RMA time

[shadowwind]

after fighting with a gtx 260 for 2 days it time to send it back it errors out in the main pcie slot every time it crashes the display drivers in 2 hours
running the grid and folding at home and doing nothing at all, weird so its going back the my first card that ever did that. luck of the draw i guess.:shakes:it was a stand alone vidcard that was in in the grave from the get go.

[OldChap]

What drivers ??? Both mine (260's) have errored out since I got 190.3? on them and grid running........ currently testing stock clocks

I don't remember the exact text but "nvdrxxxxx failed and has recovered" keeps coming up

[shadowwind]

ive tried all the driver 0ld and new i got 1 260 on the grid running those same drivers i just completed it error free i put the bad gtx 260 on the same board it error ed out in 20 mins it dumped the display drivers again
some thing is wrong with it.

[Naja002]

What drivers ??? Both mine (260's) have errored out since I got 190.3? on them and grid running........ currently testing stock clocks

I don't remember the exact text but "nvdrxxxxx failed and has recovered" keeps coming up

You are the 2nd person that I've found that seems to be having issues with the 190.38 drivers.....myself being the first. :down:

I just did this and I am expecting it to help: Switched back to RT (rivatuner) from Precision.

Forced the driver--Post #9 (http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=294967)

Forced the 3D performance mode. (http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/423880-howto-prevent-gtx-200-series-downclocking.html)

For some reason these cards, or software, kick into 2D mode. Apparently that is a source of errors.


I will add that I have the 190.38 driver on 2 dual gpu rigs. The i7 has always given me more of a headache then any other...and that's the rig that I have been having issues on. The ol' Q6600 has just been clicking away spitting out valid WUs.....

[OldChap]

I think I've completed just 2 or 3 wu's in the last 2 days.....I forced the driver too, I'll look at the 3d now .....thanks for that

I just posted at grid

"Mine: 260 (192) 190 drivers qx9650 x48 vista64

I get driver nvlddmkm failed and recovered which in turn causes computation error running stock clocks.

Other machine on xp and 98gtx and 182.08 no errors

using 6.6.36 as it was advised in the messages file

Thoughts anyone?"

[Naja002]

There were relevant fixes in both 6.6.36 and 6.6.37. I had all rigs on 6.6.36. I upgraded the problematic i7 up to 6.6.37 in blind hope that it may fix the issue. It seems to have fixed it, but I only upgraded yesterday...so it's hard to tell. The majority of the WUs were erroring out. The last 2 have been successful.

Apologies for not posting this above, but the upgrade is something that I just remembered doing. Been thinking about too many things in too many different directions lately.

The RT stuff I just did an hour or so ago....


BTW, 6.6.38 is out, but I don't know anything about it....

[shadowwind]

i went to the old 185.85 driver im going to try the second card again i reformatted window 7 32 bit i wasn't liking the W-7,64 it was a pain to get my audio drivers to work and when it did work it sounded like death on a tin ear.:eek: ive neglected a lot of things i needed to do this week trying to get that damn card going its got 1 more shot if it doesnt work its hammer time hmmm i got a heavy duty powermatic 12 inch cabinet saw i might feed that vidcard to then RMA IT.:shocked:hmmm good thought but no refund or replacement but i would be happy.:rofl:

[PoppaGeek]

I had alot of problems with Win7 and folding/gpugrid. I had forgotten to install the MBs Northbridge drivers and when I did things got alot better. But still not perfect. I installed Vista 64 and immediately saw a big difference. No problems since. I do not see others haveing so many problems with Win7 but if ya did not install MB drivers ya might want to try it.

Good luck

[shadowwind]

thanks poppa for reminding i didn't put chipset drivers in yet windows 7 has only been running for 4 hours.:up:

[OldChap]

I've forced 3d too now re-set the clocks back to 625 1570 1000 ....the first hour seems fine.

Off to bed now .....will report on how things go in the morning

someone mentioned core clocks being important...want to elaborate on findings so far on clocks

also....how much cpu are you seeing being used???

[shadowwind]

OC you got others on your post on the gpugrid thats having the same problems
lets wait and see if they get it fixed.

[PoppaGeek]

CPU runs 4-7%

[Paladin]

You are the 2nd person that I've found that seems to be having issues with the 190.38 drivers.....myself being the first.

