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AzraelDarkangel

09-18-2009, 10:16 AM

I have an obsession with cell phones since there seems to be a convergence between personal (portable) computers and cell phones happening. It's really exciting to me since I'm very much in favor of all-in-one portable devices and I find that most of you guys tend to be behind the curve a bit on the latest tech even though it's closely related to computers. Part of the reason for that being that most people don't realize all the phones that are available unlocked from overseas, they only see what's available through the local carriers. USA carriers in particular are rather horrid compared to much of Europe and especially Asia. I applaud the iPhone for giving the needed push to start bringing demand for the more advanced tech to US carriers. First a word on software before I show you the hardware:

Windows Mobile:
The more popular "business" software along with Blackberry's OS. Older versions were considered clunky and less ideal (particularly after the iPhone came out). The newer 6.5 version is said to be much better and it's becoming more mainstream, still it's facing alot of competition from upcoming OS's like Google Android. Windows has the advantage of being a well developed OS with lots of programs available. It's a very mature OS with multitouch and other advanced features coming soon.

Google Android:
Considered by many to be designed as direct competition to iPhones growing monopoly. It has an app based system that is similar and growing fast (over 10,000 now!) but was very underdeveloped when it first came out. It has alot of potential and growing fast but faces fierce competition from iPhones massive momentum. It's considered by many to be close but not quite as good as Apples interface. However it's closing the gap quickly and being adopted by handset manufacturers at a fast pace.

WebOS:
First out on the Palm Pre it's considered by some to actually have a superior interface to Apple's (ex Apple engineers on the dev team) however it lacks the momentum due to it's limited popularity and has very few apps at this time. It's only available on one handset and soon coming out on a second entry level model (Palm Pixie). The hardware lacks the flash (look at me and my huge screen!) That other handset manufactures are coming out with. It's small and easy to pass up at first glance, the Pixie is even smaller and more basic. Both are nice phones though if you have smaller hands and don't need alot of super advanced extra features.

Sybian OS:
Used primarily by Nokia, has alot of free apps available and is fairly mature but isn't as pretty as some other OS's. Still it seems to be a good OS and is making a nice transition to the touchscreen phones. Doesn't seem to be competing as fiercely for top dog place but is doing fairly well on several handsets and particularly the Nokia 5800, N97 and Samsung Omnia HD.

Maemo5:
I'm very excited about this, it's coming out on Nokia's N900 which is pretty much a full fledged computer with slide out keyboard. Maemo is well developed having been used on Nokia previous N810 and before that as "Internet Tablet OS". It's based on Debian Linux which is very well developed. Most linux based apps are free and open.

Blackberry OS:
Still popular but falling behind in both software and hardware tech compared to the others available. Blackberry needs to advance quickly before all their momentum is stolen.

Hardware:

HTC Pro 3 (Leo) (http://www.gsmarena.com/more_images_of_the_htc_pro_three_aka_leo_surfaced_-news-1131.php)

Also here (http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/18/htc-leo-windows-mobile-6-5-slate-is-capacitive-pictured-from-ba/)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/AzraelDarkangel/htc_leo_diamond.jpg

ITG xpPhone runs Windows XP (http://www.gsmarena.com/itg_xpphone_runs_windows_xp_can_be_preordered_now-news-1130.php)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/AzraelDarkangel/gsmarena_001.jpg

http://www.slashgear.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-x3-android-phone-to-drop-in-january-2010-1757163/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/AzraelDarkangel/sony_ericsson_xpera_x3_1-540x392.jpg

Nokia N900 (http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n900-2917.php)

http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/AzraelDarkangel/nokia-n900_003.jpg

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/02/lg-bl40-chocolate-touch-hands-on/

