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doox00
09-20-2009, 06:55 AM
Which is the best i7 block out now? I have not looked into wc stuff since I completed my i7 build/wc setup right after release of i7. I am using a DD cpu block atm.

thanks all

Kylzer
09-20-2009, 06:59 AM
I've seen some people @ 230 or more

i can only boot @ 218 :(

rjkoneill
09-20-2009, 07:03 AM
depends on what you want

flowrate? good temps? best quality? aesthetics?

my favorite few:

1.EK Supreme
2.Heatkiller 3.0
3.Swiftech GTZ

there is a review thread here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=224976&highlight=waterblock) which should give you some useful info

millertime359
09-20-2009, 07:04 AM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=224976

HK 3.0 is the best at the moment. HK 3.0 CU (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/heatkiller1366.html) and HK 3.0 LT (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/heatkillerlt1366.html) are the same block, just a shinier top.

If money is an issue to you, the Enzotech Sapphire (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835708019&cm_re=enzotech_sapphire_rev._a-_-35-708-019-_-Product) isn't a bad deal for $35.00.

Razer(x)
09-20-2009, 07:07 AM
The best cpu block is the YBRIS BLACK SUN, coming soon ;) (i have the beta version)

Fafeifa
09-20-2009, 07:14 AM
I've seen some people @ 230 or more

i can only boot @ 218 :(

:rofl::ROTF: That was a good one :clap:

Asylum1
09-20-2009, 07:26 AM
+1 for the Enzotech Sapphire
It has good performance for a good price.
The same block i have.

Razer(x)
09-20-2009, 07:38 AM
Check this out

http://www.pctuner.net/forum/tuner-waterblock/118371-black-sun-riservato-ai-tester.html

Razer(x)
09-20-2009, 07:41 AM
Double post, sorry

Vapor
09-20-2009, 07:46 AM
Check this out

http://www.pctuner.net/forum/tuner-waterblock/118371-black-sun-riservato-ai-tester.htmlBeen looking at that the past 30 minutes or so...my Italian is a little rough (interpolating Latin and Spanish :down: ), but the performance looks pretty damn good :D

Does Ybris have an English website? Any other postings about Black Sun to read? :)

Razer(x)
09-20-2009, 08:30 AM
Been looking at that the past 30 minutes or so...my Italian is a little rough (interpolating Latin and Spanish :down: ), but the performance looks pretty damn good :D

Does Ybris have an English website? Any other postings about Black Sun to read? :)

Yes, it's really good and fashioned (italians do it better :)) but no, there's no other postings 'cause the BS is still in beta (version five)

If somebody needs help can contact me :)

However there is no english site, but if you need i could translate to ya the words you need :yepp:

faster3200
09-20-2009, 08:39 AM
my Italian is a little rough (interpolating Latin and Spanish :down: )

Ha! I did the same thing.

Here (http://www.pchs.it/News/Dissipatori/dissipatore-a-liquido-ybris-eclipse-black-sun.html) are some pics. Supposedly this block cools around or slightly better than the HK 3.0 while being less restrictive. From what I can gather it is a tweaked Eclipse. This is all speculation or marketing.

Other than that I found a lot of release dates. The ones that make the most sense are November-October.

Razer(x)
09-20-2009, 08:49 AM
Ha! I did the same thing.

Here (http://www.pchs.it/News/Dissipatori/dissipatore-a-liquido-ybris-eclipse-black-sun.html) are some pics. Supposedly this block cools around or slightly better than the HK 3.0 while being less restrictive. From what I can gather it is a tweaked Eclipse. This is all speculation or marketing.

Other than that I found a lot of release dates. The ones that make the most sense are November-October.

Wait, this isn't the Black Sun, the one of the link is ONLY a black version of the Eclipse :)

kgk
09-20-2009, 08:52 AM
Check this out

http://www.pctuner.net/forum/tuner-waterblock/118371-black-sun-riservato-ai-tester.html

And? My HK 3.0 kept my i7 @ 4.0 around 65C as well. What's the big deal? :confused:

faster3200
09-20-2009, 09:24 AM
Wait, this isn't the Black Sun, the one of the link is ONLY a black version of the Eclipse :)

Nope, it is the Black Sun. It clearly says so on the block.
I found multiple new sites with these images on them so I don't think it is a prank.


And? My HK 3.0 kept my i7 @ 4.0 around 65C as well. What's the big deal? :confused:

You can't directly compare results.

