Heatkiller waterblocks at sidewindercomputers.com!!!!

[BringerOdeath]

Guys the Heatkiller CPU block are now avilable at Sidewindercomputers.com!!!
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/heatkiller1366.html

[003]

holy crap!

[DdotRoq]

I hate you. If this was only posted last week when I ordered my replacement apogee gtz.

[BringerOdeath]

They also have the LT version in pom instead which I woulp prefer being black for about $15 less....

[DarthBeavis]

wow that is a nice looking block. never seen one before

[003]

Too bad they don't have the FC GPU blocks...

[Eddie3dfx]

I'm not in love with the look, but it does perform a tiny bit better than the ek supreme (I believe from the few tests I saw)

[Adamantine]

I ordered some heatkiller blocks from aquatuning.de a week ago.

[CedricFP]

How are these supposed to perform vs Supreme LT and KL350?

[Chruschef]

How are these supposed to perform vs Supreme LT and KL350?

& swiftech GTZ... it is also an injector class waterblock.

[DarthBeavis]

& swiftech GTZ... it is also an injector class waterblock.

Does it have plasma injectors and quantum phase inverters?

[NaeKuh]

Does it have plasma injectors and quantum phase inverters?

no thats the KL-350.

also has a mater antimater ractor to keep your cpu cores a little cooler then other other blocks.

:rofl:

[WaterFlex]

Imba Block 0_0

[BringerOdeath]

I haven't seen how it performs on an I7 but I think bundymania had numbers on it vs other cpu blocks....

[faster3200]

I haven't seen how it performs on an I7 but I think bundymania had numbers on it vs other cpu blocks....

Yeah, I think the problem with that review though was that he had a pretty low flow setup which means the testing is worthless to most of us here. Feel free to correct me though, I would love to believe the results.

[systemviper]

i have 2 coming in from germany.... and there here before mine..

[BlueAqua]

I'll take some pictures of the Lt I ordered yesterday, and then maybe skinnee can borrow it.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

the lt is gorgeous.... hmmmmmm I want it... I think I will buy one when summer roles around and i get my computer back home again :)

[Camaroz06]

Mine should be here tomorrow, and I already have a 350 on the bench now with a 920, so we'll see soon enough:D

andyc

Cant wait to see some results, the 350 and EK LT are the two I am eying. A third would be nice to compare.

[BringerOdeath]

I can't wait to see results on the 3 blocks also, I have been procrastinating on what new block I will get for my current build in progress....I can't seem to choose, not enough data!!

[Camaroz06]

not enough data!!

Thats where I am at too! :yepp:

[BringerOdeath]

Yep,

I'm pretty excited about it myself, and having a blast with the 920 and BFG GTX 295 H2O on the bench. Be interesting to see what difference the HK3 makes, and I got one hell of a deal on it.:D

andyc

I still have my fuzion V2 jury-rigged on and I am enjoying my 2 Koolance GTX 295 blocks!!:D

[ShoNuff]

The HK blocks perform well traditionally. I was using the Heatkiller 2.0 and I was impressed. If you go back and search this forum many compared the current EK Supreme's baseplate to the baseplate Watercool used in the HK 2.0 block. I'm just happy we can finally get HK gear stateside. Big "Thumbs Up" to Sidewinder!

[Fragger]

Check out HK's 295 block.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t168/beveldrive/HKGTX295-1.jpg

Looks much lighter than all Ive seen so far, what a work of art.

[LogAn'sRun]

no standoffs. . .

[Broken]

Why is standoff's the new anithema?
Oh noes! I can't tighten it down with all my might.....
Every block I have owned didn't have them. My Aqua Computer block doesn't.

[century child]

In the product description for the 295 block it states that special distance rings prevent over-tightening in the VRM-area. So it sounds like standoffs are included.

[LeChuck]

HK 3.0 nickel plated .. can't buy it like this.

http://www.abload.de/img/_img_0830jx0d.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/_img_0831cvy8.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/_img_0832az1q.jpg

[dM@n]

Can anyone confirm if the block comes with a backplate and if the block works with 1/2" ID 3/4" OD Bitspower/Feser Compressions?

[Jamesrt2004]

want these in UK!

[Nickel020]

Can anyone confirm if the block comes with a backplate and if the block works with 1/2" ID 3/4" OD Bitspower/Feser Compressions?

