Home made UV dyes

[mlwood37]

been asked buy a couple ppl to post this here so here you go -

these are all home made UV dyes that i have done.

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/052.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/050.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/043.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/036.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/038-1.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/039.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/040-1.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/041.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/005.jpg

Each glass has had not more than 3 drops in it to produce the colours. E.g the green only had 1 drop. The yellow had 3.

If you have any questions ill answer them but im sure some of you have made your own in the past.

[TheGreenFoX]

Ohh... i like the blue color one...

[JayCop]

Ummm I am thirsty. Which one taste best? JK. What did you use to make them? They all look pretty dam good.

[mlwood37]

i used Acridine Orange, Fluorescein, and some other things to make them. each 15 mil's will produce enough to do 10 to 30 Full Loops and all are up to 50x stronger than any market based ones out at the moment.

e.g green only need 1 drop per pint, yellow may need up to 4 drops per pint.

more pics

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/017-1.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/009-1.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/025-2.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/018.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/dyes/047.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/077.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/084.jpg

[Metric]

Nice dyes, saw your tutorial on Bit-Tech as well. The UV blue in the first post looks really nice :up:

How long do these last in comparison to other dyes (Feser for example) and have you ran into any dye depositing/precipitation issues?

[Laine]

Send some to SNiiPE_DoGG for testing, I've heard he's good at breaking down coolants (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226632).

Seriously though, I totaly fell in love with the green one, and I don't even like green loops. :up:

[eth0s]

Where did you get all those pint glasses, hmm? Is the local pub a few glasses short? ;)

On a serious note, what are you using to make UV red?

[mlwood37]

No there running fine. Im using pure dyes direct from suppliers so there basicly 2500% stronger than any dye you get retail such as fesser. eg 1 drop of green will do 1 pint .. god knows how many you would need from fesser range just to equal the strength i make.

Im not adding any additives or any tricks to make a week dye look strong and as long as they are run with a simple bioside they work well.

Im sending out samples tomorrow that ppl have requested to see how they go and ive made a few up in different colours as ppl's request.

If i do end up selling these dye's they will be retailing at £3.00 per (inc delv) 15ml bottle which is enough to do more loops then most people will ever use.

Got to add though these dyes will stain you system over time like all dyes.

[Moitrux]

The secret of murderjuice ??? :D

[mlwood37]

for got to add these are none acid dyes so should not have the precipitation issue. but when mixed with bioside may. This how ever is down to the user .. e.g if you use it with normal water from the tap your going to have problems.

wich we all know about . I would only use some thing like a few drops of iodine with it. All so i would go sticking it in a mixed loop of metals else some thing bad may happen that is out of my control.

At the end of the day these are simple dyes with no extras thrown in so any harm done to a system will be because a user has stuck some dumb chemical in with the dye to make them react badly.

[NaeKuh]

edit: ack didnt read..

nice color... but yeah the staining.. :\

[LOUISSSSS]

so how long until it stains my parts & permanantly stains my tubing?

Nice coloring though I've never used a dye

[mlwood37]

its all down to factors involved.

e.g say you take my dye and go nuts with a Purple colour and stick loads in then your system is running hot it wont take long before it stains every thing (cannot give a time scale).

This is the same with any colour you put in your system. If you running Clear blue it wont stain for a very long time.

If running UV green/yellow again it wont stain as much as these dyes are not as dark as others.

Like i say ALL dyes stain there is no avoidance on that and if a dye maker says they don't then they are lying because they don't know what else you are running in your system with it or if you running mixed metals or some sort of wired tubing.

I cannot give a time scale because i don't know how many drops you have in or your bioside ect ect ect.

If how every you regular clean you system then you wont have any problems to be honest. (but not many people do that they expect miracles to happen lol)

God im so honest at times.

[faster3200]

The green is amazing.

I may just try this...

EDIT: Any idea where to buy Fluorescein Fluorescent Dye? The cheapest thing I can find is some dude on ebay selling enough for 400 gallons.

[WhiteFireDragon]

No there running fine. Im using pure dyes direct from suppliers so there basicly 2500% stronger than any dye you get retail such as fesser. eg 1 drop of green will do 1 pint .. god knows how many you would need from fesser range just to equal the strength i make.

Im not adding any additives or any tricks to make a week dye look strong and as long as they are run with a simple bioside they work well.

Im sending out samples tomorrow that ppl have requested to see how they go and ive made a few up in different colours as ppl's request.

If i do end up selling these dye's they will be retailing at £3.00 per (inc delv) 15ml bottle which is enough to do more loops then most people will ever use.

Got to add though these dyes will stain you system over time like all dyes.

these look great and very bright. so i'm assuming you're from UK? would these be sold over here in the states? maybe we can do a group order and have a huge shipment to the US.

[bluehaze]

these look great and very bright. so i'm assuming you're from UK? would these be sold over here in the states? maybe we can do a group order and have a huge shipment to the US.

They sell UV dye in the U.S. people use it for parties dumping it in pools and all kinds of crazy stuff :ROTF:

Theres a bunch here: http://riskreactor.com/Fluorescent_Dyes/Fluorescent_Dyes_Main.htm

I'm sure theres quite a few more places to get it as well if you look around, not sure which if any is better than the other.

[LOUISSSSS]

its all down to factors involved.

e.g say you take my dye and go nuts with a Purple colour and stick loads in then your system is running hot it wont take long before it stains every thing (cannot give a time scale).

This is the same with any colour you put in your system. If you running Clear blue it wont stain for a very long time.

If running UV green/yellow again it wont stain as much as these dyes are not as dark as others.

Like i say ALL dyes stain there is no avoidance on that and if a dye maker says they don't then they are lying because they don't know what else you are running in your system with it or if you running mixed metals or some sort of wired tubing.

I cannot give a time scale because i don't know how many drops you have in or your bioside ect ect ect.

If how every you regular clean you system then you wont have any problems to be honest. (but not many people do that they expect miracles to happen lol)

God im so honest at times.

i see, thanks for your honesty, but i already knew that =)

how much to shop to NYC, USA?

[denice25]

very nice UV dyes!!!

[mlwood37]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCsESTt2Ikk

Little vid i did last night before i went to bed.

I can get a price to send to the US if you like but please remember thee are only sample of test products. they have no warranty as such and care must be taken at all times. These are that strong if you spill on any top it will stain.

What colours would you like and would you like them in liquid or dry power form.

Each sample will be £2.50 plus the price of the post and packing and will be sent in a sealed padded envelope.

[noobieocer]

hi mayhem :D nice to see u posted this on here too :D

[mlwood37]

hi noobieocer not normal for me to post here .. like i said before lol more read xs more than any thing else. Bit surprised at the reaction to be honest. :)

[3Z3VH]

I would think you'd need a surfactant of some sort to keep it from gumming up and settling in your blocks and reservoir.

[mlwood37]

The can be added with the biosside. This should not gum up in anyway. again its down to what you mix up your self. You can all ways blame one thing or another for gumming but its normally when you mix two chemicals that react in a incorrect manner.

[moiraesfate]

Ok, so they don't gunk up at all, and they can be used with biocide. I assume that, because they are added to swimming pools, they aren't poisonous either? I ask because I have a cat and, if something happens (hope it doesn't), I don't want it to spill and have her lick it up. Its why I was considering just plain distilled and maybe later add UV tubing. I don't like the tubing because I want the res to be the same color as the tubing (it looks better).

How much water does one of your samples color?

[mlwood37]

These are not for consumption and there for if your cat licked it up i would seek a vets advise immediately. Any thing that you stick in a water loop isn't good for Consumption.

I had some on my tongue the other day and it didn't taste very nice at all. How ever all i did was swig my mouth out with water till it was clear.

Prices are up on ebay now.

Again for those who missed this is several colour's mixed in 1 pt glass mounted on top a 2 UV leds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCsESTt2Ikk

[mlwood37]

Some samples have been sent out for testing .. will let you all know how things go with the dye's

[mlwood37]

If any one is interested in sample's please let me know.

Ill cover all costs involved as long as you tests are posted on here.

Mick

[NaeKuh]

Like i say ALL dyes stain there is no avoidance on that and if a dye maker says they don't then they are lying because they don't know what else you are running in your system with it or if you running mixed metals or some sort of wired tubing.


:up: :clap:

Thank you! And ive been saying this for a VERY LONG TIME....

However your gonna piss off all our feser one fanbase now, but dont worry i got your back. :rofl:

mlwood, how does the clear UV Blue stain look like? Im trying to visualize it... will it just turn blue or will it make your blocks glow blue?

If anything i might want to get some of your Clear UV Blue... this should be interesting...

Purple is sexy too, however i know that will stain and stain ugly it will.

[mlwood37]

Ive been running th UV now for 2 weeks coming up in a test loop in the Airing cupboard and so far it hasn't stained. I think only time will tell with that.

So far the only colour staining after 2 weeks is the bright red (deep pink mixed with clear blue) after 2 weeks of 24/7 heat and UV lights. This is with 8 drops to 1 pt which is excessive but on purpose.

The copper has a slight tone of pink on it.

I am trying to for the colours to stain in these tests to see how bad they.

What i relay need is some one with a injector Block to test these out as ive heard some dyes separate easily with in a couple of weeks and some times days.

Im how ever going to get into a fight about dyes as ive only done my own tests on other brands and my results were for me just to find out how there made and what rubbish they use to make them. lol. If people what to pay for over priced rubbish then that's up to them.

The deep red and slight red i have mixed my self to get them colour how ever will not be sold like that as they stain like hell and very quickly due to the strength of the dyes. I am waiting some info from my suppler as he has other red dyes that he can get hold off that i dont have to mix and said would not cause the staining effect as badly.

Clear blue by way if left in a very very long time i've seen it stain a slight white / blueish tone. i think how ever that is a reaction to other chems in the loop not mainly the dye itself as clear blue inst acutely classed as a dye.

[NaeKuh]

and does it have any reaction with silver?

I might want to try out your Clear UV. Id probably put a drop in all 3 of my loops.

[mlwood37]

No it should have no reaction to silver what so ever. I presume your using a silver coil in your system as the bioside.

Clear Blue will probably need up to 2 to 3 drops deepening on effect.

I can only send out samples of 5ml on the blue as alot of ppl are testing it out.

[dingdong555]

The green looks amazing!

Have you heard any results from people testing the green? (Eg, stains/clogs etc..)

[mlwood37]

evey one whats green lol ..

I have 2 samples going off to ppl with jets but i don't mind if you test another.

Until people have posted there results i don't know as i only own a XSPS delta on mine and it been running for a couple of weeks.

If you would like to test a green fire me you details and ill send you some out when the next bottles arrive.

Jeddy of oc3d is testing out the pink

pics below of him playing

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/2015668/1024/A05-log/DSCF2380-%5B640x480%5D.jpg

Theres probably about a litre of water in there
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/2015669/1024/A05-log/DSCF2381-%5B640x480%5D.jpg

3 drops:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/2015670/1024/A05-log/DSCF2382-%5B640x480%5D.jpg
5 drops:
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/2015671/1024/A05-log/DSCF2383-%5B640x480%5D.jpg
8 drops:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/2015672/1024/A05-log/DSCF2384-%5B640x480%5D.jpg

From his tests ive increased the strength a little more. so he will hit the last colour on 2 drops alone.

It takes a bit of time to get info back but that's life.

