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xDUCK
11-08-2003, 02:49 AM
Subject pretty much says it all... Are there any plans to combine the d10's super OCing & multi options with a higher FSB limit (300 :))? My board is rock solid at 250FSB, it would be interesting to see if it could go further... But d10 is the only BIOS that OC's worth a damn (any other BIOS, even d14beta, isn't stable at 250).

This issue may have been beaten to death already... :p But basically what I want to know is, is there a possibility of essentially d10 + higher FSB limit? I don't really care about all the other fixes, because I've had no problems. :)

Thank you for your time!

Thanks again,
Mike
st0nedpenguin
11-09-2003, 04:48 AM
You read my mind, I would kill to have the 10/10.5 multipliers back in a new BIOS revision, then I can see what this board can really do.
ABIT Marketing
11-10-2003, 11:11 AM
We are still researching this issue. Overall the NF7-S v2.0 is one of the best overclockable nForce 2 Ultra 400 chipset motherboard on the market. Most of our customer database do not push their motherboards to the extreme limit like you guys do. We are not completely ignoring the issue, but at the same time this issue is not our top priority at the moment. Thank you all for your understanding.
yotomeczek
11-17-2003, 12:48 PM
You can go higher using Nvidia System Utility ;)
My friend hit 263fsb ...
xDUCK
11-17-2003, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by yotomeczek
You can go higher using Nvidia System Utility ;)
My friend hit 263fsb ...

I know, I have run 262FSB completely stably, but only up to the 8 multiplier... 8.5 and up crash the system instantly when using the utility. :(

http://vipers.xtremedesign.ca/files/262.jpg :D
Holst
11-17-2003, 01:31 PM
I have the exact same problem Xduck.

If I use the sys utility to change fsb at high multi it just locks up, hopefully there will be a bit in the next NV bios for NF2 to get it working right.
xDUCK
11-17-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Holst
I have the exact same problem Xduck.

If I use the sys utility to change fsb at high multi it just locks up, hopefully there will be a bit in the next NV bios for NF2 to get it working right.

Yeah, but d10 is (by far) the most stable for me (when overclocked), and it's got 10 and 10.5 multis... And when you've got a chip that maxes out at 2.67Ghz, and you're aiming for 26x FSB, that 10 multi is pretty important. :(
yotomeczek
11-18-2003, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by xDUCK
I know, I have run 262FSB completely stably, but only up to the 8 multiplier... 8.5 and up crash the system instantly when using the utility. :(



What memory & CL (Vmem ??)
xDUCK
11-18-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by yotomeczek
What memory & CL (Vmem ??)

2-2-2-7 (7 is the fastest TRAS for me, faster than 11 - not for Sandra, but for 3d stuff), Corsair TwinX3200LL (rev 1.1/BH-5), 3.44v.:toast:
Lithan
11-19-2003, 10:54 AM
Duck, do you have a vdd mod? What voltage is it at? What about a L12mod? Is that dual or single channel ram?

I can't get much past 240 stable with relaxed ram timings... much less tight ones. My old board had a vdd mod to 2.0v... but with bios 1.8 it didn't help my FSB situation in the slightest.


And I'd LOVE seeing d10 with the S-ata fix and 300 FSB.
xDUCK
11-19-2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Lithan
Duck, do you have a vdd mod? What voltage is it at? What about a L12mod? Is that dual or single channel ram?

I can't get much past 240 stable with relaxed ram timings... much less tight ones. My old board had a vdd mod to 2.0v... but with bios 1.8 it didn't help my FSB situation in the slightest.


And I'd LOVE seeing d10 with the S-ata fix and 300 FSB.

That is 2.0v VDD, Single Channel (could switch to dual channel, board can handle it, but the other stick can't - I can switch current stick for other one and it's not stable). Stock 2500+, no L12 mod.
Lithan
11-19-2003, 11:48 AM
Nice. Did you use pencil or resister vdd mod?
xDUCK
11-19-2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Lithan
Nice. Did you use pencil or resister vdd mod?

