XFX HD 4890 Black Edition Overclocked 1GHz card (new bios with higher voltage for us)

[purecain]

just noticed this article on fud about a new XFX HD 4890 Black Edition Overclocked 1GHz card.... http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/13826/40/

quote... XFX’s results are 11% better compared to Sapphire’s Radeon HD 4890 running at reference 850MHz.

ok so now we need the bios... anyone work at a hardware store....

if you do and you have one in stock.. get it in a pc quick sharp and rip the bios for us...

just gonna have a look on the xfx site to see if the bios is up for dll....

:up:

[ColonelCain]

I would hope that it is at least 11% better, when it is running at 150mhz higher core.

[purecain]

come on people... were all waiting on the new 1ghz bios... does anyone have it.... (crosses fingers and awaits replies)

[Michowski]

Wait so if I uploaded the BE bios onto my 4890, I can run those clocks without issue? I got the 850mhz version xfx

[purecain]

as long as the voltage has been bumped in the BE bios yes.....::cool:

i'd bet my pc on it.....

[Michowski]

Well then lets hurry up people. Gotta be somebody willing to share.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I will paypal $5 to whoever puts this BIOS up and confirmed working

[Glow9]

Why is it you need to get the BIOS from a store but can't get them from XFX? I'm missing something here.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

you use GPU-Z to rip the BIOS off of the Black Edition card

[webwilli]

i have two xfx 4890 BE ;)

Here is the bios

http://rapidshare.com/files/243542705/RV790.bin.html

good luck and have fun...

[buddatech]

NICE! I will give it a go once I hear of some successful results, I have 2 regular XFX 4890's max OC is 920/1135 on one and 935/1125 on the other that's with fan on auto.

Would like to say thanks to webwilli for uploading!!

[OC Nub]

It seems there is no voltage increase with this bios. Does that mean they are just binned?

[buddatech]

It seems there is no voltage increase with this bios. Does that mean they are just binned?

Awww man! You had to be the bearer of bad news.... huh

[OC Nub]

RBE shows 1.313v. I think its a good thing for the guys that spent the extra money to get what they paid for. Not so good for the rest of us though.

[zanzabar]

RBE shows 1.313v. I think its a good thing for the guys that spent the extra money to get what they paid for. Not so good for the rest of us though.

maybe but there may also be changes to the over current protection setting and there could be other timings and non core clocks changed, it might help.

[OC Nub]

Maybe its worth a shot. Since the voltages are the same, this can be done with ati winflash? may try it tonight, If I do I will post results.

[webwilli]

Wait !!!

Voltage is not the same. You must check Voltage Registers:

http://www.abload.de/img/xfx-be-voltnps8.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=xfx-be-voltnps8.jpg)

3D is 1.4375 Volt :)

But where is the problem with the voltage?
You can tweak every 4890-Bios with RBE.

[OC Nub]

Thanks webwilli, I will try this bios for sure. :up:

[Darth_Penguin]

Has anyone flashed theirs yet? Curious to see what the results were.

[BooStFeD]

Just created my usb boot stick and tried to DL this bios. Bios can not be DL anymore. Something about it has reached its limit of DL's :mad:. Someone else host the bios please. I would like to give it a shot on my ASUS 4890.

[OC Nub]

http://rapidshare.com/files/243785278/RV790.zip.htm

[webwilli]

Just created my usb boot stick and tried to DL this bios. Bios can not be DL anymore. Something about it has reached its limit of DL's :mad:. Someone else host the bios please. I would like to give it a shot on my ASUS 4890.

new link

http://rapidshare.com/files/243801470/RV790.bin

no DL-Limit.

[GAR]

does this actually increase voltage?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

new link

http://rapidshare.com/files/243801470/RV790.bin

no DL-Limit.

do you have a paypal account? seriously, I wasnt kidding about the $5


does this actually increase voltage?

yes

[Mean Machine]

Not every HD4890 will do this though. I have a HIS card that tops out at 960MHz, even at 1.45V.

[BooStFeD]

new link

http://rapidshare.com/files/243801470/RV790.bin

no DL-Limit.
Thank you very much sir.....

This bios did brick my ASUS4890 :rolleyes: but she is now saved an good as new.

Had to go dig up a PCI graphics card to flash original bios again.

Not to sure why this would not work on my Ref. ASUS 4890 but i was in big hopes it would :(

Guess i will keep using Voltage Factory to increase voltages. SmartDoctor is rubbish as RivaTuner pluggin is too.

