ATI 5700 / 5800 problems thread [Archive]

Mungri

11-14-2009, 07:13 PM

Hi. I decided to create this thread due to a widely reported problem on the 5770s over at AMD game forums, that has also affected me.

The cards are fully stable and rock solid reliable in 3D mode and never have any crashes or problems while under heavy load.

However, in 2D mode, when they are downclocked to 157/300, some users including myself are having a problem where windows / internet / anything in 2D while running at 157/300 is crashing with a computer freeze and artifacts all over the screen.

About 25% of the time, the Catalyst driver manages to recover, but most of the time the PC needs to be restarted.

Yet under load at full speed and normal voltage, the cards have no problems at all, signifying that this cant be a hardware fault, but a powerplay / driver / 2D state problem.

RMAing the cards will only be a last case option, as I would like to keep the ones I have as they clock brilliantly and otherwise work fine.

If anyone else has this problem, or any other, then please report it here.

Glow9

11-14-2009, 08:00 PM

Whats with this 2d or 3d mode? w-t-f?

Mungri

11-14-2009, 08:15 PM

2D and 3D mode have existed for a very long time now. When the graphics cards are not running any 3D programs, they underclock into a lower clock state to use less power, also known as running in idle / 2D mode.

On ATI cards, this feature is called powerplay, but for some reason, a lot of 5770s are highly unstable when they enter into this idle mode.

Im not sure how to explain it any better then that, the 2D / 3D clock speed variances are a very well known and common feature in modern video cards, but the 5770 is having this problem when it downclocks itself into its idle mode resulting in PC freezing and artifacts.

oohms

11-14-2009, 08:58 PM

I have heard of these kind of issues with large screen resolutions. The solution seemed to be to increase 2D clocks until it stops.

The only issue i have with my 5770 is that its slow in some games eg shattered horizon, but i guess new drivers will fix it

Mungri

11-14-2009, 09:22 PM

Yea is there any software I can use to increase my 2D clocks?

I suppose putting the GPU up to 300 Mhz would be fine, but I can only set 3D clocks in MSI afterburner.

The only thing is that this completely destroys how little power these cards consume, but if it gets them working its not a problem.

BeepBeep2

11-14-2009, 10:05 PM

RBE and ATIFlash...actually, I dont know...RBE only supports WinFlash...

RBE:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1648/TechPowerUp_Radeon_Bios_Editor_v1.22.html

ATIFlash:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1650/ATIFlash_3.75.html

WinFlash:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1364/Winflash_2.0.1.7.html

You may be able to extract the BIOS with WinFlash and RBE, save it with RBE, then flash it with ATIFlash. I'm not really sure.

Voids your warranty though.

Mungri

11-14-2009, 10:14 PM

My warranty is already void, Asus bios flashed, but for now my PC has been on for an hour and no crashes, so I dont think altering the bios clocks is worth it.

I'd rather just wait untill ATI say something about the issue, and maybe see if a driver update fixes it, the crash doesnt happen too often.

I will contact ATI support.

OC Nub

11-14-2009, 10:38 PM

Haven't had any problems with crashing but the cards being stuck at 60hz refresh really didn't make me happy, some older games I still play run much better using a higher refresh rate and a crt monitor. So I now have 2x5870's back in the box sitting in the closet and they will stay there until the problem is fixed or if they aren't able to its back to the green team.

zshadow

11-14-2009, 11:48 PM

I am getting artifacts (small white dots) in most Source titles with my 5870. Weird thing is, it happens ONLY with regular 4xAA and 8xAA. Enabling 4xAA supersampling does not present the same issue, which makes me wonder if this is a driver issue rather than a defective card, since the latter is way more demanding.

It's most evident in the kitchen room in the L4D2 demo with the light off. When I turn the light back on the dots dissappear or are barely visible. It's not the film grain either, btw.

I wonder, could the clocks be at fault here too? Maybe L4D2 @ 8xAA is not pushing the card hard enough so it's throttling, causing artifacts. I really hate to RMA and get a worse card in the process.. it's working fine otherwise.

