HD5770 Cooling

[SonDa5]

What is your set up?

Photos?

Load temp screen shots?


Details?

[skugpezz]

here is my load/idle/clocks

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8595/bestclocks.jpg

[Mungri]

Ive posted mine a few times, but here it is again :)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1636/dsc00425zw.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6678/5770zalman1000.th.png (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/5770zalman1000.png/)

[SonDa5]

Ive posted mine a few times, but here it is again :)


Cool. I saw a few threads here and there but not a specific thread where everyone could share there set up.



This is the stock reference HD5770 heat sink. Ok but really not meant for extreme over clocking. With a decent heat sink upgrade the HD5770 GPU cools down quite a bit.

http://minidriven.com/GreenMachine/HD5770Heatsink1.jpg

[SonDa5]

here is my load/idle/clocks



Thanks.

Is that on stock cooling?

[pr@$r1g]

^^ yeah & i have put some MX-3 to cool it down

[Mungri]

The new batches of the 5770 are now being sold with the Egg heatpipe cooler:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15368488&postcount=397

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/GX-219-AS_26200_400.jpg

The cooler on them is mighty big, doesnt look as nice as the phoenix shroud, but the heatsink is like 3-4 times larger. I knew I should have waited, I wouldnt have needed to buy the Zalmans then :(

[Touche Turtle]

Here's another thread about the new 5770 V2 (with a reply from someone from Asus).

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=178291


Hey,

Yes, we've changed the cooler on the cards. You'll find that the new cooler is quieter and provides better temperatures.

You were right about the model code too, the "V2" describes that change of the card and is going to be replacing the original card (In the UK at least).

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6694/asus5770cooler.jpg

[SonDa5]

Here is some initial results on cooling with TR HR-03 (rev. A) heat sink. no fan on single HD5770.

http://minidriven.com/GreenMachine/SystemtempssingleTRHD5770tuning.jpg

My Antec 900 case does have a side fan blowing air onto the heat sink.

If anyone knows of a good 92mmx92mm25mm fan with 4 pin pwm connection for HD5770 please direct me to it. With a fan I think I can lower my temps even more.

[skugpezz]

Thanks.

Is that on stock cooling?
yeap stock cooling with costum fanspeed setup in afterburner.


Here is some initial results on cooling with TR HR-03 (rev. A) heat sink. no fan on single HD5770.

My Antec 900 case does have a side fan blowing air onto the heat sink.

If anyone knows of a good 92mmx92mm25mm fan with 4 pin pwm connection for HD5770 please direct me to it. With a fan I think I can lower my temps even more.

a picture of the card would have be nice :(

[b3ta]

I knew I should have waited, I wouldnt have needed to buy the Zalmans then :(

A post further down in the thread at bit-tech suggests that it doesn't have heatsink(s) for the memory on the GPU side and that they are just exposed. Did the stock coolers you removed from your 5770s have contact pads for the memory?

[skugpezz]

A post further down in the thread at bit-tech suggests that it doesn't have heatsink(s) for the memory on the GPU side and that they are just exposed. Did the stock coolers you removed from your 5770s have contact pads for the memory?
My 5770 has a long ramsink that covers the memory chips(the vrms are bare though). I have reference design 5770

[Splave]

Ive heard that the egg shape coolers are 5-10c worse than the v1

[Theorw]

My 5770 @1,2volts/850core with hardmod stays exactly @71 degrees on furmark...
On 1,34 1000core gets over 85...Then i either stop it or it hangs...
I also noticed that the same voltage from 850core to 1000core
1)1000core is stable exactly 1,340v +-0.002 while 850core goes 1,330+-0,01!!!So clock high to get stable voltage!!!
2)850 core needed 1,330 while when set to 1000 it get to 1,34!

[skugpezz]

My 5770 @1,2volts/850core with hardmod stays exactly @71 degrees on furmark...
On 1,34 1000core gets over 85...Then i either stop it or it hangs...
I also noticed that the same voltage from 850core to 1000core
1)1000core is stable exactly 1,340v +-0.002 while 850core goes 1,330+-0,01!!!So clock high to get stable voltage!!!
2)850 core needed 1,330 while when set to 1000 it get to 1,34!
you seem to use high voltages...

[Theorw]

you seem to use high voltages...

So what???:)
The card can and the cooler can handle them in games so its ok.Actually u should all know that when u set 1,35 in MSI what u really get is OVER 1,4volt so i dont think that my 1,34 is too much!RIGHT?

[Touche Turtle]

Ive heard that the egg shape coolers are 5-10c worse than the v1

Really? I can only see that happening if case ventilation is poor.

Have you seen the V1 cooler under the hood? It's very basic, and the only advantage it has over the V2 cooler that I can see is the fact it exhausts the hot air out of the case. With good case ventilation the V2 cooler should perform better with its thick copper base, fairly big heat-pipes and top-down fan.

The RAM chips on the front of the V2 card aren't 'sinked like they are on the V1 (they are very low-profile 'sinks, not really up to much), but they are unobstructed by shroud/platic and are directly underneath the heatsink so will get a constant direct flow of air from the fan. There looks like there's enough room for decent ramsinks too.

[skugpezz]

So what???:)
Actually u should all know that when u set 1,35 in MSI what u really get is OVER 1,4volt so i dont think that my 1,34 is too much!RIGHT?

I didnt know that... have link to this info:yepp:

[Mungri]

Looks aside, the V1 coolers heatsink is absolute pants compared to the Asus V2.

Exhausting hot air is pointless when the tiny heatsink cant even keep overclocked load temps below 90 degrees.

Heatpipe fansinks have always been better at reducing GPU temperature, and why on earth does case temperature matter at all so long as your GPU and CPU are adequately cooled?

[SonDa5]

a picture of the card would have be nice :(


Here is photo of single HD5770 with TR HR-03 rev. A.

http://minidriven.com/GreenMachine/HD5770withTRHR-03.jpg

I have 2 HD5770s. I have been running a single HD5770 with the TR HR-03 (rev. A) for over a week now. Just seeing how it runs with the TR HR-03 (rev. A) without a fan. Seems to work very well and I'll put the other HD5770 with same heat sink together soon.

[Touche Turtle]

Looks aside, the V1 coolers heatsink is absolute pants compared to the Asus V2.

Exhausting hot air is pointless when the tiny heatsink cant even keep overclocked load temps below 90 degrees.

Heatpipe fansinks have always been better at reducing GPU temperature, and why on earth does case temperature matter at all so long as your GPU and CPU are adequately cooled?

I agree with all you said except the last bit which I've highlighted. Case temp is critical to how well an air cooler works - no heatsink in the world can cool below the ambient case temp. If the case temp is hot then so will the cpu & gpu if their coolers are using the hot air inside the case.

So, although the v2 cooler should be better than the v1, it still needs nice cool air to work with, hence the importance of good case ventilation.

[Mungri]

As long as you have an intake and an exhaust fan, you have cool air ;).

Most cases these days have two of each.

[Touche Turtle]

As long as you have an intake and an exhaust fan, you have cool air ;).

Most cases these days have two of each.

Yup, as long as case ventilation is adequate there shouldn't be a problem. It just that your previous statement gave the impression that case temperature was irrelevant, which is totally wrong:


why on earth does case temperature matter at all so long as your GPU and CPU are adequately cooled?

If I misunderstood then I apologise. :)

[pvhk]

Personnally, i'm happy with the stock cooler V1:
my CF runs @1010/1250 @1.237v max gpu temp@60°
my single sapphire @1070/1350 @1.274v : max gpu temp@68° (this card runs hotter even @stock compared to the others but hits higher clock: 1100mhz for the core!)
I'm not disturbed by the noise of the fan even @80%...

[ReverendMaynard]

Really? I can only see that happening if case ventilation is poor.

Have you seen the V1 cooler under the hood? It's very basic, and the only advantage it has over the V2 cooler that I can see is the fact it exhausts the hot air out of the case. With good case ventilation the V2 cooler should perform better with its thick copper base, fairly big heat-pipes and top-down fan.



really, and my system is on a tech bench in a 20C ambient environment. My MSI V1 5770 idles/loads at 27C/60C and the Sapphire V2 idles at 40C/70C. Both retimmed with MX3 and both getting enough air to rule out ventilation. The V1 cooler might be basic, but the design is better by miles just because how the air moves across the sink.

[SonDa5]

really, and my system is on a tech bench in a 20C ambient environment. My MSI V1 5770 idles/loads at 27C/60C and the Sapphire V2 idles at 40C/70C. Both retimmed with MX3 and both getting enough air to rule out ventilation. The V1 cooler might be basic, but the design is better by miles just because how the air moves across the sink.



Did you test each card in the same slot with the same configuration 1 card in your case at a time?


Post somce GPU-Z furmark load screen shots if you can.

[In-Fluence]

Got mine a couple of days ago, and was pleased to notice I could put my HR-03 on it as well. Real nice GPU, and a vast improvement over my 8600GTs, and the cooler is quieter during idle than I expected, but that wont be an issue once I get the thermalright on there :)
Also chuffed to have spanned monitor modes back too. Just waiting for our Samsung 32" 7020 TV and Blu-Ray drive to arrive today, then I'll be a happy bunny :D

[Touche Turtle]

really, and my system is on a tech bench in a 20C ambient environment. My MSI V1 5770 idles/loads at 27C/60C and the Sapphire V2 idles at 40C/70C. Both retimmed with MX3 and both getting enough air to rule out ventilation. The V1 cooler might be basic, but the design is better by miles just because how the air moves across the sink.

That's surprising. Is that testing the cards individually or in crossfire (I beleieve it's not unusual for crossfired cards to show different temps)?

I'n not sure I agree that the v1 cooler is superior because of the way it blows the air over the sink because the aftermarket coolers I've seen (which are definately an improvement) don't blow the air in the same way.

I guess the picture will become clearer as time goes on and more people post their experiences with these cards, it's still early days.

[ReverendMaynard]

That's surprising. Is that testing the cards individually or in crossfire (I beleieve it's not unusual for crossfired cards to show different temps)?

I'n not sure I agree that the v1 cooler is superior because of the way it blows the air over the sink because the aftermarket coolers I've seen (which are definately an improvement) don't blow the air in the same way.

I guess the picture will become clearer as time goes on and more people post their experiences with these cards, it's still early days.

Crossfire, with in both PCIE positions (MSI in slot one, then Sapphire in slot one) and separately.

Here's a screen for ya that pretty much seals the deal. I'm aware that multi cards show different temps due to a few factors like ari flow, but it's usually GPU1 that takes the hit so this shows the cooler even working better in Crossfire.

the gpu usage is a bit off, 93 vs 99% but that doesn't translate into 19C. That's something that I'll have to look into. Could be a driver issue.

