more down to earth when you think about it, you don't usually get that much impprovement from one version to another. Anyway, this is still a nice present for most of us :)

I guess we get "presents" every month from ATI then. Now if only some of those presents wouldn't be lumps of coal like the 9.8 drivers that caused me so many issues. ;)

Monstru
12-16-2009, 12:05 PM
Well, see, not all of them are "presents", some of them are...hmm...I'll rather not say :D

Manicdan
12-16-2009, 12:11 PM
edit:removed since i was replying to the previous page

iTravis
12-16-2009, 12:31 PM
A must download, thanks for the head up guys. :up:

..::G80::..
12-16-2009, 12:54 PM
Yes, for Europe is slow, even less than 1KB/s. The site doesn't even load.

http: // lab501.ro/downloads/catalyst_9.12_lab501.ro.zip. You link to your own site, with ads, like everyone these days in the news section. We know you want clicks, really. Also you're not the original source, right? Knowing all this, why do you ask what ads? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Downloading now 2.3KB/s :rofl::rofl::rofl:
:cool:

edit: 26KB/s :up:

Is that same version that Hicookie use?
http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=931616
Amazing score!

Pyr0
12-16-2009, 01:03 PM
did you guys see the mediafire link?
http://www.mediafire.com/?mnmtt5nemmm

Monstru
12-16-2009, 01:11 PM
Yes, it is the same version Hiccokie is using. :D

I think the mediafire link will work much better for US guys, it works with 150K for me in Europe, so it should be faster then my pesky hosting ( I will slay someone from this hosting company one day, mark my words...)

ColonelCain
12-16-2009, 01:53 PM
well CraptacularOne has single HD 5870!

His sig, and the fact that he says 5870's says otherwise. ;)

KB24LA
12-16-2009, 03:43 PM
Thanx for the heads up info, will update asap :yepp:

eric66
12-16-2009, 04:06 PM
i can't believe that there aren't any proper comparisons for new drivers

initialised
12-16-2009, 04:16 PM
It might be slow for US and Asia, but I doubt is slow for Europe...

What ads? :rofl::rofl::rofl:Nope, its low here too.

initialised
12-16-2009, 04:17 PM
did you guys see the mediafire link?
http://www.mediafire.com/?mnmtt5nemmmMuch better thanks.

Riska
12-16-2009, 04:27 PM
http://www.myupload.dk/showfile/386144058ba.rar/

here is a link more to the vista/winf version

initialised
12-16-2009, 04:50 PM
Any for XP yet?

STaRGaZeR
12-16-2009, 04:54 PM
When you download anything from Guru3D or TechPowerUp, do you complain about their name in the file?!?!?! That is an ad :ROTF:

The original source is AMD, of course I am not the original source, I do not write the friggin drivers (god forbidd =)) ). i have it from some friends, if they want I can give them credit, but of course that is none of you bussines.

If you like it and need it, take it down and use it, if you don't, go troll somewhere else, I can write whatever I want on my hosting space. ;)

Nice dodge. So you admit you have ads. Why did you ask "what ads" then? ;) And the Guru3D boss or Wizzard doesn't come here to post links to their sites like you do ;)

By source I meant the source that leaked the drivers, hello? :stick:

I only said your site had ads, and download was friggin slow. Instead of fixing it so people can download the freaking drivers properly, you don't post the other links to proper hosting sites in the first post and you call me a troll. Go find clicks somewhere else dude, XS is not here for you to earn €€.

Zorlac
12-16-2009, 05:01 PM
Do these fix the gray screen/vertical stripe lock-up issues????

safan80
12-16-2009, 05:15 PM
Any for XP yet?

yes

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3386762&postcount=183

NanoBullet
12-16-2009, 05:26 PM
guys on the dirt 2 is the slowdown problem corrected with the vsync on? I'm talking about single card only 5870 ;)

Otherwise it will be a gamepatch to correct it :D

G.Foyle
12-16-2009, 06:05 PM
guys on the dirt 2 is the slowdown problem corrected with the vsync on? I'm talking about single card only 5870 ;)

Otherwise it will be a gamepatch to correct it :D

+1, is vsync in Dirt2 fixed?

seanx
12-16-2009, 09:46 PM
check out this
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2033393
some ppl are giving single card gains in crysis ..!

