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trt740
10-24-2009, 08:12 AM
just downloaded it from my card last night. enjoy :)

Riska
10-24-2009, 12:58 PM
How is it unlocked?

ColonelCain
10-24-2009, 01:22 PM
I'd like to know as well...

EDIT: Unless it has something like 3870's did.

gergregg
10-24-2009, 01:59 PM
How is it unlocked?

Like most Asus cards it has higher core and memory clock limits, allowing you to overclock further.

Riska
10-24-2009, 04:22 PM
U can just use the amd gpuclock tool it have unlimmited clocks

And i am waiting for the Msi unlocked bios it wil have something like 1800/2600mhz clocks limit in ccc

trt740
10-25-2009, 02:24 PM
Well with this bios my card does ddr5 5780 and well over 1000 core and the voltage and bios settings work for after burner. However if you want to wait that up to you. Basically this bios allow for software voltage control and clock speeds well in access of what you can reach stable on a 5770.


http://img.techpowerup.org/091025/5770 vantage.jpg

High.K
10-25-2009, 02:26 PM
Indeed.

ik can run my 2 Asus HD5770 @ 1050/1200 @ 1.27v( if i bump the memory higher then i'am getting lower score's on benchmarks)

But i think cause its the referance design everbody can get the clocks en voltage control by using Afterburner 1.3
If not flash the Asus bios

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq250/Silenthardware/28298.jpg

trt740
10-25-2009, 02:32 PM
Indeed.

ik can run my 2 Asus HD5770 @ 1050/1200 @ 1.27v( if i bump the memory higher then i'am getting lower score's on benchmarks)

But i think cause its the referance design everbody can get the clocks en voltage control by using Afterburner 1.3
If not flash the Asus bios

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq250/Silenthardware/28298.jpg

Nope you need a unlocked bios to use one tool, voltage you can control but unless you have this bios the clocks are locked on the core at 960 you can subvert that with amd gpu tool but it's a pain in the ass. Also the ram on your cards must be bad because these cards use better ram than the 5870/5850 and should go allot higher than 1200.

Riska
10-25-2009, 03:18 PM
I can go to 1110/1475 on my master card at 1.35v with Afterburner and amdclocktool and my cards are saphire

trt740
10-25-2009, 05:34 PM
I can go to 1110/1475 on my master card at 1.35v with Afterburner and amdclocktool and my cards are saphire

Thats great but I can do it without using two different tools, and it loads automatically. If you don't want the bios don't use it no one said you had to. However, someone else might want to. Also at 1.35v that not a stable clock with the stock cooler so you must be on water? The clocks I posted are occt stress test stable. At those clocks with the stock cooler your gpu will error out the azz at a heavy load.

Theorw
10-26-2009, 01:06 AM
I need a SURE answer.I am waiting my 5770 tomorrow morning and i am looking forward to flashing it with the asus bios posted above.So is it SURE i wont turn out with a dead card and having to force flash it with the original bios or using DOA RMA ??I mean it will be reference CONNECT3D card so it wont have any problems right?

Theorw
10-26-2009, 01:10 AM
And another question!After having found the OC limits of my card,can i flash it with OCed clocks or is it not yet compatible with RBE???

trt740
10-26-2009, 06:01 AM
I need a SURE answer.I am waiting my 5770 tomorrow morning and i am looking forward to flashing it with the asus bios posted above.So is it SURE i wont turn out with a dead card and having to force flash it with the original bios or using DOA RMA ??I mean it will be reference CONNECT3D card so it wont have any problems right?


Well all the 5770 cards are reference and that bios is from my reference asus card so since your new card and mine would be physically identical there should be no problem.


And another question!After having found the OC limits of my card,can i flash it with OCed clocks or is it not yet compatible with RBE??? On this I'm not sure but as of now I believe RBE is not compatible. Also there is no need to do anything with the clock speeds since afterburner will save and preload any over clocking clocks and voltage you use.

Riska
10-26-2009, 08:00 AM
The 1.35v are with the stock cooler at 100% and vantage stable for many times occt is not at tool i use and with the asus bios i cant set the voltage with afterburner or smartdoctor on all 4 cards but i can do that with stock bios thats wy i am not using the asus bios.

pvhk
10-26-2009, 12:37 PM
Somes screens of gpu temperature with this voltage & speeds would be interesting to see if it's on stock air cooling! :)

Theorw
10-26-2009, 12:43 PM
Well all the 5770 cards are reference and that bios is from my reference asus card so since your new card and mine would be physically identical there should be no problem.

On this I'm not sure but as of now I believe RBE is not compatible. Also there is no need to do anything with the clock speeds since afterburner will save and preload any over clocking clocks and voltage you use.

Thanks dude!
About my 2nd question i get that i ll be able to load the clocks each time i play a game but i think that having set the values to the bios would be the best way to go since u avoid any program bug or something...that might happen!
I hope RBE will support these soon!
When i get my card tomorrow i ll run some benches on stock cooler and then i put the musashi on and see what it can do!

trt740
10-26-2009, 01:30 PM
The 1.35v are with the stock cooler at 100% and vantage stable for many times occt is not at tool i use and with the asus bios i cant set the voltage with afterburner or smartdoctor on all 4 cards but i can do that with stock bios thats wy i am not using the asus bios.

Vantage stable means zero. Thats not a accurate tool to test stability. Most of the time vantage stability doesn't translate at all to in game stability. Still nice benching clock.