I could always try to modify my oem bios 3d voltage some day but then the CCC limit of 1000mhz will come into play :slapass:

[Razrback16]

Ok, I've got my two 4890s in Crossfire, getting ready to put the waterblocks on them. What is the easiest way to O/C both cards and do voltage tweaks to them at the same time? I know Rivatuner doesn't support multi-gpu o/cing. Would love to just flash the BIOS on both if RBE allows voltage tweaks (if this is the case, is there a guide out for BIOS voltage tweaking?)

[purecain]

ahhhhhhhh..... i'm back in the uk tommorow... should have some time on sunday afternoon to flash my 4890 with this bios....

thankyou for the bios....:up:

[Michowski]

OK well im new to this but whats steps do I need to take to flash the bio's with the BE?

[Darth_Penguin]

I wonder if Boostfed's problem is isolated or if other non-XFX owners are going to have an issue?

[Mean Machine]

I wonder if Boostfed's problem is isolated or if other non-XFX owners are going to have an issue?

If your card won't do 1GHz with 1.43V, it wont work, as simple as that. Test it first with VoltageFactory and CCC/Rivatuner before flashing.

[purecain]

i think you are very unlucky if your stock 4890 wont do 1000mhz @1.43v....

personally i would use crysis as a stability test for this bios... i wouldnt use furmark...

[NaMcO]

My Sapphire on the other PC goes to 1000MHz with only 1.37v. I put a link to RivaTuner in the registry startup so it increases the voltage on boot. The CCC does the rest: 1000/1150. I would flash the card as it works perfectly with no artifacts like that, but the warning message about messing with the voltage registers scares me :p

[purecain]

warning with the voltage registers....:( ok can we have some feedback from anyone who has flashed this bios successfully....:up:

NaMco's making me worried...:eek:

[NaMcO]

Yeah you know, RBE (Radeon Bios Editor) issues a warning that says your BIOS will never work again :rolleyes: when you try to modify the registers. Might just be a disclaimer, but i don't wanna fry my 4890 :p:

[purecain]

so once youve flashed and it doesnt work... you might not be able to go back... hmm BooStFeD flashed his asus4890 and was able to flash back...

i was one of the first people to flash the 4870 and brick it....untill wizard helped out that is... i think i'm gonna try the flash....

4890 BlackEdition @1ghzCore will look nice in my sig... :)

[WaterFlex]

I dream on this 4890!

[ceemic]

I have Sapphire HD4890 1GB and I just flashed that XFX BIOS, but no success. There appears a warning, that "one of the card power connectors is not connected to PSU bla bla bla..." :shrug:


But I moded my card's def BIOS and that voltage setting works fine (~1,45/1,47V 2D/3D). Tho, theres no need for that Vgpu 24/7; PWM area gets pretty hot. And max Vgpu with soft is still ~1,49V@3D load.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

why the friggen hell would you have 1.45v 2d :eek:???? 2d voltage should NOT be changed!

[ceemic]

SNiiPE_DoGG, sry, I wrote wrong. 2D is ~1,06V orsmth like that. I meant "idle" 3D and "full load" 3D.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

k, I was confused :rofl: I know your one of the guys who knows your stuff :up:

[ceemic]

SNiiPE_DoGG, tnx for Your kind words. You have my highest respect here in XS long time now :up:

[TheCool]

When is the actual black edition card supposed to be available in the US?

[BooStFeD]

I have Sapphire HD4890 1GB and I just flashed that XFX BIOS, but no success. There appears a warning, that "one of the card power connectors is not connected to PSU bla bla bla..." :shrug:


But I moded my card's def BIOS and that voltage setting works fine (~1,45/1,47V 2D/3D). Tho, theres no need for that Vgpu 24/7; PWM area gets pretty hot. And max Vgpu with soft is still ~1,49V@3D load.

Same message i got after flashing my ASUS to the XFX BE bios :shakes:

I am not familar with RBE and modding. What must i do in order to change the default 3d voltage to say 1.45??

[ceemic]

BooStFeD, look post #17 in first page. Change that 0x18 value to 1,4375. "Def" 3D should be 1,3125.

[Darth_Penguin]

So far 3 people have tried with no success? Has anyone actually gotten the bios to work?