Mk
12-16-2009, 10:46 PM
Whql?

No one answered me.. is it singed? WHQL from Ms?

ChaosMinionX
12-16-2009, 10:53 PM
No one answered me.. is it singed? WHQL from Ms?

No... it asks if you want to install a non WHQL driver.

So far so good here!

d50man
12-16-2009, 11:02 PM
man still can't get a good download speed...

initialised
12-17-2009, 02:24 AM
yes

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3386762&postcount=183Fail: Corrupt file!

Trying this one: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EOL1XBKJ

hitachi974
12-17-2009, 05:13 AM
I'm very happy with my "random" url, thanks ;)


While some are waiting, others are having fun. From what loc-o reported so far, the performance gain is indeed interesting.

For me, it does not change anything ...
Still problems with my heater 4Way-Sli :shrug:

Riska
12-17-2009, 06:55 AM
http://www.myupload.dk/showfile/386144058ba.rar/

use this link for the win7 ones

Nedjo
12-17-2009, 07:11 AM
For me, it does not change anything ...
Still problems with my heater 4Way-Sli :shrug:
you mean 4-way CFX? ;) what problems are you experiencing?

screwtech02
12-17-2009, 08:34 AM
This driver works great with my 4850x2's....

CrimInalA
12-17-2009, 10:04 AM
http://www.myupload.dk/showfile/386144058ba.rar/

here is a link more to the vista/winf version


are these for win 7 64 bit ?

..::G80::..
12-17-2009, 11:16 AM
9.12 is out: http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx

FlawleZ
12-17-2009, 11:19 AM
These drivers are awesome :) I got over 2k more in Vantage with these while using the same clock speeds:

9.11 hot fix drivers, CPU @ 4.3Ghz, HD5870's @ 1100/5400, 8800GS at 750/1880/2000

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1679872

9.12 drivers, CPU @ 4.3Ghz, HD5870's @ 1100/5400, 8800GS @ 750/1880/2000

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1691926

And as for games I'm seeing on average anywhere from a 15 - 20 frames more per second in Dirt 2, Crysis, and Farcry 2. These drivers are definitely keepers :up:

Well I was gonna try the 9.8's for my 4850 tonight, but these have me wondering if they'll be an improvement for the HD4000 series too.

illidan
12-17-2009, 11:29 AM
9.12 official links

Windows 7 / Vista 64 bit (http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=win7/windows-7-64bit)
Windows 7 / Vista 32 bit (http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=win7/windows-7-32bit)
Windows XP 64 bit (http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp64/radeonx-xp64)
Windows XP 32 bit (http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/radeonx-xp)

zalbard
12-17-2009, 11:51 AM
9.12 official links

Windows 7 / Vista 64 bit (http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=win7/windows-7-64bit)
Windows 7 / Vista 32 bit (http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=win7/windows-7-32bit)
Windows XP 64 bit (http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp64/radeonx-xp64)
Windows XP 32 bit (http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/radeonx-xp)
Thanks :)

Nedjo
12-17-2009, 11:54 AM
and what's new blog:

http://blogs.amd.com/play/2009/12/17/ati-catalyst%E2%84%A2-9-12-driver-%E2%80%93-what%E2%80%99s-new/

;)

Pyr0
12-17-2009, 12:04 PM
cool, 9.12 hotfix due shortly :)

In addition, the ATI Catalyst 9.12 hotfix driver will be made available today!
Highlights of the ATI Catalyst 9.12 hotfix release includes:
Support for the OpenCL™ GPU component of the ATI Stream SDK v2.0

* The ATI Catalyst 9.12 hotfix release provides full support for GPU acceleration of OpenCL when used in conjunction with the ATI Stream SDK v2.0. This feature is supported on the ATI Radeon HD 5970 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series and the AMD FireStream™ 9200 Series of products.