Backplate is sold seperately and it won't work with 1/2" ID Feser compressions, it's not even close. It does work with the 45° Feser 1/2" compressions just fine though, I have it lying here in front of me :)

[anubis_is_evil]

Check out HK's 295 block.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t168/beveldrive/HKGTX295-1.jpg

Looks much lighter than all Ive seen so far, what a work of art.

the copper look so thin ? :shrug:

[Eddie3dfx]

Le Chuck. That looks very nice!
When will see more pics of your builds/worklog? I want to see that hardrive block in action. I also think you showed us a homemade-rad box once too. Keep us posted on projects :)

[inonefly]

HK 3.0 nickel plated .. can't buy it like this.

http://www.abload.de/img/_img_0830jx0d.jpg
]


looks amazing! is that a normal HK3 with a nickel plated top?

[Blacky]

Looks like compression fittings won't work on these right?

[BringerOdeath]

not without 45 degree adapters!!

[N19h7m4r3]

want these in UK!

Aquatuning.de is your friend.

Amazing store and great folks working there. Super cheap and delivery is fast :)

[ILikeCosmosS]

this makes me confused on what block i will get for the i7

(mcp655, mosfets will be cooled in the loop not to mention on a evga classfied)

this block seems good

cpu 350
heatkiller wb
apogee gtz
d-tek v2
ek supreme LT

which one to get so hard decision?

[LeChuck]

Le Chuck. That looks very nice!
When will see more pics of your builds/worklog? I want to see that hardrive block in action. I also think you showed us a homemade-rad box once too. Keep us posted on projects :)

Work in progress :)




looks amazing! is that a normal HK3 with a nickel plated top?

Yes is the normal copper version nickel plated.

[Jah]

want these in UK!

How about buying em from Watercool http://www.watercool.de/online-shop/ it's Germany (EU) so no worries.

[quattro_]

yes it wont work with BP 1/2" or 7/16" compression fitting, only way it to use a 45 :
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i46/quattro_rs/IMG_01871-1.jpg
iv been using it for a week now and its grate, got it from aquatuning.de .

[generics_user]

finally you guys over there can get this block

i still wait for mime because this dam aquaero is out of stock :mad:


and FYI: the top part on the full copper version has a clear coat so you it doesn't get stained over time :up:

[generics_user]

Wow..:shocked: Just got mine....can't wait to get it installed. I'm sure anyone that's gotten one of these will tell you, pics don't do it justice. I just hope it performs half as good as it looks, becuase it will kick pure ass if it does.

Very trick block and you just can't beat German millwork and Engineering IMO.

andyc

give us a small preview, and i hope you also got the original watercool backplate!

[generics_user]

Will do,

And yes, I got one for 775 and 1366 with mounting kit. Here's a question, and isn't clear in the directions. Does the backplate mount with the "WATERCOOL" lettering facing away from the MB, or pointing toward the MB with a 1366? Not sure it makes any difference, but I always like to get it right per the instructions is possible.

andyc

afaik away form mb

does the 1366 backplate come with those red standoffs so the backplate is flat on the motherboard backplate?

how is the mounting mechanism? it looks great on the pics!

will post some results once i get my rig done, i can't do comparisons between other blocks but with the aquaero i will be able to measure flow and water/core delta :up:

[Fragger]

the copper look so thin ? :shrug:

Thats a good thing! As the phobya block proved with its 1mm base, heat is transferred much quicker with a thin base.

[pika198]

Makes my GTZ look like a a Thermaltake block :(

[bigKr33]

Wow thats a fantastic looking block. Too bad it doesn't use the 1/2" compression fittings. I would've considered this block for my i7 build coming up. I'm still thinking of either the koolance 350 or dtek v2 though. Still would like to see the results of the block.

[generics_user]

Wow thats a fantastic looking block. Too bad it doesn't use the 1/2" compression fittings. I would've considered this block for my i7 build coming up. I'm still thinking of either the koolance 350 or dtek v2 though. Still would like to see the results of the block.

neither does the Dtek

i don't see the problem in not having compression fittings, 7/16" tubing on thick 1/2" fittings is just as secure as the ocmpression fittings are ;)

[quattro_]

@mcoffey
did it come with English Manual?

[j.almonte]

@mcoffey
did it come with English Manual?

Yes !! :up:

[quattro_]

ooh ok mine didn't seance i ordered it from Germany but Rico sent my the manual.

