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benko
01-29-2009, 01:59 AM
so i will soon buy i7 rig.:up:

i will buy:
i7 920
corasir ddr3 3x2 gb 1600mhz
corsair 620hx psu
x58 mbo,i think i wil get p6t deluxe(i need oc potencial, good raid support and stabilty, and i dont care about bundle)
2x500gb seagate 7200.12 (single platter)
cosmos 1000 case
cooler master v10 cooler

so will this psu handle all this(i7 will be overclocked to max)
what mbo to get for 220bclk??

will ddr3 corsair fit with v10??

zanzabar
01-29-2009, 02:32 AM
dfi UT or foxconn bloodrage

benko
01-29-2009, 02:42 AM
foxcoon has only 3 ram slots, and i have heard it has stabilty problems(even at stock frequnecies).

Paxi
01-29-2009, 03:20 AM
Stability Problems? Never heard of that so far... And why do you need more than 3 Slots = 6 GB Ram?
Well i would go for the Bloodrage (if you can get it^^) or DFI UT/DK

dan7777
01-29-2009, 03:35 AM
+1 for...gigabyte EX58-UD5

belmontrich
01-29-2009, 03:48 AM
ASUS p6t deluxe
gigabyte EX58-UD5

i'd say i'll go for this one...

naokaji
01-29-2009, 05:46 AM
Happy UD5 owner here, only got it since the bloodrage and Dfi where not avalaible back then, but I think I'm just going to stick to it until something really new comes out.
Can't really go wrong with the UD5, relatively cheap, has everything you could want, wc blocks are avalaible (in case you would want them), as for oc it doesn't really matter, the cpu will max out before the board anyway.

Slovnaft
01-29-2009, 06:05 AM
DFI UT or evga.
with core i7 the only two important things left to the board are cpu power supply and BIOS support.
Foxconn may have an excellent vreg circuit, but atm their bios support is questionable at best. DFI and evga are the best currently in both those areas.

@naokaji
at 5+ghz ~1.65v nehalem draws about 400W under full smt load. Most boards' vregs were not design to support that kind of sustained load, with a few clear exceptions. overdrawing can be dangerous to the cpu; when current draw exceeds an inductor's current saturation rating inductance drops %20.

benko
01-29-2009, 01:40 PM
DFI UT or evga.
with core i7 the only two important things left to the board are cpu power supply and BIOS support.
Foxconn may have an excellent vreg circuit, but atm their bios support is questionable at best. DFI and evga are the best currently in both those areas.

@naokaji
at 5+ghz ~1.65v nehalem draws about 400W under full smt load. Most boards' vregs were not design to support that kind of sustained load, with a few clear exceptions. overdrawing can be dangerous to the cpu; when current draw exceeds an inductor's current saturation rating inductance drops %20.
how is that possible when pcu chip is limmited @130w(for 920 AFAIK)


Happy UD5 owner here, only got it since the bloodrage and Dfi where not avalaible back then, but I think I'm just going to stick to it until something really new comes out.
Can't really go wrong with the UD5, relatively cheap, has everything you could want, wc blocks are avalaible (in case you would want them), as for oc it doesn't really matter, the cpu will max out before the board anyway.

are you sure it can handle 220bclk??

220x20=4400mhz some says it can push that far for benchmark.

veedubfreak
01-29-2009, 03:12 PM
Evga ftw. Running at 21x205 atm, hoping to push it farther as temps are still under control. I refuse to ever touch another DFI as their bios likes to corrupt way too easily.

Slovnaft
01-29-2009, 03:22 PM
*sigh* 130W is the cpu tdp at stock clocks and volts. increase frequency, increase voltage, increaases poewr draw.
srsly, RTFM.

570091D
01-29-2009, 03:42 PM
so will this psu handle all this(i7 will be overclocked to max)
what mbo to get for 220bclk??



well, it all depends on what video card you use, and how far your 920 will overclock. 220bclk has to do with the processor, but if the mobo has good vreg for the mem controller/qpi bus it can help things a bit (the IMC is what makes or breaks i7 overclocking). i voted for the DFI board because of it's awesome power delivery and unmatched bois support (evga will be king soon with the Classified, should you want to wait).

this article has some good notes for i7 overclocking: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3502

Bobsama
01-29-2009, 04:50 PM
how is that possible when pcu chip is limmited @130w(for 920 AFAIK)

That was not made mandatory by Intel at launch. Basically, anyone can just disable that, same thing with being able to use DDR3 1333+. The memory multipliers were changed from 2:6&2:8 to include support for 1333/1600/&c.