ReverendMaynard

11-15-2009, 05:33 AM

For the life of me, I cannot get the official 9.10's to install. Only the 9.10 beta's from the DVD work. I've tried express installing the lot, but the drivers will not install in XP or Vista. WTF?

pr@$r1g

11-15-2009, 06:30 AM

boldenc

11-15-2009, 08:30 AM

^^ why don't u install 9.11 beta ,im using 9.11beta

i haven't yet faced any problem ,but when i login or logout the screen flickers just before entering desktop after welcome screen & the screen flickers again when the desktop closes ........................
I think its a driver prob not hardware related ...................... :)

some one here in XS also reported this prob with 5850 !!! :

I have the same flickering, but it is much better now with 9.11, 9.10 made it stutter more. are you using windows 7 pro or ultimate?

Also I'm getting white dots on the dragon in unigine heaven in DX11 mode and happen on stock too, but in DX10 no white dots, so I think it is driver issue.

HD5850

pr@$r1g

11-15-2009, 09:04 AM

^^ its windows 7 ultimate , i haven't tested unigine heaven yet
will soon report ......................

Glow9

11-15-2009, 10:10 AM

Sounds like at certain reslutions when they are in this mode they aren't getting enough power? I dunno I remember some flakeyness with other hardware before. Did they release any new bios or what not for it?

Chickenfeed

11-15-2009, 08:56 PM

The HD5000 series uses 3 clock states. A 2d, low power 3d and 3d mode, each with their own core/memory speed and voltages. The first thing you need to always ask yourself is am I using more than 1 display. So far my experience with more than 1 display has been iffy with these cards ( I spent a fair bit of time messing with my friends 5770s / multi display setup ) and many threads across various forums seem to agree.

I've had no issues with my 5870 when using only 1 display but when I start using 2+, bizarre things start occurring. I had managed to force the card to use higher 2d clocks by editing a custom CCC oc profile but it isn't the most elegant solution. I'm hoping some revisions to powerplay occur via software in upcoming catalyst releases as they appear to be needed in many cases.

Mungri

11-15-2009, 11:20 PM

I am going to research into creating my own CCC profile with a higher low power 2D clock.

I have noticed that the crash is more likely to occur when either downloading, listening to music or watching a DVD / video file.

The cards are not in anyway faulty, it is just that the 157 Mhz 2D speed is far too low, I would assume that somewhere around 250 - 400 Mhz instead will fix the problem completely.

pr@$r1g

11-15-2009, 11:33 PM

^^^ it is not possible until u can be able to edit bios , bcos those clocks are set in bios & if u some how try to edit it will not work ........................

Mungri

11-16-2009, 12:41 AM

^^^ it is not possible until u can be able to edit bios , bcos those clocks are set in bios & if u some how try to edit it will not work ........................

Oh crud :(.

pr@$r1g

11-16-2009, 01:59 AM

^^^ sorry those words were not to hurt anyone ,but that's reality
If u can make that possible go ahead man :up: ,in any way im not stopping U :yepp:

SocketMan

11-16-2009, 02:15 AM

Try a different driver maybe.
Using the "cl" beta version - it's in the pic below.

It's most likely something with powerplay/driver as I've
seen both cards at 400/1200 and 157/300 at various times.
Using 2 displays with crossfire on (from the first card DVI + DVI with VGA adapter to the PC input on HDTV)atm

Mungri

11-16-2009, 05:01 AM

157 / 300 is low power 2D, and 400 / 1200 is low power 3D acceleration (Movies, DVD's, web browser / desktop animations).

Looking at that, the crash at 157 / 300 could be due to either the GPU or the Ram clock. Today my PC has been on for 5 hours and it hasnt crashed yet, so it isnt too frequent a problem.

etoo

11-16-2009, 08:55 AM

Hey guys,
The RBE 1.22 has a bug when saving a vendor, not leaving the Catalyst recognize the vga ...
In my Hd5870 works just the bios Asus and MSI unlocked ..
Anybody know how to solve this?
my vga is XFX ...

phsinc1

11-16-2009, 09:10 AM

etoo

11-16-2009, 09:35 AM

Better flash your bios with the official asus 5870 bios, it works for all 5870.