For more information about ATI Stream technology and OpenCL, please visit. http://www.amd.com/stream
Support for ATI CrossFireX™ technology on configurations employing ATI Eyefinity technology configurations The ATI Catalyst 9.12 hotfix release provides support for ATI CrossFireX™ technology on configurations employing ATI Eyefinity technology, allowing users to take advantage of their additional GPUs for increased gaming performance when driving high resolution displays

* Supported on the ATI Radeon HD 5970 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, and ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series

Support for DisplayPort audio

* The ATI Catalyst 9.12 hotfix release adds support for DisplayPort audio for DisplayPort panels

Fixes the following issues:

* Resident Evil 5 – Performance drop during the opening cinematic
* Call of Duty Modern Warfare – Negative performance observed with a configuration supporting ATI CrossFireX™ technology when using the thermal scope
* Wheelman – Game freezes while loading the game menu
* Flashing in various OpenGL titles – City of Heroes, Enemy Territories: Quake Wars, and Chronicles of Riddick
* Heaven benchmark (DirectX 9 mode) – Grass flicker and white boarders observed around the edges

Grab the hotfix driver : Here (http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/ATICatalyst912Hotfix.aspx)
Till Next Month, HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
Jay Marsden

Manicdan
12-17-2009, 12:12 PM
Support for ATI CrossFireX™ technology on configurations employing ATI Eyefinity technology configurations The ATI Catalyst 9.12 hotfix release provides support for ATI CrossFireX™ technology on configurations employing ATI Eyefinity technology, allowing users to take advantage of their additional GPUs for increased gaming performance when driving high resolution displays


im surprised there isnt a party/some huge event to go along with this, seems pretty important to stress this news since people with lots of money will now want to buy lots of monitors and lots of video cards

zalbard
12-17-2009, 12:15 PM
cool, 9.12 hotfix due shortly :)
Meh, guess I have to install that, too, along with normal 9.12 drivers?
Can someone please upload it somewhere? CBA to register. Thanks! :up:

H2O
12-17-2009, 01:29 PM
Is anyone else experiencing a small red vertical line appearing in WMP?

zalbard
12-17-2009, 01:37 PM
The password block for the hotfix is removed, but it gives "File not found" now.

Pyr0
12-17-2009, 01:48 PM
Is anyone else experiencing a small red vertical line appearing in WMP?

have you been playing with the Avivo settings and enabled demo mode?

Monstru
12-17-2009, 02:02 PM
Finnaly!!! Thx illidan, now we all have a strong download link (5MB/s here :D )

netkas
12-17-2009, 02:32 PM
with 9.12 now directcompute demos from nvidia sdk works on atis :)

such as ocean and nbody(353 GFLOPS here)

but, they heats up my ref4850 a lot and very quick to 105C on memio.

kadozer
12-17-2009, 02:35 PM
These installed over my 9.11s in less than a minute and work great.

Eastcoasthandle
12-17-2009, 02:53 PM
No more stuttering in Dirt 2 when viewing cars from the rear that create a plume of dirt.

Solus Corvus
12-17-2009, 02:59 PM
Highlights of the ATI Catalyst 9.12 hotfix release includes:
Support for the OpenCL™ GPU component of the ATI Stream SDK v2.0

* The ATI Catalyst 9.12 hotfix release provides full support for GPU acceleration of OpenCL when used in conjunction with the ATI Stream SDK v2.0. This feature is supported on the ATI Radeon HD 5970 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series and the AMD FireStream™ 9200 Series of products.
So does it work properly? It's taking them far too long to get this functional.

Pyr0
12-17-2009, 03:26 PM
hotfix files are up
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/ATICatalyst912Hotfix.aspx

zalbard
12-17-2009, 03:27 PM
Was about to post.
On a side note, twice bigger than the driver with CCC, lol.

Pyr0
12-17-2009, 03:32 PM
because it's 32 and 64 bit in the same package this time

zalbard
12-17-2009, 03:35 PM
You don't need to install 9.12 prior to installing the hotfix, correct? Just making sure that it's a standalone driver.

Motiv
12-17-2009, 03:37 PM
You don't need to install 9.12 prior to installing the hotfix, correct? Just making sure that it's a standalone driver.

Seems to be a full catalyst install. Probably 9.12 + hotfix.

zalbard
12-17-2009, 03:39 PM
Alright, thanks. :) Thought so.

Musho
12-17-2009, 03:51 PM
Should I install the ones from the official driver page or the hotfix ones linked in this thread? On the hotfix page there's a date of 16/12, while on the driver page it says 17/12, so the ones on the driver page do look newer. I'm confused :s

Musho
12-17-2009, 03:58 PM
with 9.12 now directcompute demos from nvidia sdk works on atis :)

such as ocean and nbody(353 GFLOPS here)

but, they heats up my ref4850 a lot and very quick to 105C on memio.