[purecain]

my flight home was canceled today and i've got to wait until the 16th for another flight... but i will test my xfx card then...

all though we have still made some progress, now that we are gaining some familiarity with the 4890 voltage(register) settings...

i at least know that i will be able to modify my bios as soon as i get back (using RBE) and have a 4890 work permanently @ 1ghz in 3d apps.....:clap:

i cant see any reason to buy a 1ghz card now that we have this info....
the amount of 4890 gpu's that cant hit 1ghz are few compared to the amount of cards that reportedly can....
mine does 1ghz @ 1.375v
happy days....:up:

[webwilli]

i love my two XFX BE ;)

http://pics.mwirths.de/pics/thumb/06_31103.JPG (http://pics.mwirths.de/pics/06_31103.JPG)

but i need a third card :)

[ceemic]

webwilli, nice! What Vgpu? My Sapphire clocks pretty much the same: http://ceemic.pri.ee/3d1/hd4890_79646.JPG (def cooler@1,49V) :)

[purecain]

i cant get onto the 3rd page of this thread.... wtf.....?????

[R31Nismoid]

Forum is outta sync again :)

Give it a while, few hours. Its been like that for 3hrs or so (i tried to get to page 3 also)

[webwilli]

webwilli, nice! What Vgpu? My Sapphire clocks pretty much the same: http://ceemic.pri.ee/3d1/hd4890_79646.JPG (def cooler@1,49V) :)

1.38 Volt.

But there is a little problem: i can´t go over 1066 MHz :(

1066 is benchstable with 1.38 Volt
if i set 1067 the cards crash immediately.
i test 1.45 volt, but no chance.

[Razrback16]

Webwilli, what cooling are you using?

[webwilli]

Default and water

[OC Nub]

I flashed the card to 1.35v and was able to do 1000mhz.

[Falkentyne]

My non xfx one (sapphire stock) will do is 970 @ 1.4v (1100 memory, forgot if 1150 is artifact free or not though). 980 won't crash though. How the heck do you people get such good cards and I get the worst ones ever? I feel like just throwing away $300 and buying another now....or maybe I should just wait for the 5000 series?

[purecain]

I flashed the card to 1.35v and was able to do 1000mhz.

well hopefully when i get back that is exactly what i'll be posting....

have you checked in crysis wars to see if there are any artifacts...

[OC Nub]

I don't have Crysis Wars installed. I have been using Furmark for a while now for testing, it seems to stress it pretty hard.

[OC Nub]

My non xfx one (sapphire stock) will do is 970 @ 1.4v (1100 memory, forgot if 1150 is artifact free or not though). 980 won't crash though. How the heck do you people get such good cards and I get the worst ones ever? I feel like just throwing away $300 and buying another now....or maybe I should just wait for the 5000 series?

My other 4890 is not a good clocking card, it does 945mhz max with stock volts. This card did 990 stock but locked me up at 1000mhz before which is why I only gave it a small bump. I wont run it at 1000, Ill flash it back and leave it at 900. Just wanted try for 1000mhz.

[Razrback16]

I didn't flash BIOS on mine, but both my cards do 1000MHz core at 1.4 volts -- 975MHz @ 1.38 volts. Mem does 1080MHz @ stock volts. I noticed my v-regs start to get up around ~100*C which I know is close to operating temp, but it makes me a tad uncomfortable...any of you guys pushed closer to 1.5 volts on water? What kind of clocks are you seeing? What are your v-reg temps with that much voltage?

[purecain]

i can do 1000mhz stable at 1.375 but it gets a little jumpy in 3dmark vantage..... needs 1.4 to be 100% stable... successfully flashed my old bios with increased voltage using RBE to increase the voltage registers....

card overclocks like a champ.... :)

[Darxide]

Anybody know if these cards are reference PCB layout?

Does a standard 4890 waterblock fit the black edition?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Anybody know if these cards are reference PCB layout?

Does a standard 4890 waterblock fit the black edition?

yes they are ref and yes they fit

[Glow9]

I haven't found any BE's for sale anywhere online. Where did you guys find them?

[Darxide]

yes they are ref and yes they fit

Cool, thanks.
E-mailed XFX a week ago, no answer yet!

[Goldlocke]

pretty nice guys!

@purecain: So what model is your vidcard exactly? (vendor, edition). thx :)

[webwilli]

I haven't found any BE's for sale anywhere online. Where did you guys find them?

you can buy it in germany ;)

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a435800.html

[Glow9]

you can buy it in germany ;)

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a435800.html

Scheiße not quite gonna help, I got almost a month before I plan on buying it anyways.

