Best DDR3 Memory for PHII [Archive]

Daveburt714

08-27-2009, 11:08 PM

I know this question has been asked more than once, but there is alot of new stuff out there and I'm actually about ready to buy a premium 4GB kit...

Here's what I'm looking at:

G.Skill 1600 7-7-7-21 @ 1.65v
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231279
(leaning heavily toward this kit unless I hear otherwise! ;))

Mushkin 1600 7-7-7-20 @ ~1.9v
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146871

Kingston HyperX 1625 7-7-7-20 @ ~1.8v
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104105

I'd really appreciate any opinions or recommenations based on the gear shown in my sig...

Thanks..... Dave

mav2000

08-27-2009, 11:24 PM

OCZ Platinum 1600 7-7-7 1.65V...the amd version works great and not over priced.

Titan7171

08-27-2009, 11:40 PM

Those G-skills look tight, same ones I was wondering about for a future purchase...

Daveburt714

08-27-2009, 11:59 PM

OCZ Platinum 1600 7-7-7 1.65V...the amd version works great and not over priced.

Are you talking about these Mav2000?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227448

They are actually 8-8-8-24 @ 1.65 and only $1 cheaper than the G.Skills... ;)

zanzabar

08-28-2009, 12:11 AM

ocz has 2 grades one cas 8 one cas7, when the cas7 is in stock it sells out in an hour or so. anything with micron is good they have the qpt i think thats the low volt stuff

TheBlueChanell

08-28-2009, 12:25 AM

Are you talking about these Mav2000?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227448

They are actually 8-8-8-24 @ 1.65 and only $1 cheaper than the G.Skills... ;)

OCZ has some platinum's with cas7 but they've been OOS @ the egg for almost 3 months. I talked to tony and he said he'd let me know when they egg is gonna have them again.

Slave1974

08-28-2009, 12:41 AM

Here is the alternative. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381)

Its 140 for three 2 gb sticks. Buy two kits, use the four 2 gb sticks, pay 280, sell a member here the remaining two 2 gb sticks for 100, viola!

If you want it, I am thinking of buying two of these kits, I can sell you two sticks for 100. They retail for about 100 USD when they are in every 31 lunar cycles on jupiter.

zanzabar

08-28-2009, 12:46 AM

thats not the same u have to go to the 1800mhz kit to have a chance to get the same chips as the amd plat

Koekerwauz_NL

08-28-2009, 02:07 AM

don't forget corsair

the Corsair TW3X4G1600C9DHX 2x2GB is also an OK kit.
running at 7-7-7-20 @1,85 Volts.

mav2000

08-28-2009, 02:14 AM

This is what I am talking about. I got it for 70 Euros including shipping to India which was 10 Euros. Now looks like the prices have picked up significantly.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr3_pc3_12800_platinum_amd_edition

looks like its sold out from where I bought it though.....

As u may know amd prefers tight timings to speed in mhz...so am right now running this at 6-6-5-18 1T at 1.65V. My IMC is too weak to run 1600, and anyway this seems to give better results with a higher clocked NB.

mAJORD

08-28-2009, 02:40 AM

I've been extremely happy with the G.Skill 1333 PI (cas 7) , they OC like mad at low voltage for the $.

So i assume the 1600 kit is also a nice low voltage option, but better.

Smartidiot89

08-28-2009, 03:15 AM

These quite good/cheap: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148227

Max stable was 1411mhz 6-6-6-18-24-1T at 1.8v for me but with some voltage mine easily does 1500mhz+ 6-6-6-18-24-1T stable and was great fun benching with, with appropriate voltage... They should run 1600mhz CL7 without a issue in this world

Darknight

08-28-2009, 03:30 AM

And the OCZ Reaper 1600MHz DDR3 - 1.9V

I have the OCZ Reaper, and I'm enjoying.

I can do 1800MHz CL7@1.92V.
and 1600MHZ, 7-6-5 @ 1.85V

not tested much yet

w0mbat

08-28-2009, 03:31 AM

The best one is any one @1.5v.

danny2244

08-28-2009, 08:06 AM

DON'T USE DEFAULT 1.8v & 1.9v ram ON AMD P2
CHOOSE DEFAULT 1.5v ~ 1.65v

WSP

08-28-2009, 09:14 AM

DON'T USE DEFAULT 1.8v & 1.9v ram ON AMD P2
CHOOSE DEFAULT 1.5v ~ 1.65v

I agree on that.

I have Micron D9GTR chips (Team Xtreem D3-1866C8 2Gb kit) which working great on Intel systems (2000mhz 7-7-7-21 2T on X38 and X48 mobo), but fail to boot to windows @1600mhz 9-9-9-24 2T on my PII 550 even @2.0v

but maybe my PII 550 having a bad IMC :shrug:

first thing you have to do if you looking for a good RAM is to check out if your cpu have a good IMC ;)

charged3800z24

08-28-2009, 09:20 AM

I must be the only one running Kingston LOL. I have the 2x2GB and 2x1GB Hyper-X 1800mhz kits and both run 1600mhz 7.7.7 23 1t @ 1.65v and 1333 6.6.6. 21 1t @ 1.6v

chew*

08-28-2009, 09:44 AM

I may have a "lot" of an affordable high performance ram solution for amd in 2x2 gig variant's in the near future ;) Predicting 5-5-5 1333, 6-6-6 1600 and 7-7-7 1800 all the "good" stuff amd likes :)

Dopamin3

08-28-2009, 10:32 AM

Ocz3p1600lvam4gk

Darknight

08-28-2009, 12:10 PM

after some quick tests

my OCZ 1600MHZ (1.9V default) do with CL8 @ 1.65V

and 1.8V with CL7

What is your opinion? Which I use

Riska

08-28-2009, 12:25 PM

Riska

08-28-2009, 12:27 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148245&Tpk=CT3KIT12864BA1339

only 46 bucks

WSP

08-28-2009, 12:45 PM

I may have a "lot" of an affordable high performance ram solution for amd in 2x2 gig variant's in the near future ;) Predicting 5-5-5 1333, 6-6-6 1600 and 7-7-7 1800 all the "good" stuff amd likes :)

why do you always get the hot stuff? :shakes:

I envy you

chew*

08-28-2009, 12:58 PM

why do you always get the hot stuff? :shakes:

I envy you

Actually I'm pondering selling some at a reasonable price thus the reason for grabbing an entire lot. Need to see how they do first but the IC's are quality ;)

ridney

08-28-2009, 06:57 PM

i'll definitely get a good 4gb kit from you chew, just let me know

Mechromancer

08-28-2009, 08:17 PM

Aren't there DDR3 kits with AMD Black Edition Profiles?

Slave1974

08-28-2009, 10:55 PM

thats not the same u have to go to the 1800mhz kit to have a chance to get the same chips as the amd plat

This is what I am talking about. I got it for 70 Euros including shipping to India which was 10 Euros. Now looks like the prices have picked up significantly.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr3_pc3_12800_platinum_amd_edition

looks like its sold out from where I bought it though.....

As u may know amd prefers tight timings to speed in mhz...so am right now running this at 6-6-5-18 1T at 1.65V. My IMC is too weak to run 1600, and anyway this seems to give better results with a higher clocked NB.

Wait, these (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381) are the same exact specs. What do you mean I have to go to 1800 for the same specs.

The AMD plat edition are 7 7 7 24 1.65v, the triple channel are 7 7 7 24 1.65v, the amd is 2x2 gb, the other is 3x2 gb.

What does the 1800 kit have to do with it?

Aussie FX

08-29-2009, 06:55 AM

Hi Dave.
I have the OCZ Gold (AMD edition) Cas8 and they've been great. I'm running 8Gb at 1600 Cl8 1.72v.
The 8Gb really taxes the imc but 4Gb will do 1600 Cl7 easily.
I originally had them in a GBT 790FXT-UD5P and had dramas because of bios issues but once I changed to the MSI GD-70 they have been rock solid.

Hope that helps.

How've ya been?

ridney

08-29-2009, 07:43 AM

would these work on the am3? would look good on my gd70 :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145267

Daveburt714

08-29-2009, 09:45 AM

Go and buy the Crucial Value Pc10600 1333mhz mem they rock avsome CT3KIT12864BA1339 it is a 3gig kit but dirt cheap and they do 1600mhz 7-7-7-18 1T at 1.65-1.70v no problem!
They are with Micron D9JNM chips.

Being the impatient sort I checked MicroCenter and they have 1 kit of what I beleive to be these sticks (except 2x2 4Gb)...

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0307440

Same specs as the ones you listed 1333 CL9 @ 1.5v...
Anyone else second this kit? The price is certainly right. :)

Thanks for all the suggestions!

@Aussie FX: I've been good man... Welcome back stranger!:yepp:

Panther57

08-29-2009, 01:01 PM

My memory is not High performance at 9.9.9.24 1.8v but it needs to be mentioned because of stability. These sticks continue to give me great performance so I keep them and don't replace to get down to the 8's, 7's or lower. Mine are on a 790FX-GD70 with a 720BE running 203/3.552. Running sticks at 1353 (Because 1600 is no real gain) 1.65v and are rated up to 1.8v. 16462 Futuremark06 score. Not shabby for 9.9.9.24 2T. (They run at 1T but their fine 2T)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145200

Daveburt714

08-29-2009, 01:16 PM

For anyone interested, I went and bought that last kit from MicroCenter.

The chips are Micron D9KPT's, so far they are great for the price!! :up:

Thanks to Riska for the suggestion and a Big thanks to chew* for this post, it helped get me a rough idea of where to start:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3951718&postcount=9

They don't have heatspreaders so I didn't want to put the Vdimm too high but they ran a 1/2 hour prime blend @ 7-7-7-24-29 1500Mhz with only 1.65v.
Temp readings between the pair (hottest area) hit 53c toward the end of the prime run... I'm not too concerned about that. :p:

Finally a decent 2x2 kit and I only had to spend $70... :D

Titan7171

08-29-2009, 01:22 PM

For anyone interested, I went and bought that last kit from MicroCenter.