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1553/indexphp3.jpg

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/5881/indexphp2.jpg

[kiwik]

Do you get the same temps if you don't use the two cards at the same time?

[ReverendMaynard]

The MSI card is actually cooler.

[Splave]

thanks rev, glad I bought the v1 coolers :) on all 4 of the cards I have comming

[ReverendMaynard]

you have 4 on the way? Get your hearing protection sorted before delivery....they're loud lol.

[kiwik]

Thanks ReverendMaynard.

[Meaker]

Are the sapphire and asus coolers the same, they don't look like it to me.

[ReverendMaynard]

Identical reference design for all V2 5770's. It's just the angle.

[Splave]

you have 4 on the way? Get your hearing protection sorted before delivery....they're loud lol.

yeah top secret mission ;) Just testing 4-way out on the new board and antec tpq-1200 :up: def need muffs

[Touche Turtle]

Interesting results there, Rev, and not what I was expecting to see.

Is it the exception or the rule? We'll have to wait and see but if the majority of people come to the same conclusion then Asus will have to be challenged on their claim that the V2 cooler is more efficient than the V1 counterpart as one of their representatives stated on the Bit-tech forums.

Must say I'm very surprised by that result.

[ReverendMaynard]

We need more people with both revisions to really get the gist, but being someone who's been in the industry for years, unless something is failed outright, which the REV1 cooler is not by any means, companies won't just gift out a better cooling solution...they find the cheapest regardless of the performance.

[snoro]

you all made me worry a bit cause i bought a v1 5770 cause i needed a gpu fastly since it was my only parts missing for my build ( damm 5850 that was always out of stock made me go for the 5770 and i am very happy with it). About temperature, when i was running 3dmark vantage, the highest temperature i have seen was 52c and the idle temp is 30c with user defined fan speed in msi afterburner. Was running 960/1440 at 1174 volt with xfx stock bios, now its running at 1174 volt, 950/1350 when i need some extra power in game. In s4 league with 1920x1080 with high detail, it never goes up more than 44c

[ReverendMaynard]

your temps are pretty much exactly how the V1 should perform.

[Touche Turtle]

We need more people with both revisions to really get the gist, but being someone who's been in the industry for years, unless something is failed outright, which the REV1 cooler is not by any means, companies won't just gift out a better cooling solution...they find the cheapest regardless of the performance.

It's more unusual for a company representative to make such a claim that's so easily disproved, though. I mean, to state an improvement had been made when actually the opposite is true would be a pretty stupid thing to do, wouldn't it?

[ReverendMaynard]

You mean this


Hey,

Yes, we've changed the cooler on the cards. You'll find that the new cooler is quieter and provides better temperatures.

You were right about the model code too, the "V2" describes that change of the card and is going to be replacing the original card (In the UK at least).

VK
____________

He also says "we" as in they're the only ones that changed it. It's the design from the 5750, which is a cheaper card. Why would Ati change the cooler? And let's get this straight, Ati changed it, not ASUS ; because it's cheaper to make one kind than two.

[keenan]

Modded D-tek Fusion GFX block

Needed to drill new holes, saw off some edges and reverse the whole mounting procedure, but in the end I managed to get it up and running..

http://i47.tinypic.com/wb8duv.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2l8j0o1.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2vcdhf4.jpg

[ReverendMaynard]

very nice keenan.

[Splave]

people see a fat ass heatpipe and get all excited where a silly peice of alu pwns it :) i love it

[keenan]

very nice keenan.

It looks pants tho, I'd like to make a proper mounting plate, but I'll leave that for the December holidays..

It's is however nice to not hear the turbine cooler speed up :)

[ReverendMaynard]

It looks pants tho, I'd like to make a proper mounting plate, but I'll leave that for the December holidays..

It's is however nice to not hear the turbine cooler speed up :)

eff the looks keenan, function over fashion any day of the week!


people see a fat ass heatpipe and get all excited where a silly peice of alu pwns it :) i love it


it looks like plated aluminum so I'm sure if was at least copper it would done...better? LOL.

[Touche Turtle]

You mean this



He also says "we" as in they're the only ones that changed it. It's the design from the 5750, which is a cheaper card. Why would Ati change the cooler? And let's get this straight, Ati changed it, not ASUS ; because it's cheaper to make one kind than two.

It's not the design from the 5750. If you look closely at a 5750 the heatsink is very different underneath the cover - no heatpipes, just a very regular finned heatsink.


He also says "we" as in they're the only ones that changed it

I didn't read it that way. I read it to mean that they had changed the heatsink, which they have.

[ReverendMaynard]

You can read it however you wish but it's all bull :banana::banana::banana::banana: too me. :)

[Touche Turtle]

You can read it however you wish but it's all bull :banana::banana::banana::banana: too me. :)

I was just pointing out that it's not the same cooler as the 5750, as you said previously. ;) (Someone may have read it and taken it as fact when it's not infact true.)

I'm willing to accept that the V1 cooler is the more efficient of the two if that turns out to be the case, but I'll reserve my judgement for a little while. :)

[ReverendMaynard]

from the top they look the same, I don't own one but it was a fair assumption ;) In the meantime my MSI is the single card winner in clocks and temps so my judgment is made.

[Touche Turtle]

from the top they look the same, I don't own one but it was a fair assumption ;) In the meantime my MSI is the single card winner in clocks and temps so my judgment is made.

Yea, they do look similar from a glance. I don't own one either but when the new 5770 V2 appeared, my first thought also was that they'd switched to the 5750 cooler so I checked out a few pictures online.

Here's half-decent shot showing the 5750's heatsink (http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1105/radeon_5750.jpg). It's just a bog-standard passive round heatsink.

[Mungri]

Im not sure whats up with my cards. You can see the whole thread I made on how hot they were getting with the V1 cooler, the first card was hitting up to 100 degrees when clocked to 1 Ghz with default fan speed.

I dont actually trust the results shown in this thread after having already tested mine, there is no way that the V1 cooler can keep the card below 50 degrees under full load.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=238123

[ReverendMaynard]

Im not sure whats up with my cards. You can see the whole thread I made on how hot they were getting with the V1 cooler, the first card was hitting up to 100 degrees when clocked to 1 Ghz with default fan speed.

I dont actually trust the results shown in this thread after having already tested mine, there is no way that the V1 cooler can keep the card below 50 degrees under full load.

Not looking for any trust to be honest, just trying to let people know that V1's aren't as bad as people like yourself have made them out too be. I can't force either of these cards to hit 100C without failure so too me, your results cannot be trusted.

100C by all means = failure of the heatsink and fan not inadequacy. You sure the fan was plugged in? :ROTF:

[Mungri]

When clocked to 1000 Mhz on DEFAULT fan speed, the V1 cooler would cause the chip to exceed 100 degrees under both battleforge and Dragon Age Origins.

When the fan speed was raised to 75%, the temperature dropped to around 88-95 degrees but while making much noise.

With the Zalman silent heatpipe coolers, my cards are now down to around 80 degrees at 1000 Mhz.

You will find that if you repeat these actual gaming tests on any V1 cooler at 1000 Mhz, you will get the same results, furmark temperatures are around 10-15 degrees lower than actual gaming results are.

The tests shown above were also done open case, hence not an accurate reflection of the temperatures you would see under normal use.

Also, I think that the V2 cooler may actually have a lower RPM as it is described as a quieter cooler, so even if both are at 50%, the V1 would be spinning faster, which would make it a biased comparison.

The earlier comparison screenshots show one of them at 1 RPM, so there is a problem there and the comparison may not be at the same RPM.

I am also only bothered with temperature readings at 1000 Mhz because the V1 cooler is fine up to 960, it only starts failing with an unlocked bios.

Under the assumption that the V2 cooler performs the same as my Zalmans, then that is what makes me believe it is better while being completely silent. I personally could not tolerate the sound level of two V1 coolers at 75%, and I have severe hearing loss too.

Download battleforge for free which uses DX11 and test your temperatures while running that game, and I am sure you will see 90-100 degrees :).

[keenan]

No game will put near as much stress on a gpu as furmark does...

The only conclusion would be that your Coolers were'nt making full contact with the gpu, there's been a couple of cases that proved this.

or you live in a country with 65'C ambient...

Here is a screenshot of my xfx with the stock cooler on 70% fanspeed...

http://i37.tinypic.com/4uvuc3.jpg

[ReverendMaynard]

^ Almost identical too what I get, except my memory dumps at 1430. That's a decent card keenan, is the memory stock volts?

[SonDa5]

I dont actually trust the results shown in this thread after having already tested mine, there is no way that the V1 cooler can keep the card below 50 degrees under full load.


V1 didn't perform very well for me either.

I'd like to see more testing done between the V1 and V2 HD5770 in the same case. 1 GPU at a time.

In Xfire the temps can get out of control quick. 1 GPU will normally get hotter than the other unless a great cooling solution is being used.

[keenan]

^ Almost identical too what I get, except my memory dumps at 1430. That's a decent card keenan, is the memory stock volts?

Yep, no hardmods, just pulled the slider to the far right and there it stayed ;)

[pvhk]

clearly not good heatsink/gpu contact: 100°C is damned high!
My oced cards never get over 68°C fan @80%
those temperatures are similar to those obtained in benchmarkreviews
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=408&Itemid=72&limit=1&limitstart=16

[b3ta]

Thanks for the results ReverendMaynard, looks like I will be getting another 5770 with the V1 cooler instead :)

[Mungri]

No game will put near as much stress on a gpu as furmark does...

Heaven benchmark puts more stress on my GPUs then Furmark does. The difference isnt the cards being at 100% load, but when all of the GPUs features are utilised as in DX11, then the temperatures will go far higher than the maximum they get under furmark.

I had my cards 100% stable in furmark at 1025 - 1050 Mhz, but as soon as I loaded up Heaven benchmark or a game, they would crash within a couple of minutes. Furmark is a very unreliable stress test for these cards.

This right here was the usual result for my overclocked cards under Battleforge with the V1 cooler:

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2203/57701ghz.png

With the stock V1 fan on default, it would spin up to around 66% at 100 degrees, I were getting around 105 degrees without manually increasing the fan speds myself.

As a comparison, this is 1000 Mhz under furmark with a 75% fan speed:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9553/5770stock75.png

The difference may be because I couldnt get both cards up to 100% load in furmark.

P.S. Reverend, you could maybe try leaving your cards stressing for a lot longer then you did before untill they reach their maximum temperature. Temperatures from just a few seconds into Furmark arent exactly showing the cards fully heated up.

[Splave]

I mean how can you argue this? he has both the v1 and the v2 and the v2 isnt even close? Mystery solved.