Just to add balance I'll chime in that I too am running the 190.38 (beta not WHQL) on both my CUDA rigs (GTX275 & 8800GT) without issues. Both using Precision 1.7.7 and BOINC 6.6.36. I have auto fan control off and force 80% rpm.

[Naja002]

BTW, 6.6.38 is out, but I don't know anything about it....

Here's the release notes:

BOINC 6.6.38 released for Windows, Windows x64 (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=2518&nowrap=true#26200)

Seems like server-side stuff....




I've forced 3d too now re-set the clocks back to 625 1570 1000 ....the first hour seems fine.

Off to bed now .....will report on how things go in the morning

someone mentioned core clocks being important...want to elaborate on findings so far on clocks

also....how much cpu are you seeing being used???

I think that was Mike12b...:up:

Mine are using 1-2%....that's the way it should be....:up:


Just to add balance I'll chime in that I too am running the 190.38 (beta not WHQL) on both my CUDA rigs (GTX275 & 8800GT) without issues. Both using Precision 1.7.7 and BOINC 6.6.36. I have auto fan control off and force 80% rpm.

No fans here. WCed and chilled--Gpu temps bounce between 28-30C. 190.38 does seem to be running well for many people. The issues I am having are related to this i7 rig, but upgrading to 6.6.37 seriously looks to have resolved the Gpugrid issues. No errors since....:up:

[OldChap]

Well Overnight seems to have completed on one and failed on the other at 95% complete :brick:

The next 2 are at 90% + but when they finish will be I trying that 6.6.37

[Naja002]

Mine were doing the same thing: some would error out along the way, but too many were basically finished yet resulted in an error. Give 6.6.37 a try and let us know. It seems to be working well for me....:up:

[shadowwind]

good morning well i completed 1 and failed on the other gtx 260. the 1 that passed is seeing the cuda device. the failed 260 isn't seeing cuda how do i fix it so both cards are seeing cuda. it may save me a RMA if i can get this card working.

[Naja002]

What OS?

Is your desktop extended?

Any Vga dummy plugs?

[shadowwind]

os win7 32 ive got 2 monitor's plugged in extended 1and 2 both 260s are at stock clocks.

[Naja002]

the failed 260 isn't seeing cuda

Ok, well, I definitely don't understand this part^^^^. What do you mean?

Have you checked your messages tab?



os win7 32 ive got 2 monitor's plugged in extended 1and 2 both 260s are at stock clocks.

Also, it should be 1 and 3, or 1 and 4....depending upon where the 2nd monitor is plugged into.

[shadowwind]

i checked the gpugrid on the failed one its reading device 0 for cuda the one that passed reads cuda device 1 so im assuming the one that failed isnt seeing cuda i got both cards plugged in and i didn't get the option to extend the desk top it gave me 1 and 2.

[OldChap]

The next pair ....same result...1 finished, the other failed at 96%

I have now loaded 6.6.37

Shadow, I've got a card, like yours, not seen by windows and another where one side is seen sometimes other times not...nothing I've tried has ressurrected the first so yep rma it

Is everyone using cuda 2.2?

[Naja002]

i checked the gpugrid on the failed one its reading device 0 for cuda the one that passed reads cuda device 1 so im assuming the one that failed isnt seeing cuda i got both cards plugged in and i didn't get the option to extend the desk top it gave me 1 and 2.


device 0,1,2,3.....if you had 4 GPUs. It's not 0 and 1 as in "yes" or "no".

The desktop extension (1 and 2) maybe be a win 7 thing.

What driver?

What Boinc version?

Have you tried to run with only the bad card in?

Your computers are hidden.






Is everyone using cuda 2.2?

Not likely. Gpugrid itself is moving up to 2.2 this week....

[shadowwind]

sorry was out getting a mini fridge and some water cooling stuff so i got side tracked i was putting my res in the fridge and laying out the way im going to do the plumbing a poor mans water chiller i guess im going to call it if it works.


i was able to get it working with the 185.85 nvid drivers im still got the bionic 6.6.36 i haven't tried the other one yet, that second card keeps failing i might go back to vista and try that unless you got yours going with the new bionic one working i had that card all by its self at one time it didn't work im going to try it again by it self and see if it errors out. i got till monday so im going to play with it.:D

[Naja002]

i was able to get it working with the 185.85 nvid drivers im still got the bionic 6.6.36 i haven't tried the other one yet, that second card keeps failing i might go back to vista and try that unless you got yours going with the new bionic one working i had that card all by its self at one time it didn't work im going to try it again by it self and see if it errors out. i got till monday so im going to play with it.:D

I just checked that rig and I have not had any errors since the upgrade. I was running well on 185.85. I upgraded to the 190.38 and issues began. The upgrade to 6.6.37 seems to have fixed the situation. This rig is Vista 64.

