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redrumy3
10-29-2009, 10:48 PM
Hello,

Just put together a new i7 build for a friend, it fails linx everytime at 6 minutes and i cant figure out why no matter what i try.

i7 920
Asus P6T SE ( Bios 0603 )
6GB Patriot Viper DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24
Antec 1200 Case
XFX HD 4870 1GB
500GB Seagate 7200.12
Corsair 650HX
Cooler Master V8
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

Memory in Orange Slot

8-8-8-24 88 2T

Bios Settings


Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio: x20
Intel Speed Step: Disable
BCLK Freq: 133
PCIE Feq:100
DRAM Freq: DDR3-1600MHZ
UCLK Freq: Auto
QPI Link Data Rate: Auto
------------------------
CPU Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL: Auto
QPI/DRAM Voltage: 1.25
IOH Voltage: Auto
IOH PCIE Voltage: Auto
ICH Voltage: Auto
ICH PCIE Voltage: Auto
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.66
-----------------------------
Load-Line Calibration: Auto
CPU Differential Amplitude: Auto
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
HyperThreating: Enable

Kinda followed the settings posted here on patriot site

http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4114&postcount=3

v8 temps when linx was running 74-73-71-71

stock heatsink was hitting around 95-100

3dmark vantage

http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=1548409&resultType=19

Also tried Ocz DDR3-1600 Memory as well does the same thing, fails linx @ 6 minutes XX Seconds


Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks Alot,
Rumy

SoulsCollective
10-29-2009, 10:51 PM
Temps?

redrumy3
10-29-2009, 10:56 PM
Temps?

figured i forgot to post something :P

temps when linx was running 74-73-71-71

stock was hitting around 95-100

also ran 3dmark

http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=1548409&resultType=19

im running prime95 right now

SoulsCollective
10-29-2009, 11:09 PM
I'm presuming that by that you mean that you now have an aftermarket cooler on the CPU, and that the stock cooler that was on there previously was hitting 95-100 degrees under linpack load. Correct?

I'd say thermal throttling. You've obviously got a terrible contact between core and IHS if the stock cooler is hitting 100C under load at stock speeds and voltages - RMA the CPU.

redrumy3
10-29-2009, 11:16 PM
I'm presuming that by that you mean that you now have an aftermarket cooler on the CPU, and that the stock cooler that was on there previously was hitting 95-100 degrees under linpack load. Correct?

I'd say thermal throttling. You've obviously got a terrible contact between core and IHS if the stock cooler is hitting 100C under load at stock speeds and voltages - RMA the CPU.

stock cooler was running that high

but with V8 on it highest temp is 76 so far with prime95

r1rhyder
10-29-2009, 11:26 PM
Try QPI/DRAM Voltage: 1.35

SoulsCollective
10-29-2009, 11:26 PM
RMA the CPU. At stock speeds and voltages, the stock cooler should never hit that high.

redrumy3
10-29-2009, 11:35 PM
well i if prime95 fails i guess i can try rma on cpu but here is a screenshot so far

Room Temp 70F

Forgot to mention case Antec 1200 made sure all fans running high speed and made sure v8 fan was on max speed as well

prime95 running for 30 minutes so far

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5302/p95screen.png

dan7777
10-29-2009, 11:40 PM
have you tryed running intel burn test thats a good program for stability.

redrumy3
10-29-2009, 11:47 PM
i will let it prime overnight and see what happens, i will try intel burn test after, i just don't know why it would fail linx in 6 minutes.

thanks for the replys really appreciate it btw :)

Leeghoofd
10-30-2009, 03:47 AM
have you tryed running intel burn test thats a good program for stability.

I think that program is more buggier than LinX... last one gets far more regular updates... overall I don't like the Intel burn tests at all :rofl: pure waste of good cycles and far too high temps...

dan7777
10-30-2009, 07:11 AM
I think that program is more buggier than LinX... last one gets far more regular updates... overall I don't like the Intel burn tests at all :rofl: pure waste of good cycles and far too high temps... well... i use it and it seems better than prime 95 certainly tells you if a system is stable or not my opinion its very good.