[bigKr33]

neither does the Dtek

i don't see the problem in not having compression fittings, 7/16" tubing on thick 1/2" fittings is just as secure as the ocmpression fittings are ;)

I just like the cleaner look, but yeah I realise that theres no real advantage. I may still consider it though.

[BringerOdeath]

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bishsiro45bg.html If you buy a couple of these you can use your 1/2" compression fittings!

[ShoNuff]

I found these on effizienzgurus.de not too long ago IIRC. They were posted by Bundymania.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/shonuff66/img_6357e7kx.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/shonuff66/img_635659d1.jpg

[bigKr33]

Very nice! Looks like the 1/2" fittings are just a little too big though :(

[Jhors2]

Yep,

And it said for chips like the i7, it's best to remove the the mid/distripution plate, so that will be fun to play with and see which way works better.

andyc

ROFLMAO!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl::ROTF::ROTF: Post of the day

[Yil]

Work in progress :)





Yes is the normal copper version nickel plated.

Hi

I can't see any opions on Aquatuning of Sidewinder for the Nichel plated version. Did you do it yourself?

Or is it just a special "onetime" version?

Thnx
Gr Yil

[LeChuck]

Hi

I can't see any opions on Aquatuning of Sidewinder for the Nichel plated version. Did you do it yourself?

Or is it just a special "onetime" version?

Thnx
Gr Yil

I did it my self. You can't buy it just nickel plated.

[Yil]

I did it my self. You can't buy it just nickel plated.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rzJHDdHabLw/RqoRBmBBI3I/AAAAAAAAAio/hbDZmA2lkHM/s400/crying%2Bbaby.jpg

Nice job!!

Gr Yil

[generics_user]

any updates andy?

[BlueAqua]

I got my block from Sidewinders today. I really like it so far, it's aesthetically pleasing, has good instructions, great mounting mechanism, solid backplate (although optional), and fairly minimalistic.

I can't speak for the thermals but it's damn sexy.

Here are a few pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/IMG_3786.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/IMG_3790.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/IMG_3782.jpg

[Jhors2]

It should be against forum policy for you guys to post all of this goodness, jeez.

[faster3200]

I got my block from Sidewinders today. I really like it so far, it's aesthetically pleasing, has good instructions, great mounting mechanism, solid backplate (although optional), and fairly minimalistic.

I can't speak for the thermals but it's damn sexy.

Here are a few pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/IMG_3786.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/IMG_3790.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/IMG_3782.jpg
:shocked: :worship::worship:

Wow... I am certainly buying one of those as long it is at least as good as a GTZ.

[dM@n]

I found these on effizienzgurus.de not too long ago IIRC. They were posted by Bundymania.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/shonuff66/img_6357e7kx.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/shonuff66/img_635659d1.jpg

So can my compressions (http://www.jab-tech.com/Dangerden-Silver-Compression-Fitting-1-2-to-3-4-pr-4218.html) fit on this waterblock?

[Camaroz06]

waiting for some temp #'s is killing me! :D

[zlojack]

I got mine this weekend...I think I might get it nickel plated since I don't have a loop to add it to at the moment while I wait for new gear to arrive :D

It's a heavy block! Very solid and nice construction. I got the backplate for it as well.

Sorry for the less than stellar pics, but the lighting wasn't great...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/DSC02430.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/DSC02431.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/DSC02432.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/DSC02433.jpg

[inonefly]

whats the material used on the HK 3.0 LT? can you nickel plate it?

[faster3200]

whats the material used on the HK 3.0 LT? can you nickel plate it?

LT uses Delrin, so no... you can't nickel plate it.

Also... I am begging for some temp numbers. Even really sketchy ones, I am curious to see how it compares to other blocks in a high flow setup.

[Mech0z]

LT uses Delrin, so no... you can't nickel plate it.

Also... I am begging for some temp numbers. Even really sketchy ones, I am curious to see how it compares to other blocks in a high flow setup.

skinnee has it in his roundup he is making, but I think thats still a week or more away.

[Vapor]

skinnee has it in his roundup he is making, but I think thats still a week or more away.My guess is multiple weeks away...if the quantity of blocks is any indication. Good testing takes time :yepp:

[inonefly]

LT uses Delrin, so no... you can't nickel plate it.

Also... I am begging for some temp numbers. Even really sketchy ones, I am curious to see how it compares to other blocks in a high flow setup.

thanks, guess i'll have to get the CU version then :) cant wait to see some more testing #s, gonna buy one at the end of this month.

[DarkCow]

Pics of the inside?