Where did you find these demos? I'm very interested to test them out in realtime on my PC. Thanks! :up:

zalbard
12-17-2009, 04:01 PM
Install the hotfix imo, seems to be more recent.
Also, there is a funny new bug already in the CCC: the tray icon shows me 3x 5800 menu options, but all of them have the same sub-menus, just with different options greyed out, lol.

Edit: alright guys, the hotfix is 9.11... Install the official drivers and don't bother, lol.

Edit2: the hotfix seems to be more recent, just marked as 9.11 for me (due to my last installed Catalyst version being 9.11, see below).

Musho
12-17-2009, 04:08 PM
Install the hotfix imo, seems to be more recent.
Also, there is a funny new bug already in the CCC: the tray icon shows me 3x 5800 menu options, but all of them have the same sub-menus, just with different options greyed out, lol.

Edit: alright guys, the hotfix is 9.11... Install the official drivers and don't bother, lol.

Thanks for the info! Weird stuff going on. :confused: Does anyone happen to have a link the the nvidia demos mentioned earlier? Would love to test a couple of them out in real time. I've found a few on nvidia's site, but they're just the source code, so I'd have to install CUDA to compile the code. Aren't there any EXEs floating around of these demos?

zalbard
12-17-2009, 04:11 PM
This is what you get for clean install of the hotfix:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/zalbard/hotfix.jpg

Installing 9.12 now to compare...

Edit: here it is, 9.12:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/zalbard/912.jpg

Verdict: There seems to be some mistake in displaying the Catalyst version (edit: the hotfix contains no Catalyst version information, so it shows the last Catalyst version you had installed in the system). It is supposed to be 9.12 due to being a more recent release and being more feature rich.
The hofix contains more components and languages, if this matters for you. And a more recent OpenGL and CCC version.
So I guess the hotfix is the way to go. Reinstalling again, awesome! /sarcasm off.

Motiv
12-17-2009, 04:21 PM
This is what you get for clean install of the hotfix:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/zalbard/hotfix.jpg

Installing 9.12 now to compare...

I installed the hotfix over the 9.12s and still have them installed.

zalbard
12-17-2009, 04:26 PM
Updated, see the post above.

iTravis
12-17-2009, 04:30 PM
Updated, see the post above.

So you still need to install the hotfix after installing 9.12 to get more features?

safan80
12-17-2009, 04:35 PM
Edit: alright guys, the hotfix is 9.11... Install the official drivers and don't bother, lol.


Wrong the OpenGL part of the drivers is newer.

zalbard
12-17-2009, 04:36 PM
So you still need to install the hotfix after installing 9.12 to get more features?
Hotfix seems to have more features, more languages, AND more recent driver & CCC versions.
It is just marked as 9.11 for some reason, assuming it is a mistake.
So guess just installing the hotfix is a way to go.

Wrong the OpenGL part of the drivers is newer.
Yeah, yeah, read the post below the one you quoted...

safan80
12-17-2009, 04:41 PM
Hotfix seems to have more features, more languages, AND more recent driver version.
It is just marked as 9.11 for some reason, assuming it is a mistake.
So guess just installing the hotfix is a way to go.

Yeah, yeah, read the post below the one you quoted...

Well I just did a clean install of the hotfix drivers. I was using the 9.12s from two days ago went back to the 9.10 due to openGL issues. Today I install the hotfix. It shows 9.12 for me.

iTravis
12-17-2009, 04:43 PM
Okay just install the hotfix alone, gotcha. Will see how kickass this driver is.

zalbard
12-17-2009, 04:44 PM
Well, our screenshots seem identical, for the exception that the hotfix for me is shown as 9.11.
Odd...
Perhaps it's due to the reason that you had 9.12 installed prior to this, and I had 9.11 installed.

Pyr0
12-17-2009, 04:46 PM
yes, most likely the hotfix drivers have no actual catalyst version info included (just like the leaked betas that appear from time to time)

[edit] yes, just checked and the hotfix install inf has no HKR,, Catalyst_Version,,

if you were to install them on a completely fresh system, that line would just be missing from the information screen

safan80
12-17-2009, 04:47 PM
Well, our screenshots seem identical, for the exception that the hotfix for me is shown as 9.11.
Odd...
Perhaps it's due to the reason that you had 9.12 installed prior to this, and I had 9.11 installed.