[ReverendMaynard]

can't please them all Bobby.

Last night I was running the RE5 bench at 1650x1080 at 1000/1350 1.3v (DMM'd). The bench finished fine but when I got back to the desktop to check the temps, small pixel/shader type artifacts started to appear and then the system froze. I pulled the V2 card, re-ran the bench at 1041/1401 with the MSI V1 card and it had no issues, with the high temp recorded at 60C bang on.

[Mungri]

I mean how can you argue this? he has both the v1 and the v2 and the v2 isnt even close? Mystery solved.

Each one was only tested for a few seconds at stock speeds, not at 1000 Mhz or for long enough to allow the cards to reach maximum temp.

The result is not an accurate measure of both coolers.

I already know that the V1 cooler hardly goes over 60 degrees at stock speed and settings, that is not what I am bothered about - overclocked temperatures at 1000 Mhz is.

Your sig says that your cards are clocked to 1000 / 1400 right? Mind posting the temperatures you get at those speeds with furmark having been ran for at least 10 minutes?


can't please them all Bobby.

Last night I was running the RE5 bench at 1650x1080 at 1000/1350 1.3v (DMM'd). The bench finished fine but when I got back to the desktop to check the temps, small pixel/shader type artifacts started to appear and then the system froze. I pulled the V2 card, re-ran the bench at 1041/1401 with the MSI V1 card and it had no issues, with the high temp recorded at 60C bang on.

The small pixel / shader artifacts are caused by the card dropping back into 2D clocks, this is a very common problem on the 5770s and has nothing to do with overclocks or temperatures.

I also greatly doubt that your MSI card can remain at 60 degrees at 1041 Mhz, unless you were using 100% fan speed which most people would not be able to tolerate for 24/7 use. Like I said, post a 10 minute furmark run showing your temperatures as your claims are very very far off what other people have been reporting so far. But if you pulled out the second card, then yes your temperatures would drop by quite a lot when running just a single card. Crossfire temperatures are a lot higher then single card temperatures would be.




I'd like to see more testing done between the V1 and V2 HD5770 in the same case. 1 GPU at a time.



I am actually more interested in seeing two V1 cards, and two V2 cards in crossfire compared at 1000 Mhz, as this is what stresses the cards temperatures the most. Single 5770s do manage to remain below 70 degrees on the V1 cooler, but when two are put together with each one running at 100% GPU usage, this is when the temperatures go far too high, which was exactly my problem when running two V1 cooled cards.

I still have no doubt that two V2 cooled cards running in crossfire at 1000 Mhz will be much cooler than two V1 coolers, as is the case with my similar Zalman coolers.

Of course, with everyone here posting completely different results - single card / crossfire cards, stock speeds / overclocked speeds, no conclusion can actually be drawn as to which cooler is better, but I can at least conclude from my results that two V1 coolers are not capable for keeping temperatures acceptable in an overclocked crossfire setup, but the heatpipe based Zalman VF950s definately are a lot better.

[ReverendMaynard]

Go buy a V2 5770 and test it yourself pro. The day hwbot starts giving boints for furmark, I'll invest more than a minute or two with it. Otherwise, it's a card killer everyone knows that.

Keenan posted the results you're after. Seems like you're just pissed that your V1 experience isn't normal.

[kiwik]

I'll see if we received 5770 tonight at work, I could bring a pair here to test on my new rig during the weekend.

[Mungri]

Go buy a V2 5770 and test it yourself pro. The day hwbot starts giving boints for furmark, I'll invest more than a minute or two with it. Otherwise, it's a card killer everyone knows that.

Keenan posted the results you're after. Seems like you're just pissed that your V1 experience isn't normal.

Keenan is on water cooling, my issue was V1 cooler vs V2 at 1000 Mhz. I really dont have the money to go buying another two cards.

Your cards wont actually die unless the temperatures go abnormally high over 100 degrees, and this was really only an issue on the 4870s.

You are very capable of testing that, but for some reason you choose not to, I dont know why.

My V1 experience is completely normal, and is the same as what other people are reporting. You will get the same results in crossfire as well with both your cards at 1000 Mhz, but you are not posting anything to confirm how good or bad they are at 1000 Mhz.

At 850 Mhz, both my V1 coolers kept the cards at around 60 degrees, this is a normal result, but you still have not disproven that the V2 cooler may be more effective when the cards are clocked to 1000 Mhz.

I have already fully tested V1 vs Zalman VF950 - which is very similar to the V2 cooler. The heatpipe based coolers are far better when the card is overclocked, while also remaining silent.

I am sure that Asus's claim that the V2 cooler is quieter while offering lower temperatures is 100% true if the two were properly stressed.

[ReverendMaynard]

read his post.
No game will put near as much stress on a gpu as furmark does...

The only conclusion would be that your Coolers werent make full contact with the gpu, there's been a couple of cases that proved this.

or you live in a counrty with 65'C ambient...

Here is a screenshot of my xfx with the stock cooler on 70% fanspeed...

[Mungri]

Yes, but that is a single card with the fan at 70%, which is loud.

And crossfired ones run a lot lot hotter then a single one does.

The V2 would be able to offer the same performance in a single card setup while remaining quieter, plus performing better at higher temperature.

The V1 cooler is completely fine and has no problems up to 960 Mhz on these cards. But when you go above that, they need to be set very loud to keep the cards adequately cooled, particularly in crosfire, whereas the V2 will do the same thing while remaining much quieter :)

[Meaker]

Are you sure the sapphire one has the two large heatpipes, I have not seen proof of them in any pictures.

[ReverendMaynard]

yes it has the heatpipes, it's the exact same cooler as ALL of the V2 5770.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4125489&postcount=29

Look at the pic and you'd see the heat pipe.

[kiwik]

I confirm that Sapphire has switched it's SKU for the V2 cooler, we received one today and it's got the egg lookalike cooler. I'll bring one home to do some testing.

[pvhk]

As you can see below, the V1 cooler of my asus & gigabyte are doing a good job!
NO heat issue in xfire setting @1010/1275+ 8800GT for physX
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1858/img0650copier.th.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/img0650copier.jpg/)
61° for the upper card, 62° for the lower card with stressing call of pripyat:
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3834/pripyatbenchcopier.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7793/unigine2009112813073291.jpg
:D

[SilverSilence]

How do i increase the 2D clocks of the 5770?

[mattlef]

@pvhk

Arn't the fans insanely loud at 75%?

[pvhk]

probably for someone who is in search of silence!
For me: no! What matters for me is that this heatsink does a great job when it comes to oc!
Even @60%, it performs well:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5265/pripyat1000copier.jpg

[MadMan007]

This thread is funny. Why no one has mentioned that AMD calls Furmark a 'power virus' and seems to actively throttle cards in some way (probably through drivers) when running it I'm not sure. So Furmark is not the way to stress these cards.

[ReverendMaynard]

This thread is funny. Why no one has mentioned that AMD calls Furmark a 'power virus' and seems to actively throttle cards in some way (probably through drivers) when running it I'm not sure. So Furmark is not the way to stress these cards.

That's a bold statement.

I'd like to see a quote of that directly from AMD if you can provide. I've run furmark on dozens of AMD/ATi cards and never witnessed throttling in either the benchmarks or the extreme gpu burn.

[kiwik]

Furmark on Radeons 4870 made them hit 85C easily. This is probably just fudd.

I tested the Sapphire V2 5770, the cooler seemed to be adequately quiet for stock operation, didn't bother OC it tho. Without any tweaks, the cooler remained relatively quiet on a open bench, thought the fan will spin faster during stress, just not too much, couldn't monitor the speed of the fan as I didn't want to install CCC. I did notice something strange, the clock speeds reported by GPU-Z were flickering all along.

I saw that they removed a few capacitors on the cards, althought it uses the same PCB, there are 2-3 capacitors missing for sure.

[SonDa5]

I saw that they removed a few capacitors on the cards, althought it uses the same PCB, there are 2-3 capacitors missing for sure.


That probably saved a few bucks.

:D

So I guess it's safe to think that the V2 HD5770s are all about saving money in production costs.

So strange that the HD5770 was changed so fast.

[Astennu]

UHmm to bad. It looks like they made a cost reduction on the 5770. I cant get any V1 in my country. But there are a lot of shops with the V2 :( to bad i would rather have a V1.

[Touche Turtle]

I have the Asus 5770 V2 ("egg" cooler) and I'm very pleased with it.

Haven't played with it much but it's running 1GHz/1250MHz at 1.225v and after a 10 minute soak in Furmark it reached 66C with the fan on auto and the temps appeared to have levelled off. In games it hasn't got hotter than 51C and it idles at 29C. So far I haven't noticed any noise from the fan, it's doing a great job.

It gets the thumbs-up from me. :up:

[ReverendMaynard]

That probably saved a few bucks.

:D

So I guess it's safe to think that the V2 HD5770s are all about saving money in production costs.

So strange that the HD5770 was changed so fast.

I tried to say this a few pages ago and no one believed me lol. :shrug:

[Touche Turtle]

I tried to say this a few pages ago and no one believed me lol. :shrug:

That's for a couple of reasons: Your testing methodology (as explained to you at great length by another poster) and because you also said they down-graded the cooler to the part fitted to the 5750 cards, which was incorrect.

At the end of the day, it's only a graphics card - V1 or V2, does it really matter? As long as people are happy with their purchase, who cares? :)

[ReverendMaynard]

That's for a couple of reasons: Your testing methodology (as explained to you at great length by another poster) and because you also said they down-graded the cooler to the part fitted to the 5750 cards, which was incorrect.

At the end of the day, it's only a graphics card - V1 or V2, does it really matter? As long as people are happy with their purchase, who cares? :)

When someone asks me to burn up a card for the sake of proving something I already know...I'll do what I think is best for my gear, not for the better of the 5770 club even if they are cheap cards. RMA's cost time.

And so I made a bad on the 5750 cooler comment.:clap: Give me an effing break guy lol.

[Touche Turtle]

When someone asks me to burn up a card for the sake of proving something I already know

That's part of the problem - you had already formed an opinion in your own mind and this shows in your testing.

[ReverendMaynard]

Common sense prevails. Give it a shot, it saves allot of unnecessary time and effort.

[Touche Turtle]

Firstly, I don't give a monkeys which is cooler, as long as they each do a good enough job, so this isn't a desperate attempt to try and prove the V2 is superior - I'm simply trying to form an impartial opinion based on reliable and unbiased testing. I'd be interested to see comparable V1 test results, run for a similar length of time etc to get some idea what's really going on with these coolers.

