Venomous-X is prepared for 6-core CPU's with new "pressure vault bracket"

[[NH]Woxxman]

We just got the gods on Thermalrights Ultra 120 successor Venomous-X. Like we told earlier this week its totally redesigned since Computex and even though its still a tower cooler and doesn't look like a space ship it has some interesting stuff going on.

A new retention system that puts 40 ~ 70 lbs of pressure on the CPU and a new convex mirror finished base. We've gotten a few interesting pictures and also detailed information on our Swedish site so far, English version coming later today.

- Swedish news item with more pictures (http://www.nordichardware.se/nyhet,16991.html)

http://www.nordichardware.se/image3.php?id=10437

http://www.nordichardware.se/image3.php?id=10441

[iTravis]

Repost:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240591

[v0dka]

I didn't read anything about the pressure bracket in the old thread though.

It seems weird to me that this is the right way of increasing performance, instead of adding surface area or heatpipes.

[[NH]Woxxman]

Well that first one was just TR's teaser that everyone new about. This is the official details about the cooler and I thought it deserved its own post. But someone please move, or remove it if they feel necessary.

Edit: To clarify, this is unique details that, at this moment, has not been posted by anyone, anywhere else. :P

[MpG]

Is 40-70lbs really that noteworthy? If their sink needs the pressure fine, but lots of cooling block/sinks don't show any improvement with more pressure. And I thought Intel's socket rating was for a maximum of 75lbs?

And for the coin they show in the photo, I like how it comes complete with a punch-out center section. Why couldn't they have included that with the TRUE, which needs it? :D

[[XC] Oj101]

That's more pressure than high school finals :D

[Winchip]

The complete product sheet here: Thermalright Readies Venomous X CPU Cooler (http://vr-zone.com/articles/thermalright-readies-venomous-x-cpu-cooler/8148.html?doc=8148).

Pasted from source: Availability during Christmas for US$59.95.

[naokaji]

So they took a true, fixed the mounting and renamed it? did I miss the news where Thermalright was acquired by you know who?

[trueg50]

Great to hear.

Washer/penny mods and lapping have been a very popular way to increase TRUE performance for a long while now.

[RPGWiZaRD]

Yea it's basicly a TRUE that's lapped with better mounting and very minor shape modifications. Doing the mods to the original TRUE you could gain several degrees lower temp, which is a hard thing to achieve by simply redesigning the heatsink itself. This is a lot easier way to increase performance. :p:

However I don't like the price premium, if it's true that it will be roughly same as a TRUE Black. As usual TR continues to charge as high as possible and depend on their reputation to be able to do so.

[Leeghoofd]

So they took a true, fixed the mounting and renamed it? did I miss the news where Thermalright was acquired by you know who ?

there are more subtle changes mate... look closer

[jcool]

32nm Hexas actually run a lot cooler than 45nm Bloomfields. ;)
So, nice to see a new air cooler, but the old ones will be just fine, thank you very much :D

[halfwaythere]

If you listen closely I'm pretty sure you can hear the TR marketing crew giggling when you reach for your wallet. I appreciate the new mounting hardware but that is little reason to call this venomous and expect miracles.

[v0dka]

If you listen closely I'm pretty sure you can hear the TR marketing crew giggling when you reach for your wallet. I appreciate the new mounting hardware but that is little reason to call this venomous and expect miracles.

That avatar is the :banana::banana::banana::banana:

[Manicdan]

no AMD bracket heh, not sure im too happy about that

[Glow9]

no AMD bracket heh, not sure im too happy about that

There's an easy fix, just buy another brands that will cost $50 less and give you 5 degrees difference.

[=SOC= Admiral]

Well getting time to do some heatsink upgrades. I need to get a new Push fan for this and my TRUE120. Darn those Noctoa are expensive. $20 for a fan.

[Computurd]

i wonder if they are going to make that mounting adapter available to the public as they do the 1366 brackets. the copper true has a punch out in the center of the HS bottom plate that would allow for instant venomous for my copper true! also though w0onder if some people might go ape :banana::banana::banana::banana: with that amount and break their socket? needs disclaimer!!

[Movieman]

I have a pair of the first generation TRUE's on my dual 6 core and they work just fine. 39-41C at full load with 120x25mm 53cfm fans.
I do like the new mounts though. nice fix.:up:

[ColonelCain]

I have a pair of the first generation TRUE's on my dual 6 core and they work just fine. 39-41C at full load with 120x25mm 53cfm fans.
I do like the new mounts though. nice fix.:up:

Don't tell me that you already have i9...

[Movieman]

Don't tell me that you already have i9...

ok, so I won't tell ya..:wasntme:

This image will self destruct in 15 seconds...14...13...12...11...10..
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[Tommy_Hewitt]

Yea it's basicly a TRUE that's lapped with better mounting and very minor shape modifications.