[dingdong555]

Sadly I'll have to wait until you sell the bottles and I've seen tests.

I would love to test it but I currently have a closed loop in my rig with red dye but will be doing a rebuild in the coming months, Id I had any spare gear I'd test it though!

I'm eagerly waiting for the green results :D

[mlwood37]

I can send you a sample of green and it will be with u with in 48 hours if you like.

I cannot remember what i sent. over 15 went out this morning but ive been up every night last two weeks playing my self and to be honest just lost track of time and days ...
Some samples have gone to UK some to USA and a couple to Brazil ...

Mick

[mlwood37]

If any one else would like to test Yellow and Orange dyes please let me know ill send out a free sample at NO COST TO YOUR SELF ......

all so you get a free little present ;) ....

This is a Free Be while testing is going on .....

[mlwood37]

any test coming back from some one ->


I got another bunch of dye from mayhem :D

this stuff IS REALLY STRONG.

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/2037158/1024/A05-log/DSCF2390-%5B640x480%5D.jpg

[mlwood37]

so out of the samples i sent to you guys any one got any pics of info they would like to share ....

[IFMU]

Very nice colors. Hell, even the 'pink' looked pretty cool. o_O lol

If I had any idea how soon I'd be able to get a water block for my i7 rig here I'd bug yea for something. :shrug:

I will bug you about one thing, even being a longshot.

I want a system with silver water. Yes, silver. Any idea on how to pull that one off? lol

[mlwood37]

Very nice colors. Hell, even the 'pink' looked pretty cool. o_O lol

If I had any idea how soon I'd be able to get a water block for my i7 rig here I'd bug yea for something. :shrug:

I will bug you about one thing, even being a longshot.

I want a system with silver water. Yes, silver. Any idea on how to pull that one off? lol

It can be done but if you going to use a block that uses jet i strongly advise against it as the liquid would have particles in it.

More pics ..new bottles just need to do a logo for the stickers ..


http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/001-9.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/002-12.jpg

[dingdong555]

I would love the green but I'm in Australia and don't have a "Loop" to test it in for a few months. How much would postage be to AUS??

[mlwood37]

USA is about £1.80 so i think it wouldn't cost more than £2.50 at the most.

Probably might be cheaper now im using plastic bottles instead of glass as well. I can check next time im down there to get a quote for you.

[[XC] Oj101]

IFMU: Mercury? :D

I have a quick question. If you're running coloured liquid in your loop what does it matter that it stains? The idea is to see the colour of the fluid, right? And the stains will be the same colour, right? I really don't see the problem here?

Other than that, I think it looks sweet! Especially the picture of the drop of green which has just been added to a glass of clear water.

[IFMU]

IFMU: Mercury? :D
Thought about that. BUT... so many possible issues there I don't even want to think of the crap I'd have to do to make it a viable option. lol

[mlwood37]

yes they do stain and the colour is the same as the dye. this is over a period of time unless you go real nuts and stick 8 to 10 drops in then it will happen a lot sooner.

i do have some tubing that i went nuts on to see the effect. Ill get some shots up of what it can do if you not careful later on.

[3Z3VH]

I am still waiting for my sample to arrive, though I prolly was one of the last ones to request it, and I am all the way in the US, so I imagine it may take a bit... once I get this, I will toss some pictures up !

[mlwood37]

3V3VH yeh mate it says 5 to 10 days on the postage label (just double checked).

These are some new photos ive taken today for the ebay colours. Taken quite a bit of time just for normal colours (with out UV) will do UV under glow tonight.

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/042-2.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/043-1.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/049.jpg

[mlwood37]

here is a label i knocked up. think i would need them to be laser printed to do a better job though. But i think the basic idea and the way ive made them look is oky. I need to change them caps though to sealed caps. That will come one i have enough ££ to pay for them.

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/008-10.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/009-12.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/010-7.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/012-3.jpg

[Diverge]

Very nice colors. Hell, even the 'pink' looked pretty cool. o_O lol

If I had any idea how soon I'd be able to get a water block for my i7 rig here I'd bug yea for something. :shrug:

I will bug you about one thing, even being a longshot.

I want a system with silver water. Yes, silver. Any idea on how to pull that one off? lol

use mercury ;p

edit: just saw someone else suggested that too lol

[faster3200]

I just received my batch of the green yesterday. I am waiting on a few orders to arrive and I will post pics in a loop. :up:
Otherwise I could throw up some more in a glass shots or I could put some in my current loop and you could see it in the res.

[NaeKuh]

One of u punks who took the clear UV blue sample SHOW PICTURES!!!

cuz of u guys i didnt get one and im sad.. :(

I would love closeups on your blocks or acrylic also, to see how the clear UV stains...

[mlwood37]

One of u punks who took the clear UV blue sample SHOW PICTURES!!!

cuz of u guys i didnt get one and im sad.. :(

I would love closeups on your blocks or acrylic also, to see how the clear UV stains...

Ill be ordering some more soon and ill send you one in the new bottles. Wont be for a good week or so but it will give you a chance to play anyway.

there has been a lot of bottles that went out and very few ppl have posted about them on most of the forums :( .. but that's humans for you ..

Ill take some pics of me taking the micky and dipping sections of tube and copper at 1000x the strength of the dyes to make staining happen over a 2 week periods in very hot conditions.. The clear UV hasn't stained any thing yet. There is a tiny amount of a slight yellow build up but that because i over dosed the systems. Personally i think under normal conditions its going to take a hell of a long time.

[mlwood37]

Oky some real results of staining here :-

All were left in Heated cupboard at 50 /60c for 2 weeks 24/7 in still untreated water (no anti bacteria stuff)..

All dyes were at over 1000% increased dose.

Pictures are below -

Pics of Pink dye with clear silicone tubing and copper pipe. The pip was all slightly frosted and not pure clear.

Staining to tube and tiny amount of staining to copper as in it has a slight tinge to it. This was easily rubbed off buy finger afterwards. The tubing how ever didn't fair so well but i did use cheap 25p a meter stuff ...

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/024-4.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/025-3.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/026-3.jpg

Pics of UV orange same as above. Tubing gone orange and copper hardly stained at all.

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/032-4.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/033-2.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/034-2.jpg

UV clear .. no staining at all on both tubing and pipe. (though it would but it didn't i was pretty amazed)

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/036-1.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/037-1.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/038-1.jpg

So yes over a period of time it will stain but i have gone to the extreme to make this happen and you would have to buy 10 to 15 x 10ml bottle to get the same effect in the same space of time. But i think i would rather show you that it is possible. So like ive said before its a unavoidable aspect of colouring your system and NO dye on the market for water cooling can avoid this. :up:

Im not testing out other brands though so please dont ask you can do that your self as im not going to cause any problems with any one else.

oh btw no photo editing has gone on these are straight off the camera all taken at same exposure ect ect.

[Waterlogged]

Ill be ordering some more soon and ill send you one in the new bottles. Wont be for a good week or so but it will give you a chance to play anyway.

there has been a lot of bottles that went out and very few ppl have posted about them on most of the forums :( .. but that's humans for you ..

Ill take some pics of me taking the micky and dipping sections of tube and copper at 1000x the strength of the dyes to make staining happen over a 2 week periods in very hot conditions.. The clear UV hasn't stained any thing yet. There is a tiny amount of a slight yellow build up but that because i over dosed the systems. Personally i think under normal conditions its going to take a hell of a long time.

mlwood37, Tell you what, give the ppl you sent samples to until the 15th to report in. Those that don't, post their nicks on every forum your doing this on and call them out for the scum that they are, so they'll never get another free sample. That'll teach 'em. ;):D

[faster3200]

I will have some sample pics of the green up tomorrow. If I don't please bug the crap out of me.

[mlwood37]

lol you making every one fret now. lol. If ppl don't say any thing then that's a good thing :) ..

Dont worrie no names will be posted im wont be doing that lol.

[faster3200]

lol you making every one fret now. lol. If ppl don't say any thing then that's a good thing :) ..

Dont worrie no names will be posted im wont be doing that lol.

Nah, I had planned on doing it anyway.

You were kind enough to send out samples and you are actually posting honest results of possible negatives of your products. Such a businessman certainly doesn't deserve to be screwed.

[mlwood37]

news as such

1) Looking into silver dye (to see if it can be done)
2) pearlesnt dye
3) best one Heat sensitive changing Dye.

People that do post info on there samples will get to play with the new ones as there made.

[NaeKuh]

Dude im so loving the clear UV even more now...

Yeah if i had a sample, i think ud have pictures from me already by now. :P

[3Z3VH]

Guilt-trip !!! Hehe

[NaeKuh]

well if u think about it... its like this..

he used 10x concentration, which would mean litterally 20 drops, or around 1mL.

If thats all the staining that was involved with all that dye... im sold.

I was never a bright person. My case has UV lights on the pumps as a visual tool to see if my impellers are turning.

i am down for any dye as long as it doesnt leave a noticeable stain. All the premixes ive used ended up staining.. which is why i completely avoid premix.

[mlwood37]

thnks guys i think if any one is nuts enough to put 1 x 10ml bottle into a single loop and have it on 24/7 there gonna get the same effect pretty fast.

I can say 1 thing though. the tubing doesn't half glow afterwards ...

Cheap way of making your own colour Tubing hehe.

p.s im going to have to order some more bottles ..

[NaeKuh]

I can say 1 thing though. the tubing doesn't half glow afterwards ...



will it change colors with heat like hypercolor tshirts? :rofl:

J/K...

im gonna be waiting for your clear UV as i would really like to try it out.

[3Z3VH]

Hehe, NaeKuh, it's a shame we already had the annual Subtlety awards, you'd be a shoe in ! ;)

[dingdong555]

well if u think about it... its like this..

he used 10x concentration, which would mean litterally 20 drops, or around 1mL.

If thats all the staining that was involved with all that dye... im sold.

I was never a bright person. My case has UV lights on the pumps as a visual tool to see if my impellers are turning.

i am down for any dye as long as it doesnt leave a noticeable stain. All the premixes ive used ended up staining.. which is why i completely avoid premix.

I totally agree man.

I'm getting 2 bottles myself :)

[faster3200]

Alright, some pics of the UV Green:

1 drop. Lots of light.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3594/mg0394.jpg

1 drop. Some light + UV.
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4158/mg0422p.jpg

1 drop. UV only.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8046/mg0429.jpg

1 drop. Lots of light + UV.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2880/mg0444.jpg

3 drops. Some light.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9921/mg0449.jpg

My apologize on the image quality; my setup was fairly rushed.

The big thing I noticed was that light really changes the look of the fluid. If you have a lot of bright light on it it looks more yellow than green. This effect can be mitigated by using more dye. This was apparent when I added it to my loop. The difference between one and two drops wasn't that huge and adding a third drop was barely noticeable. However, when you add a bunch of bright white light to my case the difference is very noticeable. Something to think about anyway.

Aside from that issue, which I don't think will come up too often when not taking pictures, the color is a very nice bright green. With UV light it almost perfectly matches the connectors on my DFI X58 board. Within the next 30 days I should have a more permanent build using this dye, which I will take pics of.

Be careful when handling this stuff. I don't think it is so bad when diluted (I spilled a bit out of the glass and it didn't make a mess at all), but I got some straight out of the bottle on my hand and my fingers were dyed yellow-green for about a day. Not so bad when compared to my experience with silver nitrate, but I can only imagine what it would do to clothes. Part of the double edged sword of it being strong I guess.