Hondacity
09-20-2009, 09:33 AM
when is skinnee coming out with his tests? :D

Razer(x)
09-20-2009, 09:49 AM
Nope, it is the Black Sun. It clearly says so on the block.
I found multiple new sites with these images on them so I don't think it is a prank.

Ok so, i have the Black Sun in my pc, i know if it's the one of the link or not :up: the REAL Black Sun is still under NDA

faster3200
09-20-2009, 10:49 AM
Ok so, i have the Black Sun in my pc, i know if it's the one of the link or not :up: the REAL Black Sun is still under NDA

Really? Odd those pics are everywhere. I guess that would make sense though. I was wondering why that thread with tests didn't have any pics of it.

Razer(x)
09-20-2009, 10:52 AM
Really? Odd those pics are everywhere. I guess that would make sense though. I was wondering why that thread with tests didn't have any pics of it.

Yeah man :p:

Johnmark
09-20-2009, 11:34 AM
Which is the best i7 block out now? I have not looked into wc stuff since I completed my i7 build/wc setup right after release of i7. I am using a DD cpu block atm.

thanks all

You where given the link the the latest tests of i7 blocks, the "best"
is where it becomes fuzzy :) If you have an unlimited budget and access to ALL the various product, then the best is always the lowest temp. with the highest flow. But as can be attested by users here we all run various blocks depending on a host of personal issue's. There will ALWAYS be another "best" just around the corner. Do you need the best? Is 1c-2c difference on the CPU a big deal, I don't think so. So for me it's a balance of what products I can get (geographically) and for what cost.
I'm currently running very old technology with the Fusion v2 and it is working fine, and I could buy it in Canada without bankrupting the bank. Having said that I will be ugrading with my newer rig (this one is 5 weeks old lol). And will be going with an Enzotech Sapphire or Heatkiller depending on what I can get without spending excess cash getting the thing to my doorstep.
I like millertime359's response.

lesstutrey
09-20-2009, 04:07 PM
enzotech sapphire is about the best block out there, behind the hk 3.0. Add it's not just a difference of a shiney top or not with the LT version of the HK, all copper body makes a difference. I'd go with sapphire due to bang for buck, prefer it to my GTZ.

Equinediver
09-20-2009, 04:23 PM
If you google YBRIS BLACK SUN it will list several links with the word 'translate' next to it.

I was reading up on it earlier, translation works pretty well ;)

Block definately looks interesting, needs to get in Skinnee's lab!

doox00
09-20-2009, 04:33 PM
I am overall fine with the dd block but temps are not as good as other blocks I have seen reviews on. I suppose 3-4c is not really enough to worry about it. I also have my two 260's in the same loop as cpu.. idle is around 38-42c on cpu, depends on which core you are looking at, loads in the 70's if I am remembering right.. have not done a test on it since I put it all together.

jcool
09-20-2009, 04:35 PM
Best performance - HK 3,0 CU.

Best bang for buck - HK LT, Ek Supreme LT, or that Sapphire for you US folks.

millertime359
09-20-2009, 05:28 PM
Best performance - HK 3,0 CU.

Best bang for buck - HK LT, Ek Supreme LT, or that Sapphire for you US folks.

HK LT and HK CU are same block, just different top. I think you are referring to the HK LC for your bang for buck.

jcool
09-20-2009, 05:46 PM
Naw the LC is 2-3C worse than the CU, but has better flow due to different interior. CU is still better than the LT, if only by 1 degree.

Vapor
09-20-2009, 05:53 PM
If the Cu is better than the LT, it's by ~.1C. To even get that much of a difference, it would require significantly cooler air (relative to water temps) moving over the block (which is not always true in an enclosed case--often the opposite is true right around the CPU socket). There's just so little internal and external surface area for the material to make a difference.

jcool
09-20-2009, 06:03 PM
Ok, if you say so. Not what I read tho.

millertime359
09-20-2009, 06:08 PM
Ok, if you say so. Not what I read tho.

I think I saw one person claim a degree of difference with a 120mm fan pointed directly at the block. Most see what Vapor says, fractions of a degree. Most certainly not worth the extra cost unless you want to nickel plate it.

jcool
09-20-2009, 06:13 PM
As always there are a ton of different reviews out there that all contradict with each other, as usual. But then again, most of them claim the HK is still king, and that's what my experience shows as well (I got a GTX, GTZ, and EK Supremes as well). I didn't do a proper comparison tho...

error404
09-20-2009, 06:28 PM
does anyone have any experience with the Aqua Computer cuplex XT diČ ??
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/aqcocuxtdido1.html

from the pics, looks pretty cool :shrug:

edit- I just found this =
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=224976

A couple of posts down :)