I had the 9.10s installed the 9.12s were installed two days ago.

Yeah maybe. I maybe test the hotfix install on a different install and see what happens. I really could care less about what version is says though, I tend to go by the dates in the folder.

Musho
12-17-2009, 04:48 PM
Hotfix is showing 9.11 for me, too. I installed directly over the 9.11 I had running already. GPU-Z recognizes the driver as 9.11 too. Going to try official 9.12 now.

zalbard
12-17-2009, 04:50 PM
Hotfix is showing 9.11 for me, too. I installed directly over the 9.11 I had running already. GPU-Z recognizes the driver as 9.11 too. Going to try official 9.12 now.
Just do a clean install of the hotfix. :) It's just a display bug of the version, should go away now.

Pyr0
12-17-2009, 04:52 PM
no, the hotfix has no catalyst version info in the install, it just shows whatever was installed previously
as long as the other driver versions match up, it should be fine

Musho
12-17-2009, 04:53 PM
Doh, 9.12 install shows 9.11 too. Going to do a fresh install of the hotfix drivers as you suggested. Did you run driversweeper inbetween?

zalbard
12-17-2009, 04:57 PM
Pretty sure he gets it, this is what I meant anyway, just bad wording of mine. :up:

And I uninstalled everything via the control panel. Clicked on ATI Catalyst Install Manager, and just picked fast uninstall of all the components, worked like a charm! :D

Musho
12-17-2009, 05:07 PM
Using the fast install still kept loads of files on my PC. Even eyefinity was still working without the driver installed, and GPU-Z still showed 9.11, so I ran driver sweeper. Now I reinstalled the hotfix drivers, and I didn't even have to configure eyefinity again, so there's definitely something strange going on. CCC and GPU-Z show 9.11 again. *sigh* Going to uninstall with driversweeper again, and then install the official 9.12. Fingers crossed!

zalbard
12-17-2009, 05:10 PM
Well, what I did was...
I had 9.11 installed. Used quick uninstall.
Installed the hotfix. It was showing as 9.11. Display and 3D settings seemed to be preserved. Used quick uninstall.
Installed 9.12. It was showing as 9.12. Display and 3D settings seemed to be preserved. Used quick uninstall.
Installed the hotfix. It was showing as 9.12. Display and 3D settings seemed to be preserved. Running good. :up:

Musho
12-17-2009, 05:16 PM
Ah, you use 9.12 before using 9.12hotfix? That explains it. Thanks for the info. Finally got 9.12 up and running. Except for the OpenGL Version, it seems identical to the 9.12hotfix, so I'm going to keep these for a while. Thanks for the info!

Chickenfeed
12-17-2009, 05:22 PM
GPU scaling once again works in Win7 for me :up: These drivers look to be game changers all around (eyefinity and stream support ect ), good to see AMD are finally getting the lead out so to speak.

Motiv
12-17-2009, 05:28 PM
I've not used it all before but does this mean it's all working as expected?

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6157/clipboard01fc.jpg

zalbard
12-17-2009, 05:30 PM
I've not used it all before but does this mean it's all working as expected?
What did you install to get OpenCL to work?
Just a clean install of the hotfix? Or something else?
I think I need Stream SDK, do you have a link?

Motiv
12-17-2009, 05:32 PM
What did you install to get OpenCL to work?
Just a clean install of the hotfix? Or something else?


http://developer.amd.com/GPU/ATISTREAMSDKBETAPROGRAM/Pages/default.aspx

zalbard
12-17-2009, 05:35 PM
http://developer.amd.com/GPU/ATISTREAMSDKBETAPROGRAM/Pages/default.aspx
I found this, but I get

You must be logged in to download tools from AMD Developer Central
:confused:
Ah well, guess I have to register! :D

Edit: benched. i7 920 @ stock (Delta fans will arrive tomorrow, not OCing with no fans! :D), 5870 @ stock.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/zalbard/DirectCompute.jpg

Results seem to be very inconsistant, 10k more / less is nothing to be shocked about.
Very low DirectCompute score also, maybe CPU limited? :confused:

zanzabar
12-17-2009, 05:58 PM
were do u get that bench

Motiv
12-17-2009, 05:59 PM
were do u get that bench



Here's the new version of it

http://www.ngohq.com/attachments/graphic-cards/2412d1260311712-directcompute-and-opencl-benchmark-directcomputebenchmark_v0_43b.zip

safan80
12-17-2009, 06:06 PM
Here's the new version of it

http://www.ngohq.com/attachments/graphic-cards/2412d1260311712-directcompute-and-opencl-benchmark-directcomputebenchmark_v0_43b.zip

finally something to bench!