Ok, here are my results after 5 minutes of Furmark on a V2 5770 overclocked to 1003MHz/1250MHz, 1.225v.

Relevant info:
Ambient room temp = 19C. Card cooling is totally standard, straight out of the box - no lapping etc and the TIM is original. Running at 1003MHz/1250MHz 1.225v inside a tower case with side panel removed, no additional fans cooling the card. Card fan is set to "auto" and doesn't exceed 65% during the test (as can be seen in the screenshot). Furmark settings can be seen in the screenshot.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6711/furbench.jpg

GPU temp: min 30, max 65
GPU usage: min 0, max 96
Fan speed: min 50, max 65
Core clock: min 157, max 1003
Memory clock: min 300, max 1250

[SonDa5]

I tried to say this a few pages ago and no one believed me lol. :shrug:


I still think more test need to be done to show which cooler is better.

Also since both cards have different PCBs the best way to see which cooler works better will be to put the V1 and V2 heat sink on 1 card only.

The new PCB may effect the overall heat of the card. So it would be best to test the heat sinks on the exact same card with the same conditions.


The V2 heat sink looks superior.

[SilverSilence]

I got two MSI's recently and got the V1 coolers, honestly, they look way sexier (What's up with all this egg crap?) and i prefer them because hot air goes out the back of the case and not into the case ;)

[kiwik]

Crappy pictures of the card online finally.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/691/dscn0819d.th.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/dscn0819d.jpg/) http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3782/dscn0818.th.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/dscn0818.jpg/) http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8136/dscn0817t.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/dscn0817t.jpg/)

[Splave]

Firstly, I don't give a monkeys which is cooler, as long as they each do a good enough job, so this isn't a desperate attempt to try and prove the V2 is superior - I'm simply trying to form an impartial opinion based on reliable and unbiased testing. I'd be interested to see comparable V1 test results, run for a similar length of time etc to get some idea what's really going on with these coolers.

Ok, here are my results after 5 minutes of Furmark on a V2 5770 overclocked to 1003MHz/1250MHz, 1.225v.

Relevant info:
Ambient room temp = 19C. Card cooling is totally standard, straight out of the box - no lapping etc and the TIM is original. Running at 1003MHz/1250MHz 1.225v inside a tower case with side panel removed, no additional fans cooling the card. Card fan is set to "auto" and doesn't exceed 65% during the test (as can be seen in the screenshot). Furmark settings can be seen in the screenshot.


GPU temp: min 30, max 65
GPU usage: min 0, max 96
Fan speed: min 50, max 65
Core clock: min 157, max 1003
Memory clock: min 300, max 1250

I have 4 of these and im pissed. They run cool enough for my purposes at 100% fan speed. But they use cheap as ram that wont go past 1350
http://clubnboc.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=317.0;attach=6033; image

[pr@$r1g]

has any one tried Arctic Cooling L2 Pro ???

[kiwik]

I have one (AC L2) on my old X1900XT that I put in the HTPC. It's a good cooler, but his only made of aluminum, so there are limits to it's effectiveness.

[nullface]

So go for V1 if possible?

[Touche Turtle]

I have 4 of these and im pissed. They run cool enough for my purposes at 100% fan speed. But they use cheap as ram that wont go past 1350
http://clubnboc.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=317.0;attach=6033; image

100% fan speed seems excessive to me. I'm happy with the overclocked temperature of my card at only 65% fan speed. I've yet to see a comparable test showing a V1 card doing any better, but I have read about many doing quite a bit worse on the various hardware forums. ;)

Where did you source the RAM price? I wouldn't have thought it was "cheap as" - they're the exact same modules as fitted to the 58xx cards.

[pvhk]

My sapphire V1 cooler gets the job done @65%:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4148/sapphire1000copier.jpg

[Touche Turtle]

Nice one, seems to be working well.

[ReverendMaynard]

100% fan speed seems excessive to me. I'm happy with the overclocked temperature of my card at only 65% fan speed. I've yet to see a comparable test showing a V1 card doing any better, but I have read about many doing quite a bit worse on the various hardware forums. ;)

Where did you source the RAM price? I wouldn't have thought it was "cheap as" - they're the exact same modules as fitted to the 58xx cards.

He has 4 cards, and he's tested them thoroughly so what it looks like here is you're just looking to disagree because you can't bring anything relevant too the subject other than you've seen different or better results on other forums. Seriously go somewhere else if all you can do is be a pita.

FYI, his "cheap" comment was based on the FACT that the V2 was introduced to cut costs.

[Touche Turtle]

He has 4 cards, and he's tested them thoroughly so what it looks like here is you're just looking to disagree because you can't bring anything relevant too the subject other than you've seen different or better results on other forums. Seriously go somewhere else if all you can do is be a pita.

FYI, his "cheap" comment was based on the FACT that the V2 was introduced to cut costs.

No need for a hissy fit - you've got me all wrong. Re-read my posts and you may understand where I'm coming from. I'm trying to show some decent test results here, not half-baked 15 second test runs like the one you based your conclusions on. ;)


Seriously go somewhere else if all you can do is be a pita

Don't want to take the wind out of your sails but I've been a member here for years and it'll take a higher authority than you to get rid of me. If a mod tells me I'm overstepping the mark then I'll gladly wind my neck in but I think you're over-reacting.

[ReverendMaynard]

If you're going to insult test methods at least know wtf you're talking about and please don't exaggerate. The test I showed was 61 seconds, 1 hour doesn't produce higher temps....at all. So please stop with the bs and bring your own tests to the table.

You can give us all 30 minutes furmark on your stock cooled V2 @ 1000/1400 at whatever voltage it requires or stfu please :)

[Touche Turtle]

If you're going to insult test methods at least know wtf you're talking about and please don't exaggerate. The test I showed was 61 seconds, 1 hour doesn't produce higher temps....at all. So please stop with the bs and bring your own tests to the table.

You can give us all 30 minutes furmark on your stock cooled V2 @ 1000/1400 at whatever voltage it requires or stfu please :)

You expect me to believe those temps were maxed? Look at the picture you posted again, look at the temp graphs. Do they look maxed-out to you? No. They are still very much on the rise and no-where near levelled-off.

I don't know what you're trying to pull with this bull-:banana::banana::banana::banana: fella, but please credit us with some intelligence.

Hmmm, why are you asking me to "bring my own tests to the table" when I already have?!! (Look on the previous page fella, it's there, clear as day for all to see. Nice solid methodology too ;)).

Edit: here is the picture I was referrign to, posted by Rev. So, you're telling us after just 1 minute of Furmark, these temps have reached their peak and have levelled-off, despite the fact they are clearly still ramping up as can be seen in the picture?

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/5881/indexphp2.jpg

[MadMan007]

That's a bold statement.

I'd like to see a quote of that directly from AMD if you can provide. I've run furmark on dozens of AMD/ATi cards and never witnessed throttling in either the benchmarks or the extreme gpu burn.

Not sure this is worth it given your less than friendly replies otherwise but..it's not very bold, AMD called it a 'power virus' themselves and have been throttling cards through drivers it turns out for a while, or maybe they've gotten a bit more sneaky in the throttling so it doesn't show up in simple frequency graphs It may just not happen all the time or only on higher-end cards too :shrug: Google 'furmark power virus' or 'AMD power virus' and do some reading.

[Astennu]

Not sure this is worth it given your less than friendly replies otherwise but..it's not very bold, AMD called it a 'power virus' themselves and have been throttling cards through drivers it turns out for a while, or maybe they've gotten a bit more sneaky in the throttling so it doesn't show up in simple frequency graphs It may just not happen all the time or only on higher-end cards too :shrug: Google 'furmark power virus' or 'AMD power virus' and do some reading.

True but the new 1.7 furmark has a renamed EXE. So the driver will think its a game. Or they have to have some other kind of protection against it.

Furmark does load higher then games. But because of that its a good test for your cooling setup an stability. And there are soms GPGPU apps that come close to the same kind of load that furmark gives.

[MadMan007]

Renamed .exe doesn't fix it (from Furmark's viewpoint) AMD changed that in their drivers long ago and now they apparently do some kind of check for the actual OpenGL calls that Furmark runs. :shrug: If AMD wants to throttle it or keep it from overloading their cards they'll find a way, the occasionally updated Furmark isn't going to keep up with them. Whatever...Furmark is just one program after all and we shouldn't be so umm...religious about it.

[Touche Turtle]

Here's the first review I've seen which directly compares the V1 and V2 cards. I've no idea how reputable the review site is but it seems sensible enough, if a little badly translated.

Full review here. (http://en.expreview.com/2009/12/04/radeon-hd-5770-first-second-edition-performance-comparison/6015.html)

http://en.expreview.com/img/2009/12/04/gputemp.png

http://en.expreview.com/img/2009/12/04/pcbtemp.png

http://en.expreview.com/img/2009/12/04/casetemp.png

[In-Fluence]

Here are some quick snaps I took of my 5770 with the thermalright HR-03 on the card which I decided to run with a 120mm fan on about 600rpm just to keep a bit of a flow through it...

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z182/in-fluence/th_DSCF0747.jpg (http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z182/in-fluence/?action=view&current=DSCF0747.jpg)http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z182/in-fluence/th_DSCF0744.jpg (http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z182/in-fluence/?action=view&current=DSCF0744.jpg)

And the results:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z182/in-fluence/5770930-1385.jpg

As a result, the heatsink didn't really allow me to push much more out of the core, and the memory o/c improved a little, but if this card is going any further, I think it'll need some more volts. It obliterates my 8600GTs, and with me not being much of a gamer, it'll be all I need for a while (although I hear these cards x-fire really well). Idle temps are as low as 35°C in a closed case which is quite a big improvement (used to be ~45°C). Load temps decreased by about 6-7°C.

The one thing that got my attention was the small component underneath a part of the long ramsink section which was covered with either heat paste, or an insulating material. I assume it needs cooling as it looks as though the meatsink was designed to come into contact with it. Can anyone confirm what it is? It's too small to easily put any custom cooling onto.

[SonDa5]

The one thing that got my attention was the small component underneath a part of the long ramsink section which was covered with either heat paste, or an insulating material. I assume it needs cooling as it looks as though the meatsink was designed to come into contact with it. Can anyone confirm what it is? It's too small to easily put any custom cooling onto.


Not sure what that would be. Photo?

[In-Fluence]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z182/in-fluence/th_DSCF0750.jpg (http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z182/in-fluence/?action=view&current=DSCF0750.jpg)

The little white dot on the left is where I'm talking about. It definitely comes into contact with a component, and it's clearly made for that purpose, so I'm a little baffled. I can't really get my card out atm, so not able to give a pic of the actual component. Seems to be running fine, but I'm growing wary...