Sony Ericsson Satio (http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_satio_(idou)-2683.php)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/AzraelDarkangel/se-idou-001.jpg

http://www.gsmarena.com/43inch_archos_tablet_runs_android_has_1ghz_cpu-news-1126.php

http://androidcommunity.com/archos-phone-tablet-upcoming-android-smartphonepmp-hybrid-20090916/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/AzraelDarkangel/archos_phone_tablet_slashgear_0-600.jpg

zanzabar

09-18-2009, 02:26 PM

AzraelDarkangel

09-19-2009, 03:02 PM

im personally waiting for the snapdragon+winmo7+720p screen that should be out next year and then having my home server08r2 system with a remote client. i also wish that adobe would have kept flash mobile in development now its an OEM and adobe locked down program that is intended to replace .net and not for the internet (u would think that affter they bought macromedia they would have made flash better but no)

i got the incite since it was a free upgrade from att and i dont want data so if i wanted a subsidized phone i would have to get it before the 6th, its a nice little phone and winmo is so great, especially the garmen gps and remote desktop and sky browser getting iphone users to want winmo

The Arm Cortex A9 should be out sometime next year too, running up close to 2GHZ. The Nvidia Tegra is good too (used in the Zune 2) but falling behind the latest and greatest, I've heard generation 2 is in the works.

In the next few years I can see desktop systems slowly dying away becoming a nich product for hardcore gamers/overclockers and CG artists and laptops pretty much taking over with All-in-one Smartphones being more mainstream for portable devices for anyone who doesn't need to do alot of typing, essentially taking the place of alot of laptops when you are on the go. Already you can play games like Crysis by using the services of certain companies who offload the graphics processing to their own servers and stream it to your phone. So the only issue really being screen size and typing comfort/speed. If those issues are solved I see regular laptops dying off as well. You can already use a folding bluetooth keyboard and mouse with some phones. You can also buy small sleek sunglasses with built in display that overlaps a large display image to compensate for the phones 3-4" display if you want something bigger.

wondergod

09-19-2009, 03:12 PM

I'll always rock a Blackberry for work but as a secondary the Omnia2 on Verizon, especially since its getting a WinMo 6.5 refresh. I've been quite disappointed with HTC phones as of late.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/15/samsung-omnia-ii-now-official-amoled-touchscreen-with-touchwiz/

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/samsung-announces-omnia-pro-b7330-spills-winmo-6-5-plans-for-en/

Russian

09-19-2009, 03:50 PM

The Leo and the Xperia look siiick.

m0da

09-19-2009, 04:21 PM

I've noticed the same thing at gsmarena with these netbook-cell phone hybrids. They are literally merging into one now.

So, now I'm confused. Should I buy the N900, or wait a bit longer for the A9 to pop into its successor and snatch that? I guess I'll wait now. Maybe something even better will be coming out!! One major point I'm looking for is the 1700mhz 3g band, so once I see the 3g bands on all the phones I can make my decision.

I hate playing this waiting game. But, I can finally start to see the netbook and cell phone/smartphone world merging into one! ahhhhhh (in an awesome context)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Machinus

09-20-2009, 11:21 AM

When is my wifi-only phone coming out? I really don't care about all these data services. Give me opera and skype that work perfectly on a wifi-phone and I'll buy.

Russian

09-21-2009, 12:59 AM

LaMpiR

09-21-2009, 07:10 AM

In December I will be getting Satio ;) I think that N900 will be overpriced...

WaterFlex

09-21-2009, 09:40 AM

pffff, useless phones. I have Moto Z10 and i`m happy

benko

09-22-2009, 04:17 AM

I have heard about tegra really good impresions..it is fast and it doesent use too much power :)

and if you want to overclock qualcom (http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/09/07/nueOverClockTest.aspx)524MHz cpu enjoy and tell results

And i am waiting for winmo 7..it should be revolution :)

[XC] leviathan18

09-22-2009, 09:17 AM

n900 pre ordered here

itznfb

09-22-2009, 09:29 AM

N900 looks pretty sweet. Anyone know if it will be available on Verizon? I currently use a Blackberry at work but I'm going to be starting another business so I need to get a personal phone again =\

AzraelDarkangel

09-22-2009, 02:55 PM

In December I will be getting Satio ;) I think that N900 will be overpriced...

N900 will be cheaper then the ($600 vs $800) Satio and more flexible with applications and programs since is essentially a full fledged computer. The Satio has a better camera and some nifty features though, just depends on what you like.