Riska
10-26-2009, 02:03 PM
I dont have a singel game in my house or on my pc i only use this pc for benching and the barebone for inet and news and pics will come later i am not at home right now

SonDa5
10-26-2009, 03:26 PM
So are 2 of these in Xfire going to beat a single HD5850? I'm talking about over clocked for both configurations of course.

trt740
10-26-2009, 05:53 PM
I dont have a singel game in my house or on my pc i only use this pc for benching and the barebone for inet and news and pics will come later i am not at home right now

Can I ask really what is the point of your posts. This thread is to allow people who want a unlocked 5770 bios the opportunity to download it . If you don't want the bios that fine but please stop with this debate it irrelevant to this topic. I was trying to be helpful and post a unlocked bios. What is your deal? Most people actually use their computer to play games with this card and would like to get the most out of their card and need this bios to help get them there. Bottom line if you don't want the bios don't use it. Take your debate to the 5xxx series card discussion thread where it belongs. :rolleyes: Here is the thread you want http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=233621. However, this is a unlocked bios thread , where you guessed it!!!!! you can download the one and only unlocked 5770 series bios. I realize Msi is going to be releasing one soon but until then that is what this thread is for.

Mungri
10-28-2009, 03:46 AM
Thanks. Just flashed mine and I now have 1200 Mhz as the upper GPU limit in CCC.

This method is better then using AMD GPU tool, as it doesnt deactivate powerplay when overclocking above the default CCC limit, and AMD GPU tool isnt even working yet on these cards either.

SocketMan
10-28-2009, 04:00 AM
AMD GPU tool isnt even working yet on these cards either.



You need the newest version:
0.9.26.0

http://downloads.guru3d.com/AMD-GPU-Clock-Tool-v0.9.26.0-For-HD-5870-download-2383.html
********************************************
THX for posting the Asus BIOS :up:

Theorw
10-28-2009, 04:09 AM
Does atiflash 3,75 support flashing 5770?

Mungri
10-28-2009, 04:11 AM
Does atiflash 3,75 support flashing 5770?

Whichever one I just used worked, dont know which version as I have a dedicated ATIflash USB stick that I just stuck in, copied the bios onto and flashed :)

I had to do each one seperately though, and am uninstalling / reinstalling the drivers now.

Theorw
10-28-2009, 06:32 AM
Cool thanks!I know it exist somewhere but can u point me in the article about creating a bootable USB STICK?
Thanks!

SonDa5
10-28-2009, 08:27 AM
You need the newest version:
0.9.26.0

http://downloads.guru3d.com/AMD-GPU-Clock-Tool-v0.9.26.0-For-HD-5870-download-2383.html
********************************************
THX for posting the Asus BIOS :up:



Can you over clock 2 HD5770s at the same time with GPU Clock?

SocketMan
10-28-2009, 11:24 AM
Can you over clock 2 HD5770s at the same time with GPU Clock?

I only got 1x5770,it does however work on my other board with 3 (2x4850+1x4890) cards,allowing each one to be clocked independently.

SonDa5
10-28-2009, 12:16 PM
Socket Man crank that up and post some Benchmarks! :cool:

Theorw
10-28-2009, 02:03 PM
I did this so far...The vantage is @960/1400
I have to say that i find the ASUS bios rather unstable...I cant finish 06 or vantage anymore @1040 while before i could...Rather strange...
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3537/27121.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27121.jpg)
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3002/58047.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=58047.jpg)
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3645/vant9566.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vant9566.jpg)

SonDa5
10-28-2009, 02:34 PM
I did this so far...The vantage is @960/1400
I have to say that i find the ASUS bios rather unstable...I cant finish 06 or vantage anymore @1040 while before i could...Rather strange...



Great to see some nice benchmarks with the 5770. :up:


Are you running Asus Smart Dr or MSI AFterburner 1.3.0 for Voltage control?

Try adjusting voltage. That might stable it out and allow for higher clocks.

How do you like UT X48?

i have noticed X48 does better at 3dMark05 and 3dMark01 than my DFI JR T2RS P45.

I'd like to try your MB out. Should i get one? or Stay where i am at?

Theorw
10-28-2009, 02:55 PM
Actually its LP DK X48!!They cost like 100 euros now so yeah try it out if u want but only for xire!single card it wont be that different!
Well i have maxed out the volts on MSI aft. but i dont think its needed that much,will lower tommorrow by trial and error!
1 more thing i noticed!While MSI reports 1,35 volts,my DMM shows 1,39!!!WOW 0,04 is quite big isnt it?

pvhk
10-29-2009, 09:13 AM
not a fight! :wave:
Just to say that the asus bios works fine with my gigabyte HD5770 freshly flashed!
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5081/p11021.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/p11021.jpg/)

SonDa5
10-29-2009, 09:54 AM
not a fight! :wave:
Just to say that the asus bios works fine with my gigabyte HD5770 freshly flashed!



Very nice. :up:

What about flashed with the Sapphire?

Theorw
10-30-2009, 12:21 AM
I want A QUAAAADDDDDD too....My scores get so low cos of my C2D.........:(:(

Theorw
10-30-2009, 12:32 AM
Why GPUZ does not correctly detect my OCed specs??I use the 3,6 version too!

pvhk
10-30-2009, 12:56 AM
you can download the special rev of gpu-z for hd5700 over at techpowerup forum!:wave:

Theorw
10-30-2009, 01:02 AM
you can download the special rev of gpu-z for hd5700 over at techpowerup forum!:wave:

Now where would that be special version be located....:rolleyes:

pvhk
10-30-2009, 01:09 AM
you did not made a good research:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106483

pvhk
10-30-2009, 06:15 AM
it was not easy to set up my CF!
MSI afterburner was a no go...
But finally with ccc & voltagetweak everything works fine!:wth:
asus bios on the 2 cards (sapphire & gigabyte)
http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/920484p15161.jpg

Theorw
10-30-2009, 06:22 AM
Nice score!But aint it a bit low..My single and c2d does 10k.I mean it should be somewhere like 16,5k...Maybe put memory 1400 and clock that quad a little more like 4ghzish!!!and core @1030-1040...?

pvhk
10-30-2009, 06:36 AM
As I said running single card is easier
here's my single sapphire hd5770 on another rig
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6165/19632.jpg
http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/989533p11651.jpg
And don't ask to much to my q9400 : it's the max it can do...

SonDa5
10-30-2009, 10:36 AM
Thanks for all of your great work pvhk. :up:


I'm stumped at the performance on the Futuremark benchmarks. :shrug:


With single HD5850 I can score P18,000+ on Vantage, 24,000+ on 3dMark06 and 89,000+ on 3dMark03.