EDIT: HA! 11:59, told you I would get this done today.

[mlwood37]

Be careful when handling this stuff. I don't think it is so bad when diluted (I spilled a bit out of the glass and it didn't make a mess at all), but I got some straight out of the bottle on my hand and my fingers were dyed yellow-green for about a day. Not so bad when compared to my experience with silver nitrate, but I can only imagine what it would do to clothes. Part of the double edged sword of it being strong I guess.

Yup its pretty strong.

I agree under normal shaded light it does look as bright. Under white or UV it looks good.

Did i send the warning sheet with your's.

[faster3200]

Yup its pretty strong.

I agree under normal shaded light it does look as bright. Under white or UV it looks good.

Did i send the warning sheet with your's.

You did, but clearly I choose to ignore it.
Now I am off to wake my sisters up with some roman candles, wish me luck.

[TopFuel1471]

A deep purple would be nice.

Smoke on the water :D

[mlwood37]

all ready have a purple but deep purple stains. Any Deep UV colour has problems.

The best way is to make your own buy mixing colours.

[3Z3VH]

Just got my sample of Yellow this weekend, I will try it out and post a review this week !

[mlwood37]

r u sure its not yellow/green you asked for .... I think i sent you out yellow green lol ...

Clear blue back in stock.

I need to make clear pricing now as bottles are a little cheaper. All so testing out new colours.

[mlwood37]

New colour ready for selling is

Green ... (not yellow / green) just pure green.

This is not as strong a green as the yellow / green but seem to be much nicer colour and a little sharper. Will do some pics ect ect to show it off.

[dingdong555]

Looking forward to the pics :)

[3Z3VH]

r u sure its not yellow/green you asked for .... I think i sent you out yellow green lol ...

Clear blue back in stock.

I need to make clear pricing now as bottles are a little cheaper. All so testing out new colours.

You definitely sent me the regular yellow. When I first opened the bottle, it looked blood red, and I thought to myself "WTF ?! Did he send me Red by accident ?" Then I put a couple drops in a glass ;)

First impressions on the Yellow:
- You do need more dye to get your desired colour with this light of a dye. The test loop I put it in (about a one liter loop) took nearly 5 drops to get a good yellow colour out of it in high-light situations.

- If you have any light shining through the liquid from behind, it will look pink. Not quite sure why it refracts pink, but it does. Reminds me of Pink Lemonade when I had the light source behind the liquid.

- If you are using purely reflective lighting (the light source is on the same side of the reservoir/tubing as the viewer) then it has a distinct yellow colour. Adding more dye makes it a nice shade of orange, that resembles an almost-ripe orange (the fruit, in case you didn't catch on).

- When you first add this dye to your loop, make sure you give it time to mix and circulate through the loop. The colour increases in intensity as the last remaining dye that was floating on the surface of your res finally dissipates throughout the loop. Put in the recommended amount of dye first, and let the loop sit for 10 minutes or so before determining if it is too weak. I made the mistake of adding dye to the res and just agitating it, then putting more in, until I got the desired colour, and after 15 minutes the colour was MUCH darker and more solid than it was before.

Now, all I need is a night where I am not busy, and I will do some UV testing, and a bunch of pictures !

[faster3200]

When you first add this dye to your loop, make sure you give it time to mix and circulate through the loop. The colour increases in intensity as the last remaining dye that was floating on the surface of your res finally dissipates throughout the loop. Put in the recommended amount of dye first, and let the loop sit for 10 minutes or so before determining if it is too weak. I made the mistake of adding dye to the res and just agitating it, then putting more in, until I got the desired colour, and after 15 minutes the colour was MUCH darker and more solid than it was before.

I noticed this too. I think this is a pretty fair warning for all of these highly concentrated dyes.

[mlwood37]

Arr. cool you got "that sample" .. I haven't put it up for sale yet hehe.

I must have just got that the day before you asked.

Yes i agree is a very light yellow and has a pink shine through it (that's the UV part kicking in)...

Will be interesting to see you pics.

[NaeKuh]

mlwood when u do, make sure u do it in the F/S section and not here.

Or let someone else know where they can post where to buy it.

You being the creator, can not put a price nor sell in this section without getting a hard spanking from the mods.

Giving samples is cool, but sale in a LC thread is strictly prohibited.

BTW when u get more blue in let me know. Id like to pick one up.

[mlwood37]

np my fault getting carried away.

got to add some thing funny though

I sold a few on ebay and got a complaint back, the lad bought green and was asking why it wasn't green / yellow. i asked him how much he put in and his answer was the full bottle.

I refunded his money ....

[mlwood37]

pics of the new green ->

lime green i think ill call it.

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/020-4.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/026-4.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/027-4.jpg

Diffent amounts used to create the effects.

Two samples will be up for offer of this.

Pref will be given to ppl who have shown interest before or show samples. 2 x 10ml bottles once the new bottles have arrived.

[rambler358]

Would this stuff work for creating UV red?
http://riskreactor.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RR&Product_Code=IFWB-C71OZ&Category_Code=IFWBOZ

Or can the same thing be had somewhere else for less?

[mlwood37]

Would this stuff work for creating UV red?
http://riskreactor.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RR&Product_Code=IFWB-C71OZ&Category_Code=IFWBOZ

Or can the same thing be had somewhere else for less?

Yes that stuff is perfect .. when diluting. put it in about 1 ltr of water and you will only need 1 drop of what you make.

[dingdong555]

mlwood37, with mine, I'd still like the blue, I also think I'd like the "Lime Green" but how man drops did you put in the glass on the far right? Could you please take a pic under UV?

Thanks!

[NaeKuh]

i think u gave all your clear UV to the wrong people dude.

i still have yet to see one person show off clear UV.


mlwood37, with mine, I'd still like the blue,

Thanks!

GRRRR wait in line... :P

Seriously tho, will someone who got a clear UV please show it off.

Its very rude to get a sample and not show it off.

[dingdong555]

i think u gave all your clear UV to the wrong people dude.

i still have yet to see one person show off clear UV.



GRRRR wait in line... :P

Seriously tho, will someone who got a clear UV please show it off.


I'm in line :D

Also, ml, the dyes don't have ethylene glycol in them do they? They'll be ok to run in acrylic or polycarbonate right?

[mlwood37]

yup there is no ethylene glycol in them, there just pure dyes.

[mlwood37]

NaeKuh . what's you location.

Once new bottles arrive I will send you samples.

1 clear blue , 1 green, and if you fancy getting creative ill send you out a few others (pink , red, yellow , green yellow) and if you do picture and go nuts and tell the truth (that's all im after). i then add you to the top of the list for the Heat changing dye and pearlesant (once we get the mix rite).

were i went wrong last time was i just sent out to first ppl that asked. you live and learn. The clear blue only 1 was sent to a forum member on here and another to other forum members on other sites.

[dingdong555]

Well, good news is I'm redoing my computer soon than I thought so when I get mine, I can have pictures up within a a few weeks I hope :)

[rambler358]

yup there is no ethylene glycol in them, there just pure dyes.
Is there any difference between Ethylene Glycol and Propylene Glycol - is one worse than the other in affecting bonding resins?

[3Z3VH]

...
Its very rude to get a sample and not show it off.

+1

So far, Faster and I are the only ones who have even given feedback. I still have to post pics of mine though, Faster beat me to that part ;)

To any of the other people who got a sample, and subsequently haven't posted a thing about them, it would be a good idea to do so. I would not think poorly of mlwood if he posted a list of names of those who received samples ;)

[Waterlogged]

mlwood37, Tell you what, give the ppl you sent samples to until the 15th to report in. Those that don't, post their nicks on every forum your doing this on and call them out for the scum that they are, so they'll never get another free sample. That'll teach 'em. ;):D

I still say this is a viable option. http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/ruinkai/FIREdevil.gif

[mlwood37]

Guys im not here to criticize human nature. :)

As for samples like ive said a few (30+) went out to different forums and ive only had feed back from 4/5 peeps so its not a problem for me.

I wont say who got them or harra's them. To me no comment means its fine lol ...

Ive show what can happened if you go nuts with the stuff and any problems that may occur is over used.

When the new bottles arrive ill send some more out to reputable for members who request it but until then lads we all have to wait. sorry.

These things take time ...

[CyberDruid]

Have you had a chance to test these against some acrylic? Perhaps just dunk a small piece of 1/4" thick acrylic in a glass and leave it for a few days? I ask because I have had some scarey reactions in acrylic with certain fluids. Instant crazing etcetera. If you need some bits of acrylic I can post them to you PM.

[mlwood37]

Im running a res on my system with this dye with no problem but then again i havent gone mental with the sye's

I would say this will leak into any cracks but should have no real effect as its a pure dye compared to any achole based dye that helps ware the res over time.

How ever ill go out and buy some and do the same test as i did with cheap last resort tubing :).

Best to be safe than sorry.

[faster3200]

Have you had a chance to test these against some acrylic? Perhaps just dunk a small piece of 1/4" thick acrylic in a glass and leave it for a few days? I ask because I have had some scarey reactions in acrylic with certain fluids. Instant crazing etcetera. If you need some bits of acrylic I can post them to you PM.

As you can see in my pics, I have had it running in my loop with my MCRes and have had no issues. I did a bit of research on the chemical I have and apparently doctors use it as a tracer in people's eyes, so it seems like pretty harmless stuff.

This is just the green, I can't speak about the other colors.

[NaeKuh]

RAWR im ready to go.

Just give me the UV dye....

:wasntme:

[Diverge]

RAWR im ready to go.

Just give me the UV dye....

:wasntme:

Me too 4 uv blue, I'm camping mlwood37's ebay listing's :p:

[mlwood37]

Still awaiting bottles. (starting to get annoyed) .. Ive fired of a couple of emails asking were they are.....

[dingdong555]

Typically how many loops would 1x10ml bottle do?

[mlwood37]

using 1 drop per loops you ll be looking at about 60 to 70 loops. using 2 drops about 30 to 40 loops. ect ect

1 bottle will last a very long time. This all so depends on what you and some one else calls a drop. I say though up to 50 loops.

The lads that received the samples will be able to confirm this as they all received 10ml bottles. This is the same as what im selling.

[faster3200]

The lads that received the samples will be able to confirm this as they all received 10ml bottles. This is the same as what im selling.

Yep, I have a 10ml bottle.

I want to reiterate how important it is that you let this stuff properly mix before adding more dye. I just did a temporary setup for my comp while I am busy modding the case and added 1 drop just to test. It still looks very bright. On small-average loops one drop is all you will probably need. On larger loops you might need 2-3 depending on how strong you want it.

[3Z3VH]

It also depends what colour you get. I am sure the lighter colours will need more dye.

[faster3200]

It also depends what colour you get. I am sure the lighter colours will need more dye.

True, I forgot to add with UV green.

[mlwood37]

Yeh ive been checking out the clear UV blue. i reckon you would need maybe a extra couple of drops to get what i would consider a nice clear effect.

Seemingly ppl are after the clear UV blue quite alot.

The UV green / yellow is a good seller i must admit.

[mlwood37]

hmmm

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/21111-5393-3ww-l-1.jpg

Lets the pic say it all.

[dingdong555]

errr...I got no idea.

[mlwood37]

its pearlesant dye (well not really a dye a mix)

[mlwood37]

Just been informed this morning due to a order error (on there part) the bottles will be sent this Wednesday ....