As a result of installing the HR-03 I managed to get 1GHz out of the core...
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z182/in-fluence/57701000-1350.jpg
Just about stable at 1.25v, and only a smidge away from 20K :D

[generics_user]

i just ogt my arctic cooling L2 PRO as there was no way to fit the twin turbo into my V350 (you can cut off the fins on the left hand sight and bend the heatpipe forward but the chip has been moved too far to the top edge so no huge cooler for me

the L2 does a great job and keeps my 5770 @ 60°C under load with 20% fan speed

pics of my setup will follow this weekend along with some overclocking (i'll remove my x-fi for this as it sits right above the gddr5 memory; mATX is a PITA to work with but i need a movable box :(

[pr@$r1g]

^^^ post pics of ur card with some furmark ,so that how L2 pro works .I have also ordered L2 for my 5770.

[Migi06]

Here's the first review I've seen which directly compares the V1 and V2 cards. I've no idea how reputable the review site is but it seems sensible enough, if a little badly translated.

Full review here. (http://en.expreview.com/2009/12/04/radeon-hd-5770-first-second-edition-performance-comparison/6015.html)

Many sites are saying the same. ReverendMaynard test doesnt show anything. 100% fan test pretty much useless (more like which fan does spin faster), expect if you really want noise rig.
They are very different coolers and better efficiency cooler are also silencer(if fan isn't :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up). If you are intelligent you can even know why v2 could be better.

[ReverendMaynard]

I use high fan speed because I want to get the most out of the cooling. The V2 was crap, and it's gone because it died. If that's better, then awesome for all of those sheep that believe reviewers lol.

[Meaker]

Sapphire's hd 5770 vapor-X is now available in the UK.

[Touche Turtle]

I use high fan speed because I want to get the most out of the cooling. The V2 was crap, and it's gone because it died. If that's better, then awesome for all of those sheep that believe reviewers lol.

Your V2 is the hottest I've read about. Everyone elses (including my own) run much, much cooler than yours did. It must have either been faulty or something went wrong when you were playing around with the heatsink/TIM. This is also backed-up by the fact that it's now dead.

Here's how a fully functioning V2 should perform - I ran a 100% fan test for a giggle, GPU @ 1GHz, temps taken after running through the 3DM06 Demo:

Max temp 45 degrees. :)

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4741/100pcfan.jpg

[pvhk]

My HD5770 V1 xfire does not run to hot on my JR P45 with 2 very close pcie slot:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6767/22264copier.jpg
56°C for the upper card & 52° for the lower fan@80%

[Theorw]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z182/in-fluence/th_DSCF0750.jpg (http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z182/in-fluence/?action=view&current=DSCF0750.jpg)



I know what u are talking about...Yes it needs cooling this little chip man!along with the two in the end of the card,that used to have air flowing through holes of the main blower..Cool them too!

[In-Fluence]

Thanks for your reply, seems like I'm gonna have to hunt around for something suitable. It's a bit of a b*tch tbh, I don't know of anything small enough to help cool that whilst running my HR-03 on it. Annoying thing is, thermalright's site says it's compatible (without the need to buy extra bits). Luckily I haven't put much more than 1.25v into it, so I doubt I've pushed it too far, but not having that component cooled is a concern.
I'm acutally tempted to put the stock sink back on, and put the HR-03 back on my 8600GTs and use it as a physx card, but I doubt it would make a huge difference, nor do I like the idea of having ATI and Nvidia drivers on the same system :lol:

SonDa5 - I see you've got a HR-03 on yours too - did you find anything to cool that little component I'm talking about?

[generics_user]

Thanks for your reply, seems like I'm gonna have to hunt around for something suitable. It's a bit of a b*tch tbh, I don't know of anything small enough to help cool that whilst running my HR-03 on it. Annoying thing is, thermalright's site says it's compatible (without the need to buy extra bits). Luckily I haven't put much more than 1.25v into it, so I doubt I've pushed it too far, but not having that component cooled is a concern.
I'm acutally tempted to put the stock sink back on, and put the HR-03 back on my 8600GTs and use it as a physx card, but I doubt it would make a huge difference, nor do I like the idea of having ATI and Nvidia drivers on the same system :lol:

SonDa5 - I see you've got a HR-03 on yours too - did you find anything to cool that little component I'm talking about?

5770 VRM design is overkill (that's why manufacturers are switching to custom pcbs...)

i have no issues without any cooling on these digital vrms + ram with my small POS accelero L2 (this is on stock)

a small fan directed onto these chips should be more than enough :up:

[bran]

My V2 gets ~65 degrees during Furmark with fan @ 40%, card is running @ 960/1325 with 1.225V. This is in a Antec 900 chassi with Noctua P12/S12 fans, and top fan @ medium.

[In-Fluence]

5770 VRM design is overkill (that's why manufacturers are switching to custom pcbs...)

i have no issues without any cooling on these digital vrms + ram with my small POS accelero L2 (this is on stock)

a small fan directed onto these chips should be more than enough :up:

I'm afraid it's not the VRM's or that area we're talking about. There's a tiny part about 1/3 of the way along the flat edge of the card which is covered in TIM from the stock heatsink (like I tried to illustrate). I haven't really tried to identify it, but it has a shiny surface, like glass. I can't think of anything small enough to cool it easily barring a bit of tin foil glued onto it!

[jooelhoglund]

I wonder which cooler is best

http://i50.tinypic.com/2qls4ft.jpg

or

http://i49.tinypic.com/210f7lt.jpg

The second card have bigger fan and heatsink and the first one right ? but it doesn't blow out the air out of the case like the first card

I really want a test there these two card coolers beeing tested , someone have a test ?

So which should i choose ?

If not se the pictures

http://www.techspot.com/review/209-ati-radeon-hd-5770/

http://shopper.cnet.com/graphics-cards/asus-eah5770-2dis-1gd5/4014-8902_9-33877182.html?&info=review#info-1

Thanks very much !

[Touche Turtle]

I wonder which cooler is best

http://i50.tinypic.com/2qls4ft.jpg

or

http://i49.tinypic.com/210f7lt.jpg

The second card have bigger fan and heatsink and the first one right ? but it doesn't blow out the air out of the case like the first card

I really want a test there these two card coolers beeing tested , someone have a test ?

So which should i choose ?

If not se the pictures

http://www.techspot.com/review/209-ati-radeon-hd-5770/

http://shopper.cnet.com/graphics-cards/asus-eah5770-2dis-1gd5/4014-8902_9-33877182.html?&info=review#info-1

Thanks very much !

Have a read through this thread to see the evidence and read the debate. Although both coolers are great, I think it's fairly safe to say that with one or two exceptions, the V2 cooler performs better despite being cheaper to produce.

Both coolers do a good enough job though so it's not worth worrying about really.

[FireDragon]

i have never seen temps over 75 deg on V1 cooler Asus5770 VT, that is with about 85% fan speed, custom fan speed setup in afterburner, that is at 1440mem and 1005Mhz on the core 1.25 volts on the core also, but i have it so at about 76 ish it canstart scaling up to 100% just have never had it even on Furmark, about 19-20deg C ambient

Dragon

[pvhk]

no heat issue with V1 cooler xfire @1035/1275 vgpu@1.274v
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb261/pvhk/p14393.jpg

[Insanity]

Just got my Sapphire 5770 V2 but looks like I've got a little problem.

At load, my temps seems normal (as per the graphs on the previous page), with 78°.

But my card is idling at 400/1200 instead of 157/300 and I get 57° in this state.

I'm using the latest catalyst from AMD (9.11).

Any idea on why my 2d clocks are wrong?

[ReverendMaynard]

Just got my Sapphire 5770 V2 but looks like I've got a little problem.

At load, my temps seems normal (as per the graphs on the previous page), with 78°.

But my card is idling at 400/1200 instead of 157/300 and I get 57° in this state.

I'm using the latest catalyst from AMD (9.11).

Any idea on why my 2d clocks are wrong?

set up a profile in CCC and open up the config file it produces and check that.

[Insanity]

set up a profile in CCC and open up the config file it produces and check that.

Well, looking at the CCC profile, it looks like the 157/300 profile is mentioned, but my card never drops in that state.


<Feature name="CoreClockTarget_0">
<Property name="Want_0" value="15700" />
<Property name="Want_1" value="60000" />
<Property name="Want_2" value="85000" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="MemoryClockTarget_0">
<Property name="Want_0" value="30000" />
<Property name="Want_1" value="120000" />
<Property name="Want_2" value="120000" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="CoreVoltageTarget_0">
<Property name="Want_0" value="950" />
<Property name="Want_1" value="1000" />
<Property name="Want_2" value="1125" />
</Feature>

Another weird fact : the clock the card is when idling (400) does not even show up in this profile.

Concerning the memory clock, it seems it's working alright now, running at 300 idle since I flashed to the Asus unlocked bios I found here. But the core clock still doesn't want to go down.

[ReverendMaynard]

Well, looking at the CCC profile, it looks like the 157/300 profile is mentioned, but my card never drops in that state.



Another weird fact : the clock the card is when idling (400) does not even show up in this profile.

Concerning the memory clock, it seems it's working alright now, running at 300 idle since I flashed to the Asus unlocked bios I found here. But the core clock still doesn't want to go down.

Ahh, you flashed it. Different story. That ASUS bios probably has the 400 gpu clock set to keep the cards from freezing/artifacting like most of the stock bios do. Very popular issue on the Ati forums.

[Insanity]

Ahh, you flashed it. Different story. That ASUS bios probably has the 400 gpu clock set to keep the cards from freezing/artifacting like most of the stock bios do. Very popular issue on the Ati forums.

Nop, not the problem. Looked at the original sapphire and the asus unlocked bios with RBE, both have the exact same clock/voltage settings.

Right now, when idling my card choses the Clock info 04 (400/1200/0,95V) instead of what is Clock info 01 (157/300/0,95V).

I just can't grasp where the problem is.

[ReverendMaynard]

Nop, not the problem. Looked at the original sapphire and the asus unlocked bios with RBE, both have the exact same clock/voltage settings.

Right now, when idling my card choses the Clock info 04 (400/1200/0,95V) instead of what is Clock info 01 (157/300/0,95V).

I just can't grasp where the problem is.

try different drivers I guess. If you're using Win 7/ Vista try turning aero off? It's a tough one to trouble shoot.

[Meaker]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1692683

You should grab the leaked 9.12s from sapphire.

Thats at 1000/1350 with a 16x/4x crossfire setup.