I wish I could use the official bios XFX...

cjbrown80

11-16-2009, 11:58 AM

I have two MSI 5870s and they were working beautifully with no OC last week. I was overjoyed as I had just achieved 32 hours of Prime95 stability with my i7 920 at 4gHz. This earned me a 24877 3dmarkV score with the GPUs in xfire. (Both GPU and CPU scores were just under 25k). This state of bliss lasted for about two days and then Friday morning I fired it up and ran another pass of 3dMarkVantage. At this point I noticed my GPU score slipped to around 23k. I shut it down, walked away for about 30 mins, came back fired it up and the GPU score was now just under 22k. Later that night I came back to it again, and on the first GPU test (Jane Nash) the water started glitching and turned into a giant wall of water basically, and frame rates dropped to around 20ish (from 80ish). I've since tried reinstalling 3Dmark, tried the 9.10, 9.10beta, and 9.11 catalyst drivers, and a slew of other little tweaks. Removing the entire cpu and ram overclock does nothing. The only thing that prevents the water from freaking out is if I disable crossfire (which then performs exactly like just having one 5870, or removing one of the cards entirely (In both cases the GPU score sits around 16k, which is exactly what each card by itself scored weeks before this problem occured). So to anyone with two or three of these 5870s in CFX- any similar problems showing up? Any ideas?
btw, I haven't even begun trying to OC these things, or tried installing a dedicated PhysX card yet (both were planned, derrrrr!)

Boulard83

11-16-2009, 12:13 PM

@cjbrown
Seems like a Driver issue or something ... If each card perform correctly when NON CFed.. I think it have something to do with your CF driver or hardware. Try reinstalling your MOBO drivers. Maybe ...

cjbrown80

11-16-2009, 06:57 PM

B83- Thanks for the opinion, however, that still doesn't explain the gradual decay in performance and the fact that I made absolutely no driver or software or OS changes as this decay was occuring. Tomorrow might be the day to do a fresh install of Win7 on an extra drive, load it up with EXACTLY what's on this current install on my SSDs, and see if it still exists. I'll reply with results.
On a side note: anyone have any ideas about me throwing a spare evga 8800gt(sc) in my third pciex slot as a dedicated PhysX burner. From what I've heard there exists a hack to re-enable the green drivers to work simultaneousy with the red drivers in Windows7. Suggestions? Is it worth a shot??

pvhk

11-16-2009, 10:56 PM

no hack necessary with forceware 185.68:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/p18148copier.jpg/1/w1100.png:)

In-Fluence

11-20-2009, 02:27 AM

woohoo! thanks for that pvhk, I'll have a spare 8600GTS once my 5770 arrives. Doubt it'll help a huge amount though!

freeloader

11-20-2009, 05:37 PM

I haven't had a single issue with my 5770 (Gigabyte) using the 9.11 CATS.

ReverendMaynard

11-21-2009, 06:47 AM

getting a display driver stop in Crossfire with the 9.11's. Gonna try the 12 beta's.

Mungri

11-21-2009, 08:22 AM

I havnt had any more of these crashes so far since installing 9.11 drivers. I had one system freeze, but without any artifacts which I believe happened because I tried reducing my CPU and QPI voltages from 1.3v to 1.275, further confirmed by windows giving me a 'System has revovered from a serious error' message which doesnt happen with the graphics card crash.

I have increased my CPU and QPI voltages back up to 1.3, and everything seems stable and fine now (180 BCLK, 3.78 Ghz cpu, 1800 Mhz ram, 5770's @ 1000 / 1445 = zero problems).

cjbrown80

11-22-2009, 10:00 AM

I can't seem to get these 5870s stable in Crossfire. I thought I had it for about a day, but then just when I think I've achieved stability, NOPE! Random re-boot and only one appears in device manager. WTF? This even occurs with no cpu or ram overclock @ stock volts. With just one card in, I had 920 @ 4gHz (20x200), ddr3 @ 1600mHz with volts cpu=1.4, qpi=1.44, dram=1.6, MSI Afterburner @ 1.225 V - 900/1300, and the 8800GT in as PhysX burner with 191.07+hack, blowing 3dmark to PIECES! This OC works with either of my two 5870s. Add in the other 5870, boots 3 out of 5 times, try to run anything 3d, any benchs, anything taxing on card #2... and driver freezes (recovers about 1 out of 20 times, but then crashes again after a couple mins). Yesterday I had it as stable as it's been yet with both 5870s for a few hours. No 8800gt, but same OC and volts mentioned above.. I was able to run Heaven bench and 3dmark V and 06 completely thru several times. The drivers were 9.10 but I had to enable Xfire.. and then uninstall catalyst control center. During benchs, GPU temps got up to low 80s and cpu temp sat around or just under 60. Today I installed catalyst 9.12, same problems all over again, only the "enable xfire, then uninstall CCC" trick doesn't work. I went back to 9.10 and it doesn't work there now either. I shouldn't have to try all these damn tricks and such, if my machine is totally stable with one card (even with a serious OC) why can't it crossfire?? Could this be the mobo(msi eclipse+) or the PSU(corsair hx850)??? Any ideas?

cjbrown80

11-22-2009, 10:12 AM

Mungri

11-22-2009, 02:25 PM

o.O ...