[dingdong555]

So you'll receive then about when? :)

[mlwood37]

Hopefully Thursday or Friday. They ran out of filler caps ,

I only ordered 100. I found a new place but i have to buy 3600 (bottles) a go which is more than i would need.

[mlwood37]

bottles supposedly arriving today some time.

If they do ill have

Clear blue, red, green, orange, pink, green, yellow / green

How every clear blue will be in very short supply. This is the most expensive dye to make.

[mlwood37]

Oky been speaking to some shop owners and the like and the first thing that came back is it strong and that a 10ml bottle is way to much as they would never get repeat customers.

So there is 2 things to consider

1) water it down . but this option will kill the idea behind the dye.
2) Make it smaller with less dye ... (this is what im going to do)

Im going to wait till the new delivery method arrive which is going to blow your minds if it works ;) ....

[faster3200]

Oky been speaking to some shop owners and the like and the first thing that came back is it strong and that a 10ml bottle is way to much as they would never get repeat customers.

So there is 2 things to consider

1) water it down . but this option will kill the idea behind the dye.
2) Make it smaller with less dye ... (this is what im going to do)


I was actually wondering about that when you mentioned how many loops that tiny sample could fill. I am glad you decided to pick #2, definitely the more honest move.

I have this running in my temp loop with clear tubing and it looks very nice. People have even commented on how awesome it looks. This is all with one drop. Would anyone be interested in pics?

I have always been a straight distilled guy, but this stuff has really changed my mind. Hopefully it proves this amazing in the long run.

[CyberDruid]

So not to be a douche but how is it that you are able to run a thread about selling dye with 52 posts here? I've been here for years and would not even think of promoting my business on the forum without permission from FUGGER (the owner). It's one thing to show off what you do..another to sell off of the FS section here.

Sorry but I just have to wonder what's up.

I don't see anyone else doing this...

[Oberon]

Oky been speaking to some shop owners and the like and the first thing that came back is it strong and that a 10ml bottle is way to much as they would never get repeat customers.

So there is 2 things to consider

1) water it down . but this option will kill the idea behind the dye.
2) Make it smaller with less dye ... (this is what im going to do)

Im going to wait till the new delivery method arrive which is going to blow your minds if it works ;) ....

You could basically just sell eye droppers with dye in them :D

[mlwood37]

I was actually wondering about that when you mentioned how many loops that tiny sample could fill. I am glad you decided to pick #2, definitely the more honest move.

I have this running in my temp loop with clear tubing and it looks very nice. People have even commented on how awesome it looks. This is all with one drop. Would anyone be interested in pics?

I have always been a straight distilled guy, but this stuff has really changed my mind. Hopefully it proves this amazing in the long run.

Yeh would love to see the pics mate.


So not to be a douche but how is it that you are able to run a thread about selling dye with 52 posts here? I've been here for years and would not even think of promoting my business on the forum without permission from FUGGER (the owner). It's one thing to show off what you do..another to sell off of the FS section here.

Sorry but I just have to wonder what's up.

I don't see anyone else doing this...

Its called sample testing. I have sent out a load of free samples to these guys at cost to me (so far over 50 samples have now gone out (50 x £3.50 work out who's paying the costs)). and im getting feed back from a well known community that will tell me if its rubbish. Im doing this on 4 forums and getting reliable info back to help in the design and fluid content. Any items i do sell are vis ebay or other methods.

. the people that received the dyes only have to let me know how they feel. for people not testing them can get them else were cheaply enough. But if didn't test them before hand then i would be shooting off my own foot.

e.g the new pealesnt dyes has gone out to 5 testers this week for feed back.

In fact i think if i got any more honester with people id explode.

[mlwood37]

New Pealesnt Mix should arrive next Friday.

This will be using a fine grade of chemicals so that it can be used in Jet stream blocks with out any problem (hopefully).

Heat changing dye not working as planned. Need more work on it.

[mlwood37]

Mayhem's biocide

Oky who would like a sample of my new biocide stronger than PT Nuke (much better as well).

1 drop will do 1.5 ltrs of water.

3 samples ready to be handed out Just leave you names below and pm me your address.

You must post you results how ever on here ...

No one less than 100 posts (sorry)

[faster3200]

Mayhem's biocide

Oky who would like a sample of my new biocide stronger than PT Nuke (much better as well).

1 drop will do 1.5 ltrs of water.

3 samples ready to be handed out Just leave you names below and pm me your address.

You must post you results how ever on here ...

No one less than 100 posts (sorry)

Does the biocide work with the UV dye?

[mlwood37]

Yup it works with any dye.

Again as with all mayhem products this is strong.

10 ml is is enough for 100x water cooling loops.

[faster3200]

Yup it works with any dye.

Again as with all mayhem products this is strong.

10 ml is is enough for 100x water cooling loops.

Is it clear or is it tinted any color? If it is tinted I would love to see pics.

I will post my pics of my temp setup when I get access to a camera. My mod should also be done in about a week which will feature a generous amount of your dye if all things go according to my head.

[mlwood37]

Its tinted blue so i can see its different from other dye's lol. How ever you'll not notice it as only 1 drop is needed per 1.5 Ltrs of water ....

quick vid of clear blue more to come ->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39mFUMbqmlI

[mlwood37]

more colours ...

UV bright blue and Bright Blue .. Let the pics speak for them selfs ..

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/DSCF5243.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/DSCF5245.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/NormalBlue.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/UVBlue.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/testMix.jpg

[mlwood37]

all work and no play ....

Picture's Under normal Home light :-

Mayhem's Biocide / inhibitor

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/Biocide.jpg

Mayhem's Bright Blue

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/Blue1.jpg

Mayhem's UV Bright blue under black light.

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/DSCF5245.jpg

Mayhem's Red (no bottle pic atm)

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/DSCF5345.jpg

Mayhem's UV Green (left) UV Yellow / Green (right)

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/Yellow-green.jpg

Mayhems UV Green under black Led

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/DSCF5298.jpg

Mayhem's UV Yellow / green under black Led's

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/DSCF5303.jpg

Mayhem's Deep Purple / Black

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/blacpurple2.jpg

Mayhems UV orange (Left) UV Pink (right)

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/orangepink.jpg

Mayhem's UV Pink under black light

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/DSCF5321.jpg


Ive got more coming .. bit bugged atm to do them all.

Any pics from you guys of the samples i sent out 0_o

[dingdong555]

My haven't got here yet obviously!!!

But god daym! The black + red are amazing!!! I'll be buying some of them when they hit retail for a client build.... AMAZING man.

[mlwood37]

the black isnt really a black is just deep purple (very deep lol). It takes quite a few drops to achieve that (about 5 to 6 per pint). All so there no UV active wich is why the colours are better.

The colours look much better in real like than on here. Its looks a little bland on the pics.

Your samples shouldn't be to long :).

[dingdong555]

Do you think the black will stain really quick as it's a very strong dosage?

[mlwood37]

Do you think the black will stain really quick as it's a very strong dosage?

No it wont due to the way its been made and the chems ive used to make it.
It will stain just like other dyes over time.

After testing in a 1.5 Ltr loop is take between 5 to 8 drops depending on how black would like it.. Dont forget im using the same stuff the likes of fesser use only much stronger.

Fesser and all these other company's don't buy these and make them up they buy them pre made and just bottle up and sell. Mine are made from the ground up.

The biggest difference between me and them is i don't have a big name but after sending out samples to shops i can tell you that so far they seem to be happy (esp with the brightness). There is lots of testing going on by them selfs in comparison to other dyes on the market. If every thing goes well you'll see a mayhem's range hitting the shops in different forms.

[dingdong555]

Awesome man, hopefully they don't stain within a year :S

[mlwood37]

excuse the kitchen these are pre mixed samples. With every thing a Good water cooling system needs ->

Just pour and go ....

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/mlwood2008/DSCF5355-1.jpg

I have quite few more colours than this but its a good idea to just show a small sample of the range i have made :) ....

[dingdong555]

That is freaking awesome, looks a lot better than the FeserOne range, the colours are much "deeper"

[Jon K]

Mlwood37 - could you mix the purple and pink to match this color somewhat?

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/computerpurple2.jpg

[mlwood37]

Yeh that colour not that hard to achieve to be honest.

How ever that under none UV. But under UV it would look completely different.

[mlwood37]

That is freaking awesome, looks a lot better than the FeserOne range, the colours are much "deeper"

Thank you as you can see there is no light tricks neither. Im still working on more colours as i need to make more UV active. Its not easy getting the right mix. If i make it to strong on pre mixed it will stain your system fast and im trying to avoid this. If i make it to week it looks rubbish. :) So its all about getting the rite balance.

e.g in the pic the red, blue, purple , deep purple (black) are none UV active.

The yellow , green , pink , orange, red / Yellow are uv active.

Like i say how ever i have more but im keeping them off pics for the moment.

As a side note. No more samples will be offered up on the forums here as users don't seem to be responding. I have reliable people now who have been giving me feed back and pictures. Sorry guys blame you own users who have shot them self in the foot. when you send out over £300+ worth of stuff and only get about 5% feed back you don't bother sending out more.

[repsol_23]

I recieved mine a couple of weeks ago, but my digital camera isn't working anymore. I took some pics with my cell, but they don't look too good and don't do the dye any justice. Here is the best pic I could come up with.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9505/casepic.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/i/casepic.jpg/)

[d50man]

i just woulding risk it to look good but stain my loop

[mlwood37]

I recieved mine a couple of weeks ago, but my digital camera isn't working anymore. I took some pics with my cell, but they don't look too good and don't do the dye any justice. Here is the best pic I could come up with.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9505/casepic.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/i/casepic.jpg/)

That may have been taken with a phone But my god does that glow. I knew my stuff was better but hell that positively looks radio active. Homer would be proud :) ....

How many drop was that if you dont mind me asking and how much fuild do you have in there. It looks to me if you running a 3 x 120mm then probs be close to 1.5 Ltrs or 2 ltrs.

[repsol_23]

That may have been taken with a phone But my god does that glow. I knew my stuff was better but hell that positively looks radio active. Homer would be proud :) ....

How many drop was that if you dont mind me asking and how much fuild do you have in there. It looks to me if you running a 3 x 120mm then probs be close to 1.5 Ltrs or 2 ltrs.

Actually, I think it's closer to 750cc. I say this because prior to using your dye (w/ distilled) I was using thermaltake uv green fluid. It comes in a 1 Liter container and I used almost 3/4's of it or roughly 750cc. I was using this fluid for the better part of 6 months prior to purchasing your dye. When I first got the dye I just added 2 drops to my loop and it brought back the bright green immediately. I assume it may have lost its vibrance due to time. I currently am using 4 drops in my loop. My loop is also quite bright because I use uv green tubing also, but the res reflects the color of the dye with uv light in front of the res. Must say I am happy with my results. I will be purchasing some uv blue and inhibitor soon!!

[mlwood37]

that's cool. Its certainly very very bright and i don't get that effect my self so you made go and order some new UV lights lol ...

The UV clear Blue and UV blue are not as bright as the Green and yellow due to UV blue can only hit a certain wave length. There are two UV wave lengths for Ultra violet and that is high and low, most PC gear is made for the high wave length yet UV blue is more reactive in the lower band but since no one ever uses this in there systems your never going to get a perfect UV blue all though i think ive come as close to it as i can.