[FireDragon]

IMO let the temp b higher on idle, it will better for you, i think half of the problems with these cards r the insanely low 2d clocks to try to squeeze every last drop of power efficiency out of them, and maybe at 400 core it wont jump back and forth between 2d/and 3d clocks because the 2d clock is throttled so much....sometimes /most of the time mine would jump to 3d clocks for scrolling a web page, lol

Dragon

[Insanity]

IMO let the temp b higher on idle, it will better for you, i think half of the problems with these cards r the insanely low 2d clocks to try to squeeze every last drop of power efficiency out of them, and maybe at 400 core it wont jump back and forth between 2d/and 3d clocks because the 2d clock is throttled so much....sometimes /most of the time mine would jump to 3d clocks for scrolling a web page, lol

Dragon

Well, sure I'm not really worried about power consumption...But what could worries me a bit is the 50/55° idle temps. Isn't it a bit high?

[ReverendMaynard]

Well, sure I'm not really worried about power consumption...But what could worries me a bit is the 50/55° idle temps. Isn't it a bit high?

even ramped up to 1000/1400 mine idles around 20C cooler than yours. What's the heat situation in your case like?

[Insanity]

even ramped up to 1000/1400 mine idles around 20C cooler than yours. What's the heat situation in your case like?

The case is a CM Stacker 830, so not a closed case by any mean. Ambiant temps in the room are a bit high (around 25° I think).

In the case I've got a 965be cooled by a Corsair H50, rad mounted on the rear of the case with 2 120mm in push/pull on it, blowing toward the inside of the case (like Corsair says to do for the H50, even though I know having those in extraction would be better for inside temps).
Got a 120mm at the top of the case for extracting hot air.

I think my problem may be due to PCI/PCIe placement. On my MB (asus crosshair III), there is only one PCI slot. My X-fi is plugged on it. The problem is that it is right between the two PCIe x16 slot. If I put my 5770 on the top slot, its fan is basically at 0,5cm from the soundcard, and if I put it on the lower slot, it's the back of the card that almost touch the X-Fi. :/

On the top slot I get around 60° idle temp, 50/55° on the lower slot.

Maybe I should change for a PCIe soundcard, but then again, slots layout sucks on this MB. If I want to crossfire, all the PCIe x1 slots are unusable, only the pci slot... And if I want to crossfire with a PCI soundcard, it will basically be sandwiched between to heaters. ;p

[ReverendMaynard]

this is a Rev 2 card right? Could put a spot fan so it's blowing into the side of the heatsink on the card, facing towards the back of the case...and out? Also, That H50 design is pants, I'd go against Corsair's recommendation and have it blowing out of the case just to get that extra heat out.

[Insanity]

this is a Rev 2 card right? Could put a spot fan so it's blowing into the side of the heatsink on the card, facing towards the back of the case...and out? Also, That H50 design is pants, I'd go against Corsair's recommendation and have it blowing out of the case just to get that extra heat out.

Yup, Rev2.

I'll change the fans direction on the rad tomorrow, I need to change the thermal paste anyway.

Noticed that my NB and SB are around 50° also.

[ReverendMaynard]

Yup, Rev2.

I'll change the fans direction on the rad tomorrow, I need to change the thermal paste anyway.

Noticed that my NB and SB are around 50° also.

Sounds like you have an airflow issue. Get that fresh air coming in from the front, moving across the board and slot areas and your temps should improve. Should be like a wind tunnel in there.

[stangracin3]

woot
5770 on the way

will be replacing 2 4850 512's. need the extra vram for a certain xmas present i accidentally saw.

[SonDa5]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1692683

You should grab the leaked 9.12s from sapphire.

Thats at 1000/1350 with a 16x/4x crossfire setup.



Looks much better. :up:

I'm going to install the 9.12 drivers later on.

Any noticeable differences with operating temps?

[Meaker]

Temps are the same on the first card, higher on the second. How about this for a score:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1697343

1000/1400 with a proper MB.

[Frodin]

Just got my Sapphire 5770 V2 but looks like I've got a little problem.

At load, my temps seems normal (as per the graphs on the previous page), with 78°.

But my card is idling at 400/1200 instead of 157/300 and I get 57° in this state.

I'm using the latest catalyst from AMD (9.11).

Any idea on why my 2d clocks are wrong?

How many monitors do you have connected? It seems these cards (the 5850 at least) use different (higher) idle clocks if you have more than one monitor, here is a thread on the subject. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=237580) Notice post #6 and down. It seems like it is fixed by overclocking even a single MHz. Ati:rolleyes:

[pvhk]

cata 9.12 are fine!
huge gpu score improvement
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3560/p15128copier.jpg

[Insanity]

How many monitors do you have connected? It seems these cards (the 5850 at least) use different (higher) idle clocks if you have more than one monitor, here is a thread on the subject. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=237580) Notice post #6 and down. It seems like it is fixed by overclocking even a single MHz. Ati:rolleyes:

Ha! Thank you!!! You solved it! I had two monitors and it was the problem. I bumped the frequencies just a little bit in CCC and now I have proper idle speed.

But now my second monitor sometimes flicker weirdly when it refreshes. But it's still better.

[Cheeseball]

Question guys, with the HD 5770 V2, are you able to read the RPM of the fan like the V1s?

[Frodin]

Ha! Thank you!!! You solved it! I had two monitors and it was the problem. I bumped the frequencies just a little bit in CCC and now I have proper idle speed.

But now my second monitor sometimes flicker weirdly when it refreshes. But it's still better.

Glad you fixed it, sort of. lol:D Fix one thing and in the same turn introduce another bug, sigh.

[snoro]

but i am starting to think that the v1 cooler is enough for the core but the mem is getting a bit too hot. Sadly i dont have the proper tool to verify this. Does anyone tried to put some zalmann or enzotech vga mem heatsink on their hd5770 with the reference cooler ?if it cant be done, i think i will look for a aftermarket cooler.

[Zeus]

Nobody here watercooling his 5770? I ordered two and two EK fullcoverblocks, hopefully i can post results next week. :)

[pr@$r1g]

^^^ Waiting for ur results with some pics of ur 5770 water cooled :up:

[pr@$r1g]

Here is my cooling to EXT for my HD5770

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1151/1001309y.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5011/1001312j.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7261/1001314m.jpg

the idle temps are 35`c & load 50`c ambient 14`c case closed :)

[Zeus]

Here is my cooling solution, haven't got the cards yet :(:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/computer/IMG_6594.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/computer/IMG_6592.jpg

More when i've got the cards. :)

[snoro]

@ pr@$r1g
do this new cooling gave you more overclocking possibility or you cant still run nit higher than with the stock cooling.

[Sorrow13]

I've got a somewhat related question.
I've seen a few mods for the 'egg' and i have a v1 inbound(bought used from a forum). Are there any V1 mods that reduce temps? I'm gonna re-paste it either way.
Hooray cheap and powerful cards.

[tbone8ty]

cool the 5770 heatsink does have a heatpipe

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4239197524_6fb7acafed_b.jpg

nipple:D haha jk

[pr@$r1g]

^^^ buddy its not heat-pipe its some kind of vapour chamber ..

@snoro
Im just testing how much more i could get with & till now i have reached to 1052 only with 1.25v...................temps reach 65 max @ that clocks..

[tbone8ty]

^^^ buddy its not heat-pipe its some kind of vapour chamber ..



even better :up:

[tbone8ty]

I've got a somewhat related question.
I've seen a few mods for the 'egg' and i have a v1 inbound(bought used from a forum). Are there any V1 mods that reduce temps? I'm gonna re-paste it either way.
Hooray cheap and powerful cards.

only thing i can say is re-paste the gpu...was also debating whether or not to trim the plastic shrouds, for less air turbulence, not sure if that will help.

also maybe cut out the back grill some, i started to outline it...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2796/4239867852_8fd2bc7c48_b.jpg

[Blacky]

How about Vapor- X saphire model?

[mattlef]

Anyone try the Xigmatek BiFrost yet? I think it might, just fit....
I'm also wondering if it'll do the trick passively....

[snoro]

i think you ill have to be the guinea pig on that one mattlef to see if it work.

[OnLine]

This cooler will fit on a HD5770;

http://i48.tinypic.com/72tzy0.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/ny5w5e.jpg


http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/product_page/vga/v2/product_vga_cooler_v2.htm


... and Scythe Setsugen should also fit (not 100% sure);

http://i46.tinypic.com/23sapl.jpg

They both seem to perform great! :D

Which one would You choose, Scythe Setsugen is ~$10 more expensive but comes with a low profile fan?!! :confused:

[snoro]

the setsugen dosent work, its clearly stated on the scythe european website in red. The thermalright v2 could give nice croe temp but the mem and the vrm will get not alot of cooling.

update, i got my zlaman and enzotech low profgile heatsink and i installed them on my card. They are working very nicely. I put the zalman on the vrm and the enzotech on the back side memory chip. I can push it a little more on the core. Was able to get a 1090 run in vantage but my card cant do mmore with stock cooler and 1.35v, For memory i need a bit more to to tweak a bit and see if i can get 1400+ mem working with 1075+ core in vantage. ATleast with those heatsink i can now do 24/7 gaming at 1050/1350.

[pr@$r1g]

here are my temps with AC L2 Pro fan mod @ xtreme load (Furmark 1.7.0 xtreme burning mode)

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3042/061ll.jpg

core @ 1.275v

Idle

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8991/0612q.jpg

[OnLine]

Alright, think I'll stick with my custom cut Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 cooler until something better comes out for this card!

http://i47.tinypic.com/140i3rt.jpg

Stock speed @ 1V:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2hf83zs.jpg

;)

[OnLine]

here are my temps with AC L2 Pro fan mod @ xtreme load (Furmark 1.7.0 xtreme burning mode)

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3042/061ll.jpg

core @ 1.275v

Idle

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8991/0612q.jpg

Nice OC! :D

snoro; Setsugen won't fit I see, nice HD5770 OC yours too! :D

[snoro]

Thanks sadly, yesterday i played for quite a while ( gtaIV + anno 1404 is for sure alot of fun to play and take alot of time) After about 8 hour on non-stop playing i had a crash that was caused by the memory. I think to use high core speed in 24/7 we will have to play with mem at about 1250 to run core at 1050+ for 24/7. For overclocking i will try out today if i can use more than 1350 memory with 1090 corer for a vanatage run without crashing badly.

[tbone8ty]

check out my red LED "cooling" mod haha

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2680/4255453044_24bccb3dc0.jpg

[JoeBar]

Pretty nice... :)

[pr@$r1g]

^^^ that's a batman's car with head lights & indicators on :D..................... pretty cool man .............

[Mastiffman]

In response the Sapphire VAPOR-X Card question......