The chips are Micron D9KPT's, so far they are great for the price!! :up:

Thanks to Riska for the suggestion and a Big thanks to chew* for this post, it helped get me a rough idea of where to start:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3951718&postcount=9

They don't have heatspreaders so I didn't want to put the Vdimm too high but they ran a 1/2 hour prime blend @ 7-7-7-18-25 1500Mhz with only 1.65v.
Temp readings between the pair (hottest area) hit 53c toward the end of the prime run... I'm not too concerned about that. :p:

Finally a decent 2x2 kit and I only had to spend $70... :D

sweet price for that kit:up: just take off heatspreaders from a pair of dogged memory and put them on those little nuggets of goodness or place a fan over them?

imamage

08-29-2009, 11:15 PM

Anyone tried Super-Talent DDR3-1600 2GB x2 Kit ?
It only require 1.5V and the RAM have SPD timing for DDR3-1600

Caveman787

08-31-2009, 04:42 PM

I think the new Ripsaw ddr3 ram from G Skill may be best for overclocking.

As they have ddr3 1600 at 8-8-8-21 at 1.5v and ddr3 1333 7-7-7-18 at 1.5v

If they overclock well they should be able to do some crazy speeds and timings within the 1.65v for core i7 and possibly core i5 users assumeing it has that memory voltage limitation.

Whats the ddr3 voltage limit for am3?

crazydiamond

08-31-2009, 04:58 PM

Zeus

08-31-2009, 10:20 PM

i would be interested :)

+1

Daveburt, i have 2x1GB Crucial Value 1333 cas 9 stuff here with D9JNM chips on them, they can 1600 6-6-6 but subtimings suck.

Always slower than my OCZ platinum low voltage stuff, i think i need to spend some quality time tweaking this ram.

1600 6-6-6 requires 1.95V at least, a bit much for 24/7 usage i think.

ridney

08-31-2009, 10:49 PM

i am also interested with what chew is offering, it sounds promising.. and maybe he could also offer some kind of one time oc support or notes perhaps to get low timings (i don't really understand what drive strengths are for and how to use them)

well, right now i am struggling with my kingston "value ram" 1333 CL9 and just couldn't take it anymore so i just ordered the corsair dominator "blue heatsinks" 8gb at newegg

Daveburt714

08-31-2009, 10:55 PM

Daveburt, i have 2x1GB Crucial Value 1333 cas 9 stuff here with D9JNM chips on them, they can 1600 6-6-6 but subtimings suck.

Always slower than my OCZ platinum low voltage stuff, i think i need to spend some quality time tweaking this ram.

1600 6-6-6 requires 1.95V at least, a bit much for 24/7 usage i think.

Thanks for the info Zeus. I'm not sure why (maybe 2x2Gb?), but my kit has the D9KPT's. I haven't really pushed them yet but I don't think I'd be comfortable with 1.95v's... ;)

It's a really nice kit for the price, but I can't help thinking I should have ordered the G.Skill RipJaws for $30 more (sigh).... :cool:
I've had pretty good luck with G.Skill stuff! Hopefully someone will buy that kit and post some results....

Anyway, I'd definetly be interested in a chew* tested kit as soon as I sell my 9950 rig...

BTW, Gratz on winning the 965! :clap:
That's a beautiful machine you have... :up:

I'm gonna work on my external WC box this weekend, I know it's fugly....
I'ts old, homemade and been modded too many times without any concern for asthetics... :rofl:

Zeus

09-01-2009, 12:44 AM

Thanks Dave.

Yeah, 2GB modules usually carry KPT chips, 1GB modules usually have JNM.

Tbh, i'm not really impressed by the sticks, they need too much volts for my liking.

I recently discovered my 2x2GB OCZ platinums can do 1600 6-6-6 too, unfortunately not at their rated 1.65V lol. They have got to be Micron equipped.

Winning the 965BE was quite a surprise for me too, i can't wait to torture it. :)

chew*

09-01-2009, 01:20 AM

Well the modules i'm referring to are going to need a tad of voltage but they should be a universal soldier be cheaper than elpida and other models. Most users will be best off 1600 6-6-6 or 1333 5-5-5 and not bother with 1800.

See what happens when I rip through a few sets.

If they do pass my torture I will post indepth timings for the 3 major players etc tune a set to each board, MSI, giga and asus.

ridney

09-01-2009, 01:30 AM

sounds very good chew, definitely looking forward to your tests

Tomasis

09-01-2009, 10:07 AM

sounds very good chew, definitely looking forward to your tests

+1

:up:

Jure_5

09-01-2009, 01:25 PM

I've gor OCZ Flex EX XLC 2000MHz 2x2GB.
Can do 1600 6.6.6.18 @ 1.88V :) I'm not worried about high voltage.

WSP

09-02-2009, 11:34 AM

Zeus

09-08-2009, 12:51 AM

pcnazz

09-08-2009, 01:39 AM

This kit I might be buying soon for new Asus M4A79-T or Crosshair mb with a new PH II X4 955 I have coming Wed. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231259 or I go with Corsair again http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145224

chew*

09-08-2009, 06:09 AM

chew*, any news on this yet?

No news is bad news....we ordered 4 sets of part number XX and we received 4 sets of part number YY......apparently the old stock they claimed to have was not old stock.....

FYI if the actual part # was right it would have been Micron GTR based 2x2g..... for around $120.

Looking into other options now. Might be another IC with potential just need to find it in the right bin.

Tomasis

09-08-2009, 06:41 AM

chew*

09-08-2009, 06:55 AM

I guess I will order 2x1 gb from crucial .. also new Gigabyte DDR3 UD5P :P

I hope Chew will help Gigabyte tweak one 2x2gb. we'll see..

does anybody know US online shop which can ship items to Europe? Im interested of Crucial Ballistix 1x2gb modules .. For now I cannot order from Germany only U.K. :D

I'm working on it........problem is I'm trying to keep the price range balanced for you guys to......elpida hypers are the best I used but I don't think you guys want to shell out $300 for ram.....

Who here would spend $150 ish on a 2x2g kit if they did 6-6-6 1600+ without crazy volts?

Just trying to get a ballpark of the avg guys budget, sadly I don't think any $100 kits are gonna do it and be good for 24/7 use.

If i was buying ram right now here would be my 2 picks....

2x1gig http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227276 <--- most likely GTR/GTS based on spec but no gurantees.

2x2g http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231272 <--- Confirmed elpida based BBSE......no gurarantees what they will do on AMD platform yet.

Currently searching for an OCZ elpida BBSE variant.

Riska

09-08-2009, 08:08 AM

What about 2x1gb stick that can do 6-6-6-1600+ can you get that? then i would be int.

chew*

09-08-2009, 08:53 AM

What about 2x1gb stick that can do 6-6-6-1600+ can you get that? then i would be int.

I'm more concerend with the everyday users versus benching stick tbh.

Riska

09-08-2009, 09:12 AM

Thats wy i am asking i am looking for a set of mem that can do 6-6-6-1600mhz+ 24/7 but only 2x1gb

chew*

09-08-2009, 09:24 AM

Thats wy i am asking i am looking for a set of mem that can do 6-6-6-1600mhz+ 24/7 but only 2x1gb

Find something with micron GTR/GTS....most likely going to need 1.9v for 24/7 6-6-6 1600 which is why i don't reccomend them......I have a feeling if and when we get an exclusive ddr III IMC things are going to be "different"

I am personally leaning towards the lower volt stuff now.

Tomasis

09-08-2009, 09:30 AM

I'm working on it........problem is I'm trying to keep the price range balanced for you guys to......elpida hypers are the best I used but I don't think you guys want to shell out $300 for ram.....

Who here would spend $150 ish on a 2x2g kit if they did 6-6-6 1600+ without crazy volts?

Just trying to get a ballpark of the avg guys budget, sadly I don't think any $100 kits are gonna do it and be good for 24/7 use.

If i was buying ram right now here would be my 2 picks....

2x1gig http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227276 <--- most likely GTR/GTS based on spec but no gurantees.

2x2g http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682031272 <--- Confirmed elpida based BBSE......no gurarantees what they will do on AMD platform yet.

Currently searching for an OCZ elpida BBSE variant.

That was interesting..

I want play with Gigabyte very soon thats why I cannot afford 2x2 at the moment. :D It will be interesting contest vs ddr2 brothers.

I see you suggested Ocz Reaper. Heatsinks look cool. Too bad my Ninja 2 is very Fat compared with slim True :) So I go with Crucials. I suppose there is chance for GTR/GTS too?. Gigabyte would love it, right? :D

found some links from UK shop for quite lower prices compared to "official" prices directly from Crucial EU.

Ballistix 1600 (http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/25343/Crucial-memory-2GB-Kit--2x1GB--DDR3-Ballistix)
Ballistix 1333 (http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/38629/Crucial-memory-2GB-Kit--2x1GB--DDR3-Ballistix)

I dont know which to pick :p

chew*

09-08-2009, 09:35 AM

Tomasis

09-08-2009, 09:38 AM

I am personally leaning towards the lower volt stuff now.

Myself, im wondering if lower volt on memories means newer process coming out chip labs? it might mean it clocks higher like cpu? 40nm production?

I have seen GTR/GTS long enough :D

Tomasis

09-08-2009, 09:41 AM

Well, unfortunately crucial is a crap shoot for micron, Only way I have found to be guranteed is by buying the 2000 bin.....Msimax and myself have found them to be short lived as well......I think his degraded and mine did to undervolted.......

oh, so OCZ picks the good chips and sell them? or it requires active cooling unlike heatsinks on crucial? Too bad newegg doesnt ship internationally.

Tomasis

09-08-2009, 10:07 AM

found OCZ Reaper what Chew suggested but from Europe .. Guess which shop? Amazon.de :D 52 euros
OCZ Reaper Enhanced Bandwidth (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/b000zkm7ew/geizhalspre03-21/ref=nosim?m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF)

Found also that Trident 6gb (2x3gb) which costs 165 euros. It is 1600 version, cas6.
Trident 6gb (http://quanja.es-shops.de/eshop.php?action=article_detail&s_supplier_aid=1360753)

EDIT: last link is changed.

chew*

09-08-2009, 10:28 AM

found OCZ Reaper what Chew suggested but from Europe .. Guess which shop? Amazon.de :D 52 euros
OCZ Reaper Enhanced Bandwidth (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/b000zkm7ew/geizhalspre03-21/ref=nosim?m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF)

Found also that Trident 4gb (2x2) which costs 85 euros. It is 1600 version.
Trident 4gb (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p10452_G-Skill-4GB-Kit-F3-12800CL8D-4GBTD.html)

hmmm

That trident kit isn't the tight bin timing stuff.

OCZ stuff is correct though.