With my xfire HD4770s I can score 24,000+ on 3dMark06 and P16,000+ on Vantage.


What is going on? :(

pvhk
10-30-2009, 11:00 AM
nothing wrong, just a q9400@3.642ghz here...

SonDa5
10-30-2009, 11:05 AM
nothing wrong, just a q9400@3.642ghz here...


How do they compare to your HD4770s? :)

Mungri
10-30-2009, 03:24 PM
Very nice. :up:

What about flashed with the Sapphire?

My Sapphires are completely fine with the Asus bios, running smoothly at 1000 Mhz, 1.225v.

Before I were stuck to 960 Mhz on 1.164v.

SonDa5
10-30-2009, 03:36 PM
My Sapphires are completely fine with the Asus bios, running smoothly at 1000 Mhz, 1.225v.

Before I were stuck to 960 Mhz on 1.164v.

What method did you use for flash?
How is the performance?

Mungri
10-30-2009, 03:45 PM
What method did you use for flash?
How is the performance?

USB boot disk (required my hard drives to be unpluged), containing Atiflash and the Asus bios named 'Bios.bin'.

In startup:

C:\>atiflash -f -p 0 bios.bin

This command will force whatever you have titled 'bios.bin' to be written to the graphics card bios, so make sure you have the right one, and if it anything goes wrong, your card dies.

Vantage score at 1000 / 1250 was P17882, a little lower then my sig score because that was done at 960 / 1445. I will try a run at 1000 / 1445 some time, but cant be bothered just yet.

SonDa5
10-30-2009, 06:34 PM
USB boot disk (required my hard drives to be unpluged), containing Atiflash and the Asus bios named 'Bios.bin'.

In startup:

C:\>atiflash -f -p 0 bios.bin

This command will force whatever you have titled 'bios.bin' to be written to the graphics card bios, so make sure you have the right one, and if it anything goes wrong, your card dies.

Vantage score at 1000 / 1250 was P17882, a little lower then my sig score because that was done at 960 / 1445. I will try a run at 1000 / 1445 some time, but cant be bothered just yet.


Thank you.


Not sure how much the CPU effects your score but your Vantage score is very nice. I'm starting to think the HD5770s in Xfire can stand up to single HD5850 in the Futuremark benchmarks.

pvhk
10-31-2009, 01:15 AM
How do they compare to your HD4770s? :)

CF HD4770@1000/1100 w/asus bios:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3493/p15212.th.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/p15212.jpg/)

CF HD5770@1030/1300 w/asus bios:
http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/621408p15409.jpg (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=621408p15409.jpg)

gpu score matters...

wanky
10-31-2009, 04:17 AM
dats great big donkey crack!!! :shocked:

SonDa5
10-31-2009, 08:04 AM
gpu score matters...

Thanks again. Better but similar performance.
HD5770>HD4770 :up:

Riska
10-31-2009, 01:34 PM
It is because the drivers out that support the HDD5770 sucks

Mungri
10-31-2009, 03:15 PM
Wondering why my GPU scrore is a good 900 points then your 5770's are ... Maybe you dont set your mipmap to performance when you bench.

pvhk
10-31-2009, 04:16 PM
not the same memory clock though!
you 1445mhz
me: 1300mhz
had improve since....

Mungri
10-31-2009, 04:43 PM
not the same memory clock though!
you 1445mhz
me: 1300mhz
had improve since....

No, at 1000 / 1250, my GPU score was 16599.

At 960 / 1445 it was 16951.

So if you are running your 5770's at 1030 / 1300 on Windows 7, you shouldnt be too far off, also the difference on the ram clocked over 1300 is very small, starting off with a sharp performance decrease before it provides a tiny benefit a 1445.

Maybethe CPU is having a small impact on the GPU score, it shouldnt though.

You can see my full list of various runs at different clock frequencies here:


I got some results at last for my Xfire 5770s :)

The CPU is running at 3780 Mhz with turboboost, and the vga ram is at stock speed of 1200 Mhz in each run.

GPU @ 850 Mhz, P14690 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515397)

GPU @ 900 Mhz, P15578 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515434)

GPU @ 960 Mhz, P16124 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515465)

They seem to respond really well to GPU increases, just hope I can unlock the upper limit to 1 Ghz and up soon. I'll be increasing the ram speed next.


Keeping the GPU at 960 Mhz, and increasing the ram:

Ram @ 1250 Mhz, P16797 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515496)

Ram @ 1300 Mhz, P17020 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515511)

Performance decrease at 1350 Mhz ram - P16773 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515522) (I tried two runs, similar result both times).

Ram @ 1445 MHz, P17215 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1515580)


All the ones above were Vista ones, I forget that, and they were faster in Windows 7:

1000 / 1250: P17882 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1546785)
960 / 1445: P18168 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1521815)

SonDa5
10-31-2009, 07:14 PM
Maybe you dont set your mipma

How do you do that? :shrug:

Theorw
10-31-2009, 07:30 PM
How do you do that? :shrug:

I h emeans set the mipmap,its on catalyst and it has to do with the texture quality.Its usualy on level 4 but putting it on level 3 will giva ya 100rdmark points:P
CAN SOMEONE POST A SAPPHIRE BIOS?OR XFX???

keenan
10-31-2009, 07:46 PM
Single XFX 5770 @ 1050/1445 ..

Bios included :)

http://i38.tinypic.com/5l85mu.jpg

SonDa5
10-31-2009, 08:17 PM
Single XFX 5770 @ 1050/1445 ..

Bios included :)




45 degrees under load is sweet. :up:

SteveLord
10-31-2009, 10:17 PM
Was thinking of getting this. I will remember this thread. ;)

pvhk
11-01-2009, 12:00 AM
No, at 1000 / 1250, my GPU score was 16599.

At 960 / 1445 it was 16951.