Pencil.
Lithan
11-24-2003, 09:21 PM
Say duck, what is your 3.3v line at?
xDUCK
11-24-2003, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Lithan
Say duck, what is your 3.3v line at?

At the moment, 3.50v, because my Vdimm is only 3.26 (250x10, 2-2-2-11 :cool: ). When benchmarking, though, I've gone up to 3.8v.

And btw, I've now hit 266fsb. :D:toast:
Lithan
11-25-2003, 09:50 AM
Congrats... one more question, your ram divisor; 3/3, 4/4, 5/5 or 6/6?
xDUCK
11-25-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Lithan
Congrats... one more question, your ram divisor; 3/3, 4/4, 5/5 or 6/6?

3/3.
celemine1Gig
11-28-2003, 05:24 PM
You should give 6/6 a shot!!!

When do your problems with multiplier 10 and 10.5 start? Approximately at what FSB frequency?
lght1
11-28-2003, 07:50 PM
Hi

The problem for me begins at any fsb over 225, cpu enabled using either the 10 or 10.5 multi.
lght1
12-02-2003, 01:48 PM
Hi

It seems that there is nothing being done for the NF7-S's.

Perhaps someone could alter/mod the d1.0 bios which works for all the multis, and combine it with the newer ones.

There must be someone that could perhaps look into this ?
xDUCK
12-02-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by lght1
Hi

It seems that there is nothing being done for the NF7-S's.

Perhaps someone could alter/mod the d1.0 bios which works for all the multis, and combine it with the newer ones.

There must be someone that could perhaps look into this ?

This is an incredibly large (if not impossible) undertaking for someone who has relatively little information (as opposed to Abit engineers, who are given access to every datasheet about every component on the board).

Of course, ClockGen is now out for nForce2, so this is all moot! I am now running 260x10 with d10. :D
lght1
12-02-2003, 08:01 PM
Hi

d1.0 is not an option as it is so unstable as to be unusable. It seems not to like BH5 modules.

It would be nice if ABIT would fix existing products before releasing new ones, that also need fixing.
xDUCK
12-02-2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by lght1
Hi

d1.0 is not an option as it is so unstable as to be unusable. It seems not to like BH5 modules.

It would be nice if ABIT would fix existing products before releasing new ones, that also need fixing.

I'm using BH-5 with d10 just fine. :confused:
Smokin_Joe
12-02-2003, 09:39 PM
I've always had the 10 and 10.5 multi's since i got the board 2 months ago. I've flashed it 3 times and have them every time. Just can't use the 9 and 9.5 for some reason.:confused:
lght1
12-03-2003, 06:47 AM
Hi

What are your timings?

Your the only one I ever heard of using BH5 with d1.0 .
xDUCK
12-03-2003, 10:55 AM
2-2-2-11, and it runs perfectly fine (I've hit 266FSB @ 2-2-2-11 :D). I've used both Corsair and Kingston without problems. I know of a whole bunch of other people who use BH-5 with d10. :confused:
Holst
12-03-2003, 11:04 AM
D10 dosent work right for me and my twinmos Bh5.

but D16 is fine...
Lithan
12-03-2003, 08:45 PM
No bios works for me and my bh5... Cant break 166fsb with bh5.
lght1
12-04-2003, 06:05 AM
Hi

I slacked the timings to 11-3-3-2.5 , and still was not even 3d stable.

d1.0 isnt usable at all.

I may swap back to my Tbred, as that cpu seems to allow the NF7 to use the 10-10.5 multipliers.

I wonder if an old week Barton would do the same ?
Lithan
12-04-2003, 10:07 AM
I can use bh5 in slot 3 but not 1... gonna try 2 next so I can see if I will be able to dual channel using 2 & 3

Nope. BH5 only works in slot 3. Can't rma it because I've put mosfet sinks on it. But fortunately I've got some A-data that does 6-3-2-2 pretty well... so if the hyperx3000 stick Im getting this week does those timings at a good amount of mhz... I'm in good shape. Now I just need to find a way to get cpu int enabled at 233 with tight timings dual channel on a bios OTHER than 10... I need the SATA.