Tomasis

09-08-2009, 10:40 AM

That trident kit isn't the tight bin timing stuff.

OCZ stuff is correct though.

its edited. Please check and see if it is correct.

I gonna skip that 2x3gb. 165 euros, ouch. :shakes:

Tomasis

09-08-2009, 01:50 PM

I couldnt resist and ordered OCZ reaper :P Furthest two memory slots will get places. Not other pair at closest. We'll see, I will check if 2x60mm fans can work on ;p

tbone8ty

09-20-2009, 06:43 PM

what about G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-2000 2 x 2gb 9-9-9-27 kit?

i saw another thread over in the xtreme bandwidth section.... was wondering how these faired with the phenom II 955-965

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231281

Koekerwauz_NL

09-21-2009, 02:37 AM

Running my previous kit 2x2GB without any trouble.
I was afraid that 4x2GB would not run.
But is runs fine @7-7-7-20@1,7V.

I would recommend this kit also

ridney

09-21-2009, 06:54 AM

Running my previous kit 2x2GB without any trouble.
I was afraid that 4x2GB would not run.
But is runs fine @7-7-7-20@1,7V.

I would recommend this kit also

what kit are you referring to? is it the one on your sig? is it stable?

Koekerwauz_NL

09-21-2009, 08:42 AM

Yes, it's in my sig. And yes its stable with vista 64bit
I didn't test it with any memory bench but is runs at the recommend speed

ridney

09-21-2009, 09:43 AM

i have the same kit and i can run it at that speed but it is far from stable though

JNav89GT

09-25-2009, 12:01 PM

I have 4x2gb of the Mushkin 7-7-7-20 memory. Running at 1600mhz 2t timing all 4 dimms :). I haven't pushed it higher yet b/c I'm waiting to remount everything in my watercooling setup.

ah_khoo

09-26-2009, 11:29 AM

one vote for geil ddr3 2133 cl9 (4GB kit), pretty decent IMO... :)

http://img2.pict.com/5c/e9/8d/1673957/0/300/geilddr1700407772433.png (http://img2.pict.com/5c/e9/8d/1673957/0/geilddr1700407772433.png)

chew*

09-26-2009, 11:37 AM

one vote for geil ddr3 2133 cl9 (4GB kit), pretty decent IMO... :)

There are sticks out there in that price range that pull 1800 6-6-6 or 1800 6-7-6........

ah_khoo

09-27-2009, 01:22 AM

There are sticks out there in that price range that pull 1800 6-6-6 or 1800 6-7-6........

i'm quite sure there are, but over here in my place, i'm quite limited to few choice only. geil ddr2133 is bein sold at d same price as dominator 1800 cl9 and team dark 1600 cl7. so it wasn't too hard for me to choose. ;)

Darknight

09-27-2009, 04:23 AM

I have OCZ Reaper CL7 2x2Gb 1600Mhz

Uses high voltage(1.9v) but so far so good
But i can down a little

CL7 @ 1600MHz 7-7-7-15 1T (1.75V)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1339/cl7spi.th.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/cl7spi.jpg/)

CL7 @ 1800MHz 7-7-7-15 1T ( 1.95V)

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7489/ddr3900mhz.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/i/ddr3900mhz.jpg/)

CL6 @ 1600MHz 6-6-6-15 1T (2.1V+-)

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/883/cl6e.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/cl6e.jpg/)

And a Try CL5 1600, but no boot.

But 1348Mhz can

CL5 @ 1348 5-5-5-15 1T (2.1v)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1925/cl5spi.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/cl5spi.jpg/)

I use 24/7

CL7 @ 1600 7-7-7-15 1T ( 1.75v).

sorry my English

Koekerwauz_NL

09-27-2009, 04:49 AM

after some testing my kit failed in some tests.
But when reading this article:

http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=58&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=1

and setting the ns/sb to 2600 and adding volts aswell the kit runs stable.
Pi run @3,8ghz@2600@2600 32M stable.

Thats enough for me.

LucasR

09-29-2009, 02:13 AM

well i got this mobo: BIOSTAR TA790GX A3+ 5.x what ddr3 memory for this board ? i think about ripjaws CL9 F3 or CL7
?? they will work fine ?

Dopamin3

09-29-2009, 08:28 AM

well i got this mobo: BIOSTAR TA790GX A3+ 5.x what ddr3 memory for this board ? i think about ripjaws CL9 F3 or CL7
?? they will work fine ?

Those G.Skill Ripjaws kits look extremely nice. Go for the one with the tightest timings in your price range.

chew*

09-29-2009, 08:31 AM

the CL7 ripjaws will not do cl7 on amd ..................

This thread is called best ddr III memory for amd, sadly I see some of the worst reccomendations.

demonkevy666

09-29-2009, 10:05 AM

the CL7 ripjaws will not do cl7 on amd ..................

This thread is called best ddr III memory for amd, sadly I see some of the worst reccomendations.

oh really doesn't this apply to what you said about 3.8-ghz4.0 ghz thread too?>

OgaiB

09-29-2009, 10:15 AM

the CL7 ripjaws will not do cl7 on amd ..................

This thread is called best ddr III memory for amd, sadly I see some of the worst reccomendations.
I am interested in your opinion about this kit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231272
How it was working on AMD platform?
In the future, I plan to buy it as a universal and use for all 3 platform

chew*

09-29-2009, 10:25 AM

I am interested in your opinion about this kit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231272
How it was working on AMD platform?
In the future, I plan to buy it as a universal and use for all 3 platform

Buy it for intel unless you think 8-8-8 1800 is fast on AMD.....it will not do c7 or c6 at all.

chew*

09-29-2009, 10:27 AM

oh really doesn't this apply to what you said about 3.8-ghz4.0 ghz thread too?>

Actually No.....however feel free to make AMD users spend ( actually waste ) money on ram that will not run Specs.........

The problem You may fail to see is I have blasted through alot of kits.....testing.....I know what works, I know what doesn't.........alot of people see great results on intel and say hey those are good sticks.....they must kick ass on AMD and then they reccomend them having used no such product.......

I only reccomend what I have actually had in hand and used......But what do i know.....

As far as what i said in the other thread......Me personally I would rather bask in my own sucess of stabilizing my own hardware my damn self than live in someone else's shadow.

Put simply if people copy others they learn nothing......if they do it thereself they learn something.......am I guilty of trying to help people learn on there own? I guess so. Am I guilty of trying to save AMD users headache's, returns and money? I guess so.

Really good info here........
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234989

DosDuoNo

09-29-2009, 10:43 AM

Not to be a spoil sport but this thread is sort of useless.......

Not all mobo's are equal, not all ram is equal and not all cpu's are equal.......so having even the same model of everything and one batch # difference 2 people are going to arrive at diff settings for a stable clock.

MY 2c having conducted this test myself with exactly the above described configuration.

i dont understand, sry this is your other post from another thread, so waht you say about any ram here may not be the case for others, acording to this post?

theoldtimer

09-29-2009, 11:01 AM

Buy it for intel unless you think 8-8-8 1800 is fast on AMD.....it will not do c7 or c6 at all.

Yeah, I bought those hoping they would work well on both my i7-920 D0 and my Phenom II’s but Chew is right they just don’t want to boot with the tight timings (up to 1.75V). At least on my AMD 550be unlocked to quad. I haven’t tried them on my i7 though.
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii101/theoldtimer/wprime8487score550cpuz.jpg

chew*

09-29-2009, 12:09 PM

i dont understand, sry this is your other post from another thread, so waht you say about any ram here may not be the case for others, acording to this post?

Well yes and no.....

I ripped through 12 gigs on the BBSE elpida........

None could pull C7 however just variations in the sticks made a diff in the overall clock acchieved.

I binned them 2 sets 1 batch off one set was far from stellar other set was killer.

Noted same thing with cpu's right next to each other in batch.......One had a killer NB the other was a dud.

We are talking the diff between +.375 for 3000 NB and +.375 for 2400 NB......

Same goes for boards.......

Timings will vary but not CL.

Overall speed is what will vary most.

DosDuoNo

09-29-2009, 12:52 PM

ok, i think i understand now, if you have tested them they will be the same results, but if others test on them they wont, because they have not tested enough. except those who maybe test lots, then they wouldnt have to ask, because they would know this, and wouldnt give us the answer. but you have.

thanks chew+

chew*

09-30-2009, 09:17 AM

Here's another set I just tested......If your IMC is up to par these will do rated specs.......without headaches.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4040846&postcount=28

DosDuoNo

09-30-2009, 11:24 AM

very nice, but you will get errors after a few weeks running these with a TrFc of 90ns, its too tight dont you think? 125 or 175 would be better, with no issue in performance?

chew*

09-30-2009, 11:32 AM

very nice, but you will get errors after a few weeks running these with a TrFc of 90ns, its too tight dont you think? 125 or 175 would be better, with no issue in performance?

110ns is slower and as you go up in TRFC you take even bigger hits.....If ram is capable I like to run it tighter.

Usually I run into no issues at 90ns, with my gigabyte board if its not stable it will just reboot loop.

BiGSpender

09-30-2009, 01:27 PM

I got these Gskills. I want good memory for games and some photoshop. What do you recommend?
G skill (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231190)

or should I of got these.

mushkin xp (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146871)

chew*

09-30-2009, 01:50 PM

Those mushkins look like samsung or micron based. I would probably go for those, better chance of 6-6-6 1333.

demonkevy666

09-30-2009, 05:10 PM

alright some I'm thinking about picking a sempron 140 and gigabyte board AM3, but haven't got a good idea on what memory to buy for it.

chew*

09-30-2009, 05:41 PM

alright some I'm thinking about picking a sempron 140 and gigabyte board AM3, but haven't got a good idea on what memory to buy for it.

Sempron is going to have a weak IMC, I would avoid 1600 rated ram like the plague....shoot for stuff in the 1333 range.

Me personally I would shoot for the micron stuff.

It has a better chance of hitting tigher.

Frontl1ne

09-30-2009, 05:53 PM

Sempron is going to have a weak IMC, I would avoid 1600 rated ram like the plague....shoot for stuff in the 1333 range.

Me personally I would shoot for the micron stuff.

It has a better chance of hitting tigher.

