Jaw dropper: 1.8GHz 4x quad core cpus + mobo combo under 500$

[s0lid]

After having a look at Rubidiums Erinyes (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=202170) project i checked from ebay how much would 4x Quad setup cost to build, well i'm stunned.
Cpus: 1.8GHz 94$/pair: 2 pcs Opteron 8346 quad core 1.8GHz 4 x 512K L2 L3 2MB (http://cgi.ebay.com/2-pcs-Opteron-8346-quad-core-1-8GHz-4-x-512K-L2-L3-2MB_W0QQitemZ330311722350QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item4ce81ce56e&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116)
1.9GHz 109$/pair: Opteron 8347 2 Quad-core 1.9GHz 4x 512K 2MB PAIR=2 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Opteron-8347-2-Quad-core-1-9GHz-4x-512K-2MB-PAIR-2_W0QQitemZ330302960727QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item4ce7973457&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3|66%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1| 293%3A1|294%3A50)
Mobo: 309$/piece: Tyan Thunder S4985 4x CPU QUAD CORE Motherboard 16-CORE (http://cgi.ebay.com/Tyan-Thunder-S4985-4x-CPU-QUAD-CORE-Motherboard-16-CORE_W0QQitemZ280365626541QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item414717f4ad&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1| 294%3A50#ebayphotohosting)

For 4cpus (2x 94) 188$ and mobo 309.9$ = 497$ ~355€ w/o shippings (mobo has free shippings in US).

Board uses DDR2 ECC reg memory, which is quite cheap and has SLI support IIRC :O
Well board is just insanely big since it's SSI MEB sized: 13" x 16"
http://illiana.i8.com/images/images/i_s4985b.jpg

And if you can find M4985 board for decend price, you can add 4 more cores to this system :ROTF:

[karl_eller]

God, that board looks like a bad photoshop :p: I wonder how this would compare to an i7 in terms of output. Double the cores, but half the clock speed, and probably less efficient to boot.

Eller

[Anarki]

I thought about going down the socket F route a while ago, but with 2xquad, not 4xquad.

You can get dual socket F motherboards cheaper than half the cost you can a quad socket F motherboard.

Here is a link to one for $79.99 or £47 in GBP. (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tyan-S2912G2NR-Dual-Opteron-Server-Motherboard-Socket-F_W0QQitemZ260389891557QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item3ca0726de5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3|66%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1| 293%3A2|294%3A50)

For a few dollars more you can grab a pair of 8347's (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Opteron-8347-2-Quad-core-1-9GHz-4x-512K-2MB-PAIR-2_W0QQitemZ330302960727QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item4ce7973457&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3|66%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1| 293%3A1|294%3A50)

The reason I didn't go for it is because our customs are quite anal about things and I would of probably got charged customs tax :rolleyes:

[s0lid]

God, that board looks like a bad photoshop :p: I wonder how this would compare to an i7 in terms of output. Double the cores, but half the clock speed, and probably less efficient to boot.

Eller

Yea little crappy quality pic...
Well i'd say it's little more powerfull than I7. 4cores/8threads vs 16 real cores :D

BTW those cpus are high efficient model so their TDP is 45W :)

[s0lid]

I thought about going down the socket F route a while ago, but with 2xquad, not 4xquad.

You can get dual socket F motherboards cheaper than half the cost you can a quad socket F motherboard.

Here is a link to one for $79.99 or £47 in GBP. (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tyan-S2912G2NR-Dual-Opteron-Server-Motherboard-Socket-F_W0QQitemZ260389891557QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item3ca0726de5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3|66%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1| 293%3A2|294%3A50)

For a few dollars more you can grab a pair of 8347's (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Opteron-8347-2-Quad-core-1-9GHz-4x-512K-2MB-PAIR-2_W0QQitemZ330302960727QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item4ce7973457&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3|66%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1| 293%3A1|294%3A50)

The reason I didn't go for it is because our customs are quite anal about things and I would of probably got charged customs tax :rolleyes:

That would be nice octacore toy :D
Total price would be around ~140€-170€ shipped and tax avoided =P

[jcool]

Since I have the opportunity to avoid both taxes and high shipping on this, I am really temped.
I don't have a quad socket rig yet and no AMDs, so it would be a really great addition to my farm...
BUT I put a stop on all new cruncher expenses because things are getting out of hand as it is, so I will withstand temptation.. for now :D

[Martijn]