You painted your 5870s blue?

cjbrown80

11-22-2009, 02:32 PM

yeah, you wanna fight about it?

hehe

metallic blue, they look sick under a blue cold cathode.
I got the idea once I had the first one installed... giant ugly red side when everything else was blue...
so then I just stuck with the blue theme, turned out quite nice looking actually. Did you also notice the xfire bridges have a light dusting of blue on the top surface?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=358&pictureid=927

Unoid

11-23-2009, 10:31 PM

I got the Dual monitor flickering bug on my 5850.

Seems only when overdrive is activated that I get screen flicker while in 2d mode.

Any idea for a fix? are 9.12's gonna fix it?

stingush

11-24-2009, 01:35 PM

is there any way for a video card vendor(sapphire/msi/xfx etc..) to find out that i flashed the card bios? is there a bios flash log or something that they can discover? i mean, if i flashed a sapphire to msi bios.. than for RMA i flashed it back to sapphire's original... does sapphire have any way to get a log that i flashed it to msi and back to sapphire's ?

Locke

11-24-2009, 01:40 PM

I got the Dual monitor flickering bug on my 5850.

Seems only when overdrive is activated that I get screen flicker while in 2d mode.

Any idea for a fix? are 9.12's gonna fix it?

apparently (someone explained this in a thread i started) the unlock msi flash drops the refresh on the second monitor with any sort of overclock. even +1.

a new flash would be required. i don't think it has been resolved as of yet

Unoid

11-25-2009, 01:32 AM

apparently (someone explained this in a thread i started) the unlock msi flash drops the refresh on the second monitor with any sort of overclock. even +1.

a new flash would be required. i don't think it has been resolved as of yet

No clue when MSi or Asus will come out with an overclock/volt friendly bios that solves that problem?

ReverendMaynard

11-27-2009, 07:13 AM

Sapphire V2 5770 dead. Tried a RE5 run last night at 1000/1375 1.25v and the memory took a complete crap and now alone or paired with my other card, all I get is a grey screen.

Splave

11-27-2009, 07:23 AM

bummer hope they dont give you :banana::banana::banana::banana: being a refurb and all

ReverendMaynard

11-27-2009, 07:31 AM

wasn't a refurb, that Gigabyte from NCIX was backordered lol. I picked this one up new at canadacomputers and they are a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: for returns and rma.

HydrogenAlpha

11-28-2009, 09:38 AM

I'm gonna take them apart and check gpu and heatsink contact. I read a thread here- http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=107795 and the guy with a very similar problem fixed his by re-applying the thermal paste.

Hey CJB,

personally I think that if the problem NEVER happens with either card singly and is only OCCASIONAL with them in CF, then the most likely problem is your PSU. I had a similar problem with a quad SLi GTX 295 rig, and that was with a 1250W Coolermaster Pro PSU. Swapping it out completely fixed the problem, but not before the PSU fried one of my lovely new 160GB X25-M G2s. I got BSODs randomly when my PSU was on the blink.

On a side issue, you mentioned that you were thinking of replacing the TIM on the GPUs. I was going to do that on my 5870 but then I read anandtech's article and I've decided against it. The hottest part of these cards is the VRMs, but only the GPU temp causes the fan to accelerate. If you succeed in cooling the GPU by replacing the TIM, the fan may not accelerate enough to cool the VRMs sufficiently. AFAIK, you can't use AS5 on the VRMs - they need those stupid thermal pads to maintain contact. You could buy new thermal pads, but I don't see a point in that myself.

Best of luck,
H.Alpha

Unoid

11-28-2009, 08:39 PM

I got the Dual monitor flickering bug on my 5850.

Seems only when overdrive is activated that I get screen flicker while in 2d mode.

Any idea for a fix? are 9.12's gonna fix it?

HMM, i can't seem to trick drivers into using something other than 157mhz/300 for 2d idle speeds. Would a modified biosdo the trick or new drivers?

Also the unlocked MSi bios seems to make my card unreadable by GPU-z

Any fixes?

Blkout

11-29-2009, 05:06 AM

Sapphire V2 5770 dead. Tried a RE5 run last night at 1000/1375 1.25v and the memory took a complete crap and now alone or paired with my other card, all I get is a grey screen.