[mattgmann]

could someone open one of these up so we can see what the internals look like?

Thankee

[tonyluu]

If there are any left :P
I ordered mine friday night & should be getting it tomorrow since sidewinder is so close to my home

There are already pictures of the fin design, use google to find them.

[BlueAqua]

Some internal shots in this link:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cooling-masters.com%2Fnews-899-l-interieur-du-waterblock-heatkiller-rev3-devoile.html&sl=fr&tl=en&history_state0=

[Camaroz06]

To those that have them and have seen the inside what is your gut feeing on these? Better then a koolance 350?

[bigKr33]

Man I'm really thinking of buying this block now. Even if it doesn't fit 16mm compression fittings. I may just go with 1/2" barbs with 7/16 tubing.

I could've sworn I've seen some temps for this block. I'm pretty sure it did better than the koolance 350 block. I can't support this for sure, but just the other day I was reading a forum and it was comparing the koolance 350, heatkiller 3.0, ek supreme lt, and d-tek v2. I'll see if I can find it.

Yep found it, http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219081&highlight=hondacity

[Broken]

Certainly much better looking than those FUGLY Koolance blocks.

[bundymania]

the best block ya can get atm !

http://www.abload.de/img/img_6190qf8o.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_6193piiw.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_6201ph49.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_6210cklz.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_6211nhcj.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_6233kmn5.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_57414n2a.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_57518iq1.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_5892zhe6.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_55333e1i.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_5543lm8c.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_55522d6u.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_5562rll6.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_5582llla.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_66431kiu.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_66912nxh.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/img_66995myl.jpg

[BlueAqua]

Damn! That nickel plated block looks very good. Great pictures Bundymania.

[bundymania]

yeah and check the last picture with special version of the logo plate - only available direct at watercool.de , because you have to mount the block vertically at gigabyte S1366 Boards.

http://www.abload.de/img/cpu-wasser2zrfv.jpg

http://www.overclockingstation.de/showthread.php?t=3514

[Hondacity]

i wonder how the mounting mechanism works...that stud in between the mobo and waterblock seem i dunno...:confused:

[bundymania]

..to bring light in the darkness -> here is the manual :D

http://www.watercool.de/_uploads/File/MA_HK30_A5_(GER).pdf

[BringerOdeath]

Man, I really can't decide now, Suprem LT, K-350, HK 3.0........:(

[bundymania]

if the race starts between those 3 little fellas, i personally would prefer the Heatkiller 3.0...the CU Version of course and than you have to nickel plate it asap :)

http://www.abload.de/img/img_6816cws3.jpg

[zlojack]

the best block ya can get atm !



Hey Bundymania, I know there's a sort of treatment on the copper top to keep it shiny. Did you have to remove that before doing the nickel plating?

[bundymania]

yep, the company where the block was nickel plated did that job for me

[zlojack]

yep, the company where the block was nickel plated did that job for me

That's what I wanted to know. Thanks!

I've got a place here that will do it...so I guess I'll go see them for a quote.:up:

[xguntherc]

no one has any results yet??? I want one.

[faster3200]

Man, I really can't decide now, Suprem LT, K-350, HK 3.0........:(

Well, if Bundy's results are confirmed by others the HK will pretty much take be your only real choice. Better cooling AND better flow... that is nuts.

I am curious what the results will be on a higher flow/pressure system though.

[Eddie3dfx]

the best block ya can get atm !

http://www.abload.de/img/img_66912nxh.jpg



Hmm... I'd love to do a makeshift capscrew mount like this for my ek supreme.
Any ideas guys?

Looks like it's a cap screw, spring, with some type of threaded rod... not sure whats behind there or he uses a backplate.

[Hondacity]

i'll be testing this block this coming weekend ...i'll be curious how it performs against the k350 and the supremes...

[shazza]

Can't wait for your testing, Hondacity.