Unfortunately it's not, just the same stupid convex base with a mirror finish :down:

Thermalright says this in the product sheet:


The base of the Venomous-X is also slightly convex. This design has been proven to design.....blablabla

FAIL! :(

However, I like the new mounting-system :up:

[Zaskar]

If you listen closely I'm pretty sure you can hear the TR marketing crew giggling when you reach for your wallet. I appreciate the new mounting hardware but that is little reason to call this venomous and expect miracles.

Well considering that the True and Megahalems were the top coolers with the same performance, when given the choice you would go with the one that had the better mounting system and that was the Megahalems.

Its a smart move to have fixed the main problem with their old cooler, its horrible mounting.

[jcool]

Don't tell me that you already have i9...

No, only since september or so :rofl:

[Helloworld_98]

Don't tell me that you already have i9...

he doesn't, he has an i7 :P

[initialised]

I have a pair of the first generation TRUE's on my dual 6 core and they work just fine. 39-41C at full load with 120x25mm 53cfm fans.
I do like the new mounts though. nice fix.:up:What clocks are you using, I'm getting ~70C with a CM H212 @ 4GHz and ~60C on water:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2727/4177503056_90d6435be7_o.jpg

I tried it on a 920 stock cooler first and it was bouncing off 100C at stock setting!

Is there really any need for a new bunch of coolers ready for this CPU? In my experience it runs cooler clock for clock than i7 despite having two extra CPUs. It gets the VRMs hot though, I can see it frying cheap motherboards and making a good case for watercooled x58s.

[jcool]

The mobo's northbridge also gets hotter when running a hexa, did you notice that? ;)
Nice Q3QP!

[Movieman]

he doesn't, he has an i7 :P

i7,i9 who cares..
It's 2x6 cores with HT for 24 threads, runs cool and huge computational power..
Even at a piddly 2660mhz it's almost matching 32 core opty systems..
I mean within 5-7% daily in the Dc work I do..
Wait till the 3330's get here and thats VERY soon!:rofl:

[jcool]

Hey, stop spoiling the surprise :ROTF:

[Movieman]

Hey, stop spoiling the surprise :ROTF:

Not really, thats just the "little" surprise..
The "big" one might actually get unveiled at CES..
Can you guys imagine a ..nah, you wouldn't beleive me even if I told you..:p:
Wait? Did I say that?:eek:

Want to see power? Look at #5 listed here using the 'Credit/Week" tab..
Me surrounded by all those crazed 24 and 32 core Opty systems!:rofl:
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_stats.php?pr=wcg&userid=0&active=&st=0&or=10

[TheKarmakazi]

Don't tell me that you already have i9...

Whoops - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=849093 :D

http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/TEMP/1.JPG

[jcool]

Not really, thats just the "little" surprise..
The "big" one might actually get unveiled at CES..
Can you guys imagine a ..nah, you wouldn't beleive me even if I told you..:p:
Wait? Did I say that?:eek:

Right.. forgot about that one :rofl:

Nice Jamie, now show us some real numbers will ya :up:

[BababooeyHTJ]

Woxxman;4147961']

A new retention system that puts 40 ~ 70 lbs of pressure on the CPU and a new convex mirror finished base.

So it still needs lapping. Thats a shock. ;)

[initialised]

Not really, thats just the "little" surprise..
The "big" one might actually get unveiled at CES..
Can you guys imagine a ..nah, you wouldn't beleive me even if I told you..:p:
Wait? Did I say that?:eek:

Want to see power? Look at #5 listed here using the 'Credit/Week" tab..
Me surrounded by all those crazed 24 and 32 core Opty systems!:rofl:
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_stats.php?pr=wcg&userid=0&active=&st=0&or=10Nah, all that's getting unveiled at CES is the i3/i5 range. Competent dual cores, 18K 3DM06 vs 20k for i9 @ 4GHz ish. even with 16GB DDR3 it can't keep up with 24GB on i9!

[initialised]

Whoops - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=849093 :D

http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/TEMP/1.JPGWill you people at least try and overclock those ES i9s!

If you;re gonna do it do it right!

[initialised]

The mobo's northbridge also gets hotter when running a hexa, did you notice that? ;)
Nice Q3QP!No, didn't notice that but there was a funny smell coming off the VRMs until I put some fans on them.

[Movieman]

Nah, all that's getting unveiled at CES is the i3/i5 range. Competent dual cores, 18K 3DM06 vs 20k for i9 @ 4GHz ish. even with 16GB DDR3 it can't keep up with 24GB on i9!