I've never tinkered with an AMD set up chew, but my friend has asked to build and overclock a Phenom II rig for him. I'm just deciding on the memory at the moment. You say to avoid 1600, would it be okay to get 1600mhz RAM and downclock (i'm not sure if you can downclock memory on amd systems :S) it to 1333? My reason is that because it is rated at 1600mhz it may be able to do 1333 with tighter timings? The numbers don't really matter, I just want to know if I have it right, ie. if I get ram that's rated at 2000mhz, will it be able to run at 1600 with tighter timings than memory that's been rated at 1600mhz

dragonwolf13

09-30-2009, 05:58 PM

Chew I would like to have your opinion on Mushkin pleas, I have 2X2GB 1333 cl 7-7-7-20 and they run on 1T.
These are the ones I have, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146868
All so how do I find out what chip they have and other brands.

Daveburt714

09-30-2009, 09:29 PM

Me personally I would shoot for the micron stuff.

It has a better chance of hitting tigher.

chew*: Thanks for all your work on the memory front! :up:

chew*

10-01-2009, 05:26 AM

I've never tinkered with an AMD set up chew, but my friend has asked to build and overclock a Phenom II rig for him. I'm just deciding on the memory at the moment. You say to avoid 1600, would it be okay to get 1600mhz RAM and downclock (i'm not sure if you can downclock memory on amd systems :S) it to 1333? My reason is that because it is rated at 1600mhz it may be able to do 1333 with tighter timings? The numbers don't really matter, I just want to know if I have it right, ie. if I get ram that's rated at 2000mhz, will it be able to run at 1600 with tighter timings than memory that's been rated at 1600mhz

Only high bin stuff I have used is Elpida Hyper and BBSE and micron D9.

Micron and hypers can be tightened however, your still at mercy of IMC....My 720 will not run 6-6-5 1600. I would be wary of most of the 1.65v rated c7 1600 stuff.....it could have anything under the hood like powerchips or BBSE. I have only seen one set of power chips pull spec 1600 7-7-7 and allow running tight 6-6-6 1333.

Dragon wolf.

Sometimes specced voltage alone is enough clue to get a basis on what IC's are used. Those mushkins are specced 1.7-1.8v.

My guess is micron or samsung, leaning more towards micron.

chew*

10-01-2009, 05:49 AM

Here let me break this down for you guys a little to understand this better.

Here we have a 720 BE.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/The_Laboratory/720BE.jpg

965 BE

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/965BE/IMG_1391.jpg

What matters here is the first line of the stepping. Some of you will remember I posted a refresher thread of something s7 had done along time ago.

So in the memory support/clocking/overclocking department theres is something key to look for in the stepping.

First line 720 BE = CACZC

First line 955/965 = CACYC

This denotes an IMC revision......Those with the Y IMC revision have an improved IMC 1600+ is cake tight.

Those with the Z revision are best suited for 1333 operation.

Hope this helps you out with choosing ram.

I might note your just better off running 1333 tight no matter what as from what testing I have done at well above 1700+ 6-6-6 yields little fruit save for everest and PI 32m.

Not only that but but interal timings and latencies of the processor are tighter when running 1333 divider.

The clocks of 4 gig and up to 3000 NB are just to much of a bottneck for high ram clocks to be of any real use in real world apps.

For cold benching....yes high ram clocks win....however tight + high still matters but only when cranking at 5gig +.

DosDuoNo

10-01-2009, 07:00 AM

but if it is a multiplicator with CACK, isnt that bad?

chew*

10-01-2009, 07:02 AM

but if it is a multiplicator with CACK, isnt that bad?

Don't think you will see 720's or 955 or 965 with CACK.

What is that a sempron?

DosDuoNo

10-01-2009, 07:17 AM

Don't think you will see 720's or 955 or 965 with CACK.

What is that a sempron?

no it is joke, CACK = :banana::banana::banana::banana:, It comes from the Flemish kakken=to :banana::banana::banana::banana:

hence why i asked if it was bad? :up:

edit: it would seem bananas have taken word, google for CACK

Frontl1ne

10-01-2009, 08:26 AM

Thanks chew* :D

Riska

10-01-2009, 09:26 AM

Nice both my 955BE and my 965BE are both with the CACYC stepping..

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/riskatoft/DSCF2776.jpg

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/riskatoft/DSCF2742.jpg

chew*

10-01-2009, 09:30 AM

Nice both my 955BE and my 965BE are both with the CACYC stepping..

They all are with the high end parts. In a sense you get what you pay for.

The point is that some chips aren't 720's 710's i think maybe 550's?

demonkevy666

10-01-2009, 09:30 AM

there thread here with a up close sempon 140 it's says CAEEC.

newegg only has mushkins ram ddr3 rated for 1.7-1.8 volts.

going to 1.7-1.9 I see kingston hyper x.

I like 2gbs sticks not 1gbs.

FlanK3r

10-01-2009, 10:00 AM

test it please, i have the same X4 955 BE CACYC 0911 EPMW-3.9 GHz stable with AIR (can u compared OC with 965 BE?)

FlanK3r

10-01-2009, 10:02 AM

chew*

10-01-2009, 10:08 AM

but i have big problem with 3000 MHz at NB (how much do u used cpu-NB voltage with 955 0911epmw?)

NB ability has nothing to do with this batch #........It has to do with amd refining process and nothing more.

I have seen chips side by side with over a 400 mhz gap between NB abilities.

Instead of anyone telling you which is freaking pointless.......since all chips are diff which I have said till i'm blue in the face..........

Why not take the time and scale the voltage up one notch at a time increasing voltage as needed for NB till you can tell us what "YOUR" chip likes....

FlanK3r

10-01-2009, 10:22 AM

ok, i must be happy with 2900 MHz NB for benchmarks :)

Riska

10-01-2009, 12:22 PM

My 955BE can do 4ghz stable on water and post at 6.4ghz on ln2 and 3dbench at 5.4ghz but have only had it under ln2 once and the 965BE is the same on water but can bench at 5.8ghz on ln2

chew*

10-01-2009, 12:38 PM

Yep and I have used Some HL ES that booted 2800NB on just default volts.

I have also used some chips that needed +.400 just to boot 2600NB.

Oliverda

10-01-2009, 01:20 PM

Yep and I have used Some HL ES that booted 2800NB on just default volts.

I have also used some chips that needed +.400 just to boot 2600NB.

When will you get the OCZ "black" kit?

FlanK3r

10-01-2009, 01:27 PM

+0,4 to 2600? not so good :-/. Maybe with +0.4 i can get 3000MHz stable (i tried max +0.325V)

dragonwolf13

10-01-2009, 04:15 PM

Thank you Chew :)
Now I just need to figure how to clock properly, and I don't mean the ram.

chew*

10-01-2009, 04:42 PM

When will you get the OCZ "black" kit?

Not sure. was given a heads up it was on the way along with a fancy ram cooler.

Oliverda

10-02-2009, 08:00 AM

Not sure. was given a heads up it was on the way along with a fancy ram cooler.

Okay.

I've just found it on the newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227496

http://c1.neweggimages.com/productimage/20-227-496-02.jpg

It has green PCB...:shakes:

I think that $129.99 is a little bit expensive for a 8-8-8-24 kit.

chew*

10-02-2009, 08:15 AM

Ehhh I think the green PCB is a usa thing :/

My other AMD kit came with green pcb to, I prefer the black but o well.

Oliverda

10-02-2009, 08:41 AM

Ehhh I think the green PCB is a usa thing :/

My other AMD kit came with green pcb to, I prefer the black but o well.

Strange...

What do you think about this Dominator GT (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145268) kit? Is it Elpida Hyper?

chew*

10-02-2009, 08:56 AM

Strange...

What do you think about this Dominator GT (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145268) kit? Is it Elpida Hyper?

Elpida BBSE my bet. Doubt its hyper seeing as they have a CL 6 AMD 2x2g kit listed on site for $400 ish.

Oliverda

10-02-2009, 09:04 AM

Elpida BBSE my bet. Doubt its hyper seeing as they have a CL 6 AMD 2x2g kit listed on site for $400 ish.

So then if I'm not mistaken you haven't tested this GT kit. I'm considering to try it...

chew*

10-02-2009, 09:13 AM

So then if I'm not mistaken you haven't tested this GT kit. I'm considering to try it...

I predict 8-8-8 1600 8-7-5- best case scenario.

FlanK3r

10-02-2009, 09:37 AM

wtf? And what 1333 6-6-6-x?

chew*

10-02-2009, 10:00 AM

wtf? And what 1333 6-6-6-x?

BBSE I tested would not boot C6 1333......

Peedyy01

10-02-2009, 10:50 AM

:)

Kingmax 2x1GB Bus1333 "D9JNM"
+
Asrock M3A785GMH/128M
+
Sempron140@X2 440

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/peedyy03/DSCF9396_resize.jpg

@1610 CL 7-6-6-15-24
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/peedyy03/48_resize.jpg

@1712 CL 7-7-7-18-28
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/peedyy03/14_resize.jpg

Valid
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/peedyy03/Valid.jpg

&

On Sempron140

@1652 CL 7-6-6-15-24
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/peedyy03/s6_resize.jpg

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/peedyy03/s8_resize.jpg

:p:
@1760
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/peedyy03/s13_resize.jpg

dragonwolf13

11-06-2009, 04:51 PM

Here's another set I just tested......If your IMC is up to par these will do rated specs.......without headaches.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4040846&postcount=28
chew* have you tested these by gskill (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231276).

I have bin thinking of replacing my mushkins as I had to rma them and I was looking at gskill.

chew*

11-06-2009, 08:06 PM

chew* have you tested these by gskill (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231276).

I have bin thinking of replacing my mushkins as I had to rma them and I was looking at gskill.

Havent tried them but I would imagine those would do spec.

dragonwolf13

11-06-2009, 08:51 PM

Havent tried them but I would imagine those would do spec.

Do you have any plans to test them?

chew*

11-06-2009, 09:28 PM

Do you have any plans to test them?

Don't have em but they should be the same as the other gskills I tested which could do 7-7-7 1333.

dragonwolf13

11-06-2009, 09:34 PM

Don't have em but they should be the same as the other gskills I tested which could do 7-7-7 1333.

Cool, sounds like gskills are soled. I just found out my ram are on the way, if they fail I'll get a set of them.
Thanks chew*

breakfromyou

11-06-2009, 10:01 PM

and i'm still debating whether it's worth getting a new board + RAM just for DDR3 capability. I want a little more performance...and 5850's are too hard to come by.

are there any 2x2gb Crucial value kits to look out for? could one have D9JNM on them?