[Jor3lBR]

eWiz has a 'secret link' for the XFX Radeon HD 4890 Xtreme HD-489A-ZDEC for $185 :up: I already got one and gonna try this BIOS out.

For those who didn't check this BIOS is already on file @techPowerUp! XFX_4890 Black Edition Bios (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/47876/XFX.HD4890.1024.090424_1.html)

[purecain]

pretty nice guys!

@purecain: So what model is your vidcard exactly? (vendor, edition). thx :)

i have an xfx hd4890xtx....:up:

[Jor3lBR]

i have an xfx hd4890xtx....:up:

That's the one I got, so you successfully flashed the XFX Black Bios or you just edited yours?

[purecain]

i just edited the card.... noone gave any indications to make me believe it was worth trying.... editing the voltage registers was just too easy to do....

+ i new that method would work....

[phsinc1]

here it is: http://hotfile.com/dl/9404828/93b2934/XFX.HD4890.1024.BE.bin.html

[d412k5t412]

has anyone tried those bios?

i have 2 xfx 4890's and I can't figure out how to up the voltage. I cant overclock at all with these cards.

[fookdat]

I have been following this forum and and thought I would post my results..

I have the XFX 4890 XXX edtion card and I was not able to get over 975 on the core with out seeing artifacts. I had then flashed my card with the XFX black edition bios and the card worked right on bootup.. I did reinstall drivers. I have had zero issues with the fan running on auto. Pretty nice all I had to do was flash the card. :D

The card does now get higher and runs more around 67% with the new bios while in game and its a nice heater for sure. It used to run around 47% but I will sacrifice a little more fan noise and turn the surround up for the additional stable performance for sure!!

I think I may try and mod the bios with little voltage tweaks ata time may try 1.35v see if I can stable around 1000/1000 with lower voltage!

I have maxed out my card though at 1025/1100 which is very nice indeed and even beat my buddies new system Core I7 920 OCed at 4.2GHz on water :up:

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4223/54822054.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqnFG79)

[d412k5t412]

here it is: http://hotfile.com/dl/9404828/93b2934/XFX.HD4890.1024.BE.bin.html

I downloaded and flashed and it didn't work with my card.

This is my Bios http://rapidshare.com/files/279723534/RV790.bin.html. Can anyone figure out how to unlock the voltage on that? Thats all i really need!

[Wishmaker]

My CrossFire setup is using two XFX HD4890 XXX cards and I had no problems using ATI overdrive to clock beyond BE frequencies. I was simply stunned about the potential they have. Should I flash them ? Considering I have no issues with them at higher frequencies? What benefits do I have from this BE BIOS?

[omega1alpha]

This isn't meant as an insult or flame because I enjoy overclocking as much as the next guy around here, but I have to ask why pressure yourselves to hit the 1ghz mark with the 4890? Are there significant real world gains? I have my card at 960/1150 and I'm probably only seeing around 4-5 fps gains over stock in most games. Sure this might help with some minimum fps in certain graphical intensive games, but I don't see the need to stress over this stuff. I for one realized years ago that overclocking a gpu is not as significant as stretching the cpu. You just don't see the real world gains with the gpu. Now the cpu is a totally different animal. I could be wrong about this, but please enlighten me with your experiences because it just doesn't seem worth the hassle.

[oc550be]

This isn't meant as an insult or flame because I enjoy overclocking as much as the next guy around here, but I have to ask why pressure yourselves to hit the 1ghz mark with the 4890? Are there significant real world gains? I have my card at 960/1150 and I'm probably only seeing around 4-5 fps gains over stock in most games. Sure this might help with some minimum fps in certain graphical intensive games, but I don't see the need to stress over this stuff. I for one realized years ago that overclocking a gpu is not as significant as stretching the cpu. You just don't see the real world gains with the gpu. Now the cpu is a totally different animal. I could be wrong about this, but please enlighten me with your experiences because it just doesn't seem worth the hassle.

Are you joking? This is xtremesystems.org
Who cares about games... :D
Also 1000 is magical mark - we all want to break it (also 4Ghz on air (PhenomII) and similar

xtremesystems

[Wishmaker]

A friend of mine saw this thread and wanted to flash his XFX HD4890 XXX to the Black Edition. He did the following :

1. Downloaded RBE
2. ATI WinFlash
3. Downloaded the BE.BIN


He analysed both files, the original XXX.bin with the BE.bin and the Voltages seemed to be identical, for some reason. He tried to FLASH and got a checksum mismatch warning. He force flashed and rebooted. The card was bricked. The lovely message with no PSU detected. I lent him one of my cards and he flashed it back to the original BIOS and it works now.