Who said I was talking about Intel or even cpu's? :wasntme:

[nullface]

Who said I was talking about Intel or even cpu's? :wasntme:

Now i start to hate you :D;)

[Movieman]

Now i start to hate you :D;)

Thats Ok, YOU wouldn't be the first one to say that..
I think I heard it from a couple x wives!:rofl:
Seriously, there are things you can say and things you can't.
Besides, if this item isn't ready for CES and I said it would be then you'd really be pissed at me.
This way you can be surprised if it is and not upset if it isn't.;)

[Kuroimaho]

(Movie)Man you made me curious. It should be something still in testing if nothing leaked onto the net. ;)

[Movieman]

(Movie)Man you made me curious. It should be something still in testing if nothing leaked onto the net. ;)

:yepp:

[Smartidiot89]

So you install the bracket, put the motherboard in your case then install the HS or how exactly do this new mount work?

[Kuroimaho]

Seems to me it's the same as TR coolers until now with the twist you can apply additional pressure by tightening the screw on the metal sheet which holds the cpu in place.

[onethreehill]

Thermalright’s Venomous X CPU Cooler Unwrapped!
http://en.expreview.com/2009/12/26/thermalrights-venomous-x-cpu-cooler-unwrapped/6249.html

[Katanai]

Thermalright’s Venomous X CPU Cooler Unwrapped!
http://en.expreview.com/2009/12/26/thermalrights-venomous-x-cpu-cooler-unwrapped/6249.html

It looks good that's for sure. Too bad I plan on going for water, if this beast performs well I probably would have bought it.

[Etihtsarom]

LoL It looks Effing the same. A new Mounting mechanism? All these years of sitting on top and this is it? Come on now. Please tell me I missed something, or is this The way it's meant to be renamed....

[IvanAndreevich]

They are in stock at NCIX (and on sale) and I've yet to see a review. Weird! I guess TR didn't send out the press samples in advance.

[s0lid]

Thats Ok, YOU wouldn't be the first one to say that..
I think I heard it from a couple x wives!:rofl:
Seriously, there are things you can say and things you can't.
Besides, if this item isn't ready for CES and I said it would be then you'd really be pissed at me.
This way you can be surprised if it is and not upset if it isn't.;)

Ooh boy i can hardly wait :D

[miahallen]

Now available:
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thvexcpuco.html
http://www.crazypc.com/products/venomous-x-509765.html
http://www.jab-tech.com/Thermalright-Venomous-X-Cpu-Heatsink-pr-4619.html
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=46_450_504&products_id=26988

[RPGWiZaRD]

Well at $65 it's not too bad but it'll have to do very well compared to Noctua NH-D14 to be worth it IMO, preferable 1~2C better with one medium speed, 1600~2000rpm fan for it to be worth it but I don't think that'll be the case.

[junkmonk]

That's more pressure than high school finals :D

that's not very much pressure.

[BatteryOperated]

If you listen closely I'm pretty sure you can hear the TR marketing crew giggling when you reach for your wallet. I appreciate the new mounting hardware but that is little reason to call this venomous and expect miracles.

:rofl: Great mental image.

[Computurd]

wonder if you can buy just the mounting mechanism??

[haylui]

Don't tell me that you already have i9...

it is a xeon???

[NickF]

Anyone try this for AMD yet?

[onethreehill]

Thermalright Venomous X: A Premium Choice for LGA1366 Platform
http://en.expreview.com/2010/01/06/thermalright-venomous-x-a-premium-choice-for-lga1366-platform/6323.html

[zalbard]

Thermalright Venomous X: A Premium Choice for LGA1366 Platform
http://en.expreview.com/2010/01/06/thermalright-venomous-x-a-premium-choice-for-lga1366-platform/6323.html
Hm, doesn't work for me.

[LuckyNV]

Same, Error 404, the website works though, just the article is missing.

[Elloquin]

Just click on the logo to the upper left and then in the search box over to the upper right type in venomous-x and it should take you there :) Although any testing they did appears to be missing atm

[jmke]

some were able to read it and summarized:


So on the LGA1366 platform that actually needs this much heat sink it wins, but on the much cooler and extinct LGA775 platform the megahalem wins....

[Katanai]

So on the LGA1366 platform that actually needs this much heat sink it wins, but on the much cooler and extinct LGA775 platform the megahalem wins....

Now, that doesn't sound bad, now does it?

[jmke]

as always, if the difference is less than 5°C; it doesn't matter, as end user tests can easily be off by 3°C;)
but yah, raw mass of the Venom should prove worthy for hotty CPUs

[onethreehill]

EXPreview Thermalright Venomous X review is back
http://en.expreview.com/2010/01/06/thermalright-venomous-x-a-premium-choice-for-lga1366-platform/6323.html