I was reading Certain other makers of UV water cooling liquids and they spout of some right trash that there stuff is created by people at uni were as i have two chemists helping me out create these. But it means nothing as the end product is all that counts.

[W34513]

that red is soooo sexy. i would love to get my hands on some. i used to have a blue/green theme to my loop, but decided to switch over to red/blue recently. how could i get some?

[dingdong555]

I'll post some pics ASAP guys. :)

[mlwood37]

that red is soooo sexy. i would love to get my hands on some. i used to have a blue/green theme to my loop, but decided to switch over to red/blue recently. how could i get some?

Sorry i cannot say on here what is for sale and not for sale this thread is just for Deving them and to show off the range im working on.

Sorry must stick to the rules else some people get a little annoyed.

[algorhythm]

SURPRISE!

I've got a quick review! And I didn't even get a sample! :eek:

I simply did the next best thing and stole Faster3200's sample!

I was very impressed with this dye. I put 2 drops in my rather short CPU loop and really can't imagine putting much more in. It does, as others have said, take a while to filter through (an hour or so for me). The UV reactivity is great, and it's a solid color. Other people were correct in that 10mL of this stuff is a ridiculous amount.

Some (mediocre) shots of it in action:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1566/img0244m.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/i/img0244m.jpg/)

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3285/img0245yn.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/i/img0245yn.jpg/)

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1002/img0246n.th.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/img0246n.jpg/)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/748/img0250of.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/img0250of.jpg/)

The last one is through my green tinted case window in the dark; very sexy.

I will probably buy some of this die when it goes on sale.

[Zehnsucht]

Good stuff mlwood37 :up: I'd like to see how the clear/light blue UV looks like in UV.

It's nice to see how honest you are with the staining. That earns buying points from me.

Also a huge 1up for your "accelerated stain time"-tests.

I've never used any colored liquid, but I might want to opt for one in my next build, using a dual bay res and just having clear water would look so boring, and maybe not even notice that there is water in it at first glance.
Your options are so far my #1 pick from what I've seen and read so far in this thread.

[Diverge]

I need some suggestions for the amount of clear UV blue drops I should put in my loop. I just redid the whole water loop, and used a little less then a 1/2 gallon of distilled water. First I put like 4 drops, and hardly see any color in my T3 res w/ the lights out. then I put like 4 more (8 total) and I still don't see much.

I put like 4 drops in a 1/2 filled 0.5L bottle of water (so I guess like 0.15L of water) as a test, and can see it. It's not crazy bright or anything.

Are my expectations too high, or am I just not putting enough in?

[mlwood37]

Clear UV blue is very strong but if your lighting isnt good you not going to see much. 1 to 2 drops is enough for most loops blue clear UV blue needs excellent UV lighting to work well.

Been on hols just got back.

[Spawn-Inc]

excuse the kitchen these are pre mixed samples. With every thing a Good water cooling system needs ->

Just pour and go ....



I have quite few more colours than this but its a good idea to just show a small sample of the range i have made :) ....


man, i sure am thirsty for some koolaid. looks good!

[Diverge]

Clear UV blue is very strong but if your lighting isnt good you not going to see much. 1 to 2 drops is enough for most loops blue clear UV blue needs excellent UV lighting to work well.

Been on hols just got back.

I must have like 30 drops in my loop now (no exaggeration) lol. I still can see any color in my T3, even if i put the cathode right behind it.

[mlwood37]

Send me a PM with you address ill send you some new stuff out.

Im surprised its not working for you as its all ready the strongest UV Clear blue out there. But what ill do just for you ills end you a new sample out that 50X stronger than what you have. You will only need 1 drop per 1.5 Ltrs of water.

I can only send you a few Mls in sample though because of how strong it is and if that doesn't work for you ill drop down dead.

Weve already tested out clear blue against every other brand on the market and trust me NONE come close.

[Diverge]

Send me a PM with you address ill send you some new stuff out.

Im surprised its not working for you as its all ready the strongest UV Clear blue out there. But what ill do just for you ills end you a new sample out that 50X stronger than what you have. You will only need 1 drop per 1.5 Ltrs of water.

I can only send you a few Mls in sample though because of how strong it is and if that doesn't work for you ill drop down dead.

Weve already tested out clear blue against every other brand on the market and trust me NONE come close.

I PM'd you my info. Here's some crappy cell phone pics.

My case, and T3 from the front:
http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k464/Diverge75/th_0918090154.jpg (http://s327.photobucket.com/albums/k464/Diverge75/?action=view&current=0918090154.jpg)
A side view showing how nicely the tubing glows, and where the uv lights are.
http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k464/Diverge75/th_0918090155.jpg (http://s327.photobucket.com/albums/k464/Diverge75/?action=view&current=0918090155.jpg)

And a pic of a little test I did with a small amount of water, and like 10 drops of dye:
http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k464/Diverge75/th_0918090156.jpg (http://s327.photobucket.com/albums/k464/Diverge75/?action=view&current=0918090156.jpg)

And here is a side by side of the same bottle, next to regular water, with the uv light positioned right behind them both:
http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k464/Diverge75/th_0918090158.jpg (http://s327.photobucket.com/albums/k464/Diverge75/?action=view&current=0918090158.jpg)

I know the pics are crappy, and don't show much. But at first, I put a couple drops in that bottle of water, and barely saw a faint blue glow, then I upped it to like 4 drops, and it was a little better.. then I upped it to like 8-10, and it didn't really get more blue then it was at 4.

In my actual loop, I see nothing in my T3, no blue whatsoever. First I put like 4 drops in, didn't see anything. So I put 4 more last night, and let it run all day thinking maybe it would mix. came home from work and still nothing. so I went crazy and put like 20+ more drops in it, and still see nothing. :confused:

[dingdong555]

Here is 1 drop of GREEN + GREEN/YELLOW. This stuff is VERY strong! More updates as soon as my LED strips get here.

http://i29.tinypic.com/2qdrkwi.jpg

[Alien Grey]

That UV green dye looks really awesome.:up:

I've been running for more than a year without any dye after my experience with Swiftech HydrX.:down:

I'm looking for an UV green dye that doesn't come with any other chemicals mixed.:yepp:

[dingdong555]

That UV green dye looks really awesome.:up:

I've been running for more than a year without any dye after my experience with Swiftech HydrX.:down:

I'm looking for an UV green dye that doesn't come with any other chemicals mixed.:yepp:

This is probably your only option then :)

[Alien Grey]

I've been running fine for the past year with océ cooling liquid. It's a coolant for océ digital printing machines.

I's already green as you can see in the picture but it isn't UV reactive.

http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq32/Alien-Grey/occoolingliquid.jpg

It contains water, propylene glycol, sebacic acid, disodium salt, benzoic acid, potassium salt and borax.

I would like to make it UV reactive.

Is it possible to do that with this mixture of chemicals?

If it's possible what UV dye should I try to add to it?

[dingdong555]

Personally, why not just use the dye with distilled water + a drop of PT Nuke if you're worried about algae.

[mlwood37]

It contains water, propylene glycol, sebacic acid, disodium salt, benzoic acid, potassium salt and borax.

and a partridge in a pear tree ........

That is close to the same stuff the Some other company's use in there products.How ever turning it UV will be disastrous to the liquid and is not worth it.

Ive pulled all sales of my Dyes for the moment as im working on making them better. Ive repacked them and im all so working on making them even more UV reactive.

[Alien Grey]

and a partridge in a pear tree ........

That is close to the same stuff the Some other company's use in there products.How ever turning it UV will be disastrous to the liquid and is not worth it.

What would happen if I turned it in UV?

[mlwood37]

Your gonna get brake down. The UV will react with the propylene glycol and you will get partials appearing in the loop. This in turn will block you water cooling blocks and create a build up if you don't get the right mix. Personally avoid like the plague.

If you going to Do it regardless of what im telling you, you will need to use a Acid based dye so that it will mixed well. If you use a water based dye it will brake up with in days.

Personally it up to you self some time's a cheap alternative will tun out to be expensive repair in the long run.

[Alien Grey]

Your gonna get brake down. The UV will react with the propylene glycol and you will get partials appearing in the loop. This in turn will block you water cooling blocks and create a build up if you don't get the right mix. Personally avoid like the plague.

I know what you mean.


If you going to Do it regardless of what im telling you, you will need to use a Acid based dye so that it will mixed well. If you use a water based dye it will brake up with in days.

Personally it up to you self some time's a cheap alternative will tun out to be expensive repair in the long run.

I'm not going to try it. I just wanted to know what would happen if I would turn it in to UV.

If I'm using distilled water with a drop of PT Nuke does this also protects against corrosion or do I also need something else if I want protection against corrosion?

[mlwood37]

I know what you mean.

If I'm using distilled water with a drop of PT Nuke does this also protects against corrosion or do I also need something else if I want protection against corrosion?

You need a inhibitor for corrosion PT Nuke is a biocide. The two main things to run in loops are 1 biocide and 2 inhibitor. and water of course. every thing else after that is for looks only.

[Alien Grey]

You need a inhibitor for corrosion PT Nuke is a biocide. The two main things to run in loops are 1 biocide and 2 inhibitor. and water of course. every thing else after that is for looks only.

What inhibitor should I use with PT Nuke?

Do I need one if I don't have mixed metals? Everything is copper.

What about using a silver coin instead of PT Nuke? Some guys say it's even better than PT Nuke.

I'm asking a lot of questions but I want to be sure that I don't mix anything that doesn't work together.:D

[mlwood37]

if not useing mixed metals you dont need inhibitor just use PT nuke will be fine.

Ive been checking out the clear UV Blue that was sent out. there is nothing wrong with the samples ppl have bought you need to use a good UV light Some CCFL (cheap ones are crap).

Under each glass i have 4 high powerd Black light Leds. When it was compared to competitors UV Clear Blue 1 to 2 drops was only need per 1.5 Ltrs of water.

If how ever your not satisfied with it please send back for a full refund (if bought on e bay).

[Alien Grey]

I can't buy PT Nuke in Belgium.:(

I'm going to try with a water wetting agent.

It has a corrosion inhibitor and protects against algae and lowers the surface tension of water.

Dosage; +/-5%

Cont.: 5-Chloro-2-Methyl-3(2H)-Isothiazolinone-2-Methyl-3(2H)-Isothiazolinone

Would it be possible to use an UV dye with this product?

[Waterlogged]

I can't buy PT Nuke in Belgium.:(

I'm going to try with a water wetting agent.

It has a corrosion inhibitor and protects against algae and lowers the surface tension of water.

Dosage; +/-5%

Cont.: 5-Chloro-2-Methyl-3(2H)-Isothiazolinone-2-Methyl-3(2H)-Isothiazolinone

Would it be possible to use an UV dye with this product?

Go to a pet store that sells fish supplies and get some algae control. I use a product made by "Jungle" called "No More Algae" and have not had a single problem using a drop or two per loop with a drop top off about every 6 months.

[Alien Grey]

Go to a pet store that sells fish supplies and get some algae control. I use a product made by "Jungle" called "No More Algae" and have not had a single problem using a drop or two per loop with a drop top off about every 6 months.

Thanks for the advice but I would like to keep the water wetting agent in the loop.

The temperature dropped with 3° Celsius under full load with LinX.:D

With océ cooling liquid it reached 51° Celsius with my Q9650@4.05GHz. With the water wetting agent it reaches 48° Celsius.:up:

[NaeKuh]

I need some suggestions for the amount of clear UV blue drops I should put in my loop. I just redid the whole water loop, and used a little less then a 1/2 gallon of distilled water. First I put like 4 drops, and hardly see any color in my T3 res w/ the lights out. then I put like 4 more (8 total) and I still don't see much.