I'll check at work...

FireDragon

11-07-2009, 08:31 PM

Well atm im thinking of making a new rig, and from what i can gether here the lower the voltage the better at 1333 or 1600 (makes perfect sense) and the tighter the timmings the better, so pretty much if there is a kit rated at 1.5-1.65 volts at tight timmings they will work just fine and long as u have the new revision mem controller, and a decent board? i was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231279 (on a side note waht about this ram 1.3 volts) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144363

imamage

11-08-2009, 02:57 AM

Any hint with the chip ??
Does Micron D9 chip work well with Phenom II IMC?

daellum67

11-16-2009, 03:05 PM

Has anyone tried running sticks based on non-hyper elpida IC's?

Fry's has a sale on some value ram that uses those IC's, and after experiencing DDR3 on my main rig I'm very tempted to pick them up and throw them in my media center PC. It has an unlocked 720BE so I'd aiming for somewhere in the 1333-1500 cas 6 range as opposed to 1600+.

gman2725

11-17-2009, 06:51 PM

ryfoo

11-19-2009, 12:40 PM

dragonwolf13

11-19-2009, 03:19 PM

I found these that I thought looked a good buy, would be grateful for any input:

Patriot G Series AMD 4GB (2x2GB) PC3-10666 1333MHz Dual Channel (PGS34G1333LLKA)

(7-7-7-20)

£73.99 over here in the UK which seems like a good price.
Did you find them on a web site, and which one?
I can't get thous here in the states for some stupid reason.
From what I read on them on Patriot's site they are rely good.

ryfoo

11-19-2009, 03:23 PM

I found them on Overclockers:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-020-PA&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1516

Judging by the fact you've been looking out for them I'm guessing you think they're good?

dragonwolf13

11-19-2009, 03:37 PM

Low timing, low voltage, and 1333 is a sweet spot for the Phenom II, ya I do.
There is a set of G-Skills I like to test too, but I'm going to wait till after the holidays to get them.

daellum67

11-19-2009, 03:43 PM

I have a set of OCZ Platinum 1333 low voltage 2x2GB specced for 7-7-7-20 at 1.65v. Not sure what ics they use but they're capable of cas 6 at 1333 with a boost is vdimm. 1.85vdimm nets me 6-6-6-18-1t 90ns trfc with pretty tight subtimings. I have trouble pushing it to 1600 without pushing the vdimm to 2.0 (for 8-8-8-20-1t) which I'm not comfortable with until i find out what ics they have. But for the $76 I paid for them I feel they were a decent buy since the timings are decent.

Thanks

I'd bet money you have Micron D9's judging how well they scale with voltage. I'm running 4x2gb of them myself in my main rig and they do what i'm after with 1.7vdimm (1333 cas 6 with tight subtimings). At this point I'm probably just going to try to keep an eye out for another set of D9 based stuff as on intel those elpida non-hypers don't clock well at all with anything less than cas 9.:down:

neo mike

11-19-2009, 04:41 PM

Im running this kit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220285 they do 1633 cas 7 on AMD, and also 1533 cas 6 with 1.95v which is where im running them, pretty decent sticks.

Existence_Inc

11-19-2009, 08:28 PM

neo mike

11-19-2009, 08:54 PM

Those GTS look like a good kit, you should push them and see how high you can get them stable, looks like could be a good kit. They probally is my guess will do 1700 cas 7.

neo mike

11-20-2009, 04:21 PM

Here is a little article i read from ocz on AMD memory, and NB clocking very interesting, dont know if its somewhere else on here, but dont see it, enjoy.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=AMD_AM3_Memory_Speed_vs_NB_Speed

sinar

11-20-2009, 06:18 PM

Anyone know the difference D9 on these Crucial Ballistix T (N) (R) (B) (G) 1608?.......http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2%2050001455%2040000147%201052429371%20105231579 4&name=4GB%20%282%20x%202GB%29&SpeTabStoreType=1

Thank you.

krjalone

11-20-2009, 09:14 PM

I'm currently running this set (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145268) at 1666 (250x6.67) 7-7-7-20-27 T1 1.65v on my GA-MA790FXT-UD5P with my 955BE. I know it's an Intel designed set, but it works just fine. It's just missing the BEMP. I haven't pushed it much harder than that, but I'm sure I can tighten the timings.

I have this Corsair GT set :http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4GB-(2x2GB)-Corsair-TwinX-Dominator-GT-DDR3-PC3-16000-(2000)-240-Pin-Non-ECC-Unbuffered-CAS-8

Working prime stable on Asus crosshair3 and 965 BE c3 1800 6-6-6-20-30 T1 1.72v With old 965 c2 I Could not even boot over 1500 6-6-6-20-30 T1

Don_Dan

11-21-2009, 03:28 AM

I have this Corsair GT set :http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4GB-(2x2GB)-Corsair-TwinX-Dominator-GT-DDR3-PC3-16000-(2000)-240-Pin-Non-ECC-Unbuffered-CAS-8

Working prime stable on Asus crosshair3 and 965 BE c3 1800 6-6-6-20-30 T1 1.72v With old 965 c2 I Could not even boot over 1500 6-6-6-20-30 T1

The Dominator GT 2000C8 kit is decent, but why is there such a big difference in clockspeed just changing from C2 to C3. I could run them at 884Mhz CL6-6-5-20 1T on my C2 965. ( 1M stable ;) )

chris.y2k.r1

11-21-2009, 03:47 AM

I personally think that anything Super Talent makes is the best. They do everything you would expect and they are everything you would expect. What I mean by that is they scale well with volts and the DDR1800 CAS 7 at 2.0v is the same kit as the DDR1600 CAS 7 at 1.8V. You can run them both with very smiliar results. ST has been consistently better than GSkill and OCZ for me and has been in the same price range. They run just as good on my AMDs as my Intel (Actually a little better on the AMD). I've been using them for years.

Oliverda

11-21-2009, 03:56 AM

Existence_Inc

11-24-2009, 08:25 PM

Those GTS look like a good kit, you should push them and see how high you can get them stable, looks like could be a good kit. They probally is my guess will do 1700 cas 7.

Unfortunately, they will not post above 1670 at 7-7-7-21-27 T1. I just get a memory error.

Could you please test it at 1600/CL6?

I have tried with different settings and voltages, but it won't post with any setting below 7 (Ex. 7-7-6-20, 7-6-7-20, 6-7-7-20). I even tried T2, but no luck. Makes me wonder if maybe it's somehow hard-coded into the memory. :shrug:

breakfromyou

11-26-2009, 07:42 PM

I picked up some D9KPT based 1333 C9 Crucial value memory, and I can't even get it to run at 1600 cl9 with 1.7v. I have to be doing something wrong, right?

MSI 790FX-GD70 w/PII X2 550 C2, AND PII X3 720. With a fan over the RAM...

neo mike

11-27-2009, 06:54 PM

Anybody know whats under the hood of these ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231322

chew*

11-27-2009, 06:56 PM

Anybody know whats under the hood of these ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231322

Judging by those timings that would be elpida BBSE.

neo mike

11-27-2009, 07:10 PM

I was hoping you were going to say Hypers :shakes:.

TheBlueChanell

11-27-2009, 07:16 PM

I went ahead and ordered these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231321&cm_re=4gb_gskill_eco_1600-_-20-231-321-_-Product

I wanted to wait till after I returned from my trip but I was afraid there would be a price hike. I will post some results when I receive them. I'm hoping for at least 1600 CAS6. This may be the kit we've all been waiting for.

Daveburt714

11-28-2009, 01:08 AM

Just a little "Heads Up" for those of you who aren't sure about RAM Timings...

Nothing is written in stone, but this has always been a good starting point for me... You can always tweak things from here. ;)

If you have 7-7-7 clocks, add them together and set your tRAS to 21 (7+7+7) then add tRas (21 in this case) to the CL (latency (7)) and set Trc to 28... Tras + Latency.

Another example would be, if your memory does 6-6-6. Set Tras to 18 and TRC to 24 (18+6).... You get the idea... ;)

I'm sure alot of the hard core folks already know this, but it's a nice rule of thumb for folks who may be confused about Ram timings.

Don_Dan

11-28-2009, 01:38 AM

You can add tRC x 2 = tRFC to that list! ;)

It only works on Intel though, where you can set specific timings, not ns values.

tbone8ty

11-29-2009, 08:20 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303

wow these Gskill ripjaws are cheap!!.... ddr3 1600 7-8-7-24 1.6V

hmm anybody got these?

TheBlueChanell

11-29-2009, 09:00 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303

wow these Gskill ripjaws are cheap!!.... ddr3 1600 7-8-7-24 1.6V

hmm anybody got these?

I believe chew has and they didn't play nice with AMD.

tbone8ty

11-29-2009, 09:24 PM

yeah thanks i re-read this forum on chew recs...

lots of disappointments for AMD spec memory

give me some C5 1333 or C6 1600 at that price!!!!

dragonwolf13

11-30-2009, 12:51 PM

I'm very curios about these G-Skills Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231318) has look at the voltage and the timing, at the end it has 2N. I'd like to know if they are any good and what the 2N is?

Afterburner

11-30-2009, 03:37 PM

CSX Diablo D9GTR @ 6-6-6-18-12-90ns @ 1600mhz :D

neo mike

11-30-2009, 04:36 PM

what kit 2000 cas 9 4gig ? can you do 1700 cas 6 ?

Afterburner

11-30-2009, 11:31 PM

Yup as described in my sig :yepp:

I cant go above 1600 as my Dual Core sux in that aspect. It does however OC to 3.9Ghz core 2.8Ghz nb in Dual mode and 3.6Ghz core 2.6Ghz nb in Quad mode.

FireDragon

12-02-2009, 02:25 PM

i would also like to know what the 2N means at the end of the G.Skill low voltage mem. Is it 2t instead of 1t? as i think i am going to order my basic setup soon CPU/mobo and ram (might have to add a new psu in there as well)

Dragon

PaganII

12-02-2009, 02:29 PM

Crucial just came out with some 4Gb sticks of 1333.
16Gb total for AMD boards.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=26436

Cas 9 1333mhz, nevermind.

