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eponymous
03-11-2009, 10:59 AM
For CPU I'll probably use Silver, but EK quite rightly suggests using Céramique as the Artic Silver 5 can have slight capacitive effects.

What does everyone used in terms of compund?

DeathWalking
03-11-2009, 11:06 AM
IC Diamond! It's a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to apply, but it gives you lower temps than anything else out there.
LINK (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=182778)


http://innovationcooling.com/Thermal_files/xtremesystemes.JPG

pneubmatic
03-11-2009, 11:07 AM
I have and use both Ceramique and AS5. I like them both. I tend to use the AS5 on processors, and the Ceramique on RAM, etc. The Ceramique is much thicker than AS5.

zanzabar
03-11-2009, 11:56 AM
if its a cpu with an ihs it dosnt matter, and i use mx2 since the diamond stuff can scratch stuff up

Sadasius
03-11-2009, 12:35 PM
if its a cpu with an ihs it dosnt matter, and i use mx2 since the diamond stuff can scratch stuff up

I use MX2 as well.

[XC] Hicks121
03-11-2009, 12:40 PM
if its a cpu with an ihs it dosnt matter, and i use mx2 since the diamond stuff can scratch stuff up

Yup the diamond stuff is great, but i lost all the markings off one of my cpu's, it is just barley visible now.

UObean
03-11-2009, 01:06 PM
MX-2 here. Crap that reminds me, I think I'm out of MX-2.

Hondacity
03-11-2009, 01:10 PM
mx2 only

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/hondacity25/mx2.jpg

iowamoe300
03-11-2009, 01:50 PM
MX2 for me as well. Although I got slightly better results using Liquid Metal Pro, but that stuff is impossible to get off and can weld your wb to the cpu.

dingdong555
03-11-2009, 02:36 PM
MX2 for me too, no break in time etc...

whe3ls
03-11-2009, 02:37 PM
i us mx2 here also

Brother Esau
03-11-2009, 02:38 PM
I just got my Big Tube of IC Diamond from Petras today. Had Ceramique on it and i9t dropped temps 3c off the Gate:)

SiGfever
03-11-2009, 02:39 PM
I typically use MX-2 but IC7 is some great stuff, but yes diamonds are abrasive and do a nice job of removing cpu print.

Think of it as a mini-lapping. :D

situman
03-11-2009, 04:07 PM
MX2 all the way.

LOUISSSSS
03-11-2009, 04:24 PM
i've used AS5 and IC Diamond.
IC Diamond is a pain in the ass to apply. i dont think its worth it. any margin of error equates any benefits of IC Diamond with the simple to apply AS5.

what is that TIM that comes with Swiftech CPU Blocks in that white no sticker tube

zanzabar
03-11-2009, 04:43 PM
swiftech gives AS ceramiq

570091D
03-11-2009, 04:45 PM
IC Diamond! It's a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to apply, but it gives you lower temps than anything else out there.


+1 :up:

LOUISSSSS
03-11-2009, 04:54 PM
swiftech gives AS ceramiq

is that the best stuff to use with a GTZ + Q6600?

slpdLoad
03-11-2009, 05:01 PM
+1 for MX2. Mmuch easier to clean off and reapply than AS5 for me.

zanzabar
03-11-2009, 05:15 PM
is that the best stuff to use with a GTZ + Q6600?

mx2 is better but it dosnt make that much of a difference

i like this
http://www.petrastechshop.com/arcomxthco3.html

gOtVoltage
03-11-2009, 05:16 PM
+1 :up:

IC7 is Best ,, Can out last the CPU when applied correctly.(must be exact when applying for best results)

AS5 works for a majority of stock to High/Medium Overclocks
" Needs reapplication after a period of use."

Ceramique..is nice for lapped IHS/HS/WB .. but does NOT cool as good under High load like As5.(cleans up easier that AS5)


MX-!! is my favoriate,, Apply correctly once and no need to apply again,,

MX-!! tolarates heat above 1.7volts . Applies very well and Cleans up nice between CPU changes .

IC7 for the Extreme Overclocker ,,
MX-!! (Easier to get a hand on:D) Outperforms AS5) keeping Load temps Cooler and dosnt need curing time!.

Now for the average joe ,, one can use Ceramique for Mild Overclocks or Stock applications ..

All Four paste above will show simalar Idle Temps when applied correctly.

IC7 or Mx-!! ,,they just perform the Coolest under High volts and High loads 24/7.

hotdun
03-11-2009, 05:25 PM
+1 Ic7

LOUISSSSS
03-11-2009, 05:32 PM
whats the best way to apply AS Ceramic for the GTZ + Q6600?
thin line? green pea sized in the middle? pea sized then spread with a card?

Devil_Dog
03-11-2009, 05:33 PM
+1 Ic7

:up:

mattkosem
03-11-2009, 05:34 PM
Another vote for ic7. I switched from MX-2.

