does it worth upgrading GTX275 to HD5850?

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does it worth upgrading to HD5850 from GTX275?

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[Blkout]

About 20% faster.

[SocketMan]

Would depend on the game,but most likely no won't make much difference imo.

[dan7777]

bout 15% faster apart from the dx11 there won"t be much difference i would wait abit for price drops your gtx 275 will play anything.

[zshadow]

Probably not. 275 to 5870 is worth it though, at least it was in my case. I run at 2560x1600 res.

[Boulard83]

I have a gtx285 and im swaping for a HD5850 .. gona OC it to 900 24/7 on a scythe MUSASHI and there you go !

Gona use my GTX285 on my HTPC since im running Games on a 1080P screen.

Like its been told, GTX275 vs HD5850 its about 15% faster. Something nice !

[jfer]

I have a gtx285 and im swaping for a HD5850 .. gona OC it to 900 24/7 on a scythe MUSASHI and there you go !

Gona use my GTX285 on my HTPC since im running Games on a 1080P screen.

Like its been told, GTX275 vs HD5850 its about 15% faster. Something nice !

Smartest thing! I have a 5850 oc'ed to 1100core/5200mem(watercooled) and it beats my previous 4890crossfire setup. I would totally move to a 5850 and having a possibility to add a second one. Best Buy choice!:up:

[zalbard]

Sure it is. Especially if you OC it. It's a great card. :up:

[Blkout]

Probably not. 275 to 5870 is worth it though, at least it was in my case. I run at 2560x1600 res.

Horsesh*t. My stock clocked 5850 was faster than my GTX 285 overclocked and the 285 is faster than the 275.

[DonInKansas]

Faster with significantly lower power draw. Win/Win.

[justin.kerr]

Smartest thing! I have a 5850 oc'ed to 1100core/5200mem(watercooled) and it beats my previous 4890crossfire setup. I would totally move to a 5850 and having a possibility to add a second one. Best Buy choice!:up:

Really? I find this hard to understand, what are you using to determine that the 5850 is fatser?

[perkam]

Yes, because one is more awesome that the other.

OR

Because of this:

http://www.techreport.com/r.x/radeon-hd5850/warhead.gif

(Yes you're reading it right, thats not a 275, that's a 285)

Perkam

[justin.kerr]

exactly perkam, the 4890 is 3 FPS slower, so how would 2 4890's still be slower than one 5850?

[Boulard83]

Remember that its also a DX11 upgrade. OP is gona be rdy for DX11 + a futur HD5850 CF. This would leave him at least 1+ year ( i hope ) of gaming with only a HD5850 to add later.

[gamervivek]

Really? I find this hard to understand, what are you using to determine that the 5850 is fatser?

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4687/04crysis.png (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/04crysis.png/)


4890 scaling,iirc, won't get them to the oc'd 5850 levels, and the fact that his 5850 is overclocked much more than this review.

[justin.kerr]

so you are telling me that a lowly 4870x2 is now faster than 4890 in crossfire? so according to this new math 4890's in crossfire are slower than a 4870x2 and a 5850, even though all logic and reviews, and personal tests show the opposite?

[oohms]

I dont think crysis/crysis warhead are the best benchmarks to use

[zshadow]

Horsesh*t. My stock clocked 5850 was faster than my GTX 285 overclocked and the 285 is faster than the 275.

I didn't say it wouldn't be an improvement. The question was is it worth it to upgrade. At 1920x1080, I think a GTX275 suffices. It's not worth paying the price premium for a 5850 when pretty much everything is still playable at max on your current card apart from Crysis.

[jaredpace]

so you are telling me that a lowly 4870x2 is now faster than 4890 in crossfire? so according to this new math 4890's in crossfire are slower than a 4870x2 and a 5850, even though all logic and reviews, and personal tests show the opposite?

not at stock. the guy you quoted says his 5850 at 1100/5200 watercooled is faster than his 4890 CF.

sounds believable to me

[justin.kerr]

hmm well maybe it is true, I just don't see how it is possible. I have yet to see a 5870 be faster than 4890 crossfire, but this 5850 is? I am so confused.

[1nvisible]

FAT NO!, not worth the hassle, price or it's ugliness, plus there's no apps to run and with the developers being so console biased chances are there won't be anything substantial for a longtime... i would even go as far as to say not until next generation of consoles are out! Nvidia fanboy i'm, i was going to say wait and see what Nvidia has to offer, but by the looks of this drought on PC gamers, its a FAT NO! :)

Btw was going to upgrade for MW2 to get some nice FPS, but with consoles commands being out i think the frame rates are capped so it would be pointless.

[Blkout]

FAT NO!, not worth the hassle, price or it's ugliness, plus there's no apps to run and with the developers being so console biased chances are there won't be anything substantial for a longtime... i would even go as far as to say not until next generation of consoles are out! Nvidia fanboy i'm, i was going to say wait and see what Nvidia has to offer, but by the looks of this drought on PC gamers, its a FAT NO! :)

Btw was going to upgrade for MW2 to get some nice FPS, but with consoles commands being out i think the frame rates are capped so it would be pointless.