Was this on stock cooling?

ReverendMaynard

11-29-2009, 05:32 AM

Was this on stock cooling?

yep

Blkout

11-29-2009, 08:57 AM

yep

That's good then. I'm using watercooling for my 5850's. I just have to wonder if the overvoltage can kill some 5700 and 5800 series if pushed too far on stock cooling. I would like to think my watercooled 5850's are going to last for a while. GPU and VRM temps are not even half of what they would be on stock cooling even overvolted and overclocked.

Hell Hound

11-29-2009, 10:28 AM

I changed my gpu 2d clocks without bios flash,but on 4800 gpu,I dont know if this will work on 5800 gpu http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9638/gpu2dclocks.jpg

noob eater4726

11-29-2009, 01:47 PM

Hell Hound

11-29-2009, 02:04 PM

Check chipset to make sure you didn't knock off anything trying to fit waterblock.:shocked:

Blkout

11-29-2009, 05:07 PM

My Asus 5870 is artifacting in Windows immeadiately after booting up on an EK waterblock / stock clocks.

I thought the waterblock wasn't making good contact however it runs Furmark no problem - 35C GPU 45-50 VRMs. Tried Cat 9.11 and 9.10, Vista and Win 7.

What gives? :shrug:

You may have tightened it too much causing the board to flex. Did you use the supplied stand-off's? Try loosening the screws some and see if the problem goes away.

noob eater4726

11-29-2009, 05:39 PM

You may have tightened it too much causing the board to flex. Did you use the supplied stand-off's? Try loosening the screws some and see if the problem goes away.

I used the standoffs, but maybe one escaped during installation. :shrug:

Anyway, I tried loosening the screws to no avail. I guess I'll try a remount. Thanks for the help :up:

cjbrown80

11-30-2009, 06:51 AM

SilverSilence

11-30-2009, 04:52 PM

Sapphire V2 5770 dead. Tried a RE5 run last night at 1000/1375 1.25v and the memory took a complete crap and now alone or paired with my other card, all I get is a grey screen.

Exact same thing happened to me! I had to reinstall windows to fix it, it seems that CCC or Afterburner were were forcing the OC on at startup, fresh windows install should fix your problem :up:

Try booting into safe mode first to see if it displays an image.

Splave

12-02-2009, 06:31 PM

SilverSilence

12-02-2009, 08:52 PM

alright I have 4 of these bad boys (5770s) in quad-fire for benching
Problem Im having is max GPU usage in AB is %49 on any 1 single card ever (im guessing drivers are too immature still)
Scores at stock speeds are great and on point I believe, is AB maybe reading it wrong? (30k 06, 27k vantage i7 @ 4.0ghz)

Also is there a proper way to use afterburner 1.4.1? Do you have to unistall CCC?
Reason I ask is whenever I set fan speed and clocks in Afterburner, I get about to the forest bench on 3dmark06 and It kicks it back to stock clocks and fan speed (modest overclock of 900mhz core stock 1300 mem)

Check out my benchmarks with dual 5770's overclocked to 900/1300 here:
http://forum.strategyinformer.com/showthread.php?t=32540

Just install Catalyst, then install Afterburner, And your done. Also, go to your install directory and open the config file in notepad, and change 'enable unofficial overclocking' to 1.

Honestly though, if you're only OC'ing to 900/1300 just use Overdrive, don't bother with Afterburner ;)

Splave

12-03-2009, 05:55 AM

Thanks, with CCC it doesnt apply settings but they stick. So it like will let me apply 900 but then it gives me 850 in 3d.

I pulled the cards though, going to play with singles to wrap my mind around this. I enabled the unofficial and that seems to help.
PS if you are buying these cards get the REV 1 ones. The mem on the new ones is garbage 1340 max. I guess its the same as the 5800 cards where as the REV 1 cards are even better.

snoro

12-03-2009, 01:57 PM

i would like to know, for all 5770 owner, did you manage to solve the freezing problem in 2d mod of the vga, cause even with 9.11 catalyst i am still having it also, if bios flashing can avoided that would be really nice, never done it so dont want to take the risk of killing my vga.

Splave

12-04-2009, 09:50 AM

2x5870s in afterburner is messing up
Only changes clock speed of gpu1, I have it synched as well so it should clock both.
9.11's on XP

noob eater4726

12-05-2009, 03:10 PM

You may have tightened it too much causing the board to flex. Did you use the supplied stand-off's? Try loosening the screws some and see if the problem goes away.