FireDragon

12-02-2009, 02:31 PM

well i guess from what i just looked up it does mean that stock the G.skills here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231321&cm_re=g.skill_eco-_-20-231-321-_-Product r 2t not 1t but im pretty sure in the review they where running at 1t without problem ill have to go back and look

Dragon

Cele303

12-02-2009, 02:58 PM

My memory arrived today and this is my first introducing with them, Corsair Dominator GT i7 kit 3x2GB 1866 7-8-7-20 1.65V...

Well, first of all, I expected much better packaging for 300€ memory, it looks very cheap, so my first impression was disappointing, I love cool and great looking boxes and packaging... :)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8672/dsc03145g.th.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/dsc03145g.jpg/) http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3108/dsc03146j.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/dsc03146j.jpg/) http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3220/dsc03147u.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/dsc03147u.jpg/)

Then I took two modules and start to raising frequencies with default voltages and memory timings in bios while testing windows xp stable boot from bios to desktop... The end was running cpu frequency 4112MHz with 1.40V, nb frequency 2820MHz with 1.17V and memory 1880MHz 7-8-7-20 27 1T 1.65V

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6469/bootwb.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/bootwb.jpg/)

This is just first run, probably not stress stable, only boot stable... I know there are plenty chew's screenshots all over the forum so I will study memory timings closely but after first bad visual impression this is very cool memory! Too bad it comes only as i7 kit, third module will collect dust... :(

dragonwolf13

12-02-2009, 03:47 PM

chew*

12-02-2009, 04:00 PM

Hay chew* do you know what G-Skill has here?

No,

Fairly busy atm but I will see if I can aquire a set for testing in the near future.

Cele glad your happy with a set of high end ram guranteed to do spec on AMD :up:

As far as the extra module, If you buy a second set you have 3 sets you can match for amd ;) Or you can sell off a pair, keep one set for benching and one set for your 24/7 rig.

As far as packaging I would far rather any manufacturer save on the bling and put it where it matters, quality control :)

I have tried to talk a few manufacturers into a 2x2 gig AMD kit but the market is small so not very cost effecient for them :(

dragonwolf13

12-02-2009, 04:04 PM

No,

Fairly busy atm but I will see if I can aquire a set for testing in the near future.

:up:
Thank you chew*, sorry to bother you too.

Zeus

12-02-2009, 11:17 PM

Cele303, awesome results already! Now i have to resist ordering... :( :D

chew*

12-02-2009, 11:26 PM

Cele303, awesome results already! Now i have to resist ordering... :( :D

sorry zeus but I just had to..........:p:

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-files/converted-images/blah/Air/lrg_Air%20bench%208.jpg

Zeus

12-02-2009, 11:31 PM

Grrrrr, my wife is killing me. :D Awesome man!

chew*, do you know how the Dominator GT 2x2GB PC12800 1600 C7 kit works on AMD?

crazydiamond

12-02-2009, 11:52 PM

sorry zeus but I just had to..........:p:

[IMG]http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-files/converted-images/blah/Air/lrg_Air%20bench%208.jpg[x/IMG]

where can i buy that ram :shrug: got 2x2gb for sale ? :p:

chew*

12-03-2009, 12:12 AM

Grrrrr, my wife is killing me. :D Awesome man!

chew*, do you know how the Dominator GT 2x2GB PC12800 1600 C7 kit works on AMD?

If it looks to good to be true it most likely is.........

If looking to buy only 2 sticks I suggest you research there top of the line "p55 tuned" 2000+ 8-8-8 model.

RnR

12-03-2009, 02:09 AM

Cele303

12-03-2009, 05:59 AM

Cele glad your happy with a set of high end ram guranteed to do spec on AMD :up:

As far as the extra module, If you buy a second set you have 3 sets you can match for amd ;) Or you can sell off a pair, keep one set for benching and one set for your 24/7 rig.

I'm in love with this ram already :D :up:

Last month 965 C3, now Dominator GT, only thing missing is ati 5970 and Cele lived happily ever after :D :D

I will buy another kit in the future just like you suggest, sell 2 modules, keep and use 4, I like the idea! :up:

Cele303, awesome results already! Now i have to resist ordering... :( :D

thanks man! I'm not going to make you easy, :D you've seen chew's screenshots, memory is awesome no doubt! :yepp: :up:

chew*

12-03-2009, 06:09 AM

Well I bit the bullet... got the F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO booting at 8-8-7-24-40 at @1600 with 1.5v(which is min on this board) on a DFI Jr M3H5 with a 965 C3. Will not boot with CL = 7. However I am a complete nub at overclocking :down: So any hints for what to try would be greatly appreciated :D

By the timings your seeing those sounds like elpida BBSE. better off to drop to 8-8-8 and run them up speed wise.......sets I tested would do 1800.

I'm in love with this ram already :D :up:

Last month 965 C3, now Dominator GT, only thing missing is ati 5970 and Cele lived happily ever after :D :D

I will buy another kit in the future just like you suggest, sell 2 modules, keep and use 4, I like the idea! :up:

Yah now only if we could get a manfacurer to sell a set cheaper, maybe something that doesn't make the cut for 1866 on intel but can pull say 1800 on AMD.

Glad your happy.

krjalone

12-03-2009, 06:19 AM

Grrrrr, my wife is killing me. :D Awesome man!

chew*, do you know how the Dominator GT 2x2GB PC12800 1600 C7 kit works on AMD?

I have this Dominator GT kit 2x2GB PC2000 C7CMG4GX3M2A2000C8

Prime stable 1.7v 6-6-6-20 T1 about 880mhz-890mhz

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00637/5357040.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=5357040.jpg)

chew*

12-03-2009, 06:21 AM

I have this Dominator GT kit 2x2GB PC2000 C7CMG4GX3M2A2000C8

Prime stable 1.7v 6-6-6-20 T1 about 880mhz-890mhz

[.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Cool lets see some prime stable with high NB and cpu clock ;)

krjalone

12-03-2009, 06:24 AM

Cool lets see some prime stable with high NB and cpu clock ;)

Is this ok for start? ;)

edit1. Chew* is right DDR voltage is 1.7v

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00069/5357147.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=5357147.jpg)

chew*

12-03-2009, 06:27 AM

Great work. This is what's needed for other users so they don't think we are tossing out suicides ;) Bet it was nice an low reasonable volt for 24/7 use unlinke d9's to :)

I guess that confirms that corsairs high end P55 2000+ 8-8-8 kit is elpida hyper 2x2g for those not wanting to shell out the cash for 3 sticks.

A couple of my own contributions.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/965BE/simon%20c3%20prime%20giga%203%20load.JPG

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/blah/Water/Water%20bench%201.JPG

Tomasis

12-03-2009, 12:43 PM

wooha, I checked on Corsair Dominators for quite some time.. 6gb costs only 30 euros more than 4gb version from kmelektronik.de :p: I can still wait ;)

Don_Dan

12-03-2009, 12:59 PM

Grrrrr, my wife is killing me. :D Awesome man!

chew*, do you know how the Dominator GT 2x2GB PC12800 1600 C7 kit works on AMD?

Haha! :D Go for the 2x2GB 2000C8 Dominator GT and you'll never look back! :up:

Great work. This is what's needed for other users so they don't think we are tossing out suicides ;) Bet it was nice an low reasonable volt for 24/7 use unlinke d9's to :)

I guess that confirms that corsairs high end P55 2000+ 8-8-8 kit is elpida hyper 2x2g for those not wanting to shell out the cash for 3 sticks.

It's Hyper, I used the same kit! ;)

It's good Corsair uses Hyper ICs on their 2000C8 kit, unlike some other manufacturers who are using BBSE on their own kits. To be honest I'm expecting nothing less for the price....

Daveburt714

12-03-2009, 10:54 PM

chew*

12-03-2009, 10:59 PM

Not allowed to comment on Ic's.

Should be good for 1680 7-7-7-24-28 or 30-1t or 1333+ 6-6-6-24-28-1t

Daveburt714

12-03-2009, 11:10 PM

Not allowed to comment on Ic's.

Should be good for 1680 7-7-7-24-28 or 30-1t or 1333+ 6-6-6-24-28-1t

I understand man....
Any tips for Trfc (currently @ 90ns) or max voltage on a GB 790XT-UD4P, passively cooled in a well ventilated case?

Thanks for your advise...... Dave

mav2000

12-03-2009, 11:13 PM

Well I have the same kit with a 965 C2 and they wont do 800...at the speced timings and volts. so am runnin it at cl6 1333.

chew*

12-03-2009, 11:16 PM

I understand man....
Any tips for Trfc (currently @ 90ns) or max voltage on a GB 790XT-UD4P, passively cooled in a well ventilated case?

Thanks for your advise...... Dave

90 ns may be a tad agressive for 24/7 use with them, benching should be fine though, I think max you can give without voiding warranty is .05 over to compensate for mobos undervolting but don't quote me on that.

Daveburt714

12-03-2009, 11:28 PM

Well I have the same kit with a 965 C2 and they wont do 800...at the speced timings and volts. so am runnin it at cl6 1333.

Sorry to hear that Mav, I did have to give them +.1v, but the SS I posted above is quite stable on my C3. I have a DMM temp sensor between the sticks and they never go over 43c, so I'm not too worried... ;)
I think the IMC on the C3's is a little better than the C2's.

90 ns may be a tad agressive for 24/7 use with them, benching should be fine though, I think but don't quote max you cam give withoutvoiding warranty is .05 over to compensate for mobos undervolting but don't quote me on that.

Thanks Bro! I'm still trying to tweak two things at once...
The C3 and the Mem are both new, so I'm trying to find the balance.

Off to do some Memtest runs, thanks again for the advice! :up:

jpm804

12-03-2009, 11:30 PM

Well I have the same kit with a 965 C2 and they wont do 800...at the speced timings and volts. so am runnin it at cl6 1333.

I had no issues running my set at spec ... I used Chew's same settings and they worked fine... Thanks *chew

Here is the link where *chew shared his setting on a 790FXT UD4P

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226121&page=7

Zeus

12-03-2009, 11:50 PM

I bet they are exactly the same as the Platinum low voltage edition i had on my last rig before i sold it.

Runs nice but nothing special really, i ran 1333 6-6-6 with 1.65V for daily use.

I pulled the trigger on a kit of Dominators, 2x2GB 12800 C7 with BEMP (Black Edition Memory Profile) i know this kit is not recommended by our ram tester chew* but that was the only affordable kit of Dominators GT, the other kits were out of my budget.

I will post results here as soon as i've got 'm.

