Best 30" Display for Gaming? [Archive]

Blacky

11-22-2009, 04:24 PM

Carfax

11-25-2009, 10:03 PM

I'm about to finish my build and was thinking going 2560x1600, so I'm looking which Display is superb for gaming, but I can't decide which!

I had in mind these:

Dell UltraSharp 3007WFP-HC (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=222-7175)

DoubleSight DS-305W (http://www.provantage.com/doublesight-ds-305w~7DBLE00M.htm)

Samsung SyncMaster 305T (http://www.provantage.com/samsung-305t~7SAMD072.htm)

LG W3000H (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005115)

All these looks good to me, the LG has S-IPS panel and DoubleSight has H-IPS is there any difference between these panels? Samsung has S-PVA if I remember and not idea which panel the dell has, I think all except samsung's doesn't have scaler...the decision is hard for me any advice, recommendations or comments between these? I will be grateful if you guys give me a little help here!

Well I can't speak for the other monitors, but I have a Samsung 305T Plus and it's the best monitor I've ever used!

It has an S-PVA panel, which means deeper blacks and higher contrast ratios than the IPS panels, at the expense of a more gamma shift and higher latency.

From my experience though, I will say that the Samsung 305T Plus has no input lag that I've ever noticed, but it does have gamma shift when viewed from off center; although this isn't a problem if you use the monitor for games and surfing the web like I do.

If you do get the Samsung 305T though, make sure it's the PLUS version. The plus version has a higher color gamut than the regular version and it's also HDCP compatible.

JoeBar

11-27-2009, 01:47 AM

From my experience with LG W2600HP with S-IPS panel and wider color gamut, i would say the LG W3000 should definitely be on your shortlist...

Silverion77

11-27-2009, 12:10 PM

I've used both the LG and Samsung and they are great monitors. Cant really go wrong with either.
The Dell fwir is also good. If i am not mistaken, it uses the same panel from LG (OEM)

Never really dealt with doublesight before

Bolas

12-23-2009, 03:19 PM

Dell 3007WFP-HC has very low input lag, is one of the top rated monitors on anandtech.com, and can be bought at Sam's Club for $999. It's my planned 30" gaming monitor. Sure would be sweet to have three of them.

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=373459&pid=_Froogle&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=792779

Newegg has crappy warranties for monitors. Sam's club has great warranties for monitors. That's what persuaded me between the LG and the Dell. I didn't like the input lag on the Samsung. I didn't see good reviews on the DoubleSight stuff, so I didn't really look at it much.

Jon K

12-28-2009, 06:46 AM

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/3screens.jpg

LG W3000H gets my vote - beautiful display and FAST

Xcel

12-28-2009, 08:40 AM

The LG still isn't as fast as the good old 3007WFP-HC, 22ms vs. 11.5ms on average, according to digitalversus. http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=35&mo1=527&p1=5499&ma2=88&mo2=237&p2=2302&ph=1.

Still I'm a bit sceptical of the test, could someone with the LG compare it to a crt.

JoeBar

12-30-2009, 02:20 PM

I have a W2600HP and i can say that ghosting isn't a factor. Among Dell and NEC 26-27 panels, LG is the best for gaming.

Pyr0

12-30-2009, 03:56 PM

can't speak for the other models, but I'm happy with my 3007WFP-HC
only downside is a lack of inputs. but since I'm only using it with my PC, it's not a problem

AndrewZorn

12-30-2009, 06:08 PM

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/3screens.jpg

LG W3000H gets my vote - beautiful display and FAST
i like how you mounted the side screens.
and you have the same cheapo-yet-great mousepad as me, too.

ive been trying to decide on my next display (IPS this time, for sure) for a while... bought a TN 24" because i was in a pinch to use my PS3, which would not work on my lovely Dell 2405wfp thanks to the HDCP scam.
the LG has always looked nice.
but lately i am considering 27" at the same res, just because now i think i should go TV + monitor instead, and there is not as much a need for something THAT big if i wont be playing games on it much.

one thing i noticed during my searching,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD#In-plane_switching_.28IPS.29
S-IPS is the oldest technology. why does the LG advertise this?
EDIT ok so there must be a lot of disinformation on this. some say that page is very inaccurate. some say the e in eIPS is for economy, not enhanced. oh man.

at the same time, i am also distracted by 120hz monitors and LED backlit monitors (even if just for lifetime/reliability)

Levish

01-13-2010, 10:39 AM

at the same time, i am also distracted by 120hz monitors and LED backlit monitors (even if just for lifetime/reliability)

To my knowledge there aren't any monitors that combine 120hz (true) and LED array :(

AndrewZorn

01-13-2010, 02:47 PM

while it may be true, i dont see the technological conflict between backlighting and [signal] refresh rate.