Since I have the opportunity to avoid both taxes and high shipping on this, I am really temped.
I don't have a quad socket rig yet and no AMDs, so it would be a really great addition to my farm...
BUT I put a stop on all new cruncher expenses because things are getting out of hand as it is, so I will withstand temptation.. for now :D

Meh, someone's got to try this? :ROTF:

[s0lid]

Meh, someone's got to try this? :ROTF:

Yea, and later you can add second 16cores into that system :ROTF:
Tho, needs second psu and cpu expansion board called Tyan M4985.

http://www.ipspty.com.au/tpl/img/m4985.gif

That board goes on that S4985 mobo, there's riser cards between mobos ofc :P

Just like in this:
http://www.ipspty.com.au/tpl/img/vx50_s.jpg

[Shogan]

Wish I had the space to try a build like this! Nice find btw. It would be good to see some benchmarks between this and an i7 build - 16 threads vs 16 cores in Cinebench

[Bobsama]

That's sexy power for the price. I don't have any quad-core systems either, though I have built them for others. I have to say I was mighty impressed getting my hands on Phenom II X4.

[jcool]

Wish I had the space to try a build like this! Nice find btw. It would be good to see some benchmarks between this and an i7 build - 16 threads vs 16 cores in Cinebench

Cinebench is rather slow (http://img5.abload.de/img/unbenannt27lz.jpg) on such a machine, but that's because CB10 is ancient and not well optized for more than 8 threads (creation of new threads takes way too long).

I have written a request to the person who runs that rig asking for more benches.

As for comparable CB10 runs on Intel machines, see here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3882840&postcount=27)

[Kristall-99]

i wonder if you can clock them higher. extend the riser card to 10" and put in some beastly heatsinks

[Jaco]

quadsocket = wood :D

I wonder how much ppd it would do in WCG? 32-35k @ 1.9Ghz ?

[[XC] gomeler]

Woah! How awesome would that be to see 32 threads with that riser board? Curious what the efficiency of even the 4-socket variant would be like.

[Gamekiller]

gomeler;3885539']Woah! How awesome would that be to see 32 threads with that riser board? Curious what the efficiency of even the 4-socket variant would be like.

Test it out! :D

[[XC] gomeler]

Test it out! :D

Don't think I can convince Tyan to send me a board for review :p:

[Gamekiller]

Haha, maybe you could. Tell them that a bunch of crazy crunchers might buy a few if it works well.

Although I'm sure most of us just want one to say that we have a 4-8 socket rig! lol :D

[Bail_w]

I am wondering what is the power draw/output ratio. hmm...

[Martijn]

gomeler;3885550']Don't think I can convince Tyan to send me a board for review :p:

It never hurts to try? ;)

[Movieman]

I have a case here that will handle that, actually two of them..The supermicro cubes will do the 13x17" SWTX factor boards..
As to power draw, look at that board!
a 24 pin, 2-8's, a 4 pin AND a molex!:rofl:

[OldChap]

I've got a case too...and my PC P&C 1KSR has the connectors......want one....only ships US :(

[Someguy1982]

Talked me into it, I just ordered the CPU's.

[loonym]

......want one....only ships US :(You have quite a few teammates that will ship just about anywhere though. ;)

[Movieman]

Talked me into it, I just ordered the CPU's.

OMG!:shocked:

[loonym]

OMG!:shocked:You had to know somebody was gonna. I'll actually be quite surprised if he's the only one. :up:

[Someguy1982]

Haha, now the hunt for a case it would seem. Hmm, any recommendations?

[Movieman]

You had to know somebody was gonna. I'll actually be quite surprised if he's the only one. :up:

I figure solid is next.. he has wood for multi socket:rofl:

[Lu523]

Dang. Looks like I need to sell some hardware that is not being used. I would love to try one of these out.

[Otis11]

Talked me into it, I just ordered the CPU's.

I gotta know how this turns out... :rofl:

Finally got my money to build my i7 in a few weeks when my schedule calms down... but this would be so much cooler if it's worth it...

[Movieman]

FYI: The daughter board for this to take the additional 4 cpu's to get you to 32 cores is $553.00
Also just takesd 8000 series Opterons for socket F
Also keep in mind you'll need at least 16 sticks of DDR2-667 ECC REG.
Also a power supply that would jump start the space shuttle!:rofl:

[Someguy1982]

Wasn't planning to do the 8 CPU dance, just 4 for now. Might need some help selecting/locating certain components. Going to start the search for a case tonight at work.