So I remounted the block and its still artifacting. Should I try new drivers / Windows install, or just RMA the card?

Edit: It's wierd, I was playing Half-Life 2, and there were no visual artifacts what-so-ever (for like 20 minutes) until I got to a loading screen, then only after did some artifacts appear. I wonder if that means anything...

It seems to only artifact in 2D mode, games are fine. :P

SocketMan

12-07-2009, 06:28 AM

I still have the crossfire issues and it ends up being one of the 5870s, I'm just gonna kill myself. Me and my great ideas... that blue paint better not goof my warranty. I'll go nucking futs!

Something tells me AMD will not be impressed with your colour
scheme,maybe give it a quick green/dark red coat?

Now joking aside can you test the cards on a different board?
Were you getting (crossfire) artificats in games as well ?

generics_user

12-07-2009, 12:54 PM

i just got my 5770 and had no problems with them so far (running 24" wide screen)

it's a little bit loud (as expected; only acceptable stock solutions are passive ones with a proper fan) but i think that my accelero twin turbo is going to fit (depends on mounting hole placement as it has to fit under the hdd bays)

my v350 is about 2 times louder than with my old 4870@ twin turbo but temps in there are more than 5°C lower so it's a big step forward!

HWMB

12-07-2009, 01:32 PM

2x5870s in afterburner is messing up
Only changes clock speed of gpu1, I have it synched as well so it should clock both.
9.11's on XP

What 3D bench are you using?

After you clock them try running furmark in a window and monitor both GPU's with GPU-Z. I am sure despite the clock you place with AB powerplay will still clock each card according to its profile and what you are running. It happened when I was playing with my 5970 when I launched Furmark or a game both GPU's were synched.

Splave

12-07-2009, 02:43 PM

interesting will take a peak. I was running 3d03 and 3d05. weird thing was even on boot up msi atb says the gpu load is 100% constantly.

pr@$r1g

12-08-2009, 07:00 AM

Can anybody tell what is the prob

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5303/5700dx11.jpg

In the PIC above 2 screenshots of GPU-z .Im having a single 5770 the screenshot with GPUZ 0.3.7 was taken when i bought it,the next screenshot with GPUZ 0.3.8 is when i flashed it to ASUS bios.Before i flash in everest it used to show unified shader version 5.0 & Dx hardware support as 11.0.U can see them with the same drivers.
Why has the card become Dx10.1 but it supports Dx11 ?
I think it is the prob with all the asus cards or asus bios flashed ones.............

Can any one confirm this !

lutjens

12-08-2009, 07:08 AM

I know the 5970 cards have a flickering issue thats due to ATI Powerplay and many people have used the AMD GPU Clock Utility to slightly modify the clock speeds of the card, which seems to disable PowerPlay. Not sure if it'd work in this case, but it's worth a shot...;)

HydrogenAlpha

12-08-2009, 07:32 AM

@Hydrogen- I didn't as of yet check out Anands article, but heading there shortly. A status update though- my Eclipse+ has been RMA'd. The 2nd and 3rd PCIex slots stopped workingentirely, along with one of the lan ports. So I'm guessing an x58 issue was the culprit all along(??) The problems including Raid0 failures, crossfire, etc.. all controlled by the x58. Oh well... we'll see which, if any, (hopefully none) of the problems exist with a new board. Quite frankly, if I still have the crossfire issues and it ends up being one of the 5870s, I'm just gonna kill myself. Me and my great ideas... that blue paint better not goof my warranty. I'll go nucking futs!

I know how you feel - it's completely nerve racking when you're not sure if the problem will be solved or not. Still though, from the evidence, it sounds like you're right that the X58 is buggered. Remember that the most likely thing to bugger the MB is the PSU though! Like I said, when my POS 1250W coolermaster PSU went down it sent a ripple of current down the line to my lovely new 160GB X25-M and fried it. I'm sure it could fry the X58 NB just as efficiently.

I hope your 5870s are healthy - could be a very interesting conversation with the distributer if you try to RMA them in Smurf mode.

Good luck!

SocketMan

12-11-2009, 07:57 PM

Can anybody tell what is the prob

In the PIC above 2 screenshots of GPU-z .Im having a single 5770 the screenshot with GPUZ 0.3.7 was taken when i bought it,the next screenshot with GPUZ 0.3.8 is when i flashed it to ASUS bios.Before i flash in everest it used to show unified shader version 5.0 & Dx hardware support as 11.0.U can see them with the same drivers.
Why has the card become Dx10.1 but it supports Dx11 ?
I think it is the prob with all the asus cards or asus bios flashed ones.............