S_G
01-29-2009, 11:17 PM
XS is the DFI fan board. :D So, of course I voted for DFI, despite their poor support. Their boards are great and use a sort of seizure-inducing array of colors, what more do you want?!

breathemetal
01-29-2009, 11:20 PM
i voted evga since that's what im getting.

looks great
evga has a great warranty program
and it has good support

benko
01-30-2009, 12:56 AM
*sigh* 130W is the cpu tdp at stock clocks and volts. increase frequency, increase voltage, increaases poewr draw.
srsly, RTFM.
so there is no limit any more, AFAIK that was problem with oc-ing 920 cpu will dropp multy if he founds out that it uses more than 130w??


well, it all depends on what video card you use, and how far your 920 will overclock. 220bclk has to do with the processor, but if the mobo has good vreg for the mem controller/qpi bus it can help things a bit (the IMC is what makes or breaks i7 overclocking). i voted for the DFI board because of it's awesome power delivery and unmatched bois support (evga will be king soon with the Classified, should you want to wait).

this article has some good notes for i7 overclocking: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3502
i will read this article :)


That was not made mandatory by Intel at launch. Basically, anyone can just disable that, same thing with being able to use DDR3 1333+. The memory multipliers were changed from 2:6&2:8 to include support for 1333/1600/&c.

so no problmes with oc-ing memory it doesent depends so much of core freq??

i have heard that you cannot get 2000mhz ram when cpu(i7 920) is @stock??

zanzabar
01-30-2009, 01:13 AM
i voted evga since that's what im getting.

looks great
evga has a great warranty program
and it has good support

i thought that u were getting a dfi JR

and evga makes u pay an extra $20 upfront or u dont get rush or advanced rma

then IMO the evga is $50 to much for a basic board


and as for teh asus they dont work with turbo mode so why bother, the only boards that are good and $250-$300 for enthusiasts and overclocking are the bloodrage and dfi UT.

benko
01-30-2009, 01:34 AM
i am not sure for evga they had/have problems with raid, will use raid 0.

asus is in lead, and i really love that :)

Kondik
01-30-2009, 01:46 AM
RMAed 2x P6T asus one RIIE one UD5 , now I'm on eVGA X58 0 Issues so eVGA from me
asus gone downhill since the X48 series ; GB or eVGA

benko
01-30-2009, 01:54 AM
what was wrong with asus??
also you rma gigaybte what was wrong??

Kondik
01-30-2009, 01:58 AM
The 1st ASUS didn't even post
The 2nd ASUS was unstable for some reasons when the Memory modules were on XMP
The RIIE did post once then switched off forever

I'm such a lucky bastard

And the Gigabyte ? I couldn't fit in a sound card correctly while using two VGA cards.

So I returned it and took the eVGA and lived happily ever after

benko
01-30-2009, 02:23 AM
heh it really depends from user to user some says that is excelent some that is rubbish, i really dont know what to buy, but ASUS is known for their good mobos.

+ it is in lead :)

zanzabar
01-30-2009, 03:15 AM
no asus boards can use turbo mode, so that would remove it from consideration for me

naokaji
01-30-2009, 03:19 AM
are you sure it can handle 220bclk??

220x20=4400mhz some says it can push that far for benchmark.

Yes or no, depends on your cpu.
Oc abilities vary greatly from I7 to I7, have a look here (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3502) at the anand article about it, the cpu will be the limit and your mileage may vary greatly.

RPGWiZaRD
01-30-2009, 03:39 AM
+1 Gigabyte

Hornet331
01-30-2009, 03:42 AM
Imho gigayte did a good job this round, beside the usual higher then others load vdroop the EX58 boards are solid boards, better then asus this time.

Blacky
01-30-2009, 06:59 AM
DFI so far is the best X58 board for OCing :up:

benko
01-30-2009, 12:15 PM
Imho gigayte did a good job this round, beside the usual higher then others load vdroop the EX58 boards are solid boards, better then asus this time.
yeah mine p35-ds3r has bigggg vdrop, so ud5 has no problems with it??

YukonTrooper
01-30-2009, 03:46 PM
no asus boards can use turbo mode, so that would remove it from consideration for me
They can't? That's amazingly weak-sauce! Why would any overclocker who's going for a 920/940 even consider an Asus X58 board? :confused:

Anyways, Gigabyte gets my vote. Over the last three years, they've been pushing out some really good hardware. Plus, they have a nice X58 lineup to choose from.

benko
01-31-2009, 06:29 AM
no asus boards can use turbo mode, so that would remove it from consideration for me
are you 100% sure???

will then be bios update???