I have one and it's pretty nice.. That first furmark test was a screen shot pasted into Paint to show that it was a clear in test screen. Thta's why Afterburner shows "0" GPU Usage, so don't get confused...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2089/1051mhzcore1443mhzmem.gif

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4438/phenomiix4c396538ghz26n.jpg


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4438/phenomiix4c396538ghz26n.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4438/phenomiix4c396538ghz26n.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7249/1105mhzcore1425mhzmem.gif

[jaredpace]

found this cooling on a 5850 :rofl::

true black & 120mm

http://i46.tinypic.com/axern.jpg

[purplehaze]

found this cooling on a 5850 :rofl::

true black & 120mm

http://i46.tinypic.com/axern.jpg

holy crap batman that could cool a ferrari engine.

[pr@$r1g]

:eek:

found this cooling on a 5850 :rofl::

true black & 120mm

http://i46.tinypic.com/axern.jpg

is it a cpu or gpu to be cooled extremely :rofl:

[purplehaze]

Here is photo of single HD5770 with TR HR-03 rev. A.

http://minidriven.com/GreenMachine/HD5770withTRHR-03.jpg

I have 2 HD5770s. I have been running a single HD5770 with the TR HR-03 (rev. A) for over a week now. Just seeing how it runs with the TR HR-03 (rev. A) without a fan. Seems to work very well and I'll put the other HD5770 with same heat sink together soon.


what is the setup with the fins and fan by the memory. My ballistix tracers are running hot as hell and i need a cheap and quick advice to cool them. I'm contemplating overclocking again since its been a while after my badaxe 2 mobo died and rma'd and the tracers have been fried twice and rma'd.

[tbone8ty]

installed some enzotech ramsinks.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4305853014_d39bf4a41a_b.jpg

[snoro]

I think this mod should be done for everycard that dosent have a backplate, t really do help in memory overclocking. It did let me go to 1470mem instead of 1450 max normally without the heatsink which is not a bad gain if you think about it that you just have put some heatsink on memory chip.

[BigBadBoogie]

Here is photo of single HD5770 with TR HR-03 rev. A.
I have 2 HD5770s. I have been running a single HD5770 with the TR HR-03 (rev. A) for over a week now. Just seeing how it runs with the TR HR-03 (rev. A) without a fan. Seems to work very well and I'll put the other HD5770 with same heat sink together soon.

Hi SonDa5, or anyone else who has a TR HR-03 rev. A

I wonder if someone could take a meassure from the upper (or lower) mounting holes to the top of the heatpipes, as displayed in below picture.
http://i53.tinypic.com/5aq9oz.jpg


I Wonder because I I am not sure it will fit in my HTPC-case (Silverstone GD01MX) since I only have roughly 135mm from the top of my PCI-E slot to the "roof-top" of the case.
I know its 133mm high, but it looks as though the heat pipes allmost touches the PCI-E slot on most installs so I thought it was worth asking.
If I can have the meassure I can meassure from the holes of my current HD5770 card to the top of the case (which is 65mm) and see if it will fit :)


Oh, a pic of the rig
http://i53.tinypic.com/faobdl.jpg
Goal is a quiet HTPC that also serves for ocasional gaming...some racing wheel setups, friends and "some" beer => Legal drink-n-drive
http://i53.tinypic.com/14c8tc5.gif

Thanks
Boogie

[MadHacker]

Powercolor 5770 Eyefinity 5 with custom watercooling
http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/39204/2844673480106201080S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2844673480106201080EDfEEm)
running at stock, my Temps 59Deg Max
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5739/gpuc.jpg

edit:
it hits 69deg using OCCP GPU test after 5 minutes

[SonDa5]

what is the setup with the fins and fan by the memory. My ballistix tracers are running hot as hell and i need a cheap and quick advice to cool them. I'm contemplating overclocking again since its been a while after my badaxe 2 mobo died and rma'd and the tracers have been fried twice and rma'd.


That is a Thermal Right chip set cooler pointed towards the ram with a fan strapped to it sideways by stripped 12 gage solid copper wire. Just a quick set up to cool ram and chip set heat sink.

[SonDa5]

Big Bad Boogie I measured 3 inches

[BigBadBoogie]

Big Bad Boogie I measured 3 inches

Thank you :up:
but
I only have 2.56 inches of space :mad:

1. Was 3 inches the meassurement from the upper mounting holes in the bracket (not the lower ones, as the alternative in the text?)

2. Was it 3 inches exactly or maybe a little less? [crossing fingers]

3. Is it possible to adjust the height of the cooler versus the base, as in the picture below? A.k.a. slide the heatpipes up/down in the base
108972


Hmmm, I wonder if it can be mounted with an offset somehow to fit it :shrug:
I really want to make it fit, since it would hush my PC with the component that makes the most noise

[SonDa5]

Thank you :up:
but
I only have 2.56 inches of space :mad:

1. Was 3 inches the meassurement from the upper mounting holes in the bracket (not the lower ones, as the alternative in the text?)

2. Was it 3 inches exactly or maybe a little less? [crossing fingers]

3. Is it possible to adjust the height of the cooler versus the base, as in the picture below? A.k.a. slide the heatpipes up/down in the base



1.The measurement was right on from the locations you requested to be measured. (center of mounting holes to the outside of the bends of the cooling pipes)

2. 3" exactly.

3. No adjustment available.

Sorry but I don't think it will clear your case. Maby be possible to cut a hole in your case to let the pipe bends hang out.... :D Might look cool if done right. :cool:

[BigBadBoogie]

1.The measurement was right on from the locations you requested to be measured. (center of mounting holes to the outside of the bends of the cooling pipes)

2. 3" exactly.

3. No adjustment available.

Sorry but I don't think it will clear your case. Maby be possible to cut a hole in your case to let the pipe bends hang out.... :D Might look cool if done right. :cool:

Darn...
Thank you very much for the help - deeply apreciated :toast:
Yeah, a hole could cut it but it doesnt look as good in the home cinecma shelf as on the pc shelf :)

Regards
Boogieman

[BigBadBoogie]

1.The measurement was right on from the locations you requested to be measured. (center of mounting holes to the outside of the bends of the cooling pipes)

2. 3" exactly.

3. No adjustment available.

Sorry but I don't think it will clear your case. Maby be possible to cut a hole in your case to let the pipe bends hang out.... :D Might look cool if done right. :cool:

My HR-03 rev.a has arrived and has been modded.
I desoldered the heat sink and moved it so that the pipes did not stick up that far. Was afraid that I would blow the pipes when i used the blowtorch but it went ok (protected everything but the heat sink with several layers of alu foil to minimize risk of "cooking" the pipes.

I resolered the sink and added som solder (normal soler tin for circuit boards) and put everything together.

Started furmark and BOOM...the temp flew up to 95 degrees...couldnt be right so i reinstalled it with more thermal paste and now i have better temps but far from great.

The pipes certainly seems to work because the alu fins get hot as h..ll.
I hade to install a 92mm noctua fan at 1800 rpm and now i got the following pretty crappy results.

Idle temp 40 deg c
Load (furmark xtreme burning) 77 deg c after 30-60 min

Thats worse temps than with the stock vaporX cooler?
What could be wrong?
- I am thinking of removing one of the low profile RAM heat sinks since it seems as though one heat pipes rests on it (maybe I dont have a good contact with the heat sink base of the hr-03 due to this?)
- Maybe í have to turn the airflow from the cpu cooler (see pic below for airflows) since it blasts the hot air to the cooling fan for the GPU.
- Try a 3rd time with thermal paste (is the included TR paste any good?)

I really dont want a fan for the card i read that Sonad had no problems with temps without dedicated fan, so something must be wrong in my setup.

Any more ideas?

http://i53.tinypic.com/faobdl.jpg

[SonDa5]

Definitely something not right with your heat sink configuration.

Are your temps with stock voltage and clocks?


Did you run the TR heat sink before you modded it? If so what were the temps like?

[_geek_]

I know it's an old thread but since this thread is about 5770 CF temperature problem, I might as well hijack it . So the issue I was experiencing is that the shaders on the second GPU get a lot hotter than the shaders on the first GPU. So to put it into perspective let the pictures talk:

GPUs idle:
http://www.shrani.si/t/3m/g2/4FKZedHM/idle.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?3m/g2/4FKZedHM/idle.jpg)

GPUs 15min furmark stress test:
http://www.shrani.si/t/1B/xN/48yJLrDO/msi-afterburner.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?1B/xN/48yJLrDO/msi-afterburner.jpg)
http://www.shrani.si/t/39/mz/4yGhXchM/furmark-15min.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?39/mz/4yGhXchM/furmark-15min.jpg)

Rig setup:
http://www.shrani.si/t/k/1y/19q7HlfL/p3100005.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?k/1y/19q7HlfL/p3100005.jpg)

Components:
Antec 300 (4 fans - two 120mm fornt intake | one 140mm + one 120mm outake)
Rampage Formula
Sapphire 5770 CF V2 coolers - no OC
TRUE 120 on q6600@3.6GHz
Corsair XMS2 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz (5-5-5-15)
Corsair TX 750W
Ambient room temp 22°C
All the coolers were dusted off before testing


I know that the second GPU is starved of cold air by the PSU fan but my question would be if anyone know where is this shader temp sensor located or which part of the graphics card should be cooled additionally for the upcoming summer. Cause other than that the temps of the GPUs are almost shocking identical...


After some research I think I have uncovered that the there are two components that haven't got additional cooling on the V2 revision cooler:

http://www.shrani.si/t/3q/Ci/2zXeN0g3/sapphire-5770-cooler1.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?3q/Ci/2zXeN0g3/sapphire-5770-cooler1.jpg)

... or is this just an clearance issue? Cause the V2 cooler basically cools just the GPU more or less :confused:

Can anyone explain me what these two components are ?

Here's a close up:
http://www.shrani.si/t/1p/91/2wTTC14w/frontfull1.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?1p/91/2wTTC14w/frontfull1.jpg)

[BigBadBoogie]

Definitely something not right with your heat sink configuration.

Are your temps with stock voltage and clocks?


Did you run the TR heat sink before you modded it? If so what were the temps like?

No, I never ran it before mod.
I have now remodded it just to make sure that the heat is transfered as perfect as possible.