Bolas

01-13-2010, 03:37 PM

I'm so upset. My wife didn't listen to me when I told her what I wanted for Christmas. I had planned on her buying me a Dell 3007WFP-HC from Sam's Club for $999. She didn't. And now they no longer carry that monitor. Next best looks like $1400 for the same monitor from Dell. Bleah, 40% increase in price. So lame.

viccan

01-13-2010, 04:06 PM

Tell ya what I've been doing nothing but researching the 30" monitor choices for the last week...
I bought the gateway xhd3000, which when I first got it was one of the best displays I had ever owned, until the screen started flickering w/in a week of my warranty expiring :(
Basically got told SOL from gatewaY ( f-ing bastards)
No one can seem to fix it as gateway will not offer parts to use in repair and have discontinued this item.. (f-ing bastards)
So I decided to just buy a used 30" and get an extended warrenty for it this time around (2 year from square trade)

my choices went like this
1.> Apple
2.> LG
3.> Dell
4.> Samsung
5.> HP

Ended up w/ the Dell 3007WFP as I couldn't beat the price $499... I haven't received it yet but will give ya the update as soon as i do .... The Gateway (and I am on it now) when working is extremely crisp and vibrant with color, but it will work for an hour or 2 then start flickering.
Moral of the stroy stay the f away from Gateway as their product support is the worst Ive ever encountered but then again gateway wasn't on your list.. If ya got the coin and your going new LG is the way to go imo..... if $ is a limiting factor you can find a ton of quality used Dells for a reasonable price... Whichever way you go however get the Extended warrenty I learned the hard way (and I never buy the X.Warranty) and boy does it hurt :(

Good Luck

AndrewZorn

01-13-2010, 04:28 PM

$500 is a good deal... ebay or what?

i just found out about and am probably going to hold out for the new dell "pro" model: 27" 2560x1440, probably the same panel as the apple, but it comes all pre-calibrated and stuff. supposed to be around $1000. whether it is worth paying more for x1600 res, whether or not i want a larger 30" screen i am not sure.

one reason why i might want the larger screen (even if the resolutions were the same) is so i could feel rational in pushing it all the way to the back of the desk, or wall mount it, and it still be "as big as" a 27" pulled a little closer. i feel like unless i have the monitor stand almost hitting the keyboard, i am wasting money on size...

i guess ill have to wait for reviews of the new dells' quality before i make the choice. if it becomes hands-down the best display, then i will probably give up the extra pixels and size.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/dell-goes-pro-with-27-inch-ultrasharp-u2711-wqhd-lcd-monitor-ha/
stupid name though. "quad HD"? quad 720p... and as if monitors have not been higher than HD for some time, including the 3007 from years back that still has a higher res than it.

EDIT wow review already
http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/dell-ultrasharp-u2711/4505-3174_7-33913833.html
but cnet...

viccan

01-13-2010, 04:35 PM

$500 is a good deal... ebay or what?

i just found out about and am probably going to hold out for the new dell "pro" model: 27" 2560x1440, probably the same panel as the apple, but it comes all pre-calibrated and stuff. supposed to be around $1000. whether it is worth paying more for x1600 res, whether or not i want a larger 30" screen i am not sure.

one reason why i might want the larger screen (even if the resolutions were the same) is so i could feel rational in pushing it all the way to the back of the desk, or wall mount it, and it still be "as big as" a 27" pulled a little closer. i feel like unless i have the monitor stand almost hitting the keyboard, i am wasting money on size...

i guess ill have to wait for reviews of the new dells' quality before i make the choice. if it becomes hands-down the best display, then i will probably give up the extra pixels and size.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/dell-goes-pro-with-27-inch-ultrasharp-u2711-wqhd-lcd-monitor-ha/
stupid name though. "quad HD"? quad 720p... and as if monitors have not been higher than HD for some time, including the 3007 from years back that still has a higher res than it.