[Movieman]

Wasn't planning to do the 8 CPU dance, just 4 for now. Might need some help selecting/locating certain components. Going to start the search for a case tonight at work.

Shame your so far away, I have 2 Supermicro cubes that would work..Shipping them would be killer..
just like these:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/pedestal/8000/SYS-8050.cfm

[Someguy1982]

More killer then buying them new?

[Movieman]

More killer then buying them new?

maybe not but JEEZ the cost to ship one of them today is scary..

[Someguy1982]

Fair enough :) In any case I'm going to poke around and see whats out there. Would you recommend the supermicro's?

[[XC] gomeler]

Could you modify one of the larger cases to fit that mobo? Lian Li V2000? If I had $600 sitting around I'd be all over this, that is going to be a hella fun rig.

[Movieman]

Fair enough :) In any case I'm going to poke around and see whats out there. Would you recommend the supermicro's?

They are great cases BUT I do have a concern on will they work. IE: is that board "normal" in it's mounts?
When I put a EATX board in this case I had to knock out one welded in post.
Remember, the SM cubes were designed way back in P3 times..
That's really the reason I was leery on sending it, hate to see you spend that kind of money for shipping and then have it not work..

[Someguy1982]

gomeler;3885864']Could you modify one of the larger cases to fit that mobo? Lian Li V2000? If I had $600 sitting around I'd be all over this, that is going to be a hella fun rig.
Well, I could try but I can't promise awesome results. Which is why I'm going to look around first.

[Someguy1982]

I see what you mean. Its SSI-MEB which is going to be particularly hard to find a case is what I'm noticing. I was wondering if Mountain Mod's would do a custom Pinnacle 24 or something. Only one way to find out I suppose.

[Movieman]

I see what you mean. Its SSI-MEB which is going to be particularly hard to find a case is what I'm noticing. I was wondering if Mountain Mod's would do a custom Pinnacle 24 or something. Only one way to find out I suppose.

Or when you get the board, put it on some paper and trace it out and mark the mounting holes aand mail it to me.
I can then see if it would work in the SM case..

[Someguy1982]

Yeah we can try that too. Not sure when all this stuff is going to send but I've ordered it already so shouldn't be terribly long.

[Movieman]

Yeah we can try that too. Not sure when all this stuff is going to send but I've ordered it already so shouldn't be terribly long.

I figure thats the smart way.. Most your out is mailing a tracing of the board with the mount holes on it.
Then if it fits, we can look at what the costs are to send the case..:rofl:

[[XC] gomeler]

What do you need a case for anyways? Something like that is destined to be run on the shelf, a piece of working art :D

[Someguy1982]

Yeah, that's what its going to look like until I can find something to put it in.

[Movieman]

and it won't fit in a V2000 so someone :cord: gomeler please.. EATX(12x13" is max in a V2000 and even that is tight..

[[XC] gomeler]

You are missing a critical word. I said MOD the V2000 :p:



I really didn't look at the dimensions of that PCB :doh:

[Movieman]

gomeler;3885913']You are missing a critical word. I said MOD the V2000 :p:



I really didn't look at the dimensions of that PCB :doh:

And your missing a critical word.. It won't fu*cking fit!:rofl:
V2000 JUST barely holds a 12x13" board.. this is 13x17"
you'd need to tear out the middle plate and what are you going to use for a motherboard tray to mount the bottom 4" of the MB on? Don't say let it hang free as it has HEAVY HS on it..
It just won't work in a V2000 period!:p:

[STEvil]

can it be overclocked?

:D

[Knight203]

This thing is a beast for cheap. Sounds like a lot of fun to play with :D

[Sparky]

You had to know somebody was gonna. I'll actually be quite surprised if he's the only one. :up:

Heh... if I had money to play with I'd be tempted to just to say lookie I got 4 CPUs! :D

That would take one big cardboard box to fit inside though!

[Kristall-99]

i am still kinda tempted. im just curious what the average WU time on them things would be. and if there's any overclocking potential

[Anarki]

can it be overclocked?

:D


i am still kinda tempted. im just curious what the average WU time on them things would be. and if there's any overclocking potential

As I said on page one, I seriously looked into the socket F platform.

Overclocking at BIOS level is a no-no. The only thing the BIOS for most boards will support is a measly 0.50Vcore increase. No FSB/multiplier options. Your only hope is via AMD overdrive and maybe clockgen or setfsb, if your lucky.