Can any one confirm this !

Check you video driver version,it might be too old.

Here is mine:
Hardware Driver

atiumdag.dll (8.14.10.0708 - ATI Catalyst 9.11)

pr@$r1g

12-12-2009, 03:24 AM

^^^ Mate the one u have stated is being used,check the GPU-Z screenshot .......

Any one using ASUS 5770 or bios flashed to ASUS please check yours ?

suphiceto

12-30-2009, 09:28 PM

I just recieved my sapphire today and I also have the flickering problem when it is overclocked. Is there a solution yet? I have tried the Ati hotfix and also tried with MSI and Asus bios. Like everybody mentioned, It seems to be an issue due to 2d OC speeds but, I have no idea how to bring those idle clocks up?
Thanks

wez

12-31-2009, 08:48 AM

suphiceto

12-31-2009, 02:12 PM

Use for example msi afterburner and lock the 3d clocks, should sort it for now until drivers do.

Currently I installed the new 5870 bios that seems to downclock to 400/1200 and it seems to solve my flickering problems right now. I cant overclock anything above 850 then it downclcoks to 157/300. Stills 850/1200 not so bad for now untill the mature bioses or drivers are released. Thanks.

Laxxen

01-08-2010, 02:47 PM

Just got my HD5770, just won't work. It won't post when the card is installed.
Everything else works perfect with my old GPU.

Anyone got the same problem? DOA? :down:

Laxxen

01-09-2010, 07:33 AM

Just got my HD5770, just won't work. It won't post when the card is installed.
Everything else works perfect with my old GPU.

Anyone got the same problem? DOA? :down:

This maybe helps,

Asus m2v-mx
Amd 5600+ x2
2gb random cheap kingston ram

I heard the 5770 is PCIe 2,1, could that be the problem?

Raiderman

01-09-2010, 08:39 AM

I heard the 5770 is PCIe 2,1, could that be the problem?

Should be backward compatible with 2.0

Laxxen

01-09-2010, 11:14 AM

Should be backward compatible with 2.0

Yes thats what i thought to, but cant really think of anything else. :shrug:

gOtVoltage

01-10-2010, 01:48 AM

Vista32...Cat 9.12 and Hotfix both Showed Sqaures and Green screen then would recover. all stock settings. Seems the Driver is fubared.

Installing 9.11Beta has seemed to stop the squares and Cat recovery

. The problem was so bad my PC/Catalyst would recover every 30 seconds to a minutes using any other driver.

I have a %100 fress install of Vista and Knew by reading all the 5770 threads i may have this problem...

Im replacing my 3870x2 with this XFX 5770 until i can grab a 59xx.....

Man its a noticeable differance and uses half the 1/3 the power lol.

Stoner Tech", Oh lets makes a B_I_T_C_H_E_n card n handY Cap It .

.If we only had what there smoking, !

Milky Way

01-10-2010, 02:19 AM

This maybe helps,

Asus m2v-mx
Amd 5600+ x2
2gb random cheap kingston ram

I heard the 5770 is PCIe 2,1, could that be the problem?

I think it's you're motherboard. It's got a "VIA K8M890" which is problematic with newer graphics cards. Se here for example: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=248415

I'd try the card in a modern motherboard to be sure. Maybe you know somebody who has a newer PC?

gOtVoltage

01-10-2010, 02:29 AM

UPDATE Cat911 beta dose it too:mad:

Laxxen

01-10-2010, 06:33 AM

I think it's you're motherboard. It's got a "VIA K8M890" which is problematic with newer graphics cards. Se here for example: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=248415

I'd try the card in a modern motherboard to be sure. Maybe you know somebody who has a newer PC?

unfortunately i dont know anyone with a better motherboard, thanks for the help. It´s probably time up upgrade anyway :rolleyes:

joshd

02-03-2010, 12:12 PM

Does anyone else find that when their card is at stock, with dual monitors, the clocks change between low and high power 3d (400/1000 to 765/1125) all the time, and every time this happens, there is a single flash on one of the screens?

It's nowhere near as bad as when you OC slightly and the clocks drop to really low speeds I know, but it is still a pain!

EDIT: 5850 btw