Daveburt714

12-04-2009, 12:00 AM

I pulled the trigger on a kit of Dominators, 2x2GB 12800 C7 with BEMP (Black Edition Memory Profile) i know this kit is not recommended by our ram tester chew* but that was the only affordable kit of Dominators GT, the other kits were out of my budget.

I will post results here as soon as i've got 'm.

Showoff... How many times did you promise to do the dishes to get those.. ;)

I have about 21 more days to take these back and swap out for those Dominators (+ $80). Lets us know how it goes!

Don_Dan

12-04-2009, 09:22 AM

Anyone have any clue as to what IC's it uses, or what it likes?
I'm pretty happy with it so far! I haven't really pushed it yet but this was pretty easy @ 1.7v:

I'll venture a guess and say it's D9KPT.

I pulled the trigger on a kit of Dominators, 2x2GB 12800 C7 with BEMP (Black Edition Memory Profile) i know this kit is not recommended by our ram tester chew* but that was the only affordable kit of Dominators GT, the other kits were out of my budget.

I will post results here as soon as i've got 'm.

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist! :D

Tomasis

12-04-2009, 09:56 AM

Does Corsair Dominator 2x2GB 12800 C7 with BEMP contain Hyper ic?

Zeus

12-04-2009, 11:29 AM

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist! :D

You know me too well. :D :D

Does Corsair Dominator 2x2GB 12800 C7 with BEMP contain Hyper ic?

I hope so.

I think all Dominator GT ram have. Will let you guys know soon how they fare on the Crosshair. :)

devguy

12-04-2009, 12:16 PM

I have a pair of Mushkin 996601 PC3-12800 sticks in my machine. Running with my reference clock at 300mhz, they are at stock speeds (5.33x300), but timings have been tightened to 7-6-6-18-1t. They are running at about 1.87VDimm, with max rated being 1.9VDimm. Anyone know how these scale with more voltage? I have a ram cooler fan I can put on them if needed.

Mechromancer

12-04-2009, 12:40 PM

Anybody ever try DDR3-1333 ECC on an AM3 rig? Your rig will be stable as can be even while overclocking.

AlleyViper

12-04-2009, 02:14 PM

Not allowed to comment on Ic's.

Should be good for 1680 7-7-7-24-28 or 30-1t or 1333+ 6-6-6-24-28-1t

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=387817&postcount=63

A long time ago Tony directly commented on those.

FireDragon

12-04-2009, 03:06 PM

So does anyone Yet know what IC's the G.skill Eco low voltage use? i have been lurking the mem forums alot around the web trying to figure out what 2 get, atm i have my eye on the G.skill eco's, but the Corsair Dominator kits r looking pretty top notch ( i guess they damn well should for the price!!), was hoping to get a kit of the OCZ Cas 7 AMD edition ( ur a lucky SOB Daveburt :) )

Dragon

Daveburt714

12-05-2009, 06:29 PM

neo mike

12-05-2009, 06:33 PM

What test is failing ? test 5 im guessing ?

Daveburt714

12-05-2009, 06:38 PM

Yep... Test 5 (overall around 20%). I've been loosining timings and it still keeps failing around that point. Thats why I was thinking it must be the IMC....

jpm804

12-06-2009, 12:16 AM

Hi Folks,

I went to MicroCenter Saturday and they had one 2x2 kit of the "elusive" OCZ Platinum 1600 7-7-7-24's for $125...
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr3_pc3_12800_platinum_edition

On total impulse, I bought it... HEY, it was the last one... :p:

Anyone have any clue as to what IC's it uses, or what it likes?

I'm pretty happy with it so far! I haven't really pushed it yet but this was pretty easy @ 1.7v:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Daveburt/1600OCZ.png

I realize every set is different, but suggestions are welcomed... :up:

*chew?.... :D

Daveburt714 - I was wondering which kit you had, I just noticed that yours were not the AMD specific ones.

My kit were these ones: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr3_pc3_12800_platinum_amd_edition

While the ones you linked to were these:
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr3_pc3_12800_platinum_amd_edition

Not sure if its just marketing but was wondering if the AMD ones did work better than the other platinums made due to different IC's. Looks like the only difference is the volts 1.70 vs 1.65?

When I picked mine up I almost grabbed the other platinums but made sure I got the AMD's ones to see if there was a difference and also it was hard to get at that time and doesnt look like you can get them anywhere anymore...

Zeus

12-06-2009, 12:21 AM

I've been doing quite a bit of testing on my new Mem tonight...
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr3_pc3_12800_platinum_edition

I'm not real familiar with "MemTest 4.0", but it always seems to crap out around 20% (when it goes to "Block Move")....

I could be totally offbase here, but it seems to me that could be more related to the IMC than the Memory itself. Am I right, or barking up the wrong tree?

Thanks..... Dave

Dave,

The IMC get blamed far too often for my liking when something is not right.

The memcontroller can handle 1800 CAS 7 when tweaked right and i have seen even higher than that.

Because i've had that ram myself i know it just does not run the rated specs at 1.65V!

Raise Dram ref voltage some, just start of with +12.5mV and you shoud see some improvement-- tweak from there. ;)

Mine needed 1.68V for stable operation at 1600 7-7-7 with tuned Dram ref voltage, without that it needed 1.73V

If you ran memtest86, blockmove is test 5, having that one failing on you is 99% sure ram related.

Check out the OCZ support section on this board and search for the ram you have, you will see there were more guys having the same problems.

Blitos

12-06-2009, 05:30 AM

The memcontroller can handle 1800 CAS 7 when tweaked right and i have seen even higher than that.

Excuse me for my ignorance, but how exactly can you tweak the memory controller?
In the MA790XT there's no "Dram ref voltage" option, only DDR voltage, there's no "Drive strengths" either... so the only other tweak I know is to raise the NB Vid voltage, but how much is too much?

I'm only asking because I have similar problems with the same board and memory.
Thanks!

RnR

12-06-2009, 05:33 AM

By the timings your seeing those sounds like elpida BBSE. better off to drop to 8-8-8 and run them up speed wise.......sets I tested would do 1800.I had a little time to play and I was able to get 7-8-7-24-40-2T going @1600 with 1.5v. I had to drop the ratio, from 1:4 to 3:10 and up the fsb. Or maybe the beta bios did the trick. I think 1700+ is doable... it booted at 1700 and even at 1800 at 1.65v, but then turned flaky. The ram sticks were hot to the touch (hot day too - damn summer is coming), so probably needs some active cooling. Although not sure these sticks can handle 1.65 24/7 which is what I am after. I'll keep at it as time permits. Just 1 question for anyone knowledgable... are boosting drive strengths useful for DDR3?

Zeus

12-06-2009, 05:38 AM

Excuse me for my ignorance, but how exactly can you tweak the memory controller?
In the MA790XT there's no "Dram ref voltage" option, only DDR voltage, there's no "Drive strengths" either... so the only other tweak I know is raise the NB Vid voltage, but much is too much?

I'm only asking because I have similar problems with the same board and memory.
Thanks!

I actually meant tweaking ram timings as well as drive strength values.

If you can't adjust dram ref voltage you might be able to gain some with drive strength.

If all else fails the only thing left is cranck up Vdimm.

Raising NB Vid does nothing for ram clocks.

Blitos

12-06-2009, 06:22 AM

I actually meant tweaking ram timings as well as drive strength values.

If you can't adjust dram ref voltage you might be able to gain some with drive strength.

If all else fails the only thing left is cranck up Vdimm.

Raising NB Vid does nothing for ram clocks.

Alright, AOD has the options to change drive strengths, but where do you start?
And last but not least, how much voltage is safe in these OCZ low volts kits?
Thanks a lot!

neo mike

12-07-2009, 09:41 PM

Well i scored a set of these http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-OCZ3FXE1866LV6GK-PC3-15000-Voltage-Channel/dp/B001VEJC0S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1260229874&sr=1-4 on ebay for $200 thats like half price and there brand new :clap: there elpida hypers im pretty sure, they should rock on AMD, will post when i get them.

devguy

12-07-2009, 10:00 PM

neo mike

12-07-2009, 10:04 PM

Might be hard to sell 1 stick, i dont know what i will do with it :shrug:

Chhanga

12-09-2009, 10:35 AM

getting these hope they can run on amd :) will be there tomorrow http://www.teamgroup.com.tw/teamgroup/en/productDetail.php?pd_id=421&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=59

Riska

12-09-2009, 10:53 AM

They dosent run great on amd i cant get thm to do CL6 even at 1333mhz and from 1.35-1.70v no matter what it wont boot i am on a Msi GD70 and a 965BE C3

Chhanga

12-09-2009, 11:11 AM

Crap :confused: will report back tomorrow !
They dosent run great on amd i cant get thm to do CL6 even at 1333mhz and from 1.35-1.70v no matter what it wont boot i am on a Msi GD70 and a 965BE C3

Blitos

12-10-2009, 02:57 AM

If looking to buy only 2 sticks I suggest you research there top of the line "p55 tuned" 2000+ 8-8-8 model.

So this ones CMG4GX3M2A2000C8 use Elpida Hyper ICs?
2000Mhz, 4GB Kit (2 x 2GB), 8-8-8-24, 1.65V?
Will they do 1600 6-6-6, and won't degrade?

Mechromancer

12-10-2009, 05:08 AM

Nobody is using DDR3-1333 ECC memory on their AMD setups? When I go AM3, this is the only option worth anything. BEMP is a close second, but ECC is killer.

Barr3l Rid3r

12-10-2009, 05:46 AM

Crazy stuff happening on Gigabyte 790FX-UD5P + G. Skill Ripjaws red 1600Mhz rated C9-9-9 24 1.5V

First of all, where did you guys noticed vmem droop on this mobo? Actually it overvoltage mine ram. Set 1.7V and u get 1.75V in DMM, 1.75 and I got an 1.81V!

About the RAM:

No way to get it stable working on Cas7 using 1333Mhz divider but what about Cas6 @ 1600Mhz when using 1066Mhz divider?

Even in this setting there is no way to match TRCD and TRP w/ the CAS there must be an 9 in TRCD to pass 1500Mhz, and unless an 7 for TRP.

Stability Gains can be observed when using higher voltage, anyway I only tested till 1.85V in bios wich actually gave me 1.90V (DMM). thats the only way to get it stable @1600Mhz 6-9-7. By the way I can use 1.75V and get 1600@ 6-9-8 1T.