AzraelDarkangel

09-22-2009, 03:00 PM

itznfb;4027403']N900 looks pretty sweet. Anyone know if it will be available on Verizon? I currently use a Blackberry at work but I'm going to be starting another business so I need to get a personal phone again =\

Lol, the US phone carriers don't get the latest phones usually. They hate to innovate, it costs them money because they have to upgrade their aging phone lines to handle the load of all the new smartphones coming out. They also don't like phones with WiFi because they can't charge for something that's free. Even Russia has had 4G out for awhile now. Japan and South Korea are many years ahead of us along with many parts of Europe.

LaMpiR

09-22-2009, 03:01 PM

N900 will be cheaper then the ($600 vs $800) Satio and more flexible with applications and programs since is essentially a full fledged computer. The Satio has a better camera and some nifty features though, just depends on what you like.

Didn't know that. I will be getting one around christmas.
I like more Satio actually, there are times when I just need good camera on my phone :) And it isn't oversized or anything.

tiro_uspsss

09-22-2009, 03:19 PM

I wants N900 :D

itznfb

09-22-2009, 05:57 PM

Lol, the US phone carriers don't get the latest phones usually. They hate to innovate, it costs them money because they have to upgrade their aging phone lines to handle the load of all the new smartphones coming out. They also don't like phones with WiFi because they can't charge for something that's free. Even Russia has had 4G out for awhile now. Japan and South Korea are many years ahead of us along with many parts of Europe.

Even so the specs show it being 3G compatible. There's no technical reason why it wouldn't be available. Contractual reason however I'm not sure.

m0da

09-22-2009, 06:09 PM

The Nokia N900 has only been on Amazon for a few days, but that doesn’t stop the online superstore from lowering the price already. It started at $649, dropped to $589, and now for preorder at $583. I can’t find it anywhere else for a lower price.

http://thenokiablog.com/2009/09/20/nokia-n900-price-drops/

AzraelDarkangel

09-22-2009, 08:47 PM

itznfb;4028099']Even so the specs show it being 3G compatible. There's no technical reason why it wouldn't be available. Contractual reason however I'm not sure.

There are a ton of awesome phones that are compatible with at least AT&T and T-Mobile, go browse some of the phones listed on GSMArena (http://www.gsmarena.com/) you can find most of them for sale on such sites as MobileCity (http://www.mobilecityonline.com/). You can still buy them unlocked and use them with either carrier. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA frequencies not compatible with other parts of the world so you can't use them.

Anubis13

09-27-2009, 01:29 AM

I like the HTC Leo,but i think that if Sony Ericsson sells Satio for a lower price (100-200$) than HTC does,it will have more sells.I would go for it!!

MINIz guy

09-27-2009, 08:08 AM

AzraelDarkangel

09-27-2009, 12:43 PM

I like the N900, but all of those phones are out of my price range. I've recently bought a Nokia 5530 XpressMusic, which is a big step up from my non-AT&T supported Sony Ericsson K800i. I did take a big hit in camera quality moving up to the Nokia 5530, but the rest of the features make it worth it.

Nokias usually have some of the best cameras but I've been disapointed with their more recent phones as far as the camera goes. Keep in mind I'm going by the many reviews I've read and not personal experience. The Nokia N82 from a few years ago is still one of the best cameraphones you can buy, particularly for low light and night time with it's Xenon flash and it still had VGA 30fps video. It seemed like they stopped innovating much after that and even stopped using a Xenon flash. The latest Nokia's aren't much better in picture quality and are worse in low light, the only standout recently being the N86.

zanzabar

09-27-2009, 06:25 PM

behold the power of amd on the leo (or what was amd a year ago, looks like they should have kept the snapdragon)
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=8348

jstutman

09-27-2009, 07:55 PM

itznfb

09-28-2009, 11:19 AM

There are a ton of awesome phones that are compatible with at least AT&T and T-Mobile, go browse some of the phones listed on GSMArena (http://www.gsmarena.com/) you can find most of them for sale on such sites as MobileCity (http://www.mobilecityonline.com/). You can still buy them unlocked and use them with either carrier. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA frequencies not compatible with other parts of the world so you can't use them.