I put like 4 drops in a 1/2 filled 0.5L bottle of water (so I guess like 0.15L of water) as a test, and can see it. It's not crazy bright or anything.

Are my expectations too high, or am I just not putting enough in?


AHHHH u got a clear UV sample?


Clear UV blue is very strong but if your lighting isnt good you not going to see much. 1 to 2 drops is enough for most loops blue clear UV blue needs excellent UV lighting to work well.

Been on hols just got back.

:O

Im hurt.. :(

u know how long ive been itching for that...



In my actual loop, I see nothing in my T3, no blue whatsoever. First I put like 4 drops in, didn't see anything. So I put 4 more last night, and let it run all day thinking maybe it would mix. came home from work and still nothing. so I went crazy and put like 20+ more drops in it, and still see nothing. :confused:

... should of been almost instant.

Since our loops work on equilibrium, it should of mixed within the first 10-15 min.

UGH... i want clear UV. :\


Send me a PM with you address ill send you some new stuff out.
But what ill do just for you ills end you a new sample out that 50X stronger than what you have. .

:(

Guess i shouldn't of gone into hiding.. LOL...


I can't buy PT Nuke in Belgium.:(


Look for copper safe at a fish store.

Bascially your going after the copper II sulfate.

Or if ur friend or anyone has access to a lab, you can get Copper II Hydroxide powerder and mix it with water to make your own PT Nuke.

You want to use TINY TINY concentrations. Like no more then 5 drops.

[Diverge]

AHHHH u got a clear UV sample?


I didn't get a sample, I bought it from his ebay store ;)

... but yeah, I see no blue tint or anything through my T3 res, with a UV light right behind it. I dunno if it has to do with the T3's plastic, or that I need to put a whole bottle of it in my loop.

I think I've given up on it, someone else needs to try clear UV in a computer loop, and not just in a glass cup with a powerful UV light directly on it.

[ptrout]

Chiming in

I bought the clear UV stuff from him via ebay.

When I first got it, I had the same exact problem as Diverge, 10+ drops in a glass of water and nothing. I was using a 2 kinds of LED UV at first.

Mlwood stood by his product and said it was tested and not defective. So I ended up going to micro center and buying some cheap $6 UV CCFL's then bam, 1 drop and bright and nice glow.

The stuff works fine, its just needs a "right UV" light. I am kinda of puzzled that UV LED's had no affect but some cheap CCFL's did the trick.

[NaeKuh]

I think I've given up on it, someone else needs to try clear UV in a computer loop, and not just in a glass cup with a powerful UV light directly on it.

Ive been asking him for a sample or a means to buy a sample.

I have the low UV range (Original AC Ryan UV CCFL, back when they were good.).
I dont like bright lights, but i use the UV to line trace my stuff inside my computers.

Here is the low range:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Haruhi/IMG_1345.jpg

*kicking the can*
i just need a sample.
Or point me to where i can get one.

[mlwood37]

Ive been asking him for a sample or a means to buy a sample.

I have the low UV range (Original AC Ryan UV CCFL, back when they were good.).
I dont like bright lights, but i use the UV to line trace my stuff inside my computers.

Here is the low range:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Haruhi/IMG_1345.jpg

*kicking the can*
i just need a sample.
Or point me to where i can get one.

NaeKuh PM me you address. Sample will be sent in morning. this is the NEW one that no ones seen yet in new bottles. (you WILL be the first to see it)

Diverge Ive doubled checked the UV blue under normal CCFL today and it works well even opened up bottles for retail and tested it out it worked. How ever like i say i will refund you all you money inc post and packing if you not happy. I don't mind.

The amount of work in getting these dyes isnt easy but i defo don't what to upset any one hence i can refund you or send you out a even stronger sample but please check you UV light as UV Blue needs a decent CCFL for it to work.

Different CCFL has different spectrum of light this is the same with all clear blue's dye's. I can send you a 2ml sample of Pure Clear concentrate Clear blue. 1 drop is enough for 5 Ltrs of water. Diverge Ill do this to your self at no charge what so ever.

All pics you have seen on here are run With just 4 UV Leds (no light tricks) i how ever do now own a 12" Tube UV Black light as well for testing purposes only of the dyes.

[mlwood37]

any one else got any pics of the dyes

[NaeKuh]

we got no samples yet...

LOL i was gonna pm you mlwood..

but i havent received anything yet.

[Alien Grey]

we got no samples yet...

LOL i was gonna pm you mlwood..

but i havent received anything yet.

I already send him a PM a few weeks ago to ask for a sample or how I could buy one but he doesn't reply. :shrug:

I can't blame him because he really got screwed by some guys around here that just took the free sample but never showed some pics. :shakes:

[NaeKuh]

I already send him a PM a few weeks ago to ask for a sample or how I could buy one but he doesn't reply. :shrug:

I can't blame him because he really got screwed by some guys around here that just took the free sample but never showed some pics. :shakes:

agreed

That's why i was telling people that there rude in the earlier post.

[Ced-G60]

I also sent him a message, i really want to buy some of those dye ! but no reply sadly :x

[dingdong555]

Here is a shot of what 2 drops of UV Green looks like with WHITE LED's....NO UV in this pic whatsoever :)

http://i37.tinypic.com/mt1lc8.jpg

[Diverge]

we got no samples yet...

LOL i was gonna pm you mlwood..

but i havent received anything yet.

I got my other bottle of clear blue UV if you want it. It doesn't work in my system, maybe you'll have better luck :shrug:

[mlwood37]

sorry guys was in the middle of a move bwteen North east england and south youkshire. hcne alot of stuff got lost in the process. Nearly ready to go live soon with in the next 2 moths once full six moths tests are over.

Yup as well i did get screwed over with allot of info and pic's but that's life. But that all so goes to shop's whom got samples and :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed me over but hay ho there loss my gain in the end.

Any way to those who did post thank you very much and i do appreciate it. To any that didn't receive the sample's i do apologise and ill sort some thing out for you in the future.

mick

[Ced-G60]

sorry guys was in the middle of a move bwteen North east england and south youkshire. hcne alot of stuff got lost in the process. Nearly ready to go live soon with in the next 2 moths once full six moths tests are over.

Yup as well i did get screwed over with allot of info and pic's but that's life. But that all so goes to shop's whom got samples and :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed me over but hay ho there loss my gain in the end.

Any way to those who did post thank you very much and i do appreciate it. To any that didn't receive the sample's i do apologise and ill sort some thing out for you in the future.

mick


Good to see you back here :)

i sent you a message with some color I would like to buy for my project :)

[dreamaxx]

heh I could get some fluorescein from work..... But I wouldn't want ugly greeny yellow :)

I really like the purple, how have you made that?

[mlwood37]

The purple is 2 colours relay but if you use loads of purple you have black (deep purple) and less gives you purple how ever that is none UV.

All so ive been noticing that several company's have been selling UV "Yellow/ Green" (yellow under normal light and UV green under uv) as Green. This is incorrect and is not true UV green as advertised and is bollocks.

Ive only a few more weeks left before full testing can come to a close and ill be publicly releasing the dyes and FULL real Life test Results.

There will be 2 versions for public release

1) Clear premix 1Ltr with dye vial and pipette
2) Dye Vials in varying colours (UV and None UV) with pipette's

More to come later

Ced-G60 keep an eye on here because ill be doing some thing no other dye does or has ever done... you may like it.

[mlwood37]

ops how did that get there .....

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1299/picture012bg.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2254/picture022s.jpg

UV Yellow/Green
UV Clear Blue
UV Green
UV Pink
Candy red
Deep purple
Deep Blue
Black (still under staining test)

NO fancy gimmicks
NO playing with words
NO braking the laws of physics
Simple yet effective pre mixed water cooling fluids
Can be used with Silver kill coils if you wish but not necessary for 2 years.
Can use Dye to top up the color or make it even stronger if you wish.
Will NOT void warranty on Res's.
Will become conductive as soon as it hits air and dust (again no word play)
Will be cheap compared to other brands.
And yellow/green is not Green... UV green is green .... Get what i mean ........

I have full test results as well but im not going to let the public know them as ive tested these against ALL current makers of pre mixed fluids and i would look bias. so Ill be leaving that up to REAL reviewers and people who can do real tests. ;)

[dingdong555]

Can't wait for test results!

[mlwood37]

Might be a while due to the fact i need to build web shop first as ill be selling these my self. After tying to contact retails i sort of given up on that side of things and will just now do it on my own.

So once the web shop is ready and testes are happy we can see how it goes from there.

If any one runs a review site and is interested in a sample i would be happy to hear from them. How ever i would like to see prof first.

Not going the route of sending out samples to every one again it costs way to much and i didn't get enough real feed back lol ....

[dingdong555]

Might be a while due to the fact i need to build web shop first as ill be selling these my self. After tying to contact retails i sort of given up on that side of things and will just now do it on my own.

So once the web shop is ready and testes are happy we can see how it goes from there.

If any one runs a review site and is interested in a sample i would be happy to hear from them. How ever i would like to see prof first.

Not going the route of sending out samples to every one again it costs way to much and i didn't get enough real feed back lol ....

Skinnee from this forum is definitely someone you should get in contact with, website - http://skinneelabs.com/

[mlwood37]

Skinnee from this forum is definitely someone you should get in contact with, website - http://skinneelabs.com/

thks will look into his site and and crack on :)

[mlwood37]

sent a message off to him hopefully he will respond and say yeh wich would be cool ....

[dingdong555]

sent a message off to him hopefully he will respond and say yeh wich would be cool ....

Awesome, can't wait for some results, I really want to see how the staining tests turned out though... :)

[mlwood37]

Skinnee to bissy with other tests and fluids atm which is a shame by that's life.

[dingdong555]

Skinnee to bissy with other tests and fluids atm which is a shame by that's life.

You can try Bundy, he is a German reviewer but his English is pretty good - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=21337

I would love to do a review but I've never done one before so count me out.

[Alien Grey]

You don't need a review.

A review is just an opinion of one person. I'd like to see more results from the guys that use your UV dyes in this thread.


It looks like you gave your samples to the wrong guys on the forum. :shakes:

[faster3200]

You don't need a review.

A review is just an opinion of one person. I'd like to see more results from the guys that use your UV dyes in this thread.


It looks like you gave your samples to the wrong guys on the forum. :shakes:

Here are some pics of my current out of the box setup taken from my worklog.

http://i.imgur.com/1dGx4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cqPix.jpg

I'm using the yellow/green. There is also a vid in my worklog of my comp at PAX which has the yellow/green dye as well.

I posted pics before too. There really isn't much you can do or review with the dye aside from long-term damage and the colors. All of the colors have already been posted.

[Alien Grey]

My mistake I should have said a lot of the wrong guys. I know some of you did show some pictures.


It's been a few months since you guys received the test samples so you should be able to give some more information about the dyes because that's why he gave them. :shrug:

[faster3200]

It's been a few months since you guys received the test samples so you should be able to give some more information about the dyes because that's why he gave them. :shrug:

No dye staining or clogging to speak of. Everything has gone smoothly so far. I think if there were issues you would hear about it.

[NaeKuh]

Faster u have your gpu sector looped up wierd.