You should be banned for posting such nonsense.

[Movieman]

Put's on the hat..

Gentleman: Please keep it civil.
I know we all have the part we love but to bash one another over this stuff is plain nuts besides, it makes me type and I have the beginings of carpal tunnel so be nice even if it's just to keep this old fool happy!
Thanks.

[pezcore]

I personally went from an 8800GT to a GTX275 to a 5850 then to a 5850 + 8800GT for PhysX and now I have a GTX 295.

The upgrade from the 8800GT to the GTX275 was huge. (I even tried them both together after the 5850, not that great)

There was a small performance increase going from the 275 to the 5850, but I lost PhysX (and missed it) so I added the 8800GT.

That was a pain in the ass and I decided I did not want dual graphics cards, so I went with the GTX295. So far I am happy.

I use 3DMark Vantage and Batman Arkham Asylum as my benchmarks.

*edit - with the scarcity of HD58xx stuff right now, and the lack of DX11 titles (and proof of its value) I would stick with the 275 unless it's not able to keep up with your demands. (I'd add a second 275 before I switched to a 5850)

[wiak]

get a 5870
and batman is kinda pointless as nvidia has blocked AMD from AA, so basicly it sould NOT be trusted as a *benchmark*

[Bootup05]

^^

Sell your current card, use a spare system for a while, giving you teh cash to pick up a 5870. THAT would be a worthwile upgrade :]

I've gone 4850 512 > 4890 1024 myself. Noticable.

4890/GTX275, Is an even smaller difference, It was hard for me to justify my upgrade, IDK about you :up:

[jfer]

My OC´ed 4890xfire system is more of an hassle cause it had drops where my SUPA 5850 is more consistent. So I prefer a more stable FPS chart with my 5850 than a high pitch FPS chart with more heat and power requirements.

[Blkout]

My OC´ed 4890xfire system is more of an hassle cause it had drops where my SUPA 5850 is more consistent. So I prefer a more stable FPS chart with my 5850 than a high pitch FPS chart with more heat and power requirements.

I went with two 5850's so I have the best of both worlds. :yepp:

[jfer]

teaser...:rolleyes:

[pezcore]

get a 5870
and batman is kinda pointless as nvidia has blocked AMD from AA, so basicly it sould NOT be trusted as a *benchmark*

I based it on smoothness (both visible & measureable FPS), not AA quality

[Kenjiwing]

Would depend on the game,but most likely no won't make much difference imo.

Pretty much correct.

[Panther68]

If you want the truth, and by "truth", I mean a 100% unbiased (I have used both nVidia, as well as ATI-based graphics cards over the years, and I still find both excellent choices) truth, there is only one REAL answer. It doesn't matter whether you are looking for better performance, or a better financial answer, for the answer to both is the exact same. Considering you already have one GTX 275, it will be less costly to purchase a second of the same, compared to the cost of purchasing a new HD5850. On top of the, the GTX 275 SLI configuration will provide you with FAR superior graphical power when compared to a single HD5850. Yes, a Crossfire HD5850 configuration would outperform a GTX 275 SLI configuration, but a cost that greatly exceeds that of purchasing a second GTX 275. To make it even better, with prices on the GTS 275 cards at a reasonably low amount, you could pick up an OC version, making that your primary card, with the older unit being the secondary card.

With such a configuration, you would enable the second (ie. older GTX 275) as the PhysX card, for not all games are SLI/Crossfire capable. Additionally, you would still be able to OC either/both of the GTX 275s. Once prices come down of the DX11 cards, then I would consider replacing the current cards, but there's really no need to do that now. Besides, when you look into things, how many games are currently available, or will be coming out anytime soon that fully utilize the newer capabilities supported by DX11? The truth is, not many, especially when compared to the untold numbers of games that support DX10. Not only that, but if you did happen to purchase a game that was DX11 capable, it will still play on a DX10 card, and, more likely then naught, will have a faster frame-rate to boot. Think back to when DX10 cards were introduced, and how much better games played while still running under DX9. If memory serves any of you correctly, you will remember that they performed better under DX9 than they did under DX10, although, eventually, they performed equally, if not better then, DX9. The same will hold true with games under DX11 vs. DX10.

The final answer, once again, should be a simple one to make - until the prices of DX11 cards comes down, pick up a second GTX 275, and run them, together, in an SLI configuration. They will outperform, by a great margin, a single HD5850, and for less money. You should be able to pick up a new GTX 275 for around $200, if not slightly less, and as for an OC version, I know I've seen them for slightly more. If you have a Micro Center store near you, you can pick up a BFG GeForce GTX 275 OC 896MB for $219.99. TigerDirect has the same card for $254.99. If you don't mind a used one, you can find them on Amazon for as little as $179.95 While the card is, technically, discontinued, there are still several sources you can find them through.

[sniper_sung]

At least wait for 6850

[Taskforce]

Wait till forth quarter for newer rev. cards, you don't really need an upgrade, many current games still do just fine on 200 series @1080p.