I received a Koolance 350 last week ... I was just a bit underwhelmed by the finish on this block - on the top plate, in particular. Picky, I know :p:

[bundymania]

Test against the Koolance :

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/showthread.php?t=590183&highlight=koolance

@faster3200: don´t care about more flow, it takes no effect, if ya got 150 liters/h (like me) or 200 liter ....or even more !

http://www.dexgo.com/index.php?site=artikel/view.php&id=314&rubrik=Hardware&seite=18

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Test against the Koolance :

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/showthread.php?t=590183&highlight=koolance

@faster3200: don´t care about more flow, it takes no effect, if ya got 150 liters/h (like me) or 200 liter ....or even more !

http://www.dexgo.com/index.php?site=artikel/view.php&id=314&rubrik=Hardware&seite=18

wow, it really is a heat killer (sorry but someone had to say it :D)

[Vapor]

@faster3200: don´t care about more flow, it takes no effect, if ya got 150 liters/h (like me) or 200 liter ....or even more !

http://www.dexgo.com/index.php?site=artikel/view.php&id=314&rubrik=Hardware&seite=18Just because the graph doesn't go past 210l/h doesn't mean there's no effect :rolleyes:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219842

Typical gain with a Fuzion V2 when going above .7GPM is in the neighborhood of 1.5-2C....and it does seem to keep scaling past what I tested.

Contrary to what you're saying, added flow can (and often does) do something (and this is on the Fuzion V2, a block purported to be flow-agnostic).

Take a look at the GTZ graph in the link you provided....notice the sharp decline in temps as the flowrate increases? What if you continue to increase flow past what was tested (e.g., to a flowrate most USA WCers would run, like 2x+ that)? :stick:

In the same link, the Supreme and the Ybris A.C.S. also have pretty aggressive scaling with flow. Clearly flow is helping a lot more than "nothing" :eh:

[Martinm210]

Are you guys done....YET???


I'm waiting for results here. Now quite yer clickety clickety, and start benching ASAP!...

Just kidding...:p:

The block looks like good supreme competition, and I've always had a soft spot for all metal/copper construction. That's one thing I really liked about the Stinger V8 and Enzotech blocks. Delrin/acetal works, but there's just something about an all metal block that spews durability/quality/I mean business.

We just need some high flow dedicated loop DDC with top or D5 performance type of testing....

Carry on with the goodnes..:up:
Take it easy and have fun, and looking forward to some more results..:up:

[Martinm210]

You're retired, you'll just have to wait like the rest of um:D

Just kidding, trying to clear out enough time to test it now, and it is built like a tank.

andyc

Nice pump setup...I like it!!

I had to do it and damn if felt good..:rofl:

Back to my easy chair...would you mind handing me the remote?...:D

[skinnee]

:sofa:

[faster3200]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/image.php?u=74718&dateline=1220123248http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/785_whipping.gif

This thread ^^^

[DeanB]

Mind sending me a picture or two of the problems?


Can't wait for your testing, Hondacity.

I received a Koolance 350 last week ... I was just a bit underwhelmed by the finish on this block - on the top plate, in particular. Picky, I know :p:

[inonefly]

yep, the company where the block was nickel plated did that job for me

Hi bundymania, do u know how/what they did to remove the copper treatment before nickel plating? I'll have to check it with my local nickel plate shop see if they can do that. too bad i cant buy it directly from watercool.de :(

[generics_user]

afaik it's just a clear layer of paint, but the easiest way to know for sure is to drop an e-mail to watercool.de

most of the time they reply within a few hours :up:

[faster3200]

Hi bundymania, do u know how/what they did to remove the copper treatment before nickel plating? I'll have to check it with my local nickel plate shop see if they can do that. too bad i cant buy it directly from watercool.de :(
If you find out can you post here? After seeing that I am pretty sure more than a few people will be interested in nickel plating.

[Camaroz06]

Every time someone posts something new and the thread moves to the top I get all excited looking for some #'s. Nice to see it is on a bench now! This thread is like crack.

[lazy]

wow that pump set-up is awesome mcoffey, what is the gain in using it like that>?

[Metric]

the best block ya can get atm !
Nice nickel plating :up:

I plan on doing the same thing this summer, but in black chrome :D

[003]

When is sidewinder going to get the GPU heatkillers???

Also what happened to the real silver plated bitspower fittings?! Now all there seems to be is this stupid "shining silver" which is not actually real silver at all...

[generics_user]

Considerable,

I'm using it on a i7 bench rig with KL350 block, and 2 gtx 295's with DD blocks. All the flow you need and plenty more. I really like those pump set ups, and I'll be replacing the ones in my rad box with them.

Very strong flow rate, and I can't get over how tuff they look. Pumps can probably run 5 years like that with the EL v2 tops.

Anyways, still haven't gotten around to swapping out the KL 350 with the HK3. Been having to much fun benching the dual GTX 295's.:yepp:

andyc

well there are alot of people with dual 295s but no one with your testing experience and both waterblocks

just think about it :p:

[Taylor01]

I don't know if you guys know this yet or not but www.performance-pcs.com has them and the GPU blocks and rads.!