This is the main problem with server boards, they are designed to handle lots of CPU's at stock speeds, not 1GHz + overclocks per CPU ;)

[Kristall-99]

well heck even getting it to 2.3ghz or so would be awesome. i wouldnt even think of pushing the clocks that high.

[Duh]

They are great cases BUT I do have a concern on will they work. IE: is that board "normal" in it's mounts?
When I put a EATX board in this case I had to knock out one welded in post.
Remember, the SM cubes were designed way back in P3 times..
That's really the reason I was leery on sending it, hate to see you spend that kind of money for shipping and then have it not work..

you are selling the monster one day I was going to buy you :slap: bloody old Irish traitor .. *Duh goes to cover himself before the big boss smacks his head intos pieces*

Gross Weight 104 lbs (47.3kg) I guess my server will remain in NH for some more monthe, muehehehe.

Love you guys! Have a good night

[Movieman]

you are selling the monster one day I was going to buy you :slap: bloody old Irish traitor .. *Duh goes to cover himself before the big boss smacks his head intos pieces*

Gross Weight 104 lbs (47.3kg) I guess my server will remain in NH for some more monthe, muehehehe.

Love you guys! Have a good night

I have two of them and one hasn't moved off of a desk in 3 years.. It will be here when you want it..:rofl:
Good night..

[Otis11]

That would take one big cardboard box to fit inside though!

That was my first thought... :ROTF:

But if it's not overclockable I really don't expect it to compete with a OCed Nehalem. :shrug:

[s0lid]

Talked me into it, I just ordered the CPU's.

Woa, Jcool hurry take the second one! Only one mobo left gentlemen :rofl:


I figure solid is next.. he has wood for multi socket:rofl:

Yea i'd order that board with out any hesitation if my ass wouldn't be owned by jcool until i finish paying him those i7 parts :rofl:

[Martijn]

That was my first thought... :ROTF:

But if it's not overclockable I really don't expect it to compete with a OCed Nehalem. :shrug:

Maybe not with an overclocked i7, but if this supports SLI? Hell, I'd have this over an i7 any time :eek:

[s0lid]

Maybe not with an overclocked i7, but if this supports SLI? Hell, I'd have this over an i7 any time :eek:

I think that will whipe the floor with i7, look at it 4 Quad cores at 1.9GHz compared to one max 4.2GHz quad with HT. That's 8 threads versus 16 real cores.

[Martijn]

I think that will whipe the floor with i7, look at it 4 Quad cores at 1.9GHz compared to one max 4.2GHz quad with HT. That's 8 threads versus 16 real cores.

Yeah, but also remember that an i7 is clocked 2x higher per core and that it's faster clock for clock...

Wasn't there a system like this at #1 spot in WCG?

[s0lid]

Yeah, but also remember that an i7 is clocked 2x higher per core and that it's faster clock for clock...

Wasn't there a system like this at #1 spot in WCG?

Yea that's true, but can really one quad core whipe floor with 4 quads? I doupt so.

Maybe, i'd say since these systems weren't really that expensive after couple month of their release.

Btw added links to 1.9GHz models in first post.

[jcool]

Yea i'd order that board with out any hesitation if my ass wouldn't be owned by jcool until i finish paying him those i7 parts :rofl:

You are damn right about that :rofl:

Anyway, about efficiency.. we talked on IRC about it and would estimate it at somewhere between 35k and 40k/d in WCG using 4x 8347HE Opterons (1,9Ghz) that are sold for a similarly cheap price on ebay (like 110$/pair). Projected power draw would be 4x70W for the CPUs and maybe 50-60W for the mobo and rams? Factoring in PSU efficiency and no GFX I'd say we are looking at 350-360w from the wall.

As far as PPD goes, it's single i7 < Quad Opteron < Dual Gainestown.
Energy efficiency is Quad Opteron < single i7 < Dual Gainstown

While I'd really love to have one of those quad sockets I doubt it'll pay off with the killer elec cost around here. Plus, I put a stop on new cruncher expenses :p:

Still thinking about it tho.

[Jaco]

The more I look at it , the more it fascinates me...
No escape from the 4 headed monster :shocked::eek:

[s0lid]

Anyway, about efficiency.. we talked on IRC about it and would estimate it at somewhere between 35k and 40k/d in WCG using 4x 8347HE Opterons (1,9Ghz) that are sold for a similarly cheap price on ebay (like 110$/pair). Projected power draw would be 4x70W for the CPUs and maybe 50-60W for the mobo and rams? Factoring in PSU efficiency and no GFX I'd say we are looking at 350-360w from the wall.