Its basically acting as a pass though because theres no restiction on the bottom side to suction on the top side.

Are you using smaller tubing for that bottom loop?

[faster3200]

Faster u have your gpu sector looped up wierd.

Its basically acting as a pass though because theres no restiction on the bottom side to suction on the top side.

Are you using smaller tubing for that bottom loop?

I made a thread about that a while ago, which you posted in :p:. I plan on having a NB at the end but for now I have it setup like that to test if it really makes a difference.

[Alien Grey]

No dye staining or clogging to speak of. Everything has gone smoothly so far. I think if there were issues you would hear about it.

That's exactly what I wanted to hear.

[mlwood37]

Hehe I could give out samples of the pre mix but its pointless as my shop isnt set up just yet.

a new clear Blue sample dye sent out to a user who i know will post if they want to.

I've personally been running the dyes now for 6 months + and i pulled all the ones i wasn't happy with.

All so tested alot of other makers of other fluids and i came to a conclusion that

1) My Pref is Fluid XP+ Ultra is the best fluid out on the market for none conductivity over a period of time
2) My own pre mix run's .5c to 1c above standard water with a silver kill coil (nothing else added in)

I could never pull off the same temp differences when re testing because of room variants.

Ive come to my own conclusion that color tubing is better ... but ... ive never found any decent stuff that can beat tygon (forgot how to spell it) alone ...

There are how ever problems with the following

Primochill is rubbish and why !!!!!!!!!!

Well ill like pictures speak louder than words so here you go and this is why (sorry its so big) ->

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5166/picture003te.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4963/picture004lb.jpg


This was taken out of primochills pre colored batch .....

I can say alot more about other makers of fluid but hmm ill leave that up to you lot instead.

All so Fesser has the same problem. you lot just never get to hear about it ... ;) ..

Why do i what a real independent tester / review .. well its because i can then confirm my own tests. That simple :).

[dingdong555]

Lets hope your stuff is better! I'm sure it will be though, come on website :D

[mlwood37]

i wouldn't say that my pre mix fluid is better . i would how ever say its cheaper and i don't use any false advertising to make it sound better than the rest. and last but not least Its way cheaper than any on the market.

[mlwood37]

My new 4 stage filtering system arrived this morning who hoo. so all the dyes now have to pass through it This helps filter out any particles that may be left over from the powder chems i use. just as a extra precaution.

Samples are going out tomorrow for people. How ever no results will be published as were still in the "mind your own business stage" ..... j/k

God i love working on these.

http://www.wcdyes.com

to come

[NaeKuh]

got the dye.

i'll post up pics tonight as it gets darker so you guys get a better contrast.

[Diverge]

got the dye.

i'll post up pics tonight as it gets darker so you guys get a better contrast.

I'm very curious how it works for you, since it never worked in my system. Although the only thing clear in my system is my Typhoon III (my tubing is UV green colored), and that showed no blue what so ever.

If you have a Typhoon III, I'd be extra curious if you can take some picks showing the color through it. Maybe it doesn't like the T3 :?

[mlwood37]

Diverge - im surprised it never worked for you tbh. the clear blue is not a dye it is a liquid that is used to dye white to white. White clothing isn't actualy white its blue but to get it whiter they use the same product as this. That is why White clothing turns blue under UV and its the same product all makers of UK water cooling use in there clear blue except this stuff is way stronger than any of there stuff as its sold in its purest form.

So any UV should turn it blue. How ever lets see how NaeKuh gets on and if hes happy and your happy ill send you another one but tbh if it isnt working first time around i dont see how a second one will make any difference.

[NaeKuh]

i stuck it under the CCFL's and they glowed.

It was daylight so i couldnt see it brightly, but i did notice it glowing.

I'll put some in a bottle and put it under the light, i think u guys want that.

Then i'll probably put a drop or 2 in my main loop and see how it reacts inside my res.

[Diverge]

So any UV should turn it blue. How ever lets see how NaeKuh gets on and if hes happy and your happy ill send you another one but tbh if it isnt working first time around i dont see how a second one will make any difference.

Yeah, I hear ya. When I put it in a water bottle, I at least saw the tint of blue. But through the T3 res, I saw nothing, even after adding a lot of the UV Clear Blue stuff. The T3 is the only clear thing in my system, so I couldn't look at anything else to see if I could see color.

I still have another bottle of it. I might try it again after I see how Naekuh's results go. I'd take my T3 out of my loop, and just try it by itself for curiosity's sake, But I don't want to keep dismounting / unscrewing fittings ect... It's bound to end up cracking, or stripping out the fitting threads since they are just plastic.

[Diverge]

i stuck it under the CCFL's and they glowed.

It was daylight so i couldnt see it brightly, but i did notice it glowing.

I'll put some in a bottle and put it under the light, i think u guys want that.

Then i'll probably put a drop or 2 in my main loop and see how it reacts inside my res.

Do you happen to have a T3 res to test it on? :D

[mlwood37]

To be honest some plastic's can retract UV light but id be really surprised if the T3 did is that good that no UV blue shows through.

The biggest problem with clear UV blue is that once you get to a certain amount (so many drops) the blue color will not become any stronger.

Done many tests to try and get a "seriously strong bright blue" color to no avail with out messing up the compound it self.

What brings out better colors for UV liquids are stronger black lights such as disco lights which is the same most manufactures use to take picture of there colors lol. which is cheating quite a bit because you tell me how many ppl have that sort of light in there pc's.

For my pics i used UV leds which showed up the colors and there by no means strong. How ever a thought has cross my mind how about i gab some of theses UV leds and send you some. You can then test them out you self and see if there is a different how ever there not that good in comparison to a "good" uv CCFL.

[radi4fun]

any idea when the site will be up? i really really want to order that candy red or some nice dark red dye. by the way where will you be shipping all this from?

[mlwood37]

Sorry no ETA as of yet.

Shipping will be form the UK.

[radi4fun]

ahhh UK. i'm hoping that shipping won't be a deal breaker to US.

[mlwood37]

The dyes are not a problem for sending they take a few days to arrive though. but the premix might be expensive to send though the post and probably may not be worth it.

Ill check on pricing when im ready to go live for USA.

Just checked on pre mix as it weigh's 1 kg its not worth sending to usa ...

Only dyes would be sent to usa unless i can find it cheap.

[radi4fun]

I was just looking forward to just the tiny bottle of dye. i can just drop 3-5 drops in a distilled water and whala i got me a beautiful looking loop.

[mlwood37]

lol 5 drops would normal be over doing it but yup i can do dyes to usa no problem as post and packing is quite cheap.

How ever i cannot talk about selling in this forum as this thread isnt for that matter only for chat about the product and ideas. keep an eye on the url with in the next 4 weeks.

[NaeKuh]

Do you happen to have a T3 res to test it on? :D

No.. i am on a boycott on the T3 right now until i start seeing better threads about them.

Also that last statement milli made on "your warrenty gets voided if u use premixes but not if you use primochill" is utter BS.

Aftermarket coolant is all the same crap. Ethyl glycol + h2o + (additional additive).

Im still waiting for an offical word on that if its true or not.

Need a few more hours guys.
I'll show u CCFL vs LED when it gets a bit darker.

BTW thanks again mlwood, i'll give u a good show, cant promise the results tho. :P

[NaeKuh]

Okey, i got some pretty good results with the CCFL, the LED is a fail.

Here is the bottle against a CCFL:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/UV%20Dye/IMG_1620.jpg

Here is my mixer bottle without any dye:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/UV%20Dye/IMG_1621.jpg

1 Drop:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/UV%20Dye/IMG_1622.jpg

2 Drop:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/UV%20Dye/IMG_1623.jpg

3 Drop:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/UV%20Dye/IMG_1624.jpg

.2 mL total:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/UV%20Dye/IMG_1625.jpg

So i took 6mL of the .2mL mix and added it to my res:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/UV%20Dye/IMG_1627.jpg

Added to res:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/UV%20Dye/IMG_1629.jpg

.6mL:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/UV%20Dye/IMG_1630.jpg

Well, its weak on the camera, but it comes out pretty nice in real life against a CCFL.
I dont see anything against a LED tho.

[mlwood37]

Vial = 1.8ml

added 6ml water = 7.8ml

then put 2 ml of that fluid in your system.

and then 6ml ...

Why didn't you just put 1 or 2 drops with the pipette ... out of curiosity.

p.s them pics look rubbish as in no glow at all once you watered it down more lol. Not saying your pics are bad but rather the opposite as in the dye looks rubbish hahaha.

In the vid you can see the effect i get with 1 drop in a 1 pint glass and UV leds underneath the glass.

Im starting to wonder now How come my UV leds are so dammed strong.

Might pull the UV clear blue for more UV test's im not happy with that effect you lot are getting.

[faster3200]

Wow, the blue looks quite nice. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what UV ccfls to buy? The ones I have currently are rubbish.

[mlwood37]

well the UV Led's i use in this tests

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39mFUMbqmlI
&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCsESTt2Ikk

They are available from here

http://www.phenoptix.co.uk/Ultra_Powerful_UV_LED_5mm_150mcd_p/5-uv-150.htm

there are the pre wired versions at 12v

http://www.phenoptix.co.uk/UV_Prewired_12V_5mm_LED_p/5mm-uv-12v.htm

Underneath the glass if i remember correctly were 3 x 12v LED 5mm 150mcd with no reflective material.

Each test was done with 1 to 2 drops of dye.

How ever if using them in a case i would recommend that you put some reflective stuff behind the UV leds are the light dissipates badly in a open case and you need to direct it more for a purer glow for the UV colors. Ill get some UV CCFLS before the shop opens and get some pics taken with clear Tubing and res's. I accidentally snapped my UV CCFL's when moving around.

[NaeKuh]

no the camera wont do its justice on the res.

But the res lights up a nice blue.

As i said i use it for diags and i even put some on the floor with that needle i have, and i could see it light up.

Its just dayam hard to get a good picture with that dye.

But yeah mlwood im having a hard time with it and LED's.

On my other loop, remember im running 3, which has led's, i dont see squat. :rofl:
And i think i put almost 5 drops in a smaller capacity res.

About why i diluted and mix'd... well mlwood, i wanted to see it change gradually, and not go BAM like it did in that little bottle i have.
:rofl:

But i can see it well, my camera cant. :\

NightMode:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/UV%20Dye/IMG_1635.jpg

This is about the best i think my camera can do.

[mlwood37]

oky thks for the info. Im going to look more into the best CCFL's to use with this dye as i know it has a wide light spectrum to it.

Time to play again me thinks when i get some money together lol ...

NaeKuh A few questions for you.

1) Do u think the way i supply the dyes in a 1.8ml vile and pipette is a good way of selling the dye.

2) Would you say hand on hart that the dye is strong in comparison to others on the market.

3) If you could buy these Vials with a pipette at £3.00 per vial + P&P would you think it was a worth asking price

4) Taking into consideration you have the new Pure clear UV Blue how many systems do you think you could fill with a 1.8 Vial at the amount you would consider acceptable coloring.

5) Would you consider recommending it to a friend if this does finally go retail.

and last but not least thank you for your help.

[NaeKuh]

oky thks for the info. Im going to look more into the best CCFL's to use with this dye as i know it has a wide light spectrum to it.

Time to play again me thinks when i get some money together lol ...

NaeKuh A few questions for you.