It's still hard to shop for these. I'd like to find a phone that can replace the need for a netbook, while being a capable phone and mp3 player. I guess I would consider going with AT&T but I would prefer to stick with Verizon. Especially since I can now get a great 2 year deal for Fios + Mobile

AzraelDarkangel

09-28-2009, 01:35 PM

itznfb;4037466']It's still hard to shop for these. I'd like to find a phone that can replace the need for a netbook, while being a capable phone and mp3 player. I guess I would consider going with AT&T but I would prefer to stick with Verizon. Especially since I can now get a great 2 year deal for Fios + Mobile

Just wait a few months, the phones available through American carriers are improving fast. I know buying an unlocked phone of that type is really expensive, although when you buy that same phone through a carrier is much cheaper they often force you to buy an expensive data plan so it can cost you more in the long run. It really depends on wether you need 3g or can rely alot on local WiFi. My town has alot of WiFi hotspots all over so I don't really need to pay extra for a data plan with 3G which is why I want to buy an unlocked phone that's WiFi capable and just subscribe to a cheap voice plan. If you need/want 3G you might as well buy one through the carriers. Verizon and AT&T have the best coverage but also have the more expensive plans, with T-mobile coming in a tad cheaper and Sprint often being the cheapest.

AzraelDarkangel

09-28-2009, 01:43 PM

Android, close to not better than the Apple software? Come on please. We see how well Firefox and other open source software did compared to closed source software. I have seen nothing but a vast improvement using Android. Apple fanboys are just scared

Two main ways that they judge software is ease of use and overall functionality. Overall functionality just takes time with tweaking the software and adding apps. Ease of use is improves through tweaking the interface. Functionality-wise Android is catching up to and may be passing Apple being that it's more open. Ease of use is a matter of opinion but most would say that's Apples strength. I haven't used both so I'm not in a position to judge. I'm rooting for Android though.

Macadamia

09-29-2009, 04:39 AM

I'm happy with my new Android HTC, which I promptly got secondhand offcontract for about 350USD. Running prepaid and shaving the bills!

Flashed a modified Hero ROM with the very new and experimental brain***k scheduler, now it's probably one of the fastest smartphones out there with the same Qualcomm 528Mhz.

I wouldn't switch now just for the basis that my next buy would be the Zune HD (subscription win) and the 2 devices are so complementary that I wouldn't want convergence instead, lol.

As for the interface, I think HTC Touchflo/Sense and the iPhone OS have reached parity in terms of sleekness and ease of use. HTC Music needs a lot more polishing, real problem in their UIs, but otherwise it's really a superb job for a company which was still releasing crappy stuff 2 years ago.

HD2 has tons of potential but it needs to clear its way to a WinMo 7 upgrade, then it'll be seen as worth it.
N900 is becoming more and more meh material for me- looks nice, but WM6.1 did too.
Xperia III - Awesome specs like the HD2 but Android needs to work on video capture capabilities too!

AzraelDarkangel

09-29-2009, 10:38 AM

I just like the N900 because it runs Maemo which is Debian Linux based and I know how massive the Debian software package library is since I've used Debian based Linux OS's before and it's totally open source. The hardware is very nice too, as a plus it's got an infrared port so I can use it as a remote control.

However some may prefer Windows based software or Android, just depends on what you like.

TheNexxuvas

10-01-2009, 09:53 AM

Beta testing an Android phone now. After 13 yrs in wireless this is what wireless UI's should have been long long ago. So very customizable and user friendly, so very moldable with all the apps out there.

Android should surpass Apple in popularity real soon...Winmo doesnt come close and neither does Symbian or the others which I've used all but Maemo.

AzraelDarkangel

10-01-2009, 12:51 PM

Awesome, now if they would come out on a phone with decent hardware....Hero is ok I guess, but I would like to see better. Samsung Galaxy is the best one currently out that I know of, better ones are coming soon though.

TheNexxuvas

10-03-2009, 06:55 AM

The latest incarnation of the Hero does have the hardware.

