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Carandiru
11-04-2009, 07:42 PM
Got my new fancy MSI 5850, installed, and no post. No bios codes either, fans are turning, can hear harddrives working, etc.

Asus K8N-DL Motherboard. No Overclocking.

Put the old 8800gt back in, no problem booting. Tried the new 5850 in my son's computer, and it WORKS !?!?

Sure its motherboard/psu problem right ? Not by the look of it.

Corsair 750 TX PSU. Latest bios for motherboard.

Oh no my motherboard isn't compatible !?!?!

Nope, PCIe spec compliant, and by the look of it many people with many different kinds of motherboards are having the exact same problem.

http://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?t=11134

http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=260&threadid=120253&enterthread=y&STARTPAGE=1
http://superuser.com/questions/59473/new-radeon-5850-video-cards-fan-occasionally-runs-at-full-speed-and-pc-doesnt-b
http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?p=1034811433

Talk about pissed off, I've been building computers for years, and I'm a computer programmer. I bet you $1000 these new radeon 5800 cards need a gfx-bios update to be fully compliant with pcie standards.

Locke
11-04-2009, 09:08 PM
Got my new fancy MSI 5850, installed, and no post. No bios codes either, fans are turning, can hear harddrives working, etc.

Asus K8N-DL Motherboard. No Overclocking.

Put the old 8800gt back in, no problem booting. Tried the new 5850 in my son's computer, and it WORKS !?!?

Sure its motherboard/psu problem right ? Not by the look of it.

Corsair 750 TX PSU. Latest bios for motherboard.

Oh no my motherboard isn't compatible !?!?!

Nope, PCIe spec compliant, and by the look of it many people with many different kinds of motherboards are having the exact same problem.

http://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?t=11134

http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=260&threadid=120253&enterthread=y&STARTPAGE=1
http://superuser.com/questions/59473/new-radeon-5850-video-cards-fan-occasionally-runs-at-full-speed-and-pc-doesnt-b
http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?p=1034811433

Talk about pissed off, I've been building computers for years, and I'm a computer programmer. I bet you $1000 these new radeon 5800 cards need a gfx-bios update to be fully compliant with pcie standards.

mine gets flakey when i shut the machine down, but i have a water block on the gpu, i loosen it and that seems to help.

Razrback16
11-05-2009, 09:10 AM
You say there is no BIOS update for your board either? My dad's box had an issue where the MB BIOS needed updated because if you would try to play any videos in Windows Media Player it would blue screen and reboot. BIOS update fixed issue.

BenchZowner
11-05-2009, 09:39 AM
Countdown til somebody blames nVIDIA for this :D

j/k

Sorry to hear about your problems Carandiru.
I'm quite sure though that a VGA BIOS update ( from the same or another manufacturer with a reference design card of course ) will solve it.

Carandiru
11-05-2009, 10:35 AM
Well if anyone knows of a vga bios that fixes pci-express compatibility, please let me know =)

WrigleyVillain
11-05-2009, 10:54 AM
Countdown til somebody blames nVIDIA for this :D


Ok, that was funny.

To(V)bo Co(V)bo
11-05-2009, 12:10 PM
What other hardware do you have in the rig? Could be a compatability problem with other hardware. What kind of video card are you replacing? If it is IGP you need to disable it.

For me I always reset my CMOS when upgrading new video cards, give that a shot. :up:

Carandiru
11-05-2009, 07:41 PM
Yeah I pulled everything out non essential. No onboard video, was using a 8800GT - right next to the pci express pins it say ROHS compliant, radeon - no such logo. Cleared the CMOS too, which shouldn't have to be done and made no difference. Like I said it before, tried it in my son's computer and it boot A-OK.

overclocking101
11-05-2009, 08:14 PM
if it works on your sons computer then its not the gpu being non pci-e compliant because you are plugging it into another pci-e slot lol. ive never had an ati gpou that said ROHS compliant on the card its self but in the manual it does. try the psu that is in your sons rig. if that doesnt work i would say for some reason your mobo isnt compatible m8 thats what the finger seems to be pinting towards to me. its an amd motherboard right? as in socket wise?? also what are you plugging the card into the monitor with on your rig and your sons rig? DVI? HDMI?? VGA???

Carandiru
11-05-2009, 10:55 PM
Yeah tried both DVI and VGA aswell, no luck. As for my motherboard being incompatible, yeah you might say that BUT looking around the web with a good number of people having the exact same issue, but different motherboards doesn't isolate it to just motherboard incompatability.
I've sent the card back nevertheless for a refund, and will be keeping an eye out for one of the manufactures to release an updated gfx/vga bios that addresses the pci-express comptability issue.

stangracin3
11-06-2009, 06:32 AM
did you uninstall the nvidia drivers?

Piotrsama
11-06-2009, 10:09 AM
did you uninstall the nvidia drivers?

The PC does not boot, nothing to do with drivers :p:

SocketMan
11-06-2009, 11:23 AM
Countdown til somebody blames nVIDIA for this :D

j/k






did you uninstall the nvidia drivers?
:rofl:

How old is the BIOS on the motherboard ?

wiak
11-06-2009, 02:21 PM
Countdown til somebody blames nVIDIA for this :D
might well be nvidia it is a NVIDIA chipset and everyone knows that nvidia chipsets are picky on PCIe version

Quad-Damage
11-07-2009, 02:08 PM
Update the Bios drivers on the motherboard would be my 1st step

Piotrsama
11-09-2009, 02:54 AM
I blame nVidia for making ATI's cards expensive and not being quick enough to release next gen 40nm video cards.
Blame TSMC.

Update the Bios drivers on the motherboard would be my 1st step
In his first post he said this:

Latest bios for motherboard.