--Matt

gOtVoltage
03-11-2009, 05:39 PM
whats the best way to apply AS Ceramic for the GTZ + Q6600?
thin line? green pea sized in the middle? pea sized then spread with a card?


If you spread with a card make THIN AS POSSIABLE. Put a pea ,, Spread very thin,,Then give a little left right nudge to set it once snugg.

I use a surgical glove and just smear a haze on a Lapped CPU/WB..

Remeber your filling the Pores of Copper/IHS/WB/HS to transfer heat . If you Put on too much you are basically building another barrier for heat to go through Vs letting it transfer through just the pores of the two metals.

DarthBeavis
03-11-2009, 05:41 PM
Ceramique . . . .was taught it is best for sub-zero temps . . . .phase change, LN2, etc. Not sure if that was before other stuff in this list came out or not

LOUISSSSS
03-11-2009, 05:48 PM
Ceramique . . . .was taught it is best for sub-zero temps . . . .phase change, LN2, etc. Not sure if that was before other stuff in this list came out or not

how does AS Ceramic compare to AS5 when using with water cooling? (non-sub zero temps)

gOtVoltage
03-11-2009, 05:50 PM
Ceramique . . . .was taught it is best for sub-zero temps . . . .phase change, LN2, etc. Not sure if that was before other stuff in this list came out or not


Does great for Low temps/ low -cooling tolarance.

It just Dosnt play nice when using basic water and or High end Air while @ insane volts.

LOUISSSSS
03-11-2009, 05:52 PM
Does great for Low temps/ low -cooling tolarance.

It just Dosnt play nice when using basic water and or High end Air while @ insane volts.

so i should just use my AS5 with my water cooling setup right?

sirheck
03-11-2009, 06:55 PM
MX2 for me as well, got 13c lower temps than any other shistuff.

Jhors2
03-11-2009, 07:08 PM
What do people think of the IC 24 carat or whatever??? I'm going to get some IC 7 or IC 24 now that everyone recommends it. Also how bad is it to clean the waterblock and the processor with some 93% isopropyl instead?? I do that until the q-tips come out perfectly clean, no more greyish color to them.

Sn@ke:~
03-11-2009, 07:26 PM
lapped CPU + lapped copper HS and Coollaboratory Liquid Pro

Both being lapped there is barely pore left on each surface and all you need to do is use one drop of metal liquid Coollaboratory on a brush for each surface and basically paint each surface of each the CPU and HS and you will get amazing result.

No danger no Honor :D no seriously there is no danger as long as you paint a thin lair on each surface far from the mobo because it is highly conductive and you wouldn't want a drop to fell on the mobo or anywhere else as a matter of a fact.

Make sure you paint that thin lair only on the surface of HS and CPU. You would need a full extra drop of it that would drip all the way down under the CPU to damage anything so you see it is pretty safe you would need to unaware (which you are not any more) or pretty darn stupid (which I'd love to think you are not) to paint your mobo with it or any electrical path such as those on PCB .

Applied like so the is no danger and it is easy to applied and work amazingly. Though you might need more than one drop due to the brush sucking it a little

LOUISSSSS
03-11-2009, 07:27 PM
ICD7 is a PAIN IN THE ASS to apply. i've applied it about 5 times and i dont think any of those came out perfect. If it normally takes a person 2 minutes to apply AS5 it'd take that person 15 minutes to apply ICD7...
those that Do do it well are pretty skilled and well practiced

sirheck
03-11-2009, 10:09 PM
MX2 for me as well, got 13c lower temps than any other shistuff.

No one picked up on my lie of 13c:shakes:
Anyone who says they get more than about 2c difference in temps
by changing any of the top TIM,s is either lying or had a bad mount
or the wrong spread of TIM paste.

Yes ive seen ALL the different reviews from every forum on the web.
Most ive seen is around 2c max difference.

And yes i have ran and overclocked with no paste at all and no lapping
for about a year on different sockets.
And adding paste does make a big difference in that situation

Jhors2
03-11-2009, 10:12 PM
No one picked up on my lie of 13c:shakes:
Anyone who says they get more than about 2c difference in temps
by changing any of the top TIM,s is either lying or had a bad mount
or the wrong spread of TIM paste.

Yes ive seen ALL the different reviews from every forum on the web.
Most ive seen is around 2c max difference.

And yes i have ran and overclocked with no paste at all and no lapping
for about a year on different sockets.
And adding paste does make a big difference in that situation


I just figured you were using butter as your other TIM :)

sirheck
03-11-2009, 10:16 PM
Butter eh?
Hmm:)

zanzabar
03-11-2009, 10:51 PM
ICD7 is a PAIN IN THE ASS to apply. i've applied it about 5 times and i dont think any of those came out perfect. If it normally takes a person 2 minutes to apply AS5 it'd take that person 15 minutes to apply ICD7...
those that Do do it well are pretty skilled and well practiced

thats a terrible apply time, mx-2 takes about 30sec or less for most applications

faster3200
03-11-2009, 11:01 PM
MX-2 for the cpu on air and water. All other situations and things, ceramique.