It's lightning quick, check out my review of my beta testing of the Sprint Version under "Shhhh...Title Inside".

The hardware is that good.

AzraelDarkangel

10-03-2009, 10:37 AM

NaeKuh

10-19-2009, 10:13 AM

I like the HTC Leo,but i think that if Sony Ericsson sells Satio for a lower price (100-200$) than HTC does,it will have more sells.I would go for it!!

bwahahahahah xperia sub 400... keep wishing bro.

im on a xperia right now. i love this phonne. its one model older tthen the one shown. but i like my model better because i need a thumb keyboard.

masterg

10-19-2009, 04:51 PM

anyone got any information of the new 'Droid' from verizon? just saw all the 'iDont' DroidDoes commercials and reminds me of the G commercials where it puts its name out there but leaves you in the dark about the rest.

Jamesrt2004

10-20-2009, 02:50 AM

1. It's still 320 x 480, I would like at least 480 x 800 which is coming to Android soon. However I ultimately want full HD 1920 x 1080 but that's way too expensive for hand-held devices right now.
2. No flash for the camera.
3. Needs at least 30fps VGA video.

Otherwise it looks very nice and the reviews sound great!

you wouldnt be able to tell that res atall on those tiny lil screens, hell its hard enough on a 22" with a res that size compared to say 1680x1050 :shrug:

anyone whats a good phoen with wifi :/ my contract runs out in jan and i can get unlimited texts 600 mins unlimited internet + email + unlimited landline calls for £35 :O plus a free phone !! Iphone 3gs will be coming to vodaphone in jan so thats cool although i know its not a good phone girls dig it :p:

zanzabar

10-20-2009, 06:11 PM

touch hd2, the snapdragon is so fast

and what customization dose android have over winmo, u can load a port of touch wiz, or touch flow or make a custom today screen and with android the most popular is the ported touch flow

AndrewZorn

10-20-2009, 06:19 PM

hopefully they will have something better than the touch pro 2 for sprint within the next couple months
really i just want a fast phone that runs something very easy to modify (preferably linux, but i have gotten used to winmo)

Donnie27

10-27-2009, 07:34 PM

I played with the Pure (http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=1542) Wonderful phone and its price is proof of that. Samsung Impression (no WI-Fi) is what I've have gotten if it weren't for just settling for an iPhone!

Machinus

10-27-2009, 08:37 PM

best phone out there is the nokia N900. all open standards, has wifi, voip, and qwerty: the perfect combination, just like my bb 9000

zeroibis

11-13-2009, 09:27 PM

I am really liking that xpPhone finally something that is a computer/phone. Now I can run any basic apps that work in win xp like IPMI view when there is an emergency! I was wondering though, I saw that it supports every wireless format like CDMA but if I was to buy this phone when it comes out what would I need to do in order to use it on Verizon?

KiDMaioRKz

12-12-2009, 05:32 AM

what do we need 4.8" cell phone screen for ?

ddemetrius456

12-15-2009, 09:19 PM

N900 is the perfect super phone
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turbox997

12-15-2009, 10:44 PM

When is my wifi-only phone coming out? I really don't care about all these data services. Give me opera and skype that work perfectly on a wifi-phone and I'll buy.

I second that, or at least one with Wimax built in too. I miss the PDA days. I used to rock a Dell axim v50. I laughed at the kids with the ipods because my pda had a bigger screen, better battery life, could watch movies, stream music, and much more, for about the same price!

No one wanted one though because it wasn't "cool", now the ipod touch came out which is basically the resurrection of the first touchscreen PDA's.

I would love to have a Blackberry Bold 9700 or the Nokia E72 without a friggin data plan, which I'm forced to purchase by At&t here in the States. Many would argue, "oh but it's a smartphone", but why do I have to pay for it, when it has wifi, and so many free hotspots exist everywhere in my city!

P.S. Many U.S. people don't give Symbian OS much thought because it hasn't really broken ground here yet, but it's actually the number 1 mobile OS in the world:

source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone)(one of many sources, I just happen to pick this one)