570091D
01-31-2009, 03:47 PM
they already have 4 boards out, and we're two months out from the product release, if it hasn't happened by now i wouldn't waist time hoping....

Ming@s
01-31-2009, 03:50 PM
gigabyte EX58-UD5

benko
02-01-2009, 03:45 AM
they already have 4 boards out, and we're two months out from the product release, if it hasn't happened by now i wouldn't waist time hoping....
who, ASUS??

pH(x)
02-01-2009, 01:05 PM
If you need OC potential not super ultra overclocking options go with the Gigabyte UD5, else go with the DFI Bloodrage (???) X58 board.

benko
02-02-2009, 06:52 AM
i think i will stick to asus,only if it cannot use turbo mode than i will go to gigabyte.

maybe p6t deluxe v2 supports turbo mod ar maybe there is a bios that fixes that???

SNiiPE_DoGG
02-02-2009, 07:02 AM
why would you get an asus board, they are DOGS so poor compared to the EVGA of the DFI.....


and for anyone who says DFI has bad support, if you call them up and talk to them they are great, I got a cross ship RMA very easily this way a few months ago :up:

benko
02-02-2009, 08:37 AM
maybe i will go for dfi but they have boot problems if you have more hdds AFAIK.


but is it true that turbo mod doesent work on asus?

SNiiPE_DoGG
02-02-2009, 08:44 AM
maybe i will go for dfi but they have boot problems if you have more hdds AFAIK.


but is it true that turbo mod doesent work on asus?

It has very glitchy operation, not to mention that most asus cant go over 200 BCLK... there is just no reason to buy asus, they are crap compared to what you can get for less money (dfi is cheaper no?)

ap4lifetn
02-02-2009, 08:47 AM
Turbo on my ASUS P6T deluxe works fine for me, highest i've gotten stable on my chip so far is 215BCLK, but that requires an insane vCore, I can run 24/7 200BCLK *21 multi on 1.38v with my TRUE

GB has terrible vdroop

loonym
02-02-2009, 09:07 AM
are you 100% sure???

will then be bios update???Of course the asus can use turbo mode. Cracks me up some of the stuff zanzabar spews out to try and cram dfi down people's throats. :rofl:

benko
02-02-2009, 02:19 PM
they said that there is no vdroop any more on GB x58!?!?, yeah before on p35/45 it was huge.

benko
02-03-2009, 08:23 AM
has gigabyte solved vdroop problem with x58 chipset??

also how far can gigabyte ud5p go with bclk??

benko
02-06-2009, 06:20 AM
will 620w handle this rig??

YukonTrooper
02-06-2009, 10:33 AM
will 620w handle this rig??
Yes.

benko
02-07-2009, 10:12 AM
good to hear :)

anybodys else opinion about mobos??

ReverendMaynard
02-07-2009, 10:17 AM
yeah....find a good cpu and any mobo will give you the same results.

benko
02-08-2009, 02:42 AM
i hope i will get new stepening,are theay already out??

Benji Tshi
02-08-2009, 02:43 AM
P6T WS Pro FTW

Looks pretty good, good performances, good layout and all you need and more...

benko
02-08-2009, 02:51 AM
i will not build sever only difference between deluxe and this is some server features

Benji Tshi
02-08-2009, 03:17 AM
And Spi 32M time...but if you don't care about this, i understand ;)

downforce
02-08-2009, 03:41 AM
What board would you recommend for stability over performance?

benko
02-08-2009, 05:16 AM
i think asus will be your option

Loque
02-08-2009, 11:05 AM
damm this thread confused me even more, now I'm not sure what to get for a i7 965 chip I got here ..

benko
02-08-2009, 01:07 PM
probably all mobos are good,but whuch is the best??

acording to poll ASUS :D

YukonTrooper
02-08-2009, 01:19 PM
The ASUS being the most popular doesn't make it the best.

benko
02-09-2009, 01:17 AM
my second option will be than gigabyte i think they are ok,but not sure how much bclk can go??(talking abput ud5p)

benko
02-11-2009, 01:40 AM
does every motherborad has ram&uncore multiplers??

benko
02-25-2009, 02:54 AM
what about new Foxconn Renaissance X58??

it has 6ram slots :)