96254
96255
96256
96257
96258

[msimax]

i ordered 2 4870x2 blocks last nite to go on my chiller:hehe:

[Camaroz06]

I've always liked tubed rads for some reason, and this is the first one that's designed well enough to suit my needs. At least appears so, so I ordered me one of those bad boys:) Should kick some serious ass on the MC bench:up:

thanks for the heads up,

andyc

How would I even try to integrate this into my case? I sorta want it...Guess it would have to piggyback (really piggyside)

[Sparda]

How would I even try to integrate this into my case? I sorta want it...Guess it would have to piggyback (really piggyside)

You´re right more like piggyside depend on your taste. I used to use that radiator before with socket 939. It can run passively with stock x2 3800 + nb + older generation of GC.
On oc system it need some fans or just put single huge fans othwerwise it get warmer passively and the temperature increase rapidly. It has dense fins desity though.

[generics_user]

How would I even try to integrate this into my case? I sorta want it...Guess it would have to piggyback (really piggyside)

actually it's supposed to be mounted on the side :D

maybe a MM pedestal on top of a MM case can give this rad a home :D

[Taylor01]

actually it's supposed to be mounted on the side :D

maybe a MM pedestal on top of a MM case can give this rad a home :D

Or on the top of a Lian Li PC-343B

96272

[Waterlogged]

To anyone that purchases the MO-RA2, enjoy your 78 feet of 6mm I.D. copper tubing. ;) :p:

[generics_user]

To anyone that purchases the MO-RA2, enjoy your 78 feet of 6mm I.D. copper tubing. ;) :p:

it's 3x parallel and not much more restrictive than 3 normal rads in series so total id is 18mm :up:

[Waterlogged]

it's 3x parallel and not much more restrictive than 3 normal rads in series so total id is 18mm :up:

I realize that it's 3x parallel, that doesn't matter. It's still 78 total feet of tubing the water has to slug through....and I haven't even mentioned the 60 180º bends yet...hmm, just did. ;) I think the reason these rads "aren't restrictive" is because no ones properly flow tested them yet. Most of the Euros that use this rad love low flow and run their pumps @ anything but full pressure and even when they do, it's not a very high pressure type pump.

[Mabyboi]

Absolutely beautiful blocks, does anyone know if their GPU block for the gtx 260 will fit the 55nm version? or if they will be making one?

[BringerOdeath]

If I but the copper version of the heatkiller, can anyone have it nickel plated for me? If so I would get the normal one and how much would it cost? I will send it to whomever can have it done for me cheapest LOL!!

[nebuchanezzar]

Are you guys done....YET???


I'm waiting for results here. Now quite yer clickety clickety, and start benching ASAP!...

Just kidding...:p:

The block looks like good supreme competition, and I've always had a soft spot for all metal/copper construction. That's one thing I really liked about the Stinger V8 and Enzotech blocks. Delrin/acetal works, but there's just something about an all metal block that spews durability/quality/I mean business.

We just need some high flow dedicated loop DDC with top or D5 performance type of testing....

Carry on with the goodnes..:up:
Take it easy and have fun, and looking forward to some more results..:up:

I have mine setup finally. Still looking forward to a test with a "real" flowrate :rofl:. Very impressed with it though. My first glance I didn't think the bottom was in the greatest of condition but it's fine. It's not lapped mirror smooth like some blocks though so there may even be room for some improvement with a lapping job. I'm too lazy to do it myself but I expect to see some other posting mirror shine blocks eventually :up:

[NaeKuh]

yeah and check the last picture with special version of the logo plate - only available direct at watercool.de , because you have to mount the block vertically at gigabyte S1366 Boards.

http://www.abload.de/img/cpu-wasser2zrfv.jpg

http://www.overclockingstation.de/showthread.php?t=3514

http://www.abload.de/img/img_60489tbg.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/img_60670la3.jpg

WTF did the TESTER throw his NB and MOSFET ON THE BED WHILE TESTING?!?!?!

Sorry to say i dont really trust you guys nor have faith in your methodology when it comes to testing.
Wheres the Ambients? Wheres the Air Delta in and Air delta out? Where is YOUR COOLANT TEMPS?

Dude we dont even have a Flow chart, sorry but please dont post up BS tests like this one this forum.