As far as PPD goes, it's single i7 < Quad Opteron < Dual Gainestown.
Energy efficiency is Quad Opteron < single i7 < Dual Gainstown

While I'd really love to have one of those quad sockets I doubt it'll pay off with the killer elec cost around here. Plus, I put a stop on new cruncher expenses :p:

Still thinking about it tho.

What comes to prices i'd say it goes like this(most expensive first):
Dual Harpertown < Single i7 < Quad Opterons

And what comes to awesomeness rate (least awesome first):
Single i7 < Dual Harpertowns < Quad Opterons

Btw if you're lucky those mobos are S4985-SI models which support 6 core opterons! But most likely just S4985-E which supports cheaper shanghai cpus (6MB L3 Cache HT-1 (2.0GT)) like: 8374HE, 8376HE 8378, 8380, 8382, 8384, 8386SE.

[Sparky]

What comes to prices i'd say it goes like this(most expensive first):
Dual Harpertown < Single i7 < Quad Opterons

And what comes to awesomeness rate (least awesome first):
Single i7 < Dual Harpertowns < Quad Opterons

Btw if you're lucky those mobos are S4985-SI models which support 6 core opterons! But most likely just S4985-E which supports cheaper shanghai cpus (6MB L3 Cache HT-1 (2.0GT)) like: 8374HE, 8376HE 8378, 8380, 8382, 8384, 8386SE.

:eek:

Plus the add-on board... 48 cores. *faints*

[Kristall-99]

Here (http://cgi.ebay.com/Opteron-8347-Quad-core-1-9GHz-4x-512K-2MB-Socket-F_W0QQitemZ330341874385QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item4ce9e8fad1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1234|293%3A2| 294%3A50) is another ebay listing, its a auction but its starting out cheaper than the ones listed in first post

And Here (http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330329498688) for some 2.5ghz opterons. pretty sure the're compatible.

this keeps getting better and better. I don't know if i can resist.

[jcool]

Well at least I could fit the mobo.. on this :D

http://database.he-computer.de/Bilder/dualgainsy/CIMG1239.JPG

[Otis11]

Projected power draw would be 4x70W for the CPUs and maybe 50-60W for the mobo and rams? Factoring in PSU efficiency and no GFX I'd say we are looking at 350-360w from the wall.

I think it would be a little higher - PSU not that efficient - but still, if it could pull 35k+ WCG, that's what I call an energy efficient cruncher! :yepp:

[s0lid]

Here (http://cgi.ebay.com/Opteron-8347-Quad-core-1-9GHz-4x-512K-2MB-Socket-F_W0QQitemZ330341874385QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defau ltDomain_0?hash=item4ce9e8fad1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1234|293%3A2| 294%3A50) is another ebay listing, its a auction but its starting out cheaper than the ones listed in first post

And Here (http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330329498688) for some 2.5ghz opterons. pretty sure the're compatible.

this keeps getting better and better. I don't know if i can resist.

1. There's only one of those 8347s and it's not a buy now price, those in first post are sold in pairs.

2. There's only 3 of those 8358s and they're sold separately. Yea those work with this board.

[jcool]

I think it would be a little higher - PSU not that efficient - but still, if it could pull 35k+ WCG, that's what I call an energy efficient cruncher! :yepp:

Energy efficiency depends on where you live and on your perspective... Currently the Dual Gainestown is king of the hill, 46-48k/d at 275W from the wall.
If elec costs weren't sky high around here I'd grab one in a heartbeat.

And I have to make a correction to that PPD guesstimate.. it was a little high, more like 32-34k/d.

[Duh]

The more I look at it , the more it fascinates me...
No escape from the 4 headed monster :shocked::eek:


same here but I havent any chances of having it ( not real, virtual or whatever).. and like s0lid, my ass will also belong to jcool j/k as he is being extremely generous

[Duh]

:eek:

Plus the add-on board... 48 cores. *faints*

didn´t MM said we could even add a daughtherboard fore moar cpus? dont hit me if I am saying nonsense

can we have an auto merge function so I don´t have 2 posts? thanks

[Movieman]

There is a reality that building multi socket systems generally returns less bang for the buck than single socket systems/
If this with 16 cores would deliver 32K as jcool said then it's comparable to a single i7-920 clocked at 4GHz..
What you have to weigh is a lot of factors:
initial cost
length of life
dependability
heat
elec use
Initial cost is very good I think
length of life is also good as Tyan makes good boards
dependability is as above, server board and should last
heat, I don't know what those cpu's pump out but at stock shouldn't be bad
elec use..???