Motiv
12-17-2009, 06:09 PM
finally something to bench!

wow, nice!

my 4870 gives...

ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series @ 750 MHz (1002 / 9440 / 5021002)
AMD Phenom(tm) II X3 720 Processor (3 logical CPUs)

DirectCompute: D2359.1
OpenCL: C1874.4
CPU: M19.0

zalbard
12-17-2009, 06:13 PM
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/zalbard/DirectCompute43b.jpg

How come you get 894K OpenCL score? :confused:

Motiv
12-17-2009, 06:18 PM
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/zalbard/DirectCompute43b.jpg

How come you get 894K OpenCL score? :confused:

Must be an issue with the 5970 card and the software.

Strange your 5870 is 2x quicker on opencl, yet 3x quicker in directcompute. Would of thought the result would be more similar.

zalbard
12-17-2009, 06:20 PM
Strange your 5870 is 2x quicker on opencl, yet 3x quicker in directcompute. Would of thought the result would be more similar.
Perhaps because I use CS_5.0.

Edit: nope.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/zalbard/DirectCOmputeCS41.jpg

Gotta give props to the author regarding the improvements btw. v0.35 could easily give 10% higher / lower results from run to run, this one is solid, always the same results! :up:

zanzabar
12-17-2009, 06:38 PM
or just give props for a solid test to make sure that openCL is working properly. now to wait for gpugrid to get the memory and fft problems worked out with openCL and cs4 or just to run slow wus when its out later this or next month

Mechromancer
12-17-2009, 06:40 PM
This is with Cat 9.12 hotfix drivers.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r201/winglesshuman/DCOCLBench043.jpg

EDIT - Here is a suicide run with my CPU@3.6Ghz/2.2Ghz(core/NB) and GPU@790/1100(core/mem)

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r201/winglesshuman/DCOCLBench043_36Ghz_MaxGPU.jpg

Not much of a gain is it... :(

PS: I want to see Particle's CPU score with that Dual Istanbul setup of his :D

FireDragon
12-17-2009, 07:37 PM
Im downloading these right now the hot-fix version btw, ill report back

Dragon

iTravis
12-17-2009, 07:50 PM
Just downloaded and installed the hotfix. I was on 9.10, uninstall from control panel, then use Driver Sweeper to clean then install the hotfix. Guess what it shows: :ROTF::ROTF:
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4522/51111885.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/51111885.jpg/)


But I would care less since these benchmarks will speak for themselves:
3DMark Vantage with 9.10:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7691/3dmarkvantageperformanc.jpg (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/3dmarkvantageperformanc.jpg/)

3DMark Vantage with 9.12 hotfix:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7691/3dmarkvantageperformanc.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/3dmarkvantageperformanc.jpg/)

More than 1k in improvement. :D

DirectComputer and OpenCL benchmark:
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9351/directcomputeopencl.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/directcomputeopencl.jpg/)


I think the problem lies in the benchmark itself since I got failed checksum. Probably need a HD58xx series since my DC score is too low.

FireDragon
12-17-2009, 07:58 PM
Question do you only gain that much performance when in crossfire? or is there decent gains with single cards as well?
ill find out once my slow as death connection finishes the dl....

Dragon

rouvio
12-17-2009, 08:40 PM
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2237/bencha.png

AndrewZorn
12-17-2009, 08:50 PM
wish i read this extra stuff first, took me about 2hrs to download 9.12, now starting the hotfix...