So if you are running your 5770's at 1030 / 1300 on Windows 7, you shouldnt be too far off, also the difference on the ram clocked over 1300 is very small, starting off with a sharp performance decrease before it provides a tiny benefit a 1445.

Maybethe CPU is having a small impact on the GPU score, it shouldnt though.


thxs for reporting these discrepancies!
will check back my settings...maybe i'm cpu bound too...

SonDa5
11-01-2009, 12:31 AM
It is because the drivers out that support the HDD5770 sucks

I hope that is the problem.

Riska
11-01-2009, 04:03 AM
it is the problem these cards should be at least 20-25% faster than the HD4770 cards but they are not in some games they are slower and in vantage it is the same

Dahaka
11-01-2009, 07:44 AM
Hi guys.

I can't flash with ATI winflash on vista64 and XP ( 32bits ). The program say is no ati graphic card :S.

regards.

Riska
11-01-2009, 08:30 AM
You have to use atiflash in dos

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1650/ATIFlash_3.75.html

SonDa5
11-01-2009, 10:39 AM
it is the problem these cards should be at least 20-25% faster than the HD4770 cards but they are not in some games they are slower and in vantage it is the same



That is exactly what I have been seeing. I have been searching and searching for the performance that this card should have but it doesn't seem to have it. I have 2 HD4770s which I have ran in Xfire and I don't see any significant performance gains with HD5770.

I hope it is just a driver issue because I really wanted to get 2 HD5770s for Xfire but the performance just doesn't seem to be there yet.

Dahaka
11-02-2009, 07:09 AM
You have to use atiflash in dos

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1650/ATIFlash_3.75.html

Dammit xD.

Thanks:)

pvhk
11-02-2009, 08:45 AM
Performance issue solved in my case!
many guys over at my french thread report "cpu overclocking pb" once hd5770 is mounted! freeze/crash...They were compelled to clock down the cpu in order to run correctly the hd5770.
Changing the psu pc p&c from a 500w to a 610w did not solved the pb for me!
Partly solved by pluging-in fdd power connectors to feed further the pcie slot (a particularity on the dfi LT x48 t2rs) but totally resolved by down-clocking the fsb from 455 to 450!

SonDa5
11-02-2009, 10:46 AM
Performance issue solved in my case!
many guys over at my french thread report "cpu overclocking pb" once hd5770 is mounted! freeze/crash...They were compelled to clock down the cpu in order to run correctly the hd5770.
Changing the psu pc p&c from a 500w to a 610w did not solved the pb for me!
Partly solved by pluging-in fdd power connectors to feed further the pcie slot (a particularity on the dfi LT x48 t2rs) but totally resolved by down-clocking the fsb from 455 to 450!


Good to see progress for HD5770. :up:

pvhk
11-02-2009, 12:02 PM
So, here it is!
A mere downclocked q9400 (fsb@450) +
CF hd5770 @1010/1275
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6213/p15540.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/p15540.jpg/)
better than my previous score with my q9400@3.64ghz & CF hd5770@1030/1300:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4088889&postcount=49

SonDa5
11-02-2009, 12:08 PM
So, here it is!
A mere downclocked q9400 (fsb@450) +
CF hd5770 @1010/1275



Great work pvhk. *770 for life! :up:

Theorw
11-03-2009, 01:25 AM
Sonda pal i confirm that my card is steadier with the stock bios that the unlocked asus one...
In the beggining i could do 1040/1400 with the stock gpu clock/msi and then i flashed the unlocked and i could only do 1015/1400 stable:(
I flashed XFX no good too...Then i put yesterday stock bios bak con and i again got 1040!!!And 400+@3dmrak06!
This is specific for my card though...Other cards might still benefit from the ASUS bios so i should still try it!!!!

pvhk
11-03-2009, 01:34 AM
my sapphire works great with the asus bios: up to 1075/1350 and benching up to 1100/1350 @1.35v (to much for 24/7!)

thijs
11-03-2009, 02:01 PM
hmm, got a XFX 5770. just flashed it to asus bios, downloading the asus xp driver as we speak, cuzz xfx driver wont install. tried a bit, so far 960 ( so the max for xfx bios ) on 1.20, although i seem to get 1 fps more if i swap to 1.25 , must be the ECC thingy? or what ever it was called.

One thing is kind of strange, perhaps the asus bios fixes that, or it was something els ( the driver? ) but i cant even get a 1300mhz mem run completed, did everyone with 1400mhz mem vmod it or so? going to check what mem is on, perhaps a new batch with different mem or so? no idea yet, hope mine will do 1400 aswell though, i want to compete with it.

pvhk
11-03-2009, 02:51 PM
running mem @1400 without artifact is one thing, performance rise another!
it is possible to bench @1400 in my case, but i experienced performance drop by 1385 for the best card...

just for bench, vgpu@1.35v:
http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/684137p11777.jpg
not my best result, probably due to heat issue...
best result @1085 vgpu@1.287v
http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/86064p11781.jpg

thijs
11-03-2009, 03:04 PM
Well, tested again, 1300 worked. but 1350 fails after 3-5 seconds. hmm, odd... Tomorrow ill check what kind of mem it has, if it's the same perhaps just a bad example. ill try vmod anyway, see if it scales.

Highest 'non artifact' canyon i had was 1070 mhz, 1100 mhz finishes aswell, but at the end there are quite some dots on the screen.
and rising from 1.28 to 1.32 didnt matter anything, so i guess that's just the limit. ill try with max vcore and 100% fan tomorrow though, just to check.

Hope to put it under cold soon

Theorw
11-03-2009, 03:38 PM
Here is what kinds of vram the 5770s have.I dont knOW any card wearing ant other type that the T2C...
Mine has these and it does 1400 without v mods or anything...
Please report your batch!!!
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9318/atiradeonhd5770memoryta.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atiradeonhd5770memoryta.jpg)

oohms
11-03-2009, 04:09 PM
They should all be T2C, that is the 5 ghz rated bin

Mungri
11-03-2009, 04:11 PM
They are all T2C, rated for 1250 Mhz but mine are benchable at 1445.

nvrmind
11-04-2009, 02:06 AM
Has anyone used ATI Overdrive to overclock their 5770's in crossfire successfully?

