Help Me Hit 13k with AMD!!!

[qwerty57]

Im thinking about the swiftech H2O case with that GPU/pelt cooler what do you guys think.

new:
abit kx7-333r with volt/mods
agoia-y 0213 @1900+mhz
256meg pc3200xms
pny ti4600 A3 core with GPU volt/mod (1k resistor 1.81v)

old:
Ga-7VRXP rev 1.1
1500+@1725mhz @150mhz fsb old AGYGA-Y
1x512 samsung pc2700 @ ddr333 2,2,2,5,1
PNY TI4400 @ 328/683 thermaltake cooled and volt/modded
Audigy X-Gamer
2x80gig WD(SE)8meg raid 0
550 watt truepower

Member of the elite 12,000k ti4400 & AMD club!!
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4042006

[Marci]

personally i think the swiftech h20 thang is a bit over-rated... the tube size is too small.

We built a kit up consisting of the same waterblock adapted up to 1/2" going to an aquacoil radiator using an eheim 1046 pump and innovatek res. The block felt really cold to touch. Built up the swiftech kit and nowhere near as cold... the block felt so warm in fact that I never bothered fitting the kit to a cpu. Just dismantled it and used the parts...

Thing is, either the aquacoil is a massively better rad than the swiftech, or it's all due to the small tubesize...

any comments from experienced users?

[qwerty57]

what about that vapor phase case does that have a gpu cooler two or just a cpu one? I have 400-500 dollars for the cooling..what do you recommend. quiet if possible.

[Chong345]

qwerty,
IU had no problems hitting 13.5k with an rig very similar to yours with only aircooling.

settings were
193x10
agressive memory timings
337/769 (stock cooling)
then the usual tweaks plus a few others.

[qwerty57]

cool I feel happy now. just seems like a big jump from my 12k to 13k thats all.. even tho this is faster hardware.. ill post some screens soon of cpu max speed 3dmark ext.

[Chong345]

cool
Good luck :D

[Sayajin]

you should be able to do it fairly easy, use det 29.42, u know the standard tweaks im sure, ram tweas, cpu command decode etc...
have u done a clean format lately? as i guy at my work had tis setup
xp2000+ AGOIA 0208 'y'
kx7333r
256mb kingmax pc2700
triplex ti4200 3.3ns
he was only scoring 9.5k fully oced.
i grabbed a new baraa 40gb 7200rpm installed winxp, det 29.42, via 4.40 etc...overclocked his card to 300/600 and cpu to 1850mhz and scores 11721...pretty easy to hit 12k i think...you also have a ti4400 so you should be able to oc higher again..

[qwerty57]

ti4600 now volt/modded with these guys help..just ran at 1740mhz,166mhz fsb,ultra timings 2,2,2,5,1 card at 330/750 and scored 12,500 we'll see tommorow..

[Bravo]

Avoid the swiftech case. You can put together a better system from DIY components alot cheaper.

Also, as Bravo on OCAU stated, its all FSB. Get it up around 200 will give you between 600 and 1100 point increase in score.

[JBELL]

Originally posted by Marci
personally i think the swiftech h20 thang is a bit over-rated... the tube size is too small.

We built a kit up consisting of the same waterblock adapted up to 1/2" going to an aquacoil radiator using an eheim 1046 pump and innovatek res. The block felt really cold to touch. Built up the swiftech kit and nowhere near as cold... the block felt so warm in fact that I never bothered fitting the kit to a cpu. Just dismantled it and used the parts...

Thing is, either the aquacoil is a massively better rad than the swiftech, or it's all due to the small tubesize...

any comments from experienced users?

*speaks from experience*

tube size is not small 3/8th is good - remember you can go TOO big and then be anti-productive.

now yes other brands are as good or can do better but don't knock swiftech... their products do everything you need them to do! and then some - without fail.

