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Spawn-Inc
08-01-2009, 03:44 PM
so i'm going to be adding my 9800GTX back into my pc since i'm done testing blocks and want to know if the 2 true silver compression fittings i got have enough silver to act as a biocide.
here is my loop, if that matters.
res>pump>pump>rad>rad>rad>cpu>gpu
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4170/img0320oci.jpg
thanks in advance.
zeropluszero
08-01-2009, 08:09 PM
also very interested to know. i'm making a "sort of dual loop" it'll be dual loop except sharing the same res. and i have 4 :banana::banana: true silver compressions in it.
Spawn-Inc
08-01-2009, 08:24 PM
i have pt nuke already but it's the original. the way i see it both my fittings at the very least total the surface area of the silver kill coils so it should be good on it's own. water will pass by it so it should treat the whole loop. i will just add the pt nuke to be safe. i've got 4 bottles to use anyhow. when i first ordered it i had the idea of adding half a bottle per loop lol.
zeropluszero
08-01-2009, 08:39 PM
unfortunately they're only inexpensive if you live in the US.
i'm in Aust :(
RoadconeTuning
08-01-2009, 09:49 PM
all of my fittings are silver...
Kibbler
08-01-2009, 10:09 PM
also very interested to know. i'm making a "sort of dual loop" it'll be dual loop except sharing the same res. and i have 4 :banana::banana: true silver compressions in it.Technically that's a parallel loop.;)
i have pt nuke already but it's the original. the way i see it both my fittings at the very least total the surface area of the silver kill coils so it should be good on it's own. water will pass by it so it should treat the whole loop. i will just add the pt nuke to be safe. i've got 4 bottles to use anyhow. when i first ordered it i had the idea of adding half a bottle per loop lol.Four drops to 1 liter of coolant. Too much especially with ptnuke_original and the coolant becomes too acidic. With ptnuke you don't need to worry about silver fittings or killcoils, just flush and re-fill occasionally.
zeropluszero
08-01-2009, 10:13 PM
Perhaps you're right. I recently bought about 20 feet of silver coil for like twenty bucks. I think that will probably last me just about forever...
No silver dealers in Australia?
unless you want to send me some?
havent been able to find the right things on ebay, i'd like to make my own killcoils, it's all coins and bullion, and it probably wont fit in my res properly.
oh well, i'll probably just get some from petras.
unless you want to send me some?
havent been able to find the right things on ebay, i'd like to make my own killcoils, it's all coins and bullion, and it probably wont fit in my res properly.
oh well, i'll probably just get some from petras.
http://www.aemetal.com.au/Webstore/p-2545-fine-silver-sheet-04mm.aspx
Looks good to me, any good for you ?
kahuna321
08-02-2009, 08:38 PM
try this place http://www.silversupplies.com/catalog/metals/fine_silver/bezel_wire.shtml. I just ordered 24" today of the 26 gauge x 3/16" 999 silver bezel wire. Enough for 3 coils.
NaeKuh
08-02-2009, 08:51 PM
its not soley on the quantity but more the flow rate that goes past silver.
Silver loses ions over time. These ions are what kills nasties.
Anyhow, u want it located where ur gonna get flow.
As the coolant gets older, the water becomes nuked stronger.
zeropluszero
08-02-2009, 09:26 PM
having just read the other thread, does this mean that the best places for my fittings would be on the output of my pump, as this would see the most flow?
Spawn-Inc
08-02-2009, 09:55 PM
there shouldn't be that drastic a drop in flow so anywhere would be fine. but if more flow is better, then the closer the better. being that i run dual pumps i don't care. i finished my final loop and it so happens the fittings are the furthest away from the pumps. i added 4 drops to the whole loop since its a big loop.
zeropluszero
08-02-2009, 11:10 PM
as mentioned above, apparently i have a "parallell loop"
i will using a single EK res with the multi link with dual loops. thinking ill put my :banana::banana: fittings on the pump.
might look nice too.
largon
08-02-2009, 11:23 PM
Am I just seeing things or does the OP have two D5s with the first one's outlet going straight to the inlet of the second one?
Gamekiller
08-03-2009, 12:27 AM
Am I just seeing things or does the OP have two D5s with the first one's outlet going straight to the inlet of the second one?
You're not seeing things. :shrug:
largon
08-03-2009, 01:40 AM
What would be the reason to do that?
hellcamino
08-03-2009, 01:53 AM
What would be the reason to do that?
You would do that to achieve greater flow and pressure which appears to be needed as the OP has quite a bit of lift necessary in their system due to the lcs being mounted above the pc.
Waterlogged
08-03-2009, 02:02 AM
You would do that to achieve greater flow and pressure which appears to be needed as the OP has quite a bit of lift necessary in their system due to the lcs being mounted above the pc.
Actually, in a closed loop, there is no gravity. I would say the extra pumping power is for the 3 rads and the extended length tubing.
Spawn-Inc
08-03-2009, 11:04 AM
and because i had 2 of those pumps from before when i ran dual loops. i added it for redundancy. i have tested it, and i can run with no fans and 1 pump and still get decent temps. with stock clocks and prime 95 load i got temps of 50C i think it was. i will try it again with my 24/7 overclock and my gpu in the loop this time.
NaeKuh
08-03-2009, 11:19 AM
having just read the other thread, does this mean that the best places for my fittings would be on the output of my pump, as this would see the most flow?
no it would be in the res as it holds the most quantity of liquid and u would get the maximum volume area for diffusion + flow rate.
Iandh's killcoils are nice...
i use several on miyuki...
You should of seen my face when he pm'd me that he was getting sheet silver and he could roll it up into coils b4 he went public.
On haruhi however, i use a bar silver in an EK res and just let it sit there... works as an antivotex + antimicrobe. 2 for the the price of 1.
Hondacity
08-03-2009, 11:25 AM
its not soley on the quantity but more the flow rate that goes past silver.
Silver loses ions over time. These ions are what kills nasties.
Anyhow, u want it located where ur gonna get flow.
As the coolant gets older, the water becomes nuked stronger.
no it would be in the res as it holds the most quantity of liquid and u would get the maximum volume area for diffusion + flow rate.
Iandh's killcoils are nice...
i use several on miyuki...
You should of seen my face when he pm'd me that he was getting sheet silver and he could roll it up into coils b4 he went public.
dude speak turbulence...
and even if the res holds the (most quantitiy of liquid,volume would have sounded better)water..its gonna be the surface area of the silver that will matter..not the volume of the fluid...
NaeKuh
08-03-2009, 11:34 AM
dude speak turbulence...
and even if the res holds the (most quantitiy of liquid,volume would have sounded better)water..its gonna be the surface area of the silver that will matter..not the volume of the fluid...
meh... ^ this..
I think i had too much coffee.
kahuna321
08-03-2009, 01:08 PM
John at Jab-Tech told me that he is going to start carrying pure silver for making your own kill coil loops at around $4 ea. Maybe have them in stock by end of week. From what he said theyre gonna be longer and heavier than petras too- 2.11 grams verses 1.3 grams at petra.
having just read the other thread, does this mean that the best places for my fittings would be on the output of my pump, as this would see the most flow?
imo it doesn't matter where the silver is so long as it has some flow passing over it, even the need for flow may be open to debate but better safe than mouldy. The computer will probably be on for hours at a time and even when off the uptake of silver ions around the fittings will continue to the point of saturation, however long that takes, ready to be mixed around next time the pump springs into action. With 'normal' pc use this is not something to worry about.