SoulsCollective
10-30-2009, 07:17 AM
overall I don't like the Intel burn tests at all :rofl: pure waste of good cycles and far too high temps...
Er...right. So LinX is good because it uses linpack, but IBT is bad because it does...exactly the same? The point of a stress test program is to test if your OC is stable. That, generally, involved stressing the system which, generally, involves using CPU cycles and producing heat.

Getting back to the topic at hand, OP, even if you can get stability with a slight voltage bump, I'd still RMA that CPU. Temperatures sufficient to boil water should not be happening with the stock cooler at stock volts - you've obviously got either a very high-leakage chip or incredibly bad IHS-to-core contact, neither of which you want to put up with. Take it back while you're still within the retailer warranty period, otherwise you have to talk directly to Intel and it'll get involved and painful.

Leeghoofd
10-30-2009, 07:29 AM
well... i use it and it seems better than prime 95 certainly tells you if a system is stable or not my opinion its very good.

When [M] was digging into the B2B Cas delay settings we found the rigs to be Linpack stable (MAXMEM and 8 threads) , yet they failed HyperPI 32MB ( 8 instances ) And we experienced some weird lockups... there's no ultimate test tool... better run a mix... I just find Intel Linpack overrated... and it stresses faaaaaaar too hard... but to each his own, if you are happy, I'm happy


Er...right. So LinX is good because it uses linpack, but IBT is bad because it does...exactly the same?

Duallist is far quicker on the ball to fix an issue or adapt LinX to new Operating systems and newer CPU's than AgentGod (last update since June sir). We had loads of issues with IBT... ( declaring non stable rigs, but it was an error in the shell program)

zalbard
10-30-2009, 07:42 AM
100 C using the stock cooler? +1 to RMA the CPU.

Leeghoofd
10-30-2009, 08:10 AM
I would really love to see some pictures of that build... ambients must be over 30°C to just idle at 45-50°C

Check the IHS with a razor blade for flatness

redrumy3
10-30-2009, 12:58 PM
i am now testing with occt cause prim95 ran fine but seems like it was only testing 3gb of the ram all night but nothing failed.

as soon as i run linx or intel burn test it fails within 6 minutes

heres ooct running atm will let it run for an hour to see if it fails.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5151/20197176.jpg

also testing with ocz ram now as well

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4607/img00124200910301348.jpg

kiwi
10-30-2009, 01:36 PM
Er...right. So LinX is good because it uses linpack, but IBT is bad because it does...exactly the same? The point of a stress test program is to test if your OC is stable. That, generally, involved stressing the system which, generally, involves using CPU cycles and producing heat.


Check IBT thread mate :) IBT was failing stable setups because of bugs or something

redrumy3
10-30-2009, 01:39 PM
well OCCT passed fine for the 1 hour of testing, prime95 ran fine over night.

intel burn test and linx fail evertime no matter what lol so idk :X

redrumy3
10-30-2009, 02:30 PM
passed 3

and failed at #4

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6886/95999199.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8256/62578304.jpg

redrumy3
10-30-2009, 03:24 PM
alright i think i got it now, got new patriot sticks and linx is now passing, did 5 runs and it didn't error.

will do 10 runs and see but im pretty sure its fixed now

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7811/93016818.jpg

SoulsCollective
10-30-2009, 06:16 PM
I just find Intel Linpack overrated... and it stresses faaaaaaar too hard... but to each his own, if you are happy, I'm happy
...
Duallist is far quicker on the ball to fix an issue or adapt LinX to new Operating systems and newer CPU's than AgentGod (last update since June sir). We had loads of issues with IBT... ( declaring non stable rigs, but it was an error in the shell program)
Check IBT thread mate :) IBT was failing stable setups because of bugs or somethingSee, this is a different (and valid) criticism from "IBT makes your CPU work too hard".

alright i think i got it now, got new patriot sticks and linx is now passing, did 5 runs and it didn't error.

will do 10 runs and see but im pretty sure its fixed nowDude...RMA the CPU. It obviously has an extremely bad contact between die surface and IHS, giving you terrible temps, and given that it's taken you five tries to find a set of RAM which will work with the CPU at stock settings, it's highly likely that it has a broken IMC. You don't want to be dealing with this long-term, take it back before it's too late.