Yeah ebay.. was bidding on an LG but hit over $750 and still reserve wasnt meet so I switched to the 3007wfp, I am siked to get it..

That new dell 27 looks bad ass much like the input options on my gateway 30"
that was oine of the main reasons I went gway in the first place not that I needed them but to have the option just seemed like a smart choice (boy was I dumb!!)

AndrewZorn

01-13-2010, 05:07 PM

dont feel too bad about it, gateway should feel bad.

i never get the inputs when i need them. now that ill finally be getting a dedicated TV instead of using my computer monitor, i finally get all the inputs that i want? the last time i had one with all the inputs, i also had a dedicated TV!

inputs can also make the input lag bad. nothing in reviews yet, but i hope it isnt as bad as people said the last one was.

anzial

01-13-2010, 05:23 PM

AndrewZorn

01-13-2010, 05:27 PM

wow, that is half what it is at newegg (not that the price there is anywhere near competitive).

still just seems kind of 'old' to pay that much for.

Blacky

01-14-2010, 03:22 PM

wow, that is half what it is at newegg (not that the price there is anywhere near competitive).

still just seems kind of 'old' to pay that much for.

I agree, and now more with the amount of 120hz 1080p coming out! three 24" 120hz 3D surround vision > 30'' display, though with the new (rev1.2) display port specs, 2560x1600 @120hz could be possible if I remember!

AndrewZorn

01-14-2010, 03:57 PM

if i can only imagine it now, i doubt anyone is going to "do it right" for the next few years. im probably just going to go with the U2711.

anzial

01-14-2010, 04:03 PM

I agree, and now more with the amount of 120hz 1080p coming out! three 24" 120hz 3D surround vision > 30'' display, though with the new (rev1.2) display port specs, 2560x1600 @120hz could be possible if I remember!

Personally, I'd take an 'old' 30" over any 1080p Monitor for one simple reason: TN panel they are all based on (not to mention stupid 16x9 ratio). I don't think there's any IPS or even PVA 120hz panels. I think I'll sit on my NEC 3090 for a while until 3d LCDs mature enough to match its color quality and technologies (here's where you are wrong, AndrewZorn, 3090 is very advanced - while it doesn't have LED backlight or 120hz panel, it has many other capabilities unmatched by 90% of LCD monitors on the market)

AndrewZorn

01-14-2010, 08:27 PM

viccan

01-15-2010, 08:34 AM

anyone know where to get replacement screens for the dell Im waiting on?? Prolly the same cost as the monitor itself but heck worth looking in to

anzial

01-15-2010, 09:23 AM

(and what about all the other IPS panels, that aren't inside the "90% of LCD monitors on the market" that you talk about? ive been saying i want one of the newer IPS panels... is there something NEC did 2 years ago that no one else can match? furthermore i didnt say the NEC was crap, i said it looked like a lot of money for an older model)
It DOES have the newer H-IPS panel. And when you think about the money, just compare to other 30" monitors, most of which contain older S-IPS. There's also e-IPS which is not better, it's just cheaper (in fact, it's cheaper because the manufacturers skip some steps in making it, and therefore decreasing quality a little bit). I'm not getting into other IPS types which are also older and less advanced that H-IPS (granted, the differences are minimal)

kylepaddock

01-15-2010, 09:39 AM

My co-worker has 3 of these in a 180 view, they are sooo crisp. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005115

Kenjiwing

01-15-2010, 10:19 AM

Dell 3007wfp-hc

AndrewZorn

01-15-2010, 10:24 AM

It DOES have the newer H-IPS panel. And when you think about the money, just compare to other 30" monitors, most of which contain older S-IPS. There's also e-IPS which is not better, it's just cheaper (in fact, it's cheaper because the manufacturers skip some steps in making it, and therefore decreasing quality a little bit). I'm not getting into other IPS types which are also older and less advanced that H-IPS (granted, the differences are minimal)
read your post then my post again. i am not saying that your monitor is not IPS. i am saying that your statement of

it has many other capabilities unmatched by 90% of LCD monitors on the market)
does not consider the fact that i am IGNORING all the non-IPS panels on the market right now... which pretty much accounts for that 90% by itself, if not more.