For anyone else trying to do this, the method of flashing the XXX to BE does not work.

[purecain]

if you read the thread through, you see that we failed to flash the black edition bios successfully....

as an alternative you could just(from memory)

1. use RBE to load up the bios from YOUR card

2.open voltage registers option

3.change 3d voltage to 1.37

4.save and flash to your card

5.open ccc and oc to 1000mhzCore...

6.play games

job done....:up:

[frans2h]

i have XFX HD 4890 ..running 3 cfx oc to 1000/1000 ... here is the result... no mod bios..originally from the card and running well ..

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll15/frans2h/Eclipse%20Plus%203%20CFX/42003cfx1k-1kjpg.jpg

[fookdat]

A friend of mine saw this thread and wanted to flash his XFX HD4890 XXX to the Black Edition. He did the following :

1. Downloaded RBE
2. ATI WinFlash
3. Downloaded the BE.BIN


He analysed both files, the original XXX.bin with the BE.bin and the Voltages seemed to be identical, for some reason. He tried to FLASH and got a checksum mismatch warning. He force flashed and rebooted. The card was bricked. The lovely message with no PSU detected. I lent him one of my cards and he flashed it back to the original BIOS and it works now.

For anyone else trying to do this, the method of flashing the XXX to BE does not work.

APPARENTLY YOU DID NOT READ MY POST IT WORKED FOR ME WITH NO ISSUES AT ALL

GUESS IT IS HIT OR MISS WITH SOME CARDS CAUSE ALL I DID WAS FLASH MY XFX 4890 XXX CARD WHICH HAS A 6PIN AND 8PIN POWER CONNECTER WITH THE BE BIOS AND IT WORKS LIKE A CHAMP... I COULD NOT THIT THE BE SPECS WHEN JUST TRYING TO OVERCLOCK BUT FLASHING TO THE BE BIOS TO MY XXX CARD WORKED AND ALLOWED ME TO GO TO 1025/1100

SO AGAIN THE STATEMENT "For anyone else trying to do this, the method of flashing the XXX to BE does not work." IS INCORRECT BECAUSE YOU DID NOT READ ALL THE POSTS WHICH CLEARLY SHOWS IT HAS WORKED FOR SOME PEOPLE, IT DOES WORK BUT MAYBE NOT FOR ALL..... ALSO ENSURE THAT IF YOU ARE USING THE XFX 4890 XXX CARD THAT YOU USE THE XFX 4890 BLACK EDITION BIOS "DO NOT USE A DIFFERANT BRAND OF BIOS ON YOUR CARD".

[Crit]

@fookdat

8+6 pin power connector is non-reference design. Hence what worked for you did not work for others.

I will try upping the voltages on my reference design XFX 4890. Also, for those worrying about VRM temps try ZALMAN ZM-RHS90. I had to grind one down in order to have it fit under my AC twin Turbo cooler, but after that the VRM's never go over 80 under furmark (at stock clocks though).

Results and pics later on today

[Crit]

Alas, no dice. After editing the original BIOS with RBE, my particular card requires 1.425 to get to 990, and VRM's get into 90's (~80 max under furmark with stock voltage/clocks). Don't really feel like it's worth it to overvolt the card 1.45 just to hit the magical 1GHz card since I won't be able to use it for 24/7.

So I think the Black Edition cards are a combination of cherry picked cores AND increased vgpu. Perhaps will give the BE BIOS a shot tomorrow, just to make sure.

[Wishmaker]

I tried on my setup now and I read all the instructions back and forth. I always brick one and, yes I tried the original Black Edition BIOS. As i said in my first post in this topic, my xxx cards are quite the shocker :rofl:. No additional tweaks on my part, just CCC. Do I need the Black Edition BIOS?

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/Integrabyte/3DMark/th_41GHz.jpg (http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/Integrabyte/3DMark/?action=view&current=41GHz.jpg)
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/Integrabyte/3DMark/th_ORB_Performance.jpg (http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/Integrabyte/3DMark/?action=view&current=ORB_Performance.jpg)


P.S : those high temps are from LINX and not 3DMark.

[lbassa]

Hey guys i have a XFX HD4890 ZDFC v1.0(black PCB 850Mhz Core) 8+6 Pin, anyone try re-flash with BE RV790 ???