So my steps were:
1. Solder apart the two parts again - the attatchment shows the first time i desoldered it = how it was soldered from TR = Solder missing on >50% of the area.
113442

2. Mill down the surface of the contact area to mirror finish and 100% straightness (just in case it would have bent during heating) - used the milling machine at work. Also used sanding paper to sand off the coating layer and reveal the solid copper surface on the pipes and the inside of the two halves (the one that i couldnt mill). Copper vs copper beats most materials and having an additional layer normally never makes sense...unless it is gold or something extremely conductive. I also had to mill down some of the ridges on the "inside" of the halves, since when it put them together with the pipes in between, the middle ridges rested on each other but the outher ones never made contact. This is probably the reason why the originally solder solution never get 100% contact with the solder especially on the outher parts of the cooler.
113447


3. Milled down the allready "superlow profile memory coolers" about 1mm (and to mirror finish)
113443
just to make sure they dont rest on the heat pipes and prevent the cooler from settling totaly on the GPU
like so when done ->
113444


4. Remove the thermal tape on all memory coolers

5. Fasten all memory coolers with an extremely thin layer of zalman thermal glue (but enough to get full contact all over)

6. Inside the two parts clamping around the heat pipes for the GPU cooler, I added some high grade MX-2 thermal gunk and made sure they made full contact with the heat pipes. On the outer parts of the inner surfaces of the halves i used zalman thermal glue to "keep the parts glued together" and then i pressed them together....for a long while :)

7. Put it in the PC and fired up - no O.C. at all
Without extra cooling fan - 90-95 degrees and crash
With extra noctua cooling fan at max - 70 something degrees and ok

I start to guess that my airflow through the box is the problem. The cooling fins get HOT AS HELL when i run the furmark torture test, so for sure heat is transfering, but it seems it cant disipate in the air fast enough, so id better fix the airflow instead of fiddling more with the cooler - i think that now it is most like better than original :-) Even though guiding the air like this it got too hot. Ok it takes the hot CPU air and the intake from the fron is very small...hmmm probably need to do something radical unless I should turn the cooler around and loose a PCI-E slot....NO WAY :mad:
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I had to remove a small part of the top bar of the case to make the cooler fit - but now it snugs in JUST BELOW the case top when i slide it on :)
Orignally I would have had to cut a hole in the lid as well, so i am satisfied with the fit. Now i just needs high airflow with no noise....and I allready got the last part.
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Regards
Boogieman

[BigBadBoogie]

After some research I think I have uncovered that the there are two components that haven't got additional cooling on the V2 revision cooler:

http://www.shrani.si/t/3q/Ci/2zXeN0g3/sapphire-5770-cooler1.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?3q/Ci/2zXeN0g3/sapphire-5770-cooler1.jpg)

... or is this just an clearance issue? Cause the V2 cooler basically cools just the GPU more or less :confused:

Can anyone explain me what these two components are ?

Here's a close up:
http://www.shrani.si/t/1p/91/2wTTC14w/frontfull1.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?1p/91/2wTTC14w/frontfull1.jpg)

I think it is a clearance thing.
The back of my vapor-x cooler did not have any thermal guck nor any cutouts, so it beats me. Could for some other GPU maybe that needs cooling on a component right there. I mean it fits more than the HD5770 card :)
See the rear of my cooler after detatchement.
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About the shaders - if you have a vapor-X card you know that the shaders are locked on some earli FW revisions. Some people needed to update the FW to unlock all shaders. This could explain why one card is hotter (all 800 shaders unlocked) and the other not (only 720 shaders unlocked). Make a check in GPU-Z just to be sure :)

REgards boogieman

[_geek_]

Thanks for the reply BigBadBoogie :) . So then, I checked both GPUs with GPU-Z and both have the whole 800 shaders unlocked so that's a dead end. Althow I will swap positions with the GPUs just to check that none of them ain't either super cool or super hot ;) Any other suggestions to the whereabouts of the illusive shaders :)

http://www.shrani.si/t/3/8r/4WbLo1Rw/gpu1-vs-gpu2.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?3/8r/4WbLo1Rw/gpu1-vs-gpu2.jpg)

[BigBadBoogie]

1. Here is some initial results on cooling with TR HR-03 (rev. A) heat sink. no fan on single HD5770.

2. My Antec 900 case does have a side fan blowing air onto the heat sink.

3. If anyone knows of a good 92mmx92mm25mm fan with 4 pin pwm connection for HD5770 please direct me to it. With a fan I think I can lower my temps even more.

1. 41 degress max temp - thats incredible. Which temp do you get if you run torture test without a fan? (i allways run torture test, could be why my temps are significantly higher)

2. Not even with a 90mm fulls speed noctua fan mounted direct onto HR-03RevA I get down to 41 degrees. If I remember right I stopped at 78 degrees without o.c.

3. I second that request. Either:
A. a transformer connector from 3-pin PMW to low profile 4-pin PMV (with last pin for constant power for LED..will be unused)
B. A fan with a low profile 4-pin connector so I can connect it directly to the GPU fan controller since speedfan can not read GPU-temp and hence i can not control a fan via mobo depending on GPU-temp.


Connector looks like this
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Regards
Boogieman

[BigBadBoogie]

After some research I think I have uncovered that the there are two components that haven't got additional cooling on the V2 revision cooler:

http://www.shrani.si/t/3q/Ci/2zXeN0g3/sapphire-5770-cooler1.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?3q/Ci/2zXeN0g3/sapphire-5770-cooler1.jpg)

... or is this just an clearance issue? Cause the V2 cooler basically cools just the GPU more or less :confused:

Can anyone explain me what these two components are ?

Here's a close up:
http://www.shrani.si/t/1p/91/2wTTC14w/frontfull1.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?1p/91/2wTTC14w/frontfull1.jpg)

Hi again.

NOTE! You mod your board on your own risk.
Of course adding coolers to additional components is risky since the cooler might come off and short circuit something in your PC.
This is just my reflections from data gathered from the web on which components that seems to generate a big amount of heat.


After reading your thought I made some reasearch and found this thread about heat imaging of HD5750 and HD5770 cards, which was interesting.
http://www.behardware.com/articles/775-4/report-amd-radeon-hd-5770-and-5750.html

Even though my Vapor-X cooler does not seem to cool those tiny components they certainly seem to heat up a lot - they seem to get as hot as the mems. The heat even goes through the mainboard and reflects heat on the back - unless it is the components on the other side of the card viewed below? Theyy actuall seem to match the heat signature better, so I dont know if they benefit from cooling as well? Its damn component tight there though.
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I made a comparison of my card vs the heat imaging from above link and came to some conclusions regarding hot components and which might need additional cooling.

Yellow = uncertain if it needs cooling
Hard to tell if the resistors needs cooling since normally reistors generate heat and it is kind of their function since they disipate unwanted energy through heat. Thus I dont think it will be beneficial to cool those.
The three square components next to the power stage I can not tell what they are - could be opto-couplers but I am not sure. Also hard to see if they generate heat since the heat imaging in that area is allready so
hot from power stages.
Red = proably benefits from cooling (i left out the CPU since it is obvious :rolleyes: and the mems i marked just for reference since the pictures are taking from different sides of the main board)

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Regards
Boogieman

[_geek_]

Preciate the infos BigBadBoogie :up:

So after swapping positions with the gpus, I've noticed that on one card the shaders were running substantially hotter than on the other, no matter where it was placed (upper or lower position). So just in case I went and changed the TIM on the gpu, cause I always thought that's where it should be located (the shader sensor). And voila succes. Temps dropped by 16°C on the shaders alone :shocked: Bad thermal contact I guess :shrug: anyway thanks for the help - preciated :)

[BigBadBoogie]

Preciate the infos BigBadBoogie :up:

So after swapping positions with the gpus, I've noticed that on one card the shaders were running substantially hotter than on the other, no matter where it was placed (upper or lower position). So just in case I went and changed the TIM on the gpu, cause I always thought that's where it should be located (the shader sensor). And voila succes. Temps dropped by 16°C on the shaders alone :shocked: Bad thermal contact I guess :shrug: anyway thanks for the help - preciated :)

No prob, want to cool my card better anyway, even though I dont think it will help to go for the small components until one starts to OC real bad.

Which software do you use to see the shader temp?
Not GPU-Z i guess? In GPU-Z i just get temp1,2 and 3 and those stay quite alike...no clue which is gpu or what the other 2 are but would be interesting to know :)

Boogie

[_geek_]

I used AIDA64 (http://www.aida64.com/) for temp monitoring ;)

[In-Fluence]

Couldn't help noticing some of you who've used the HR-03 on their 5770's. I did the same to two cards and they both had to go back for RMA. I had a suspicion it was to do with a small component near the xfire connectors as the original heatsink (ram plate) was moulded to come into contact with it. After my third card died (on which I didn't even remove the IHS) I started to suspect the board/card combo. Now I have a non-reference sappphire card (previous were XFX) which doesn't have the 'ram plate'. Runs a lot cooler with the stock heatsink, but I'm curious to know if this will run better with the HR-03. Snag is I have to lower it to the 2nd pci-e slot so it doesn't interfere with my loop..

[Irocing]

Hi,

Two XFX v1 and not the latest and greatest but handle anything out
and have for over a year.

Heatsinks and side case fan handle the cooling.
Heatsinks top card only as no room on 2nd card because of board spacing
in the 16x slots.

960/1375 at 1.20v and have never seen over 78c when Furmark or Kombuster
applied.

Best cards as to performance and longevity have had.
Going to hate to see them go but when 6990 price comes down a little,
One going in other halfs Dell to replace 4850 and sell other very cheap.

Back to one card and add to 600.5 loop.

Later.

[In-Fluence]

I'd be interested in a second 5770, but I'm not 100% if a non-reference and reference design card will play ball together. I can't see why not, can anyone confirm?

[BigBadBoogie]

Hi,
Later.

CM 690 II Advanced- #9 fans.


9 FANS :eek: but luckily it looks like a fan controller on the front.
But still, it must sound like a tornado is passing :) or?

For my HTPC
http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/products/gd01mx/GD01-MXB-3-4.jpg
I have 4 fans total (5 with PSU fan)
2 rear 80mm Noctuas case fans(controlled by SpeedFan + 50% speed resistor) - which i would love to replace with 1 bigger to remove the second worst noise source...but it just wont fit..at least not straight :)
1 CPU 92mm Noctua high pressure fan (controlled by SpeedFan) - which I also would prefer to have as 120mm to run at lower RPM and get a husher box, but no way that will work
1 GPU 92mm Noctua high pressure fan (not cotrolled :( ) - this bugger HAVE TO GO...I will not rest until then
(1 PSU 120mm fan (totally inaudiable))

The GPU one is the one I am fighting with to get rid off, since it is easily the loudest (you can bearly hear the HTPC due to that fan when little ambient sound at night with little traffic), but I cant seem to get the 5770 to run cool enough without the fan at full tilt when running furmark torture test, not even with the HR-03 cooler.

Incredible that I cant get the card to run cooler without fan but with HR-03 even unclocked :/ Not even fan at 50% speed is enough to keep torture test from crashing GPU...darn:shakes:

Boogie