Your block is inconclusive as of this moment until we get real numbers, and your gonna confuse the noobs.

Andy hurry and throw it on your bed. I want to see some numbers on this block.

[Taylor01]

Yes me too!

[Martinm210]

I'm holding out for McCoffee or Skinnee's results, I love my Supreme too much and it's going to take some logged temp results posted before I'm changing out blocks.

[NaeKuh]

actually skinnee got his i7 setup, i think he's gonna start testing very soon on them.

Oh crap that reminds me i need to send him my RD-30 so he can test these blocks with variable pressure and flow.

[Vapor]

I'm holding out for McCoffee or Skinnee's resultsGot something against me? :p: :lol:

jk....I'm waiting for their results too....it'll be quite some time before I get to the HK vs. EK vs. KL350, etc :)

[skinnee]

Yeah, I had a 775 mishap. :shakes: DFI p35 board went to the silicon and copper graveyard last night when I was changing mounts. So, 775 has been put on hold until I can get a new board.

Good news is the i7 testing moves to the forefront and I can finally get cracking. Have some pressure drop tests to complete and then its full bore. I should be going full tilt by this weekend if all goes according to plan. mcoffey and vapor...we'll be in touch like normal I'm sure. :up:

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Yeah, I had a 775 mishap. :shakes: DFI p35 board went to the silicon and copper graveyard last night when I was changing mounts. So, 775 has been put on hold until I can get a new board.

Good news is the i7 testing moves to the forefront and I can finally get cracking. Have some pressure drop tests to complete and then its full bore. I should be going full tilt by this weekend if all goes according to plan. mcoffey and vapor...we'll be in touch like normal I'm sure. :up:

do you need a donation? I have a wonderful x38 t2r sitting in my basement. I was planning on putting it to crunching but not till summer and its looking like I will be on a new platform by that point anyway.

[Waterlogged]

WTF did the TESTER throw his NB and MOSFET ON THE BED WHILE TESTING?!?!?!

Sorry to say i dont really trust you guys nor have faith in your methodology when it comes to testing.
Wheres the Ambients? Wheres the Air Delta in and Air delta out? Where is YOUR COOLANT TEMPS?

Dude we dont even have a Flow chart, sorry but please dont post up BS tests like this one this forum.

Your block is inconclusive as of this moment until we get real numbers, and your gonna confuse the noobs.

Andy hurry and throw it on your bed. I want to see some numbers on this block.

:rofl:

I see you found part of what caused my PM tirade with you the other night. ;)

[Hondacity]

+1

i like my koolance backplate for the tests....its thick and insulated :D

[zlojack]

HESmelaugh also has some results published for this block which show it as being a winner, though I'm sure you've all seen the results already.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=221243

[skinnee]

Alright, so for my testing do I pickup an HK LT or does it have to be an HK CU? The base is the same, the only difference is the copper top vs. Acetal (POM) top. :shrug:

Oh yeah, then there is the availability of a backplate. :rolleyes:

[Metric]

Alright, so for my testing do I pickup an HK LT or does it have to be an HK CU? The base is the same, the only difference is the copper top vs. Acetal (POM) top. :shrug:

Oh yeah, then there is the availability of a backplate. :rolleyes:

HK 3.0 = Doesn't matter if it's copper or POM top
HK 3.0 LT = Copper or POM top, but fewer channels than the regular HK

[zlojack]

HK 3.0 = Doesn't matter if it's copper or POM top
HK 3.0 LT = Copper or POM top, but fewer channels than the regular HK

That's not the way it is. There are three models of Heatkiller 3.0

The HK 3.0 CU and the HK 3.0 LT are identical except for copper vs. POM in the top.

The HK 3.0 LC is the one with the different base (less channels) and no midplate. Also no SS on the top of the block (all black)

[skinnee]

I think I'm gonna go with the POM top, one because I think the Copper top is ugly and I can add a Supreme LT to the mix by saving a few bucks.

[woffen]

I think I'm gonna go with the POM top, one because I think the Copper top is ugly and I can add a Supreme LT to the mix by saving a few bucks.

Sounds very good, will be interesting to see if the LT will be able to beat the Koolance 350 and Supreme LT. Can't believe you would notice much difference based on the tops.

[John Planet]

I think I'm gonna go with the POM top, one because I think the Copper top is ugly and I can add a Supreme LT to the mix by saving a few bucks.