JoeBar

01-15-2010, 12:43 PM

does not consider the fact that i am IGNORING all the non-IPS panels on the market right now... which pretty much accounts for that 90% by itself, if not more.

Surely more than 90%. Here it's near impossible to find a non TN panel nowdays... :down:

Bolas

01-17-2010, 12:20 PM

I am liking the price on that refurbished NEC monitor. Pity that they're out of stock. :(

viccan

01-21-2010, 04:20 AM

This new dell is beautifully... Not as many options as the gateway (mainly the color adjustment and scaling ability.. but the screen is very crisp especially considering the scratch which is barley noticeable when running and invisible it seems when gaming... glad I rolled the dice on this one :) and from what Im reading elsewhere I should be able to swap the lcd display from this with the gateways screen... Havent got the nerve up to do it yet but the chance is there... Time will tell weather I roll the dice again (Id be pretty6 lucky not to screw something up:( ...)

Ill keep ya posted..'

Bolas

01-28-2010, 08:25 AM

I wonder if anyone would consider a NEC 3090WQXi... IMHO, nice monitor all around, even for some casual gaming. NEC is currently selling refurbs for $1000 http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Product/?product=67eb65f5-f718-4c87-9caf-8d32b04f4fea#

Thanks a ton for this tip, I bit the bullet and placed an order for three of these for my upcoming system. 30" monitor with good specs and reviews, and built-in pivot (Dell doesn't have), for under $1k each = the win.

Credit card approval was already given, just waiting for them to get some refurbs in stock and ship them to me... I can wait a couple months if that's what it takes... exciting!

Now to make a gulftown/fermi system to power all three of them...

Bolas

02-19-2010, 07:21 PM

Ok... the wait is killing me... hope they get some refurbished monitors in soon... Dell 3008WFP's were on sale for $1400-ish recently, but looks like that sale is over. Sigh....

2slick4u

02-21-2010, 06:25 PM

I need help with getting 1920 by 1080 to fit everything in screeen? anybody can give me some advice? i dunno if its my graphics card which is a gtx 260 or it has something to do with something else?

AndrewZorn

02-22-2010, 05:43 PM

I just thought I'd swing by to mention that the Dell U2711 mentioned earlier is selling for cheap on Ebay, i just got one, new, for $825 shipped (after cashback). A lot less than the $1100(+tax, for me) it is stuck at on Dell.com. Just like an order from Dell (which it pretty much is, PM me if you want to know), it won't be shipping anytime soon... but I figured I would have easily bought it for that price if Dell had a sale, so why not do it through Ebay...

Kind of unrelated, but all the talk of the U2711 lately, I had to let it out somewhere.

what do you mean 2slick4u?

2slick4u

02-22-2010, 06:36 PM

I just thought I'd swing by to mention that the Dell U2711 mentioned earlier is selling for cheap on Ebay, i just got one, new, for $825 (after cashback). A lot less than the $1100 it is stuck at on Dell.com. Just like an order from Dell (which it pretty much is, PM me if you want to know), it won't be shipping anytime soon... but I figured I would have easily bought it for that price if Dell had a sale, so why not do it through Ebay...

Kind of unrelated, but all the talk of the U2711 lately, I had to let it out somewhere.

what do you mean 2slick4u?

Hey I actually got it to work. I had the input on hdmi av instead of hdmi pc which was why my resolution was really weird but its fine :)

hlonipha

03-03-2010, 04:08 PM

Dell 3008 wfp!!!!!!

AndrewZorn

03-04-2010, 04:13 PM

just got my U2711... so awesome
the anti-glare finish leaves a little bit of graininess though...........

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4406936355_653d050488_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4407316665_d6d954b6d3_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4407316683_9347ce7560_o.jpg

i admit, not that much bigger than a 24", but the resolution is realllly nice, and im glad to have no black bars in movies/PS3 games (speaking of which, no more HDMI switch, tons of inputs!)

first monitor ive really felt 100% comfortable with two webpages or something side-by-side... as it gives what, more screen area for each than a 1280x1024 LCD?

kylepaddock

03-04-2010, 04:50 PM

Dudddde u need a new keyboard...