I'm using the 9.11 beta drivers in XP x64. One card overclocks fine using overdrive, however in crossfire they do not. GPU-Z 0.3.6 shows stock clocks regardless of settings, and there is no change in 3DM06 score overclocked vs stock.

:slash:

jaredpace
11-04-2009, 02:29 AM
5700 series do seem to have nice OCing Hynix ram. why put the 1250-1300mhz samsung ram on the 5800 series, and the 1350-1450mhz hynix ram on the 5700 series. Seems like it should be the other way around.

thijs
11-04-2009, 03:35 AM
Odd, incrementing it from 1300 with steps of 10 all of the sudden did get me past 1350, im at 1370 right now, but my canyon ended 0.3 / 0.4 fps lower then at 1360, ill test some more, but i guess 1360 is my limit then. so i suppose 1070/1360 is my sweetspot, not to bad :)

Mungri
11-04-2009, 07:40 AM
5700 series do seem to have nice OCing Hynix ram. why put the 1250-1300mhz samsung ram on the 5800 series, and the 1350-1450mhz hynix ram on the 5700 series. Seems like it should be the other way around.

Maybe the Samsung is more expensive, and ATI dont pick and choose based on which ram overclocks more. But bear in mind going over 1300 Mhz sharply reduces performance, I would think that to get the same performance as you do at 1300 Mhz, you need to OC them to around 1400, before you get a tiny gain at 1445. I prefer to just keep mine at 950 / 1250 for 24/7 use, higher only for benchmarking.

I found a game that my cards fail in at 1000 Mhz though - Dragon Age Origins Character Builder, so I had to reduce them back to 950 Mhz :(

They start out fine, then start to artifact and eventually the PC crashes. Hopefully once I manage to find some suitable aftermarket coolers, they will be better.


Has anyone used ATI Overdrive to overclock their 5770's in crossfire successfully?

:slash:

Try using MSI Afterburner instead, it is far better then any other overclocking tool I have tried up to now :)

I'll take a look at my ram chips now and write down the number just to confirm what they are, brb.

Yep, they are T2C chips. I wish I could have had some ROCs instead lol.

Well, tested again, 1300 worked. but 1350 fails after 3-5 seconds. hmm, odd... Tomorrow ill check what kind of mem it has, if it's the same perhaps just a bad example. ill try vmod anyway, see if it scales.
Hope to put it under cold soon

Reminds of my X1900 xtx. I bought the xtx because it had better ram then the xt, but the one I got wouldnt overclock at all. Then my 4850's were equally as bad overclockers on the Ram, come to think of it, they were both Powercolor cards.

My Club 3Ds, Gigabyte and Sapphire cards have all had good clocking ram chips :)


Odd, incrementing it from 1300 with steps of 10 all of the sudden did get me past 1350, im at 1370 right now, but my canyon ended 0.3 / 0.4 fps lower then at 1360, ill test some more, but i guess 1360 is my limit then. so i suppose 1070/1360 is my sweetspot, not to bad :)

Yea, they will slow down at some point when increasing over 1300 Mhz, as you can see in my tests:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4072186&postcount=452

1300 would be my performance sweet spot, going any higher isnt worth it at all on my cards.

Dahaka
11-04-2009, 11:30 AM
SS at nigh, 1030 / 1350 in CFX and 3dmark 06 and 05.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12365825

nvrmind
11-04-2009, 11:39 AM
Having some issues with TF2 + Zombie Panic Source flickering with Crossfire enabled using 9.11 beta drivers with XP x64. I'll see faint horizontal lines scrolling up and down, as well as a constant flickering like I can see the screen refreshing. This happens at the title screen, as well as in game.

L4D works fine with crossfire enabled, no issues with the flickering.

Wondering if this is just an issue with the beta drivers?

Catalyst AI set to 'Standard'
Vsync Enabled

To keep somewhat on topic:

Flashed both my Sapphire cards with the Asus bios. Getting around 26,100 @ 935/1350 in 3DM06 with the rig in my sig. Haven't tried increasing vgpu yet. 935/1350 gave me 300 more points in 3DM06 over 935/1300.

BTW really liking MSI Afterburner. :surf:

pr@$r1g
11-05-2009, 02:06 AM
Having some issues with TF2 + Zombie Panic Source flickering with Crossfire enabled using 9.11 beta drivers with XP x64. I'll see faint horizontal lines scrolling up and down, as well as a constant flickering like I can see the screen refreshing. This happens at the title screen, as well as in game.

L4D works fine with crossfire enabled, no issues with the flickering.

Wondering if this is just an issue with the beta drivers?

Catalyst AI set to 'Standard'
Vsync Enabled

To keep somewhat on topic:

Flashed both my Sapphire cards with the Asus bios. Getting around 26,100 @ 935/1350 in 3DM06 with the rig in my sig. Haven't tried increasing vgpu yet. 935/1350 gave me 300 more points in 3DM06 over 935/1300.

BTW really liking MSI Afterburner. :surf:

Ur using Dx11 HD5770 cards on XP dx9

Just check the refresh rate setting & set it @ 60

thijs
11-06-2009, 06:31 AM
anyone has any idea how you can remove the limitation ( or go even higher ) with memory speeds? im limited at 1440 now, and it still seems to scale, not alot, but worth it anyhow.
Or is 1440 just the limit?

ReverendMaynard
11-06-2009, 06:51 AM
anyone has any idea how you can remove the limitation ( or go even higher ) with memory speeds? im limited at 1440 now, and it still seems to scale, not alot, but worth it anyhow.
Or is 1440 just the limit?

I just picked one up for craps and giggles, but have you tried in the AMD GPU Tool?

thijs
11-06-2009, 03:05 PM
Ah, that'll be my next victim then, thanks!
Figured out the max was 1445 btw, but that 5mhz wont help a lot :P

Next week ill be putting it under cold, hope to see the core scale and get some nice scores going.
Not sure if looking in a mem vmod is worth it, but first to check that amd tool!

