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varrius
02-08-2009, 06:54 PM
I was hoping someone could help me out.

My setup:

Core i7 965 at 4.0ghz. 160x25 HT disabled. ( Coolermaster V8 )
Asus Rampage II Extreme
6GB Corsair 1866 running at 1604 9-9-9-24.
Two 4870x2s at stock clock.
Two Velociraptor 300GB HDDs.
Ultra X3 1600 watt PSU.

Whenever I run 3dmark Vantage (advanced edition), I am getting low scores. 19994 in my last run.

CPU Score: 15407
GPU Score: 22196


I think my problem lies here: In windows, under system, it's saying my processor is at 3.84 ghz. Everest and CPU-Z, however, claim it's at the frequency I set it at 4ghz.

I am wondering if this is a windows error or if for some reason my CPU is throttling?

Any input would be appreciated.

posershadow
02-08-2009, 07:26 PM
I'm getting the same exact thing as you. I thought I was alone on this problem, I've reinstalled Vista probably 30 times, with every combination of drivers and tweaks I could think of. At first I thought it was another program that was causing it, but then after doing all these fresh installations, I started realizing, I had nothing else installed to break it. I'd install vista, update it fully, trying both 9.1 and 8.12 drivers with hotfix and then install vantage and run it. My vista also shows stock speeds under the properties, 2.67ghz when I'm really at 4.2ghz. I'm on Vista x64 ultimate. My gpu scores are fine, its my cpu score that is a couple thousand off everytime. There must be something that is throttling the cpu to slow it down. I've got basically the same setup as you, a 920, R2E, 2x4870s, 6gb ocz 1866, 2x300gb velociraptors, and a hx1000 psu.

posershadow
02-08-2009, 07:43 PM
Yeah, thinking about it now, with my old e8500 at 4.25ghz, vista used to report it as that. But now, vista is reporting the 920 at stock speed, so maybe vantage is only using 2.67ghz instead of realizing it has 4.2ghz to use.

varrius
02-08-2009, 08:04 PM
I think it may be an underlying problem with the Core i7. Similar to how the memory, when using 6gbs of modules, doesnt show. I've reinstalled using raid and non raid many times. It doesn't fix.

zanzabar
02-08-2009, 08:09 PM
u clanged the name of the vantage exe so the CCC dosnt throttle the gpus right

varrius
02-08-2009, 08:12 PM
u clanged the name of the vantage exe so the CCC dosnt throttle the gpus right

Uhm, what?

posershadow
02-08-2009, 08:15 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure that is the issue. I don't even touch file names. I install vista, install updates, install drivers for chipset and gpus, and then vantage. After that I bench vantage, no changes internally to anything at all. Funny part is, superpi 32m works just fine and performs as fast as expected. So its something tied in to vantage that is slowing us down.

zanzabar
02-08-2009, 08:20 PM
Uhm, what?

since 8.8 or so, catalysis control center will throttle some benchamrk and stress test apps, like 3dmark, furmark or occt. so u need to change the name of benchmarks

posershadow
02-08-2009, 08:55 PM
So what do we need to do in order to fix this? Any name will work?

zanzabar
02-08-2009, 09:02 PM
change the name of the vantage exe to f.exe or cpubench.exe or whatever u want then run it

posershadow
02-08-2009, 09:08 PM
That didn't seem to do it. It's not the gpu that is throttling, it's fine on that side, scores are normal. It's the cpu tests that are throttled back. I'm not sure catalyst has anything to do with the cpu tests as it's not using the gpu's anymore.

varrius
02-08-2009, 09:16 PM
My main concern is why windows is reading the CPU clock lower than it's supposedly at.

posershadow
02-08-2009, 09:29 PM
I haven't seen any other threads about this so far, maybe it's something related to just our R2E boards, bios issue or something of that nature.

varrius
02-08-2009, 09:37 PM
I found a somewhat recent thread.

http://forums.overclockersclub.com/index.php?showtopic=161023&st=0

posershadow
02-09-2009, 11:05 AM
Any updates on fixes?

varrius
02-09-2009, 12:10 PM
No, I am only getting a 15 - 16,000 in vantage for CPU score. About 22000 overall.

varrius
02-09-2009, 12:51 PM
I figured out the issue with 3dmark Vantage. It was stupid, really.

The reason our scores (well, atleast mine) aren't as high as some other forum members, is because: the second CPU test is based on physics. 70% of the score is derived from physics. The people getting these insanely high CPU scores have an nvidia card acting as a PhysX processor.

Or, they just have nvidia cards.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-physx-ati,5764.html

" On his first run, Eran got a 22,606 CPU score in 3D Mark Vantage, enhancing the overall score to P4262. A comparable system without PhysX-support will cross the finish line at about P3800. "

NBF
02-09-2009, 01:15 PM
Enable HT for better CPU score ;)

zanzabar
02-10-2009, 12:25 AM
I figured out the issue with 3dmark Vantage. It was stupid, really.

The reason our scores (well, atleast mine) aren't as high as some other forum members, is because: the second CPU test is based on physics. 70% of the score is derived from physics. The people getting these insanely high CPU scores have an nvidia card acting as a PhysX processor.

Or, they just have nvidia cards.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-physx-ati,5764.html

" On his first run, Eran got a 22,606 CPU score in 3D Mark Vantage, enhancing the overall score to P4262. A comparable system without PhysX-support will cross the finish line at about P3800. "


if u use the physX api not on anything but the cpu its an invalid benchmark and shouldent be on the orb, and people shouldent be posting them ether