AndrewZorn

03-04-2010, 04:50 PM

heresy!
do you know what you are talking about?

STEvil

03-04-2010, 06:22 PM

I want that keyboard lol

hlonipha

03-04-2010, 09:38 PM

Dudddde u need a new keyboard...

:rofl::lol:

kylepaddock

03-04-2010, 09:50 PM

:rofl::lol:

hay, its old. I have like 20 of those

AndrewZorn

03-04-2010, 10:39 PM

it isnt old, and i dont think you have 20, and i dont need a new one...

hint:

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/589/39795499.png

yes, sometimes i regret going for white, but i like the classic look (and i got a better deal on it)

HelixPC

03-04-2010, 10:49 PM

you paid that much for that keyboard? wow, thats all i can say. Looks like my Pentium 166MHZ MMX computer's keyboard i had in 1996

AndrewZorn

03-04-2010, 11:06 PM

not quite that much, but yeah, looks are all that matter, and white=crap, so it totally sucks...

Bolas

03-17-2010, 01:00 PM

Yay, my monitors ship tomorrow! Long wait to get three of them in stock. Now I just need to build a computer that can power three of them...

Most of the stuff that I want isn't out yet... a pity.

Rough draft of build:

Motherboard: Asus Rampage III Extreme (if it comes out in the next two weeks) or Gigabyge GA-X58A-UD7 (if it doesn't).

CPU: Intel Core i7 980X, gulftown

Graphics: not sure here yet. I should probably wait to see if fermi will be any good or not. Guess I'll find out in two weeks.

Power Supply: Corsair 1000HX (unless my system needs more power?!?)

Memory: 12 GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz DDR3

Case: Corsair 800D (suitably noob friendly case)

Boot drive: Crucial RealSSD C300 256GB

Data drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

Optical drive: LG Blu-Ray burner

OS: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

I'll try to figure out some water cooling as well.

AndrewZorn

03-17-2010, 08:28 PM

wow, i didnt think they would ever actually get them in... great deal

Bolas

03-19-2010, 07:43 PM

OMG it got better... they gave me a discount because I waited so long to get the monitors. Three refurbished 30" displays for the price of one new one, anyone?!?

This puts my budget for the computer to power them back into the "dream" range. YAY!!

AndrewZorn

03-20-2010, 06:53 AM

wow that is crazy
i am really thinking about buying one (+) as well now
1yr warranty each is pretty good too...

man that is SUCH a good deal

Bolas

03-20-2010, 10:27 AM

wow that is crazy
i am really thinking about buying one (+) as well now
1yr warranty each is pretty good too...

man that is SUCH a good deal

I'm thinking about buying THREE more of them and either getting six-way eyefinity with six thirty-inchers or setting my wife up with three of them... but I know that's just craziness and I'll barely have room for three in portrait on my desk as it is. Guess I'll wait and see how these three do first and then decide... no rush as long as these work great, after all.

antiacid

03-31-2010, 07:40 AM

I got my 3007wfp-hc for 900$ CAD 2nd hand (the folks were using it as an output for their laptops, then realized that by switching to new laptops they lost out on the larger res since it has no scaler). Anyway, It's ridiculously fast and the color reproduction is top notch. For gaming, there's no better alternative if you're concerned about ghosting and latency.

Frag Maniac

03-31-2010, 03:03 PM

Now that we've seen a 27" 16:9 from Dell, I'd like to see a 30" 16:9, maybe even with optional HDTV tuner. It would no doubt cost more than I'd want to pay though.

Blueking

04-18-2010, 05:25 AM

I am trying to figure out what monitor I am going to buy
Dell U2711 or Dell 3008WFP what one are best ? panel wise

[XC] Synthetickiller

04-18-2010, 07:09 AM

I was hoping that the 27" 2560x1440 monitors would bridge the price gap between 24" 1920x1200 (screw 1080p 24") and 30" 2560x1600, but obviously, dell thought otherwise since many other 30" monitors are around $1000-$1100.

That refurbished NEC 30" looks to be a steal. How does it compare to the 30" LG?