ReverendMaynard
11-06-2009, 03:42 PM
Ah, that'll be my next victim then, thanks!
Figured out the max was 1445 btw, but that 5mhz wont help a lot :P

Next week ill be putting it under cold, hope to see the core scale and get some nice scores going.
Not sure if looking in a mem vmod is worth it, but first to check that amd tool!

Works well coupled with Afterburner. My card was locked out at 960 on both CCC and Afterburner but AMD GPU Tool made flashing the bios unnecessary.

Cheers,

Rev

thijs
11-07-2009, 02:56 PM
Hey rev, thanks for the tip. Amd GPU tool did work indeed!

Pretty much found the limit on air without Vmods so far,

Max memory is 1468.75 mhz ( in amd gpu tool )
and max core is 1070, 1075 is possible aswell, but some light artifacts, dont like that.

Going to see if it's worth to vmod the memory, does hynix mem scale with extra voltage anyway?
Core vmod isnt worth it yet i think, im at 1.28Vcore or so, more doesnt help, atleast not yet, perhaps under cold it will, but there is still like 0.1V extra i can give it, so ill wait with that.

//edit that's 3dmark06 im talking about, havent tried anything els yet.

BigBruiseral
11-11-2009, 02:45 AM
Is there a program to view both GPU temps and the same time please for my 5770 CF GPUz and ccc is the close but are doen boxes

Riska
11-11-2009, 11:18 AM
yes msi afterburner the 1.4 final will be up to morrow but the 1.3 works fine as well

Here is the 1.4 beta 4

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=308640

Meaker
12-04-2009, 03:14 PM
Maybe the Samsung is more expensive, and ATI dont pick and choose based on which ram overclocks more. But bear in mind going over 1300 Mhz sharply reduces performance, I would think that to get the same performance as you do at 1300 Mhz, you need to OC them to around 1400, before you get a tiny gain at 1445. I prefer to just keep mine at 950 / 1250 for 24/7 use, higher only for benchmarking.

I found a game that my cards fail in at 1000 Mhz though - Dragon Age Origins Character Builder, so I had to reduce them back to 950 Mhz :(

They start out fine, then start to artifact and eventually the PC crashes. Hopefully once I manage to find some suitable aftermarket coolers, they will be better.



Try using MSI Afterburner instead, it is far better then any other overclocking tool I have tried up to now :)

I'll take a look at my ram chips now and write down the number just to confirm what they are, brb.

Yep, they are T2C chips. I wish I could have had some ROCs instead lol.


Reminds of my X1900 xtx. I bought the xtx because it had better ram then the xt, but the one I got wouldnt overclock at all. Then my 4850's were equally as bad overclockers on the Ram, come to think of it, they were both Powercolor cards.

My Club 3Ds, Gigabyte and Sapphire cards have all had good clocking ram chips :)



Yea, they will slow down at some point when increasing over 1300 Mhz, as you can see in my tests:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4072186&postcount=452

1300 would be my performance sweet spot, going any higher isnt worth it at all on my cards.

Thermalright v2, keeps an overvolted 1ghz HD 4770 below 50C load. :clap:

pvhk
12-05-2009, 03:16 AM
meaker,
a shot of your modded 5770? thxs:)

Meaker
12-05-2009, 06:32 PM
I am afraid that was not a typo, I am actually pretty happy with the stock cooler. The cooling results were on the 4770s I had.

Running vantage I was reaching 86C at 58% fan speed running 1025/1400 at 1.25v.

I run it at 1000/1400 at 1.23v and its happy in L4D2 at least.

pvhk
12-06-2009, 12:59 AM
meaker,
86°C is damned high...:eek:
I'm going to check myself but i'm sure i will not hit this temp. fan@58%

Meaker
12-06-2009, 02:13 PM
I have just removed the stock cooler and applied some zalman thermal paste and dropped the temps down to 81C (1025/1400 1.25v).

It is sitting next to the radiator and since its cold atm in scotland its on full blast so its having an affect on my temps.

pvhk
12-07-2009, 01:34 AM
IMO, those gpu temperatures discrepancy tend to show that gpu core are not equal in term of heat dissipation, and it has nothing to do with V1 or V2 cooler:
my sapphire @1.25v 1050/1350 w/ fan @58% hits 74°C
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb261/pvhk/p11527.jpg

Meaker
12-07-2009, 06:04 AM
Or the temperature diodes are badly calibrated lol.

pvhk
12-07-2009, 07:08 AM
don't think so 'cause if it was the case how would one explain that my sapphire for instance can bench @1100/1350 vgpu@1.35v...

Meaker
12-07-2009, 09:23 AM
Because every chip is different, one can run hotter and yet run at higher clocks. Just look at the difference between the C0 and D0 I7 920.

TAViX
12-16-2009, 06:27 AM
Hey guys. One question. I have an 5770 Vapor-X, I save the bios with GPU-Z, imported in Radeon Bios Editor 1.22 and modified some settings for max occ. using clock tuning wizard (1050 GPU/ 1300 RAM/ 1.272 voltage). I also used, in "Additional features" - "Method 2 - No hash" for upper limit GPU 1200Mhz\ Upper limit RAM 1500Mhz. Please tell me if is possible to flash the bios using the current settings. I heard and also read in here that there might be some problems with the RBE and to kill my card. Thank you in advance for advices.

Riska
12-16-2009, 11:17 AM
this will not work you wont be able to load any catalyst driver for the card because you have moved the upper limit for ccc overdrive your self then the driver say it is a no go

TAViX
12-16-2009, 08:32 PM
this will not work you wont be able to load any catalyst driver for the card because you have moved the upper limit for ccc overdrive your self then the driver say it is a no go

OK, so if I leave unaltered the upper limits in "Additional features", and only modify the voltage and frequency for the GPU/RAM, should I be ok? :confused:

Riska
12-17-2009, 06:58 AM
yes that should be ok

Astennu
12-17-2009, 12:41 PM
I tried this bios on a Club3D 5770 V2. Stock volts 950-1350 possible. But voltage adjustment with afterburner is not working. I used a multimeter but its still stock 1.14-1.16v load while i did set 1.2v.