FireDragon
12-17-2009, 08:55 PM
I saw zero performance increase with a 5770 at stock in 3d06

Dragon

edit, on a side not i seem to b able 2 push my core further for what ever reason i will keep you updated, b4 anything over 1000mhz would artifact im currently at 1010 w/o problems going 2 c how much higher i can go

edit 2, currently at 1020 w/o artifacts

iTravis
12-17-2009, 09:08 PM
I saw zero performance increase with a 5770 at stock in 3d06

Dragon

3DMark06 is more CPU intensive than GPU, if you wanna test your GPU performance then 3DMark Vantage is way to go.

Eastcoasthandle
12-17-2009, 09:44 PM
Flash Player 10.1 beta 2 was released on December 17, 2010 and is available for download.

link (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/)
Anyone try them with this driver yet?

rouvio
12-17-2009, 10:03 PM
What is it you guys talk about hotfix?

I downloaded and installed 9.12 from AMD : http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?driver=VideoCard/win7-64-suite

Do I need to install anything further?

safan80
12-17-2009, 10:47 PM
What is it you guys talk about hotfix?

I downloaded and installed 9.12 from AMD : http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?driver=VideoCard/win7-64-suite

Do I need to install anything further?

If you would of read the thread you'd find the link to the hotfix drivers.
Here is is for you.

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/ATICatalyst912Hotfix.aspx

rouvio
12-17-2009, 11:17 PM
I did read the thread sir,

What I do not understand is this:
The 9.12 officially listed at Ati/AMD site are listed as 12/17/09,
While the hotfix is listed on 12/16/09

Are the new drivers (official 9.12) also include this hotfix?
If not - do I install over the current 9.12 (12/17/09)? or do I make a fresh install ?

Thanks

CraptacularOne
12-17-2009, 11:36 PM
I just did a fresh install of the hotfix drivers. I don't see any difference in performance between this and the official driver ...then again I'm really only a gamer so open CL doesn't matter to me much at this point :shrug:

Shadov
12-17-2009, 11:40 PM
I did read the thread sir,

What I do not understand is this:
The 9.12 officially listed at Ati/AMD site are listed as 12/17/09,
While the hotfix is listed on 12/16/09

Are the new drivers (official 9.12) also include this hotfix?
If not - do I install over the current 9.12 (12/17/09)? or do I make a fresh install ?

Thanks

9,12 is a WHQL one (Microsoft Certified)
9,12 Hotfix is a package not yet certified

Honestly you can go with either one and it entirely depends if you need the fixes included in the release now?

Daveburt714
12-17-2009, 11:45 PM
Hey Folks,

I've been working on this for a few hours and read the thread a number of times, for some reason I still can't get DirectCompute to work... :(

Everything else seems fine, OpenCL is working (I can watch the GPU temp rise while benching).

Am I missing something or does DC just not work with a 4870?

I hate to sound ignorant, but I'm getting a little frustrated...

Thanks.. Dave

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Daveburt/1218_OCL_DCBench.png

safan80
12-18-2009, 12:04 AM
I did read the thread sir,

What I do not understand is this:
The 9.12 officially listed at Ati/AMD site are listed as 12/17/09,
While the hotfix is listed on 12/16/09

Are the new drivers (official 9.12) also include this hotfix?
If not - do I install over the current 9.12 (12/17/09)? or do I make a fresh install ?

Thanks

You should always fresh install new drivers. The hot fix drivers have fixes in them that the 9.12s do not have. I don't know why they are called hot fix drivers, but imagine it is because they fixed problems they found already.

if you want to have the latest drivers installed I suggest you install the hot fix drivers, if you have no need for their fixes nor want to use opencl than keep the release 9.12s installed.


9,12 is a WHQL one (Microsoft Certified)
9,12 Hotfix is a package not yet certified

Honestly you can go with either one and it entirely depends if you need the fixes included in the release now?

I find whql to be a joke 9/10 beta drivers tend to run better than whql drivers for me. There are some that care anbout whql though :shakes:

blindbox
12-18-2009, 01:10 AM
This is what you get for clean install of the hotfix:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/zalbard/hotfix.jpg

Installing 9.12 now to compare...

Edit: here it is, 9.12:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn79/zalbard/912.jpg

Verdict: There seems to be some mistake in displaying the Catalyst version (edit: the hotfix contains no Catalyst version information, so it shows the last Catalyst version you had installed in the system). It is supposed to be 9.12 due to being a more recent release and being more feature rich.
The hofix contains more components and languages, if this matters for you. And a more recent OpenGL and CCC version.
So I guess the hotfix is the way to go. Reinstalling again, awesome! /sarcasm off.