1) Do u think the way i supply the dyes in a 1.8ml vile and pipette is a good way of selling the dye.

2) Would you say hand on hart that the dye is strong in comparison to others on the market.

3) If you could buy these Vials with a pipette at £3.00 per vial + P&P would you think it was a worth asking price

4) Taking into consideration you have the new Pure clear UV Blue how many systems do you think you could fill with a 1.8 Vial at the amount you would consider acceptable coloring.

5) Would you consider recommending it to a friend if this does finally go retail.

and last but not least thank you for your help.

1. No.. because i was constantly worried about picking up too much. Also the vile is small, and i was worried about tipping it over. You most definitely need to dilute it in a dropper bottle for ease.

The concentrated vile should be offered, but a dropper is preffered.

2. Yes considering i didnt notice any difference after 3 drops.
This is one dye where more doesnt really help.

3. You price seems fair... i think i would pick some up.

4. As i said 3 drops and i dont notice anything afterwards.
Looking at the rest of the dye thats left, i can safely say i have about more then 5 gallons worth of dye. :rofl:

5. LOL.. well i like it... so its in the eye of the beholder. Were just worried about what happens to it after its in our systems.

But if they wanted color outside of tubing, i would recommend it. Ive wiped the drop with a tissue, and no blue staining was seen.

But the UV light made it glow brightly.

[mlwood37]

Thks for the answers .. :)

[theonewhotried]

I have been following this thread for a while, and i have to say
i am quite impressed with what i have seen. The uv reactivity when used in good lighting. I am very surprised on the pricing, I thought it would be more expensive. Looking forward to seeing this on your website.

[mlwood37]

theonewhotried hi there thank you for your comments.

The idea behind all this is to supply you the user with a cheap alternative to every thing on the market yet to sell it at i would consider a value price with out compromising on quality.

To keep the price down we need to use as cheap as possible packaging after all its not whats on the out side that counts but whats on the inside.

Allso when i do go live there will be several products available and these will be -

Dye in 2ml / 5ml / 10 ml
Premix in 1 ltr for (sorry no sale out side of uk unless some one whats to start shipping it)
Powder dye - used for adding to paint , plastic and various other mixes for pc modding. The powder will be sold in its purest form and is Extremely strong.

Now the dye will not be for ever one as this stuff is extremely strong yet value wise there is no other competitor out there selling it like this or at this price. I do aim to expand the shop as well if this takes off with new products but that's in the future. I need to learn to walk before i can run.

There will be discount as for for all uses of the forums i use regular as a way of saying thank you.

[WrigleyVillain]

I have been following this thread for a while, and i have to say
i am quite impressed with what i have seen. The uv reactivity when used in good lighting. I am very surprised on the pricing, I thought it would be more expensive. Looking forward to seeing this on your website.

+1 :up:

[dingdong555]

Just a quick one, white dye isn't possible is it?

Got daym I wish there was a white fluid that was inexpensive. (Unlike nano-fluid)

[mlwood37]

White fluid is possible i have some and been testing it for 8 months. but there are problems with it. and until these problems are solved it will never be sold.

1) its not a dye but a chemical fluid
2) It cannot be used in injectors else it can separate
3) It doesn't move heat around as well as water
4) After so long it WILL start to block you system up.

[dingdong555]

Hmm, has yours blocked up yet? I mean, if its been 8 months and hasn't, then that's good, coolant should be changed yearly.

Also, how "badly" does it move heat?

[mlwood37]

Well with all liquid i put them under a microscope and check out there particle size and all so if the partials stick. I do this every week over a few months and at 3 months the white liquid showed signs of them sticking together. Now given time this would gloop into a mass.

These tests are run on standing liquid as well as moving liquid though a loop and it happened on the standing liquid which is not good at all.

Hence there is no way it could be released.

Checking my results all so the temp was +8c / +10c Over my normal set up of normal water. so that's quite a jump just for a white liquid.

[ddemetrius456]

All are looking excellent. But i like the green one.

_______________
Wonderbra
(http://www.belle-lingerie.co.uk/g39/Wonderbra/page/2/showall/true/)

[mlwood37]

Im re working the UV green as ive had some one look at it and its a weak color when in the pipe but under UV is seriously strong Just doesn't look it under normal light. Im playing around to make it a stronger green under normal light.

[WrigleyVillain]

Looking forward to results!

[4ddiction]

So does anyone know how i can get my hands on one of these dyes? I got a project to do in my dorm and would love to use these to stain some water for the effect im aiming for.

[mlwood37]

When shop goes live after xmass some time youll be able to order.

[radi4fun]

It is Xmas today, i've been waiting for the site to go up for like 4 weeks now :( really really wana order some blood red:caution: dye. was wondering will XSForums members will have a special code to save like 5-10% off order or something like that??

also have you had any chance to see what kind of UV Cold Cathodes work best for the Dyes? Have you done any test with some Lazer LED's like This (http://cgi.ebay.com/5-LED-RED-ULTRA-SUPER-BRIGHT-LAZER-LIGHT-LASER-PC-MODS_W0QQitemZ380182220685QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item5884a04f8d) and This (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UV-5-LED-NEON-MOTORCYCLE-CAR-BOAT-POD-LIGHT-BRIGHT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c05be8cc0QQitem Z120355458240QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fA ccessories). hoping that your site goes up before new years :D

[faster3200]

also have you had any chance to see what kind of UV Cold Cathodes work best for the Dyes? Have you done any test with some Lazer LED's like This (http://cgi.ebay.com/5-LED-RED-ULTRA-SUPER-BRIGHT-LAZER-LIGHT-LASER-PC-MODS_W0QQitemZ380182220685QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item5884a04f8d) and This (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UV-5-LED-NEON-MOTORCYCLE-CAR-BOAT-POD-LIGHT-BRIGHT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c05be8cc0QQitem Z120355458240QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fA ccessories). hoping that your site goes up before new years :D

I have the UV one. I can post a pick with the yellow/green if you want. My first impression would be that they are super spot-lighty. You have to diffuse the light in order for it to look like a band and not 5 individual dots.

[mlwood37]

Untill i get some decent Pics taken the shop wont go live. It takes time for this.

Allso with leds its best to use tin foil to spread the light or direct it in a manner befitting of what your after.

These pics were taken using a Cold cathod UV light With tin foil directing the light towards the glasses not leds as i normaly use.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2559/001z.jpg
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3530/022tb.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3223/008yjs.jpg

there is a tin of paint off to the right hand side i used the powder dyes mixed in to paint the girls bedroom and we threw in a black light into there and there bedroom is now metal .....

The Shop has 3 main section's there will be the powder dyes, the water cooling dyes and the Pre mix fluid.

Ive allso been asked to post this from other members who have seen it.

I am allso working close with some one on this new fluid / powder.

It live micro bio mass.

This basicly is cloned parts off fish that is self lighting. (no need for UV tubes)

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1454/splashtechno13.jpg

How ever it only lasts for 2 hours atm so is more of a gimmic than any thing else how ever if you showing you loop at a show this will make it stand out as there is no light need to make it glow in the dark.

There are no light tricks here ....

this is a natrul product ... gene splicing stuff.

[Waterlogged]

It is Xmas today, i've been waiting for the site to go up for like 4 weeks now :( really really wana order some blood red:caution: dye. was wondering will XSForums members will have a special code to save like 5-10% off order or something like that??

also have you had any chance to see what kind of UV Cold Cathodes work best for the Dyes? Have you done any test with some Lazer LED's like This (http://cgi.ebay.com/5-LED-RED-ULTRA-SUPER-BRIGHT-LAZER-LIGHT-LASER-PC-MODS_W0QQitemZ380182220685QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item5884a04f8d) and This (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UV-5-LED-NEON-MOTORCYCLE-CAR-BOAT-POD-LIGHT-BRIGHT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c05be8cc0QQitem Z120355458240QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fA ccessories). hoping that your site goes up before new years :D

Only your second link will light the dye the way it's supposed to. Either that or a true UV cathode.

[mlwood37]

best use some thing like this for best results
here (http://cgi.ebay.com/12-DUAL-UV-BLACK-COLD-CATHODE-LIGHT-KIT-CCFL-COMPUTER_W0QQitemZ120355461950QQcmdZViewItemQQptZL H_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c05be9b3e)

[faster3200]

Radi, this is the problem with those "lazer" LED's.

Stock they look like this:

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2814/10lightspot.jpg

So you have to diffuse them in order to make them not look like spotlights:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/498/10lightdiffuse.jpg

[mlwood37]

Thoughts on pics for the shop ...

ATM this is Pics of the Dyes

Yellow / Green

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3640/greenyellow1.jpg

Green / Green

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2414/greengreen1.jpg

Pink / Pink

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/306/pinkpink.jpg

[radi4fun]

WOW love the pink one. i'm building this rig for me girl, and i'm sure she would love that pink :D the one in the wine glass looks more darker red/pink while in the Micro res it looks a lot lighter.... can't decide which one to pick once the store is up and running.

oh and a very dumb question... when you say "you have to diffuse them in order to make them not look like spotlights" sorry but what do you mean by diffusing them? i don't really understand :( i holded off on buying the Lazer LED, i was thinking of ordering 4 sets of CCF but they were too expensive for just lights, and thought i'd save a few bucks and order 4 sets of Lazer LED's one for each side of the case :) i can't find a good review or cases with the Lazer led's to see how much 1 of those lights up. maybe i might only need 2-3, 4 might be too bright.

[dingdong555]

those are great ideas for the picture there, are you going to use a softbox for the pictures though?

[aka_GK]

This basicly is cloned parts off fish that is self lighting. (no need for UV tubes)
<snip>
How ever it only lasts for 2 hours atm so is more of a gimmic than any thing else how ever if you showing you loop at a show this will make it stand out as there is no light need to make it glow in the dark.

There are no light tricks here ....
this is a natrul product ... gene splicing stuff.
AMAZING :eek:

[4ddiction]

wow, the yellow looks amazing..

any word on how much this will cost?

[mlwood37]

those are great ideas for the picture there, are you going to use a softbox for the pictures though?

Whats a softbox ?

[dingdong555]

Whats a softbox ?

Like on of THESE (http://cgi.ebay.com/20-Photo-Softbox-Light-Tent-kit-Cube-box-Tripod-LS06_W0QQitemZ250553271309QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item3a5623840d) but you'd use a white background, will produce some good pictures. Or, you could just wait for a good day and use natural light :)

[mlwood37]

erm wow. well these are taken on a £40 camera lol.

The reason the glass looks better is because Differant Glass / Plastic give diffrent results.

The coulours are all the same but even res's give diffrent results wich ill show after.

Allso depening on how much dye you use will give diffrent looks as well as diffrent UV Leds or CCFL or Strip lighting.

Well Here you go ive used diffrent Res / glass to show that each colour will look diffrent ...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5405/007fi.jpg

You can see Pink in 1 chamber and pink on the left side and they both look diffrent but there both from the same mix.
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2179/009vw.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4340/010ao.jpg

When it turns dark ill add UV light and youll see the contrast in diffrence even more.

[irenedakota]

Like on of THESE (http://cgi.ebay.com/20-Photo-Softbox-Light-Tent-kit-Cube-box-Tripod-LS06_W0QQitemZ250553271309QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item3a5623840d) but you'd use a white background, will produce some good pictures. Or, you could just wait for a good day and use natural light :)

Softboxes are easy to make yourself as well.