MCR320 = DEAD: What rad to buy?

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I was screwing my swiftech rad box onto my rad and screwed the screws too tightly.:shakes:

The rad now leaks and is dead to me.:rolleyes:

Now I need a new triple rad. :D

I have 3 san aces, although I may invest in some scythe typhoons (1450 or 1850 rpm models). Either would be on a fan controller.

That said, I need to order a new rad. My MCR320 was nice, BUT I wouldn't mind an upgrade since I'd use it again in a new build.

Whats a good triple rad that'll get at least that type of performance or better? I don't want a a thermochill, but something with normal spacing.

I'm ordering tonight, so help me out!

[Sadasius]

New Thermachill's are supposed to have the normal spacing now. Only the old one's are 17mm apart. 15mm is pretty much the standard now. The Black Ice GTX works really well with those San Ace's. It's the combination I use all the time now.

[millertime359]

The HWLabs SR1s are suppose to be nice. XSPC RX360 too. Those would go great with the GT 1850s

If you don't mind keeping the san aces, one of MWLab high FPI rads are suppose to be nice, but require the higher speed fans.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I run my fans on the lowest speed that a fan controller and the fans will allow. I guess that's 5v?

I can always turn them up while gaming.

How do the MWlabs and black ice gtx compare, fin spacing wise, to the MCR320? I don't want anything much louder than what I was running.

I can do a 120x4 considering I have an extra san ace collecting dust. Is it worth going up to a quad rad or will I not see a benefit?

[Sadasius]

I would get the TC then since you run your fans low. I run mine at 12v and take advantage of the fin spacing on the GTX as it is much more restrictive then the swifty.

[millertime359]

I forget what your specs were, could you list them?

HWLabs SR1 360 is 9 FPI.

I didn't see the exact number for the MCR320, but IIRC it is less.

Then a GTX360 is 20 FPI.

XSPC RX360 is 8 FPI

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Does the thermochill outperform the Black Ice SR1 360 or the XSPC RX360?

They run about 120, 130 and 100 respectively.

IF there's not much of a difference in performance (1 degree or two really doesn't matter to me), I'd go with the "cheapest" rad and pick up the XSPC.

[millertime359]

Here you go: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=220593 and http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=220026

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

q6600 @ 1.5v

D Tek v1, swiftech res, mcp655 pump, Danger Den high flow barbs. 7/16" ID 5/8" OD masterleeker tubing.

Nothing else in the loop, although I wouldn't mind doing NB and possibly a video card, but for now, that's not going to happen.

I know any of those rads would handle any cpu and nb. Video card is another story.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

This may be the rad to buy: Magicool elegant 360

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_200&products_id=23793

I didn't know they carried Magicool products. Its such a beautiful rad and has great performance, plus I think its a low FPI rad, right?

Edit:

For about $100, I guess it would come down to the XSPC or the magicool for low FPI and great performance.

If you guys had to choose, which one?

[Sadasius]

I would get the XSPC for sure. I would not trust the Magicool res on the rad.

[Wolf132]

I guess taking it to a local auto shop and getting them to fix it in about 10min is out of the question?

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Xspc it is!

[millertime359]

I would upgrade your CPU block before looking at cooling the board. I have heard that blocks like the HK 3.0, and EK Supreme LT perform better than that block. It may net you a couple of degrees.

I would say the XSPC too. If you are only planning on adding 1 GTX 260 or 280 onto that loop, you should still be fine.

[_G_]

I rember hearing that swiftech has a new quad mcr in production. should be out soon. a dab of jb weld/quick on the old mcr should hold you over til then.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I need a replacement rad for now so when I go i7i9 it'll handle it.

I don't want to invest any mote cash into a 775 heatsink plus I don't have the cash fir it ATM.

[millertime359]

Synthetickiller;3984503']I need a replacement rad for now so when I go i7i9 it'll handle it.

I don't want to invest any mote cash into a 775 heatsink plus I don't have the cash fir it ATM.

Got ya. Plenty understandable. :up:

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

XSPC and scythe fan controller ordered! :D:up:

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

ugh --- old thermochills are 24.5mm not 17mm

sorry to nit pick but so many people get it confused and its a big difference.