I applied 9.12 hotfix on top of 9.12. Shows 9.12 here. 9.12hotfix says its graphics driver is newer than the ones from 9.12.


finally something to bench!

Your left picture (v0.35) shows >2.1 billion (integer's max limit) score iinm, that's why you're getting negatives. Strange though, rofl.

DC for Radeon HD4xxx requires Catalyst 9.12. Radeon HD4k owners, you can go and try that Mandelbrot DirectCompute demo now :) . It was a 2x leap from pixel shaders. I wonder how do I see my GFLOPS though.

Here's my score! Completely unoptimised, surfing the web while it runs. To be honest, I think this benchmark sucks. It tells nothing whatsoever. Can't it tell the FLOPS at least? I'm ashamed of my CPU score though :p: .

safan80
12-18-2009, 01:45 AM
you guys should check out the dx11 programs on this page

http://users.skynet.be/fquake/

the DX11 DirectCompute Julia 4D is very cool. It can do full screen so it would make a nice screen saver.

SimBy
12-18-2009, 01:57 AM
you guys should check out the dx11 programs on this page

http://users.skynet.be/fquake/

the DX11 DirectCompute Julia 4D is very cool. It can do full screen so it would make a nice screen saver.

DX11 DirectCompute Mandelbrot and Julia viewer

On the HD 5870 computational throughput is over 1.9 TFLOP/s. :bows:

netkas
12-18-2009, 04:40 AM
Where did you find these demos? I'm very interested to test them out in realtime on my PC. Thanks! :up:

I dont really remember, maybe here - http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html

CUDA SDK: CUDA SDK 2.3 code samples for Windows 7 (64-bit)

Darknight
12-18-2009, 05:25 AM
hello

Well I was doing some quick tests
install all clean

1680x1050 resolution, and settings Ultra 8xAA, the Bench of the Dirt 2

9:11 _ all max - 58Fps
9:12 Final - all max - 55FPS
9:12 Hotfix - all max - 56Fps

do not know why

anyone else had worse results?

Sorry my English

H2O
12-18-2009, 06:50 AM
have you been playing with the Avivo settings and enabled demo mode?

No, Avivo is turned off. But it seems like it is in demo mode or something.

netkas
12-18-2009, 07:23 AM
to get opencl need to install ati-stream-sdk-v2.0-beta4-win7-XX-dev.msi

and cuz I had this pkg installed some time ago, I had opencl with whql 9.12

So I dont really see the point of this hotfix.

Eastcoasthandle
12-18-2009, 09:04 AM
hello

Well I was doing some quick tests
install all clean

1680x1050 resolution, and settings Ultra 8xAA, the Bench of the Dirt 2

9:11 _ all max - 58Fps
9:12 Final - all max - 55FPS
9:12 Hotfix - all max - 56Fps

do not know why

anyone else had worse results?

Sorry my English
Yeah, I didn't really notice a frame rate increase per say. Except for me the minimums were a tad bit higher then before, not the max fps. This is why I noticed no stuttering when in replay mode with the view behind the car. It use to stutter with Cat 9.11 when there were plumes of dust/dirt being kicked up by the cars. With Cat 9.12 that no longer happens.

So to sum it all up, Cat 9.12 has increase min FPS in Dirt 2 not the max FPS for me.

Darknight
12-18-2009, 09:37 AM
Yeah, I didn't really notice a frame rate increase per say. Except for me the minimums were a tad bit higher then before, not the max fps. This is why I noticed no stuttering when in replay mode with the view behind the car. It use to stutter with Cat 9.11 when there were plumes of dust/dirt being kicked up by the cars. With Cat 9.12 that no longer happens.

So to sum it all up, Cat 9.12 has increase min FPS in Dirt 2 not the max FPS for me.

Yap.
really noticed the difference in vision


however the minimum, are equal. there was no rise.
had less 1fps: D

Thanks

Eastcoasthandle
12-18-2009, 09:53 AM
Yap.
really noticed the difference in vision


however the minimum, are equal. there was no rise.
had less 1fps: D

Thanks
Odd, I noticed more then one. Are you using the same track?