Any hint of wich chips are them? I've paid like US$135 for 2x 2GB of them. Already in Brasil.

http://i47.tinypic.com/xapekz.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/6yz0d0.jpg

neo mike

12-10-2009, 08:22 PM

Well so far kinda disapointed with my new ocz 1866 cas 7 hypers :shrug: running 1700 cas 6 cant get rid of the memory errors, cant pass memtest :(.

FireDragon

12-10-2009, 09:28 PM

So is it better to get a 2000mhz kit rated at say 8-8-8-xx and run them at the 1600ish range with tighter timmings, or better to go for the 1600 at cas 7-7-7-24 looking at these corsair dominators for the 2000mhz end http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145266 and either these g.skillshttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303 or these g.skills http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231279 any help would b GREAT as i want to order my parts but every time i am questioning myself on the memory

Dragon

neo mike

12-10-2009, 09:45 PM

I would get the GTS Corsairs, those ripjaws are not hypers, there like bbse or somthing like that, and they dont play well with AMD, those GTS you could probally get 1700 cas 6, tighter timings are better on AMD, but you could get a 1600 cas 7 kit would be cheaper, but you wont get cas 6, so depends what you want, i want as high as i can get on cas 6.

AMD isnt like intel, were you can slap a pair of 2000 cas 8 sticks and get 2100 out of them, there is a limit of like 1910mgz or close to it, where you just cant go any higher on AMD.

FireDragon

12-10-2009, 10:26 PM

Yeah, that i do know, i wasn't sure what ic's those g.skills used.....i guess i will get that dominator kit in either the 1600mhz or 2000mhz flavor, thnks man that is probably the most solid answer/answers i have got so far for what ram to get, TY

Dragon

ps. r both of those g.skills BBSE instead of hyper i thought i read somehere that 7-**8-9**-7-24 was hyper not BBSE why i listed both of those kits

neo mike

12-10-2009, 10:35 PM

The only hypers i know of in gskill memory is the perfect storm series.

FireDragon

12-10-2009, 10:59 PM

Well i just ordered the Corsair Dominator 2000mhz Cas 8 kit from microcenter.com...now for the rest of my parts tomorrow....gonna b a bit over budget now cus of that ram.....but o well....it better b some good stuff :)

Dragon

Zeus

12-10-2009, 11:03 PM

I hope you ordered the Dominator GT's?

FireDragon

12-10-2009, 11:13 PM

yar, this ram right here https://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0318705

Figured since the ram was the only thing i was on the fence about my as well goes balls 2 the walls with it, and just get it out of the way (u watch some stupidily nice IC i going to come out in the next few weeks)

Dragon

almighty15

12-10-2009, 11:15 PM

I have Crucial Ballistix 1333Mhz @ 6-6-6-20-1T with 1.8v

Are they any good? They're actually stable stock with 1.6v, although I've never really been any good at RAM overclocking and DDR3 isn't helping me at all as I've know idea what timings to change and what to do :(

FireDragon

12-10-2009, 11:18 PM

at 1333 i think u might b able to go 5-5-5-20 ish (if your ram will even boot cas 5)

Dragon

Don_Dan

12-11-2009, 08:00 AM

Zeus

12-11-2009, 08:16 AM

That's a good decision, you'll be amazed by that kit! :yepp:

I'm not impressed by mine, only 860 6-6-5-18 with 1.65V. :D :D

This is absolutely the best ram for AMD by a long long shot!

So far i have only tested for half an hour but i'm seriously impressed! :up:

Don_Dan

12-11-2009, 08:23 AM

Yeah, that's really really bad Eugene, you should give them to me! :D

Have fun, these kits are insane! Good to see you went with the real good stuff! ;)

FireDragon

12-11-2009, 08:26 AM

Well im glad i made the right choice and didn't order one of the g.skills like i was planning on doing, From what i have heard since i have ordered this ram, i am so far def not regretting the price of it, it might have been 2x more then i was planing on paying, but im thinking i am going to have A LOT less headaches for it, ty guys (plus some damn fast ram)

And Nice numbers Zeus that is sick!!

Dragon

Don_Dan

12-11-2009, 08:47 AM

I'm looking forward to your results! :)

Maybe we should open a Dominator GT 2000C8 on AMD club! ;)

Can you do me a favor and test with voltages at stock apart from VDIMM, and frequency of everything at close to stock, and just push up your RAM speed?
I would like to see if you can hit higher speeds with C3 at those settings.

MTP04

12-11-2009, 08:47 AM

Grinder

12-11-2009, 08:49 AM

I'm not impressed by mine, only 860 6-6-5-18 with 1.65V. :D :D

This is absolutely the best ram for AMD by a long long shot!

So far i have only tested for half an hour but i'm seriously impressed! :up:

Wow, that's awesome :clap:

Unfortunately, I priced it out and it costs 2.7X what I paid for my current DDR3 a few months ago, which is running at 1666 777 1t.

(I didn't want those grapes anyway ;))

Nice.

FireDragon

12-11-2009, 08:55 AM

Well maybe Corsair can the start the Dominator Cas 8 Club for us because of the price we paid for this ram? lol, But i do have to say i am VERY happy i did order this ram vs anything else (at least so far, still need to order the rest of my parts here latter today)

Dragon

FireDragon

12-11-2009, 09:02 AM

I will b doing plenty of testing Don Dan, once all of my system arrives at home, and once it stops moving around on trucks or sitting on a warehouse rack :)

Dragon

neo mike

12-11-2009, 09:57 AM

Well i got my OCZ 1866 cas 7 4 gig kit, this is about the best i can do, but it wont pass memtest:shakes:, i think the corsair 1866 cas 7 kit is better binned chips, i have seen some better numbers with that kit. There both hyper chips, i was hoping for 1733 cas 6 stable.

FireDragon

12-11-2009, 10:07 AM

Very nice(lol that is better then u could ever get with ANY 1600 7-7-7-24 rated kit that is for sure) , is there any chance it could just b because there is a timing u have over looked/ still need 2 tweak? what test and how many errors neo mike?

Also just wondering neo mike but with mem clocks this high wont u benefit from a higher NB freq even with what your CPU speed is? eg 2.8 vs 2.6? or can u just not do that?

Dragon

KeZzZu

12-11-2009, 10:55 AM

Quick on dirty test on G.Skill ripjaw 2x2gb set, results... doh... oh and set is 2000mhz @ cl9
1.6v
Cas 6 No Go
Cas 7 +700
Cas 8 ~800 could go around 850 if voltage raised to 1.7v
cas 9 + 900 Actually i booted pc up on 940mhz but crashed on loading windows, requires more tweaking to archieve it.

Well not bad choice, better than cas9 sticks with 1333mhz.

Going to buy another kit, Any suggestions?

FireDragon

12-11-2009, 12:22 PM

If u want to spend the money it seems that Hypers r the way to go.....if not i have been recommended to the OCZ plat's more then once the 1600 7-7-7-24 version, I myself just went with what i hope 2 b hyper ic's in the Dominator gt 2000mhz cas 8, i guess it depends what lvl of performance your looking to get out of your system....as i shy'd away from the the OCZ for the Corsair (even tho it was 2x the price)

Dragon

Zeus

12-11-2009, 02:00 PM

This ram is awesome! :party:

Blitos

12-11-2009, 03:00 PM

This ram is awesome! :party:

Great! I've already ordered them, hope to get them by Tuesday :clap:

FireDragon

12-11-2009, 03:42 PM

lol, Maybe we really should start a Dominator GT 2000Mhz cas 8 club for AMD users, seems like these stick r catching on since i ordered mine, btw Zeus, and or Neo Mike can u post AOD mem screens plx, i need to start figuring out what i want to try running for timings (mostly trying to figure out the sub-timings)

Dragon

Daveburt714

12-11-2009, 11:41 PM

This ram is awesome! :party:

That's Killer Zeus! :clap:

Could you shoot us an Everest Cache & Memory bench?

Gratz on the new gear... :up:

Don_Dan

12-12-2009, 12:39 AM

This ram is awesome! :party:

What did I tell you? :D

lol, Maybe we really should start a Dominator GT 2000Mhz cas 8 club for AMD users, seems like these stick r catching on since i ordered mine, btw Zeus, and or Neo Mike can u post AOD mem screens plx, i need to start figuring out what i want to try running for timings (mostly trying to figure out the sub-timings)

Dragon

Yeah, we should go for it, since we are currently discussing in three different threads about the same topic and things get a bit messy...
If more guys are interested in making a separate topic we should open a club in the Bandwidth section.

That's Killer Zeus! :clap:

Could you shoot us an Everest Cache & Memory bench?

Gratz on the new gear... :up:

Everest should be around 10000MB/s, 7000MB/s, 12000MB/s, 44ns ( just a rough guess ).

Zeus

12-12-2009, 02:26 AM

That's Killer Zeus! :clap:

Could you shoot us an Everest Cache & Memory bench?

Gratz on the new gear... :up:

Thanks Dave, best buy in a long time!

What did I tell you? :D

Everest should be around 10000MB/s, 7000MB/s, 12000MB/s, 44ns ( just a rough guess ).

Wrong guess, not maxed out either:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/screenshots/screens2.png

More to come... ;)

Don_Dan

12-12-2009, 03:30 AM

Wrong guess, not maxed out either:

More to come... ;)

Your NB multi is one step higher than on your last pic :p:

And I didn't know we were playing with high CPU clocks....

Well, you need to push a bit more! :D

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9932/ddr31768cl665201teveres.jpg

Just teasing you of course, I want to see what C3 can do so I have an excuse to buy one myself.... ;)

Zeus

12-12-2009, 03:52 AM

Looks like i need to tighten my subtimings:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/896ram2.png

Which subtimings did you tweak?

Don_Dan

12-12-2009, 04:01 AM

Wow, almost 900MHz already! :up:

Oliverda

12-12-2009, 04:21 AM

Looks like i need to tighten my subtimings:

Which subtimings did you tweak?

You should upgrade your Everest. That is a rather old version.:D

Zeus

12-12-2009, 04:37 AM

Wow, almost 900MHz already! :up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/screenshots/900ram2.png

900 done :)

Unfortunately the CPU-NB is at the absolute edge of stabilty here, preventing me from pushing moar.

You should upgrade your Everest. That is a rather old version.:D

I think i do, maybe i get better bandwidth result then?