Anyone here that has succes with afterburner and a V2 ?

trt740
12-17-2009, 02:15 PM
I tried this bios on a Club3D 5770 V2. Stock volts 950-1350 possible. But voltage adjustment with afterburner is not working. I used a multimeter but its still stock 1.14-1.16v load while i did set 1.2v.

Anyone here that has succes with afterburner and a V2 ?

try asus smart doctor

Astennu
12-19-2009, 04:20 AM
try asus smart doctor

Yeah i know that would work but i hate that tool its awful !!

snoro
12-22-2009, 12:13 AM
Need a bit of help, its my first time flashing the bios of a gpu and i tried alot of thing i found with google search result to switch to asus bios on my xfx hd 5770 but none did worked. Always got some weird errors no one else got. COuld someone help me plz. Would love to make this card be able to stretch its real muscle and go in the 1hz core territory.

Asmola
12-22-2009, 12:40 AM
Hey, i bought two HIS 5770's but these seems to be with HIS's own PCB and ofcourse, these are CCC-limited and Asus bios wont work with these.
If i try to oc with MSI Afterburner (EnableUnofficialOverclocking =1) my system freezes if i raise gpu clocks. So that wont work either.
AMD GPU Clock Tool wont even recognise my cards. This is very disappointing cause i can hit 960MHz with stock volts which are also bigger than
normally, stock volt for these are 1.2v. Any ideas how to achieve more clocks to these? And these have only one Crossfire connecter also!;)
http://www.jimmspc-store.fi/images/full/Jimms_H577FM1GD_0.jpg

snoro, if you have this card you might have same problem as i have, that's with different pcb also..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150462

snoro
12-22-2009, 09:45 AM
no i have a v1 xfx card.

edit, did a bit more searching and found that you can enable unofficial overclocking in msi afterburner that go past the bios limit. I am now running at 1ghz core 1.35 ghz memory at 1.25v with only 2c more of max temp at full load.

You just have to open the config file of arterburner and change the unofficial overclocking value from 0 to 1 and you are good. Dont need to flash the bios.

the only drawback is you lose powerplay and that mean it never get into its idle mode so if you bought it for the power saving, the afterburner unofficial trick is not a good idea for you.

Asmola
12-22-2009, 11:44 AM
No, that's not working with my cards. Instant freeze when i try to overclock with unofficial enabled.

snoro
12-22-2009, 01:24 PM
maybe you try a bit too much ? i was able to get 1050 core and 1400 memory with no problem at 1.25v with no error in furmark stability test and temp never higher than 60c. pvhk and bhavy could help you a bit more for crossfire overclocking. Have you tried asus smart doctor ? it could be more easy with that.

Asmola
12-22-2009, 02:07 PM
No matter how much i oc with Afterburner when unofficial overclocking is enabled, it freezes system anyway, even when downclocking.
With unofficial disabled i can oc core's to 960 (limit) without problem.

Riska
12-22-2009, 05:00 PM
use the amdgputool

Asmola
12-23-2009, 02:17 AM
AMD Gpu Clock Toop didnt work either, but i solved my problem! Cause of that was 9.12 Hotfix drivers and ULPS.
When i chanced "EnableULPS" register from "1" to "0" with regedit and rebooted, now i can overclock these cards over the CCC-limits
with MSI Afterburner!:) Second cards fancontrol didnt work either, but no it does! Perhaps this could help someone else also!
That's with Windows 7. Good luck guys!

Asmola
12-23-2009, 07:15 AM
So, i got overclocked these cards but when i tested these with 1.27v, another cards temps raised 80c under unigine heaven!!
So i desided to reseat coolers and added new pastes for both, also inserted heatsinks to mems.
Temps dropped more than 25c!!! Here some results with 1.3v/980MHz! Unigine really stresses gpu's to their limit!
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00415/5448900.png

It was GPU2 which had over 80c temps, and reason was cause HIS was inserted way too much thermalpaste!
Cooler didnt even touch the chip it self. So this "modding" was absolutely worth it!:)

Here pics from my cards with memsinks.
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00880/5448986.jpg

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00988/5449006.jpg

snoro
12-24-2009, 03:30 AM
good to know since i might be thinking of getting a asus v1 card and do crossfire in maybe 1 or 2 month when i have finished paying everything on credit card that i bought for the computer or christmas.

Zeus
12-27-2009, 08:59 AM
I just ordered 2 sapphire 5770 cards and 2 EK fullcoverblocks to keep them cool. :)

I'd like to know if i need to flash this bios on the Sapphire cards (V1 cooler) or is the Sapphire bios good enough for 1200 CCC limit?

snoro
12-27-2009, 09:12 AM
just change the enableunofficialoverclocking value from 0 to 1 and get the 9.12 hot fix for crossfire and you should be good

Zeus
12-27-2009, 10:12 AM
Thanks, just changed the value already and am now at 1200 limit for my current 4870.

Can't wait for the 5770's. :)

tbone8ty
01-07-2010, 09:30 AM
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57750

heres a good guide for flashing using atiflash

edit: apparently not me haha :p

tbone8ty
01-07-2010, 04:27 PM
so im having trouble flashing my 5770

so i fallowed the above link directions ( http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57750 ) formatted the usb stick and put the atiflash 3.79, and asusunlockedbios.bin on it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2684/4255486018_e9618cf978_o.png

then i boot from sub stick and at the command i type

c>atiflash -p 0 asusunlockedbios.bin

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2694/4255506310_c9b38677e9.jpg


what am i doing wrong?