[Hymay]

Plus the Quad socket just blows an i7 920 out of the water on the "is it not Nifty?!" scale :D

I think 30-32k would be a pretty reasonable bet on PPD, using PappaG's 1354's as a baseline. I think he's averaging 10k/day @ 2.4ghz on one of those. A 1.9 would be roughly 79/80% of the clock. So if 4 1354's would be 40k/day, then 4 1.9s might ballpark 31.6-32k, with a little fudge from being further into the "average" of the quorum, instead of on the bleeding edge of high points claims :)

Some other supporting numbers, 2 phenoms from my stable :
9850 @ 2.8ghz gets approx 12k/day (Ubuntu64)
9950 @ 2.6ghz gets approx 11k/day (XP 32)

[jcool]

Ok then 32k it is ;)
Tho with a mediocre PSU and 110VAC elec draw might be closer to 400W actually.. without a proper GPU, that is.

[Kristall-99]

1. There's only one of those 8347s and it's not a buy now price, those in first post are sold in pairs.

2. There's only 3 of those 8358s and they're sold separately. Yea those work with this board.

oh dang, if the're were enough of those 8358's and were sold in a pair at that price i woulda bought it over my lunch time.

[CaptMorgan]

I believe this is great, but each person is in there own court when it comes to factors and considerations as mentioned by others-
cost of hardware+electric+PPD= to each there own of what is important. I myself don't mind a little extra when it comes to the electric bill as long as the points returned are reasonable and worth it.

[Movieman]

I believe this is great, but each person is in there own court when it comes to factors and considerations as mentioned by others-
cost of hardware+electric+PPD= to each there own of what is important. I myself don't mind a little extra when it comes to the electric bill as long as the points returned are reasonable and worth it.

The nice part about the way you went with the sammy's is if the elec gets tight you can shut one or two down till things are under control..

[Sparky]

Well I guess I can say I've updated my dreams a little.

I dream to have a 48U rack, with the bottom half with a few rackmount cases with some boards like these + the addon boards and 6-core CPUs. 8 sockets x 6 cores = 48 cores in ONE rig! :D And water cool it all too! :D

</dreams>

[s0lid]

While I'd really love to have one of those quad sockets I doubt it'll pay off with the killer elec cost around here. Plus, I put a stop on new cruncher expenses :p:

Still thinking about it tho.

Well that didn't last long :rofl:

[Duh]

can someone tell me (guess) what this is? I can help you: it is not a picture of Giselle Bundchen :P :

http://www.youwatched.com/photo/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=14676&g2_serialNumber=1

[s0lid]

can someone tell me (guess) what this is? I can help you: it is not a picture of Giselle Bundchen :P :

http://www.youwatched.com/photo/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=14676&g2_serialNumber=1

With that board you can add 4 more cpus to S4985 system :yepp:
www.tyan.com/manuals/m_m4985_100.pdf have a look at this pdf.

[Duh]

With that board you can add 4 more cpus to S4985 system :yepp:
www.tyan.com/manuals/m_m4985_100.pdf have a look at this pdf.


Thanks, I knew, I was just trying to make a guess contest :D
the bad thingys is that costs almost twice the board itself..is any flavour of win able to watch 48 cores ?

[jcool]

Yes, Server 03 and 08 Enterprise and Datacenter. Duh check your PM ;)

[s0lid]

Yes, Server 03 and 08 Enterprise and Datacenter. Duh check your PM ;)

Yea and +1000 different linux distros :ROTF:

[Duh]

how much space will the daughterboard+the mobo withs its cpu´s occupy? there is no chance of placing them in a 1u chassis, right?

[Martijn]

how much space will the daughterboard+the mobo withs its cpu´s occupy? there is no chance of placing them in a 1u chassis, right?

My guess is 4U at least for 8 CPUs.

[TheKarmakazi]

would be some good wprime ownage @ the bot too :D

[Particle]

In case nobody else mentioned it: Careful with those S2912 boards from Tyan. The super-cheap ones aren't the -E revision, and they don't have split power planes. You can't even officially run Barcelonas on them (but they work). I don't think Shanghais and Istanbuls even have a chance of working.