[gillbot]

why not try to fix the current rad?

[Stellarex]

XSPC RX360 is a nice rad (I have one). But your fans are overkill for it. They only have 8FPI as opposed to normal rads with 20-25FPI (Fins per inch). The RX360 is made for medium speed fans. I have mine paired with Med Yates with shrouds and it works great! (4.1ghz i7 D0 at 61ºc at full load for 13hours of prime95 fft blend)

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I bought the aces a while back b/c they are simply hard to get.

I undervolt them as much as possibly.

I may get some typhoons but not now. Maybe I'll get a GTX in the future

[_G_]

If you are still tossing the old one toss it in the mail (to me:D) lol.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I've had few offers to do that.

I might just try jb weld on it when I have the time. Not sure how to do that, but I'll Learn.

[_G_]

all you have to do is make sure the surface is clean (paint removed) and it will hold
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have used it on motorcycle radiators (brass) with no issues. (they run under 14psi)

[Diverge]

why not try to fix the current rad?

That's what I was thinking. Just get some JB weld, and it should be all good ;)

http://www.jbweld.net/products/index.php

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I have one more question.

I broke down & ordered some gentle typhoons.

On the XSPC, do these fans perform better in a push or pull config? I assume pull, but I want to confirm it.

[Sadasius]

I don't think it matters if your running them full speed. If you got them under as well then I would say pull for the lower speed.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Thanks, I'll run pull and just turn them up if needed.

With my aces on my mcr320, turning them up dropped temps maybe 3 degrees. Not enough to warrant the noise. Since this is a better rad, I should have no issues.

[millertime359]

Martian's review on that: http://martin.skinneelabs.com/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html

[Sadasius]

Yup I was right. Pull on the smaller lower speed fan.

http://martin.skinneelabs.com/img/FanShroudTest4-25mm1350.png

[millertime359]

I think the GTs fall in that middle category where it doesn't really matter. :confused:

[Sadasius]

The GT's are 25mm though right? Or are they 38mm? I don't own any. If they are 38mm then push. If they are 25mm then pull.

[millertime359]

The GT's are 25mm though right? Or are they 38mm? I don't own any. If they are 38mm then push. If they are 25mm then pull.

25mm

[pcnazz]

I use the XSPC RX480 with 4 120mm x 25mm 2200 rpm fans ( pushing ) on a 4 channel Ultra fan controller running all 4 at 1700 rpm . I could run the fans even lower no problem . You should be very happy with the XSPC RX360 . I also have the MCR320 Rad that is retired at the moment . For $ 49.95 the MCR320 is an awesome rad . You are going to find the XSPC RX360 works well with lower speed fans compared to your Swiftech MCR320 rad . Be sure to save that rad and have it repaired . It is a very easy fix and you will use it again some day . The Swiftech MCR320 QP Rad holds it own against the big boys ! Good luck on your upgrade .

[Kaldor]

I guess taking it to a local auto shop and getting them to fix it in about 10min is out of the question?


why not try to fix the current rad?

Crazy talk. Cost you about $10 and 10 minutes at a local radiator repair shop. Then just spray bomb it and done. Pay closer attention to screws next time.

I never trust JB Weld in a mission critical (IE water leaks and kills PC) application. Ive used it plenty of times, but not for anything like this.

[NaeKuh]

can u shroud the san aces?

if u can there is no better rad then a GTX series.

The shrouds also dampen the noise san aces make. However its impossible to get rid of that whistle they make...

[millertime359]

Crazy talk. Cost you about $10 and 10 minutes at a local radiator repair shop. Then just spray bomb it and done. Pay closer attention to screws next time.

I never trust JB Weld in a mission critical (IE water leaks and kills PC) application. Ive used it plenty of times, but not for anything like this.

Read the original post. He wanted to upgrade to a thicker rad. That's why he didn't want to fix it. :up:

[Kaldor]

Not quite that millertime, but close, he doesnt ever state he wanted to upgrade but that he had/needed to because it was damaged. Big difference there, heh.

But in this day and age, repairing things are becoming a lost art. Im not even that old (34) and I appreciate the art of repairing something rather than throwing it away and buying another.