If you cannot get it working by itself, then considering the past--I'd say rma is the way to go.

[OldChap]

All attempts to solve this have failed me so I'm just now installing Service pack 1 for Vista. Is there a SP2? or anything specific I should know about (Vista noob remember)

Edit nevermind I went to MS dl site for a lookaround .....presently downloading

[shadowwind]

not that i know of OC might want to check service pack 2 downloads for the vista if it out for all vista users it would be there on micro soft web.

cuda device 0 finally made a good wu i forgot to extend my monitors in the W7 screen resolution window Naja i will allow my computer to be seen as soon as i figure out why they are not seen i was playing around with the setting so it could be a easy fix.:shrug:

ok i hit the points i needed i got the what i think is a bad gtx 260 going solo now time will tell.

[Naja002]

All attempts to solve this have failed me so I'm just now installing Service pack 1 for Vista. Is there a SP2? or anything specific I should know about (Vista noob remember)

Edit nevermind I went to MS dl site for a lookaround .....presently downloading

I'm Vista 64 SP1....I have not gone SP2 yet.




not that i know of OC might want to check service pack 2 downloads for the vista if it out for all vista users it would be there on micro soft web.

cuda device 0 finally made a good wu i forgot to extend my monitors in the W7 screen resolution window Naja i will allow my computer to be seen as soon as i figure out why they are not seen i was playing around with the setting so it could be a easy fix.:shrug:

ok i hit the points i needed i got the what i think is a bad gtx 260 going solo now time will tell.


Go to your gpugrid account>GPUGRID Preferences>Should GPUGRID show your computers on its web site>yes

[shadowwind]

computers can be seen. Mark Henderson thread got me thinking about the gtx 260 throttling down to 2 d im very familiar with that with the gts250s doing it just never heard of the gtx 260s doing it but that may explain why my display driver is crashing so i setup Rtuner following the direction and im hoping that's the problem, i hate RMAing things i got my fingers crossed.:up:

[Naja002]

Any of the drivers can crash on any of the cards. I've had driver crashing issues on and off for a long time now...it doesn't always cause errors. Sometimes it's just a pita. Post #4 above has the links to the forcing driver and forcing 3D performance.

What version of Boinc are you using?

Did you uncheck "protected mode" during the Boinc install?

From what I understand it seems to be running atm, so now it's just wait and see. If it will run alone...then it should run with another card. Meaning it's not the card(s)...it's the setup. Hopefully it will run. :up:

[OldChap]

Rolled back to 182.08, cuda 2.1, 6.6.37 also now runnng vista sp1 (sp2 after the download seemed to be 32bit only)

one of these (or a combination) has allowed me to complete 2 wu's ....so far so good...through the course of the week I will try changing back 1 at a time in an attempt to identify the trigger for the failures.

[shadowwind]

ok i got 1 hour to go on that solo 260 the driver are the 185.85 it worked for the other card so i did not change it the bionic version is 6.6.36 i just repaired
it hoping that would help.so far its looking good and windows 7 isn't showing a
display crash and yes i turned on my computers to the public i got my fingers crossed and went and got my mojo bag out and put around my neck.:ROTF: time will tell:up:

ohh naja where did you get the bionic 6.6.37 i did not see it in the bionic down load section it only had the 6.6.36.:)

[OldChap]

The index of downloads is at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/ Seems a kinda good place to watch cos you can do so by date.

My second consecutive pair of wu's is nearing completion .....fingers crossed

[shadowwind]

thanks or the link OC when every thing was running good i did not look around in bionic i wished i had now. im finding some cool stuff and projects i might want to try out later on i just need to build more computers to do it thats the hard part :D


update soloing gtx 260 made its first good work unit if it get one more good one i will put the other 260 back in.

[Chumbucket843]

i switched from F@H because my card makes a loud whining noise while running it. i have been doin gpugrid for 2 days and every wu has failed at stock clocks.