[Bravo]

Originally posted by JBELL


*speaks from experience*

tube size is not small 3/8th is good - remember you can go TOO big and then be anti-productive.

now yes other brands are as good or can do better but don't knock swiftech... their products do everything you need them to do! and then some - without fail.

*speaks from experience*

I disagree. 3/8" is the bare minimum tube size to use, 1/2" is recommended for a couple of reasons:
1. Increased flow rate = Decreased temperatures
2. Larger thermal disipation when using a 1/2" rad (increased volume of water vs. material surface)

1/2" is the bare minimum requirements, i would not use anything less. I would also not use any 'pre-fab' kit, consisting of a case. It started with the Koolance, and im still worried.

[Hardass]

Originally posted by Sinnah


*speaks from experience*

I disagree. 3/8" is the bare minimum tube size to use, 1/2" is recommended for a couple of reasons:
1. Increased flow rate = Decreased temperatures
2. Larger thermal disipation when using a 1/2" rad (increased volume of water vs. material surface)

1/2" is the bare minimum requirements, i would not use anything less. I would also not use any 'pre-fab' kit, consisting of a case. It started with the Koolance, and im still worried.

First you should not tell people to avoid a certain system because you don,t like Prefab systems. Yes alot of people say 1/2 is better, alot of people are quite satisfied with 3/8. Comparing Swiftech, with Koolance is like comparing Corvette with Hugo. There is no comparison. Just for the Record Swiftech offers a 1/2 inch version of thier systems. I own a Swiftech, and have been quite happy with said system. Enough to have placed order for a second. My .02c

[Player0]

Is SwiftTech using 3/8" ID tubing now? I remember for a long time they actually used 3/8" OD tubing, which was 1/4" ID. I prefere 1/2" systems cause they work better :)

I know a couple guys with the QuietPower system and they work really well actually. Mdzcpa will be doing a review for our site using the TEC version of the system, and already has CPU temps of 5c idle and like 20c full load or so. Not sure what the GPU temps are, but they are TEC too so should be pretty good :)

Good thing about kits is that you can always start out wiht a kit and upgrade slowly from that point :)

[mdzcpa]

Someone call my name? ;)

Player0, the tubing is 3/8' OD :)

Yep, I can attest to the fact that the Swiftech system does work damn good. I was unsure about the whole "pre fab" thing myself too, but after I got the Quiet Power my doubts faded quickly.

A screaming top-of-the-line water rig it might not be, but I know my temps have been as good, if not better, than a lot of slapped together 1/2' systems I've seen around the forums.

That's because it's all about system balance. All the QP case consists of is Swiftech's H202-C kit put into a nice server case. And that kit is well balanced. Bigger lines do nothing if the rest of the system doesn't need it.

If I were to build something by hand, I would likely go 1/2' just because 1/2' systems provide better cooling all around. But that certainly does not mean the Swiftech H202 kit, or the Quiet Power, doesn't do a great job...in fact it plain rocks. Like Player0 said, I'm in the process of doing an article on a TEC upgrade article now. The H202 kit seems to be handling my 226w CPU TEC and 80w GPU tech quite well. Player0 correctly sited the temps. And that's with summer ambient temps here around a toasty 26c.

The QP case is a real nice way to enter water cooling, qwerty57. Al the homework is done...it's a well balanced effective system. Yes, you could build one better yourself....if you know what you're doing. But the QP will do better than most handbuilts systems which are not well concieved. So it boils down to personal choice.

[sjohnson]

Ha! I'd love to be chillin at a "toasty' 26. Although it's been cool here recently, I expect indoor temps of 28 minimum all next week. Hard on the comp's, but I can't cool my so-called energy efficient house - the electric bill for July was just a few cents shy of $500 to achieve a 26 temp. TG I'm moving outta here!

[mdzcpa]

Yikes...those ambient temps suck. My AC is pumping 24/7 just to keep me at 26c this summer.

Haven't seen the electric bill since June....and I don't think I want to either:(