Wow, I thought I was the only one who thought that the copper was a bit too much. :up:

[Taylor01]

Wow, I thought I was the only one who thought that the copper was a bit too much. :up:

No I agree also the cooper one is very tacky! now nickle would have been nice.

[BringerOdeath]

I want to order the LT HK today but Gary doesnt Have any back-plates left. Does any other backplate work with the HK??

[zlojack]

I want to order the LT HK today but Gary doesnt Have any back-plates left. Does any other backplate work with the HK??

Mcoffey is using the Koolance backplate with his.

[John Planet]

Yeah, but I'm using the one that comes with the KL 350, not sure if you can get that separately? And you'd need some 6/32 studs and thumb nuts to go along with it. I'm using 2" 6/32 machine screws for studs from Lowe's and thumb nuts from the KL.

andyc

At least I know there's another option. WC should have been thoughtful enough to simply tack on a few dollars to the selling price and included ALL needed mounting HW.

[BringerOdeath]

Thx, guys! If I get one of these, can I just use the backplate?? Koolance wants $18 for the backplate....
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thlgboreboxb.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ekwaekbacpu1.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swapforincoi.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/fuincoi7lprs.html
The EK one looks like the best bet since it bolts through without threaded holes....I have to choose one of these, I don't mind improvisation! I jimmy-rigged my Fuzion V2!:D

[NameTaken45]

how do the HK's compare to the GTZ's???? on 775s?

[ShoNuff]

I think I'm gonna go with the POM top, one because I think the Copper top is ugly and I can add a Supreme LT to the mix by saving a few bucks.

:shocked: that's blasphemous!!! I'm putting you on my ignore list and reporting this thread to have you banned! May you wake up to a house full of cats!

[ShoNuff]

Thx, guys! If I get one of these, can I just use the backplate?? Koolance wants $18 for the backplate....
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thlgboreboxb.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ekwaekbacpu1.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swapforincoi.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/fuincoi7lprs.html
The EK one looks like the best bet since it bolts through without threaded holes....I have to choose one of these, I don't mind improvisation! I jimmy-rigged my Fuzion V2!:D

I think the thread sizes are different. On the HK block it looks like it is a M4. Do you know what size is on the Thermalright?

That would be nice if it worked as I am also looking for a backplate.

[skinnee]

:shocked: that's blasphemous!!! I'm putting you on my ignore list and reporting this thread to have you banned! May you wake up to a house full of cats!

:rofl:

I like the look of copper too, but the symmetry and layout of that top is just not pleasing to my eye. The POM has more contrast and while I still think its ugly, I'd rather have the POM in my collection versus the copper top.

Now, if I were running a chiller...looks be damned, I want to extra mass of the copper top. Thats what you need ShoNuff...a chiller. :stick:

[kpablo]

My HK LT 3.0 arrived today! With a backplate! XD That one it was out of stock on normal page of Sidewindercomputer... but in their checkout page, at the bottom of the page in their recommended product part, it was a link for the backplate... even knowing it was out of stock i added to cart... and i don´t know how but they sent me one! XD No.. is not the 775 backplate... I bought the EK Top for D5 too... this thing is damm huge!

Also... they lowered the cost in the printed receipt so even i did not had to pay a tax for international arrives! Definetely ill be going to do more bussines with Gary!

[beast200]

Hi

have may heatkiller Lt now installed
very good temps
i think first decent block for the i7

[Camaroz06]

Hi

have may heatkiller Lt now installed
very good temps
i think first decent block for the i7

What temps are you seeing at what voltage? Also which of the two radiators do you have on the CPU block?

Thanks,
Eddie

[Mech0z]

Anyone seen flow test of the LC vs LT? Just wonder if the LT is much more restrictive as I will probobly use a XSPC Duel bay pump and therefore have some limited flow, and if its alot more restrictive, the performance gain the LT have over the LC might vanish due to lower flow.

[BringerOdeath]

I would still go with the LT, I have almost the same flow as when I had a Fuzion V2. There won't be any gain from getting the LC over th LT....

[shoek]

Does anyone else besides Sidewinder carry the HK CU or HK LT in the US? Any idea when he'll get more stock?

[Waterlogged]

Does anyone else besides Sidewinder carry the HK CU or HK LT in the US? Any idea when he'll get more stock?

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?manufacturers_id=174&main_page=index

[b@llz0r]

Gary is about to get a new delivery of gear from watercool, im sure if you contact him, he can add whatever you want to the order :up: