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BeepBeep2
09-03-2009, 03:23 PM
No 955/965 yet but I did just "urge" purchase a Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer for $39.99 + $15 mail-in rebate. Hopefully it will keep my very leaky 5600+ cool enough...(My Xigmatek SD964 couldn't with 2 65CFM 92mm fans):ROTF: I didn't really want a monster of a cooler weighing like 800 or 900g, I'm a stanoff or two short and my mobo is a bit fragile. (*cough* TRUE or Mugen 2)...

I got held up at 3.3 Ghz for heat reasons, usually temps hitting around 56-57c equaled BSOD. Expect more benching and unmentionable crap from this here kid.

Things will go further as I move up to a new mobo, then new CPU.

Thanks for watching,
Beeps. :)

charged3800z24
09-04-2009, 10:15 AM
You might net a lil jump, but probably nothing huge. Should still be fun to though. Lets us know how it goes. When you can jump to the Phenom II/Althlon II, you will experience all whole new realm of fun ;)

Brother Esau
09-04-2009, 02:59 PM
Your young......invest in water cooling and don't wait as long as i did to do it:D
$60.00 - $70.00 Athrow for high end air coolers is waste of money not to mention that water cooling is way superior with temps under load and its a one time investment that can be used from system to system:welcome:

BeepBeep2
09-05-2009, 11:11 AM
You might net a lil jump, but probably nothing huge. Should still be fun to though. Lets us know how it goes. When you can jump to the Phenom II/Althlon II, you will experience all whole new realm of fun ;)

Well, I'm half sure I'll get something...anyway, on summer days like these my PC tends to overheat...I had to back down to 3.15 to keep the thing stable. CCF in this thing and I won't need to worry about pushing 1.50+ volts in it anymore...(1.45 @ 3.3 Ghz gave 57c) I've got a *small* hunch I can get at least 3.4+ out of this cpu as long as I don't kill my mobo first. :) Trying all the tricks on this CPU is just preparing me for the next one...:lol2:


Your young......invest in water cooling and don't wait as long as i did to do it:D
$60.00 - $70.00 Athrow for high end air coolers is waste of money not to mention that water cooling is way superior with temps under load and its a one time investment that can be used from system to system:welcome:

$40 for high-end air isn't bad, not like I'm wasting my money on a Zalman 10X or TRUE...$15 MIR makes it $25...


My next CPU is most likely a 550, maybe 720. If I can get an unlockable 550 sometime, it would make my day.

bad boy fo life
09-05-2009, 04:02 PM
Why don't you get a Scythe Mugen 2 ? It's 36 $ and cools better than the CCF.

Zeus
09-06-2009, 12:47 AM
Your young......invest in water cooling and don't wait as long as i did to do it:D
$60.00 - $70.00 Athrow for high end air coolers is waste of money not to mention that water cooling is way superior with temps under load and its a one time investment that can be used from system to system:welcome:


+1

Watercooling ftw.

Try to find some used parts, it doesn't have to be extremely expensive, even a heatercore from a car will do.

wez
09-06-2009, 03:25 AM
even a heatercore from a car will do.

My first water build had a heater-core from a honda civic, was free and worked like a charm :)

BeepBeep2
09-06-2009, 08:36 AM
Why don't you get a Scythe Mugen 2 ? It's 36 $ and cools better than the CCF.

890 grams, I don't want to remove the mobo to install it.
CCF is 590.

Guys, atm I don't know why anyone would need to watercool a 5600+ :P But it's not like I'm not looking into WC, just in time...

BeepBeep2
09-06-2009, 08:45 AM
*DP*

I'm also in a mid tower case, so I'd have to buy a full tower or something to fit a nice rad into...(Something bigger than 120mm) unless I just bought something small and cheap as the Corsair H50.

afireinside
09-06-2009, 09:59 AM
External rad, or mod the case. Why so much emphasis on CPU cooler weight? An 890 gram cooler is insignificant compared to the amount of force it is mounted with.

BeepBeep2
09-06-2009, 12:15 PM
I'm lacking a few standoffs because Apevia was to retarded to include enough. It will serverely bend the mobo which leads me back to:


I didn't really want a monster of a cooler weighing like 800 or 900g, I'm a standoff or two short and my mobo is a bit fragile. ...



Surely 2 pounds is a wee bit heavy, isnt it? The CCF is going to suit my needs just fine at the moment, I don't know why you are all "dogging" on me on why I didn't buy something which is around 2c better.

demonkevy666
09-06-2009, 12:57 PM
I'm lacking a few standoffs because Apevia was to retarded to include enough. It will serverely bend the mobo which leads me back to:




Surely 2 pounds is a wee bit heavy, isnt it? The CCF is going to suit my needs just fine at the moment, I don't know why you are all "dogging" on me on why I didn't buy something which is around 2c better.

the mugen 2 is quieter that's about it I have one, have not used it on my cpu alone yet.

Tx-2 that comes with the CCF is nice. one or two stand off short isn't going to be a problem. I can understand the cooler weight if you got a move the case every once in while the thing going to weigh a ton to move.

BeepBeep2
09-06-2009, 12:59 PM
I do go to quite a bit of Lans...I'm debating on wether to use MX-2 or TX-2, I've now got both to use. :P

I'm missing the standoffs between the RAM-CPU area, I'm actually 2-3 short I think...it's a pita to install ram correctly.

m0n4g3
09-06-2009, 07:14 PM
Go to a hardware store and purchase a computer tool kit!

They come with like all the screws you will EVER need, for a minimal cost!

approx $10 AUSD over here! :P

BeepBeep2
09-08-2009, 03:00 PM
Hopefully I'll have time for a small air bench session tomorrow, cooler comes in about 18 hours. :D

BeepBeep2
09-09-2009, 01:37 PM
Took two hours to mount, I feel as it I broke my thumb, currently in OCCT. Ran 5 minutes on Small FFT and it's at 52-53c. (Was 57-58c)
I was expecting more, maybe around 49-50, but I remounted like 6-7 times without redoing the paste. Probably alot of air in there.

Shipped with damage, bent fins...oh well.

BeepBeep2
09-09-2009, 02:31 PM
Quick update:

With side panel off for the moment I'm OCCT'ing @ 3.376 Ghz at 1.50v @ 53c...6 minutes in. (14x241.2) Never gotten close to that before, let alone were able to push 1.50v


EDIT: Make that 2 hour OCCT Blend, 1 hour Small FFT stable.

BeepBeep2
09-09-2009, 05:54 PM
Another Update:

Tried 244x14, for 3.40 Ghz and I couldn't make it to the login screen. BSOD, "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA"...I don't understand this CPU. 3.38 Ghz is fine.

bldegle2
09-10-2009, 04:08 AM
sometimes you hit a :brick: wall...

3.38 isn't bad....

laterzzzz..........

perkam
09-10-2009, 07:49 AM
BeepBeep, I told you this in your previous thread as well. It is not your cooling that has hit a wall, its the processor.

Your chip does 3.4 if you're REALLY lucky. 3.3 is pushing it already. For that $40, you were better off buying a Sempron 140, unlocking it to an Athlon II X2 240, and clocking it sky high to 3.7Ghz.

Perkam

Tomasis
09-10-2009, 11:49 PM
BeepBeep, I told you this in your previous thread as well. It is not your cooling that has hit a wall, its the processor.

Your chip does 3.4 if you're REALLY lucky. 3.3 is pushing it already. For that $40, you were better off buying a Sempron 140, unlocking it to an Athlon II X2 240, and clocking it sky high to 3.7Ghz.

Perkam

i agree.. I did switched from X2 4200 to Phenom II 720. it was like you got into heaven :D

x2 240, sempron.. buy it sooooon! :) sempron you probably can push to 4ghz if youre lucky.

BeepBeep2
09-11-2009, 02:25 AM
BeepBeep, I told you this in your previous thread as well. It is not your cooling that has hit a wall, its the processor.

Your chip does 3.4 if you're REALLY lucky. 3.3 is pushing it already. For that $40, you were better off buying a Sempron 140, unlocking it to an Athlon II X2 240, and clocking it sky high to 3.7Ghz.

Perkam

It does 3.4 tested last night on 1.52v. I've got 3.46 valid also on 1.52v. (Windows 7 64-bit RC)

How the hell do I put an Athlon II in a motherboard that won't run it?
My internet was out last night, it was a good time to stability test and stuff.

I just picked a frequency, (ntune) I'm not even sure if it's not better than that.


EDIT:
1.55v

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=702920

Sly Fox
09-11-2009, 02:50 AM
I was around 14 myself when I got into the tweaking and overclocking aspect of PC's, and I was not nearly as advanced as you are.

So keep up the good work and congrats on the new cooler and success (on the 3.4 ghz OC despite the leaky chip I mean). :up: :D

demonkevy666
09-11-2009, 08:05 AM
It does 3.4 tested last night on 1.52v. I've got 3.46 valid also on 1.52v. (Windows 7 64-bit RC)

How the hell do I put an Athlon II in a motherboard that won't run it?
My internet was out last night, it was a good time to stability test and stuff.

I just picked a frequency, (ntune) I'm not even sure if it's not better than that.


EDIT:
1.55v

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=702920

AM3 will work in Am2 should only need a bios to make it am2+ compatible. you won't be able to unlock chips he's on an 570a, board.

despite not being a 45nm it still clcoks pretty good. at least he'll have good cooler for a 45nm, side note I also like the way the ccf mounts. :)

getting a regor soon would be nice but he's just teenager. getting money like $50 is a b**ch when you're young.

BeepBeep2
09-12-2009, 07:26 AM
AM3 will work in Am2 should only need a bios to make it am2+ compatible. you won't be able to unlock chips he's on an 570a, board.

despite not being a 45nm it still clcoks pretty good. at least he'll have good cooler for a 45nm, side note I also like the way the ccf mounts. :)

getting a regor soon would be nice but he's just teenager. getting money like $50 is a b**ch when you're young.

If I had a compatible BIOS don't you think I'd be on a Phenom or Phenom II chip right now guys?

Even the Phenom's don't even post in this board. To upgrade, I'll need a call to Microsoft, and $170.


And most of the time, I was working on RAM stability...498.8 wouldnt do anything at 4-4-4-12.

Anyway,
21 Minute SuperPi:
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=896931

Tomasis
09-12-2009, 08:02 AM
if you want have phenom II, it is no way other but buy a new mobo :shrug:

I will try athlon II 240 on old nvidia 570 later when I order that cpu.

BeepBeep2
09-13-2009, 08:17 AM
if you want have phenom II, it is no way other but buy a new mobo :shrug:

I will try athlon II 240 on old nvidia 570 later when I order that cpu.

I feel jealous to ASUS M2N32 owners because a bit of them are running 940's in their PC's right now.:down: I bought this board because at the time the ASUS was running at $250 and this board around $120, with this board not really lacking any features the other one had. I payed for it in the end, I guess.:shakes:

BeepBeep2
09-13-2009, 08:23 AM
LOL I've been sitting around for at least 5 minutes at 3521 Mhz, 1.57v and it hasnt crashed yet.

EDIT: Nevermind, it BSOD'ed. :lol2: Still, maybe 3.48 3D Stable...hmm.

EDIT: I can't believe I broke the 3500 barrier, it seemed to have took me forever. :D

perkam
09-13-2009, 07:43 PM
How the hell do I put an Athlon II in a motherboard that won't run it?You said you had $40 to spend.

Then there really is no excuse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186151&cm_re=am2%2b-_-13-186-151-_-Product

I respect that you're 14-years old. Honestly, I was happy my dad bought me my ATI Rage XL to play Unreal 1 on it. Didn't know what overclocking was or where a video card went when I was 14.

But I hear you complaining about your motherboard on more than one occasion, and I would've thought that when you finally saved up enough, it would be the first thing you'd change.

Perkam

maxgull
09-13-2009, 08:17 PM
i've used a couple-4 CCF's in builds, one of them wasn't as flat as it could be, and the finish on all of them was meh, not the best. lapped them all, saw at least a 2c temp drop after lapping, the worst one was a huge 10c. hey, every bit helps, right?
i'm with you, CCF is lightweight, cheap and really good performance, bonus TX-2 comes with it. i'm sold on it for AMD aircooled builds.

wez
09-14-2009, 02:29 AM
You said you had $40 to spend.

Then there really is no excuse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186151&cm_re=am2%2b-_-13-186-151-_-Product

I respect that you're 14-years old. Honestly, I was happy my dad bought me my ATI Rage XL to play Unreal 1 on it. Didn't know what overclocking was or where a video card went when I was 14.

But I hear you complaining about your motherboard on more than one occasion, and I would've thought that when you finally saved up enough, it would be the first thing you'd change.

Perkam

Indeed, other than some fun time (now, nothing wrong with that!), you will gain extremely little in staying with your current mobo/cpu. I know how hard it was from time to time to get cash for hardware, had to prioritize what to buy and not to. Save a little longer for your next buy, and pick up a cool board and CPU, you won’t be disappointed :)

But then again, I’m in no doubt you are enjoying your current setup, and having a lot of fun with it, but there is a time when moving on is the smartest thing to do, both financially and performance vise ;)

And as for the Hyper 212, I can’t comment on how it performs against a CCF, but I’m almost certain it will be worse. (I’ve only compared the 212 against a TRUE, on a 9950 BE, and the difference was quite massive under load)

BeepBeep2
09-14-2009, 11:48 AM
You said you had $40 to spend.

Then there really is no excuse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186151&cm_re=am2%2b-_-13-186-151-_-Product

I respect that you're 14-years old. Honestly, I was happy my dad bought me my ATI Rage XL to play Unreal 1 on it. Didn't know what overclocking was or where a video card went when I was 14.

But I hear you complaining about your motherboard on more than one occasion, and I would've thought that when you finally saved up enough, it would be the first thing you'd change.

Perkam

Since I'm not having any problems running games on high -ish settings and moderate AA/AF atm, I'd like to get a 550 and Gigabyte 785 or 790X...

And, well, I'd like to have a mobo on which I can clock my CPU a bit...I mean, if I spend that much, on that mobo, which is nearly a downgrade from the mobo I have...(3 phase power, ----ty audio, ----ty lan?) though it will run AM3 CPU's :)...ones which I can't buy if I buy that mobo and ones in which I will have had no decent cooler for?

I have fun overclocking. It's fun overclocking "dangerously" on this CPU at the moment....sheesh, I sound a bit heated...

I just wouldn't have as much fun trying to overclock a 45nm CPU or any CPU on a stock cooler. :D

And for now, that's what counts. Pumping 1.575v through my CPU and waiting for SuperPi to say "Pi Calculation is done." :up:


i've used a couple-4 CCF's in builds, one of them wasn't as flat as it could be, and the finish on all of them was meh, not the best. lapped them all, saw at least a 2c temp drop after lapping, the worst one was a huge 10c. hey, every bit helps, right?
i'm with you, CCF is lightweight, cheap and really good performance, bonus TX-2 comes with it. i'm sold on it for AMD aircooled builds.

I checked the base with a straightedge ;) Did your base look like this: http://www.frostytech.com/articleimages/200804/sunbeamCCF_base.jpg ? The base on mine was completely flat in one axis, and ever so slightly convex in the other. .1 or .2mm at most. It was also shiny (not completely reflective, but close) , and there was almost no space between the heatpipe and base.

BeepBeep2
09-15-2009, 03:06 PM
New 1m :)

http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=898457

Tomasis
09-16-2009, 09:04 AM
I feel jealous to ASUS M2N32 owners because a bit of them are running 940's in their PC's right now.:down: I bought this board because at the time the ASUS was running at $250 and this board around $120, with this board not really lacking any features the other one had. I payed for it in the end, I guess.:shakes:

guess what brand im running for nvidia 570?






A B I T :rofl:

BeepBeep2
09-16-2009, 11:09 AM
guess what brand im running for nvidia 570?






A B I T :rofl:

Nothing wrong with abit either, other than their sad demise...:yepp:

Tomasis
09-16-2009, 12:23 PM
Nothing wrong with abit either, other than their sad demise...:yepp:

yeah but I'd appreciate bios updates.. whatever.. it is probably being sold later as complete computer system for "less-comp-savy" people ;) I remember old times of Nf7-s which I did had too. Bye, Abit :(