[shadowwind]

i switched from F@H because my card makes a loud whining noise while running it. i have been doin gpugrid for 2 days and every wu has failed at stock clocks.

ok follow Naja posts and get bionic 6.6.37 install that first. all so get the cuda tool kit i got no clue why but it got me working. if that dont work uninstall nvida drivers and try the 185.85 reinstall the cuda tool kit and try it again. basically that what ive done for 3 days trying every driver there is
im running so far i got my first good work unit. and if you are using precision tool uninstall that all so then reinstall it after put in your new driver.its a hit and miss game good luck.

[Naja002]

i switched from F@H because my card makes a loud whining noise while running it. i have been doin gpugrid for 2 days and every wu has failed at stock clocks.

Everything you should need should be in this thread^^^^

Here's a link to the: 6.6.37 (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D) Make sure it is installed in UNprotected mode.

Use RivaTuner, Force the driver, force 3D performance. Check out the new 190.38 driver.

[PoppaGeek]

Someone needs to do a setup guide. If nothing else a list of "do not forgets". Like the unprotected mode and which versions and drivers are problems.

[shadowwind]

yup your right poppa we need a guide my writing skills stinks i tend to get way ahead of myself in the thinking game and its good in a game chess not for writing. WE NEED A DEEP THINKING GUY:yepp:

i just want to say thank you to Naja and OC for saving me a RMA i tend to jump the gun sometimes and i make people around me crazy. so thanks to all that helped.

[OldChap]

Can't get the 190 driver to work with this.......It wouldn't be so bad but for the fact it will run for anything up to almost 8 hours then crap out.

Next try is 186 drivers.... will watch them for 6 hours then if all is well let it go for 14....182.08 arn't perfect but not as bad as this.

If this fails then I'll stick to xp for gpugrid. and watch what happens when they move to cuda 2.2 or 2.3

[shadowwind]

OC have you tried the 185.85 drivers they are working good for me i just tried out the 190. drivers even with rivatuner forcing it my clocks still throttle down and error out i wish i could find a mod to prevent the power saving thing from happening on the vid card it self so i don't need software
to do it there got to be some way to mod it.

[OldChap]

This is turning into a bag of bolts...switching off tonight...will re-install windows tomorrow...maybe a fresh start...

[OldChap]

Just a thought, boys and girls, Those of you having this problem with the card dropping out midway through a wu.......Do you have a variation of pci(e) spread spectrum in bios?.....my rampage does and I've just disabled it You never know I might be lucky.

Don't know why I didn't do this before ...I always do it with cpu.

[Chumbucket843]

Everything you should need should be in this thread^^^^

Here's a link to the: 6.6.37 (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D) Make sure it is installed in UNprotected mode.

Use RivaTuner, Force the driver, force 3D performance. Check out the new 190.38 driver.

rivatuner doesnt like windows 7. i forced driver 18585 and it wouldnt let me change clocks or force 3d mode.

[shadowwind]

no it doesn't but it does like xp64 an it seems to be working. i didn't try vista or
W7 64 i figured that W7 and vista 32 are a like there was no sense in trying it.

[Naja002]

rivatuner doesnt like windows 7. i forced driver 18585 and it wouldnt let me change clocks or force 3d mode.

Glad you brought this up! :up: I did not recall having any issues with win7,so I checked. It was still running precision. So, I switched it back to RT. I did not have any issues doing so....So, maybe if you can be more specific about what's going on....we can help.

There's 2 things that need to be changed in the power users tab.

[Chumbucket843]

well when i start rivatuner it says driver signing enforcement must be disabled.

[Naja002]

Strange. I am using 185.85 on my i7 rig also. What version of RT?

[Chumbucket843]

rivatuner 2.24

[OldChap]

I had that too...just thought it was a vista thing...is it not??

[shadowwind]

OC i got it on both vista and w7 i was grasping at straws so i never thought to try an older version of rivatuner like the 2.0 i might give it a try i would like to get the 260s on the same motherboard.

[Chumbucket843]

it thinks im using vista 64.

[shadowwind]

Hello chumbucket have you tried the gpugrid forums they can help just post what you got so far they could put you in the right direction of solving it and getting you crunching.

[Chumbucket843]

i checked their forum out and it seems like a lot of people are having the same or similar problems but not many are answered. i will keep trying different things and ill let you guys know if i get it to work.

[Chumbucket843]

hey guys i got it workin on vista 64.:D

[shadowwind]

gratz:clap:

[OldChap]

But...Do you know the key?....what did you do?