[karl_eller]

how much space will the daughterboard+the mobo withs its cpu´s occupy? there is no chance of placing them in a 1u chassis, right?
Considering U1 is only 44mm (that's <2" for you weird Imperial types) tall, I would say no ;) And honestly, you wouldn't want that much heat in a U1 case anyway. I'd be saying it'd be needing a U4.

Eller

[jcool]

Hey Particle ;)

I guess your build inspired me, or I just realized I didn't have enough AMDs, or it was the quad socket...

But I just bought one of those (http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron8000/MCP55/H8QME-2.cfm) off ebay.

Prepare yourself for some 16 vs. 12 core benching mate :p:
And also 16 Thread vs. 12 core ofc ;)

[Particle]

That's cool. :) Everyone needs some green silicon floating around. Some people buy what they think is the fastest. Other people buy what they think is the best value. I tend to buy what I think is the most interesting. heh

Benchmarks away. I'll run anything you want to compare with provided it is free and either obvious to run or explainable. New motherboard tomorrow!

[[XC] gomeler]

would be some good wprime ownage @ the bot too :D

Actually to be honest.. I think this setup will be just slightly faster than a Core i7 at 5GHz for wPrime. However if you find a way to OC the Opterons to 2.4GHz and it gets much more interesting.

[Duh]

Hey Particle ;)

I guess your build inspired me, or I just realized I didn't have enough AMDs, or it was the quad socket...

But I just bought one of those (http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron8000/MCP55/H8QME-2.cfm) off ebay.

Prepare yourself for some 16 vs. 12 core benching mate :p:
And also 16 Thread vs. 12 core ofc ;)

I didnt know that particle had one of this machines.. I thought no one had created one :eek:

edit: wow sh.. impressive mobo you bought jcool :O

[Martijn]

Are you going to watercool it? :cool:

[jcool]

I didnt know that particle had one of this machines.. I thought no one had created one :eek:

edit: wow sh.. impressive mobo you bought jcool :O


Naw, particle has a dual socket mobo but populated with 2 Hexacores ;)

@Martijn: Not at first, but I might later on. The Barcelona HEs are only 60W chips, they don't need water. Now if I can get the hexacores on there and maybe OC them a bit, that's another story :D

[Particle]

I don't even think I've seen the 8000 series hexes for sale yet. Granted, I haven't looked off of Newegg. It would be interesting though. :) 2.5 GHz appears easy with them.

[s0lid]

I don't even think I've seen the 8000 series hexes for sale yet. Granted, I haven't looked off of Newegg. It would be interesting though. :) 2.5 GHz appears easy with them.

We've, expensive :shakes:

[Duh]

Naw, particle has a dual socket mobo but populated with 2 Hexacores ;)

@Martijn: Not at first, but I might later on. The Barcelona HEs are only 60W chips, they don't need water. Now if I can get the hexacores on there and maybe OC them a bit, that's another story :D


Yeah, I read most of the thread after I got noticed he was playing tough :cool:. Very nice work done by particle :)

[WesM63]

I missed out on the deals, but i'll keep and eye out. I've always wanted a quad socket system :)

[Bgriffs]

Since I have the opportunity to avoid both taxes and high shipping on this, I am really temped.
I don't have a quad socket rig yet and no AMDs, so it would be a really great addition to my farm...
BUT I put a stop on all new cruncher expenses because things are getting out of hand as it is, so I will withstand temptation.. for now :D

Particle has a dual hexie build going over in the AMD section. Once he gets some more ram to finish her out it'll be a good indication of what AMD's new opty's can do. I'd encourage anyone looking for dual socket AMD performance numbers to take a look over there once he's done and got her up and running.

[CaptMorgan]

Particle has a dual hexie build going over in the AMD section. Once he gets some more ram to finish her out it'll be a good indication of what AMD's new opty's can do. I'd encourage anyone looking for dual socket AMD performance numbers to take a look over there once he's done and got her up and running.

Could you link to Particle's build in the AMD section, I looked a little but could not find it- would like to check it out:D. I keep wanting to pick up an AMD chip but I keep suckered into buying all these intel chips:cool:

[Particle]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226283

Things start getting interesting (eg, I actually bought everything) on page 4. New board came in today (I got a refund on the open box one that had a defective socket), and I'll be posting some more pictures and stats tonight when I get off work.