Nanok
01-07-2010, 08:01 PM
You have to force the flash with this command

-f -p 0 asusunlockedbios.bin

tbone8ty
01-07-2010, 08:26 PM
ok i formated usb stick again using just FAT not FAT32 and unchecked quick format...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4255977482_11243e3ee5_o.png

then typed atiflash -f -p 0 asusunlockedbios.bin

nothing...im assuming im supposed to have the spaces and use "zero" correct?

i will recheck boot files....

tbone8ty
01-07-2010, 08:43 PM
quote from techpowerupforums #15 Novey

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57750



Got it!

Download this HPUSBFW_BOOTFILES.zip
http://www.4shared.com/file/43544416...FILES.html?s=1

Format usb key with these files, don't check Quick format and select FAT file system.

copy ATIFlash and the bios on the key after the format then reboot.
boot on USB Key and type: atiflash -f -p 0 nameofbios.xxx

did this and...

edit:
ok new bootfiles seem to work, i did atiflash -i 0 and it recognized my videocard...
edit:
ok succesful flash! wow finally!!! jeez haha

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2798/4255307791_f067b63640_b.jpg

CCC showing limits of 1200/1445 now

ok now i can go on to testing ;p

tbone8ty
01-08-2010, 02:34 PM
ok passed furmark and ran heaven benchmark @ 1000/1200 @ 1.2v

setup a fan profile so temps dont go past 70-71c

sweet!

------------------

ok just a quick review/heads up....

download boot files for usb stick from here:

http://www.4shared.com/file/43544416...FILES.html?s=1



.

Zeus
01-20-2010, 11:33 AM
Right, flashed this bios this afternoon on both my Sapphire HD 5770's --flawless!

Finally got rid of a multitude of aggravating problems AfterBurner gave me after i changed "EnableUnofficialOverclocking" to "1" in the cfg file.

Problems like system hanging after making changes in AB, resetting only one card to default values or only applying settings to 1 card, etc.

The cards now clock over the 960 limit without a hicup. :)

I flashed the cards in crossfire config like this:

atifflash -f -p 0 unlock.bin then reboot with ctrl+alt+del, boot into windows, new device found. :) Checking with GPU-Z, yes, Asus bios.

Back into dos, typing this command: atiflash -f -p 1 unlock.bin , reboot, same thing...done!

Change the biosname to something short, "asus unlock bios.bin" was too long and not recognized by Atiflash. I named it "unlock.bin"

I ran 3 dm 06 at 1070/1350 this afternoon with 1.35V on both cards, watercooled. :cool:

My cards have Samsung memorychips, they max around 1350-1360MHz, i think the Hynix is much better.

tbone8ty
01-20-2010, 07:27 PM
what does "EnableUnofficialOverclocking" changed from "0" to "1" do?

tbone8ty
01-20-2010, 07:56 PM
no i have a v1 xfx card.

edit, did a bit more searching and found that you can enable unofficial overclocking in msi afterburner that go past the bios limit. I am now running at 1ghz core 1.35 ghz memory at 1.25v with only 2c more of max temp at full load.

You just have to open the config file of arterburner and change the unofficial overclocking value from 0 to 1 and you are good. Dont need to flash the bios.

the only drawback is you lose powerplay and that mean it never get into its idle mode so if you bought it for the power saving, the afterburner unofficial trick is not a good idea for you.

ah ok i get it, i flashed my bios so i dont need to do this.

-------------------------

i did notice when i run default settings (no OC) in MSI afterburner it runs at 400/1200 or 400/900 when im in the desktop and rarely drops to 157/300

but when i overclock in MSI afterburner (1000/1300/1.25v) it runs most of the time at 157/300, hence the stutter and lines when im in the desktop(2D mode)

weird...

anybody experience this?

Zeus
01-20-2010, 11:22 PM
what does "EnableUnofficialOverclocking" changed from "0" to "1" do?

It enables you to go over the 960MHz CCC core limit.

c64
02-26-2010, 12:33 PM
I bought a sapphire card second hand came pre flashed with the asus bios and have problems.
In 3d mode the gpu clocks are stuck at 600 mhz and 1200 mhz memory no matter what I try even tried a reformat of win7 all sorts of drivers.

It's a real shame as I would have loved to have kept this card looks like not many with this type of cooler were made.
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p372/c64ocuk/11163-02_HD5770_1GBGDDR5_PCIE_C03.jpg?t=1267216678


http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p372/c64ocuk/Capture-7.jpg?t=1267111694
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p372/c64ocuk/Capture-6.jpg?t=1267111490
Anyone had a similar problem ? did a bit of googling and found a few people that had this 600mhz problem on stock cards but cant find any solutions.

snoro
02-26-2010, 05:52 PM
that mean you got one of the wrong bios saphirre vapor-x hd5770. To solve that problem, you have to flash your bios to a normal one or you can just simply already get the asus unlocked one. It will sert back you stock spec at 850core and 1250mem and you will have unlimited overclocking limit.

c64
02-26-2010, 06:00 PM
It has the asus unlocked bios on there.The stock for this card is 850/1200 it's not a vapor x.

Royalk
02-26-2010, 07:40 PM
Hey guys, I have a XFX 5770 rev 1 stock cooler. I use MSI afterburner to try 990MHz-1035MHz with 1.2V-1.35V voltage but it freezes after a few seconds when I running 3dmark 06 and vantage, it could not be stable even I bump the voltage to 1.35V and seems to get even unstable. I have tried my memory clock at stock 1200MHz and up to 1485MHz and I think it's not because of the memory. Also the load temp never goes up to 65C. Is my chip really a defective one? I can only pass 3dmark 06 on max clock at 985MHz, I also passed 3dmark 06 on 960MHz core on stock voltage (1.125V).

MarkJohnson
04-30-2010, 12:03 AM
I have flashed this unlocked BIOS to my Powercolor 5770 PCS+ with success. However, I still can't enable the voltage control. I select enable voltage control in afterburner, but still nothing.

Is this feature disabled by Powercolor? Do I need to do something else to enable it?

-=Mark=-

Mask
08-20-2010, 03:21 AM
:rolleyes: