DFI X58 vs Bloodrage which is a better buy?

[Greenfox]

I'm planning building a i7 core platform and DFI UT X58 and Foxconn bloodrage brought my attention since both look awsome and they are at the same price which one you guys think is worth buying??

[zanzabar]

i would go blood rage if u can get it

[Thumbs Up]

Blood rage:up:

[Klarko]

any reason besides colors? :P

[zanzabar]

boodrage has 3 phase digital ram power and its got more phases on the cpu of digital, then its also foxconn so they update the bios alot more frequently than dfi

[Ozzfest05]

Bloodrage because it looks hot we got support on this forum from great people for the product 3 ram slots kicks @ss but performance wise its a close call between the two most x58 boards are close in performance

[elpibe10]

Blood Rage for me too :up:

[tiro_uspsss]

bloodrage :yepp: :up:
u have foxconn employees at this very forum, very friendly, very helpful, very supportive - what more could u want! :)

[systemviper]

BloodRage, I just ordered mine! Actually 2 :up:

[dengyong]

bloodrage :yepp: :up:
u have foxconn employees at this very forum, very friendly, very helpful, very supportive - what more could u want! :)

+1 I'll have mine tuesday. 91553

[Greenfox]

So far bloodrage it is but DFI still bringing my attention somehow, andre yang got a nice review, clocks memory very well has zero vdroop it has good placement of pcies for tri-sli, it has a good BCLK too, cons well the support and bios releases, BR is hot,it has good support, bad placement of pcie's and 3 memory slots :/ (for upgrades on future)! decisions decisions, but BR seems to be winning the battle keep suggestions coming !

[eva2000]

DFI UT X58-T3EH8 has my vote - 2 more SATA ports, 3 more dimm slots :)

Prime95 with TRUE120 air - room temp 29-30C

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_UT_X58_T3EH8/results/true120/920_3836a756_1/corsair/2133c9df_2gb/hton/19x/201_1004_99924_1.25_1.68_1.44/prime95_load_nbfancooled.png

[Praz]

At this point I would say the choice would come down to a person's brand preference.

[Greenfox]

nice eva2000 :D tho the audio card is any good?

[DavidNJ]

Let me chime in with a few Blood Rage negatives:

1) Only 3 memory slots. My system regularly uses over 6 GB. Right now the system is limited to 6GB.

2) Rather odd looking NB watercooling. Really few options here and none for watercooling the power modules. I would expect there never to be a 3rd party watercooling solution unless a generic one fit.

3) BIOS fixes and support will probably be minimal because of the small installed base. This isn't going to be a big seller.

4) Unusual hybrid buck converter. Only implementation of this design and its effectiveness is unknown.


There are some positives not mentioned though:

1) On board voltage measuring points...the first time I've seen that.

2) Creative Sonar X-Fi audio card. No optical port though.

3) Serial attached SCSI port. However, at $1-1.50/GB is high compared to the $10-15¢/GB in SATA drives.

3)

[Dentlord]

No tri-sli on bloodrage = fail.
What the heck is with the pcie x16 layout??

[The Nemesis]

DFI gets my vote :)

[Riggs]

People might think I'm weird, but I like dfi's color more than the bloodrage. :D

[zanzabar]

There are some positives not mentioned though:

1) On board voltage measuring points...the first time I've seen that.

2) Creative Sonar X-Fi audio card. No optical port though.

3) Serial attached SCSI port. However, at $1-1.50/GB is high compared to the $10-15¢/GB in SATA drives.

3)

1) the on board measuring are ont he dfi too
2) the xfi is a realtec with xfi codecs same with all of the xfi cards like that
3) sas is awesome


No tri-sli on bloodrage = fail.
What the heck is with the pcie x16 layout??

why do u need tri card the 2 card quad is out soon

all of that said i would still go blood rage since it should clock better but the dfi is also good. i would suggest the dfi if u arnt going for benching though and if u wanted it for general but i think that the blood rage will clock a little better and it has socket 775 mounting

and for the ram arguement there will be 4GB sticks out in q3 with 1333/1600mhz and the i7 as of now has way more ram bandwidth than it knows what to do with so by the time more than 6GB is needed u will have the 12GB tri channel kit

[Greenfox]

some people don't see quad-sli as option since 3-sli has better support on drivers and better scaling I think.

[Thumbs Up]

Whats up with this quad/tri SLI, there's seriously no point. You can get the job done with one video card, and maybe get another video card for two-card SLI but that's reasonable.

Quad and tri SLI is just a money waster in my opinion.

[eva2000]

don't think it matters much once GTX 295 cards come out - all you'd need is one or two cards... BUT more PCI-E slots for pci-e raid controllers would be useful - hence i like DFI UT X48-T3RS and UT X58-T3EH8 as both have same PCI-E slot arrangment which allows me to use a x8 PCI-E raid controller as well :)

[Dentlord]

Whats up with this quad/tri SLI, there's seriously no point. You can get the job done with one video card, and maybe get another video card for two-card SLI but that's reasonable.

Quad and tri SLI is just a money waster in my opinion.

Well in that case, whats up with dual and quad core cpu's?? I mean you can get things done with only one core...

[tiro_uspsss]

Well in that case, whats up with dual and quad core cpu's?? I mean you can get things done with only one core...

lol - dumbest comparison ever: cpu != gpu :fact:

[Dentlord]

lol - dumbest comparison ever: cpu != gpu :fact:


LOL well at least I rank #1 at something :D

Seriously though, of course you can play games and such with one gpu, but try playing crysis or warhead very high/enthusiast 8xaa with one, then two, then three cards. Then tell us what is needed for future games that will only get more and more gpu intensive.

[tiro_uspsss]

LOL well at least I rank #1 at something :D


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: :up:

[Blacky]

both are great mobo's :) tho I don't know how good are the bernstein audio card that DFI provides vs the Sonar card of BR, anyone knows if the DFI sound card bundle is good?

[Greenfox]

both are great mobo's :) tho I don't know how good are the bernstein audio card that DFI provides vs the Sonar card of BR, anyone knows if the DFI sound card bundle is good?

I would like to know the sound quality of berntein audio too! also is DFI a reliable mobo maker? in terms of very polished bios and performance of their boards, I never had the opportunity of having one...

[The Nemesis]

DFI is a very reliable enthusiast board. Typically over at the DFI support forums there will be post of bios configurations with various clocks from stock to overclocked as well as benchmarked screenshots. They ususally work with Tony from OCZ and use OCZ memory on their tests which makes buying decisions for ram and gfx a little easier . I wanted to pair my system with OCZ memory because of this but couldn't get a response from a PM I sent (hint hint), but this didn't discourage me from buying. I still own My DFI P35 LT/ E8400/ OCZ 9200 Reaper as well as DFI nforce 4 Ultra-D sli mod/ Opteron 165/ Opteron 146/ Corsair 3200XL TCCD. Overclocking both systems was made easy by DFI Club forum and then DFI Streets forum. There's also Tmod/Logan's DFI Bios Flash & Utilities DVD (http://www.csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1525) which I have always used.


DFI still gets my vote

[DistortioniZm]

Both are great boards for the niche they are vying to fill. Flip a coin. DFI is my choice for reasons explained by others in this thread. :up:

[Crankyhobo]

* I don't see the lack of 3-way SLI a problem. 2-way of the latest hotness watercooled and heavily overclocked is more than enough.
* The 6gb/12gb limit on ram is fine for 99% of people. Who really needs more than 12gb? you have to try hard to fill even 4gb up in practice.

And i also think you're wrong about popularity, more people care about looks than you would believe and its a good looking board. It has been sold out very quickly on the egg every time it's in stock and lots of people are talking about it on this board and so will see threads on settings like other boards.

Also, I would gut a hobo for a set of waterblocks for this board!

[IronWarrior]

I think both of them suck, both of them have bad PCI-E slot placement, however good it works or how well it is stable, if the PCI-E slot placement sucks, it all sucks.

[RealTelstar]

These two are among the boards i'm considering too.
A few points:

-3 mem slots can be an advantage if somebody is never gonna use more than 6gigs. Shorter signal path means better and easier ram overclock. But DFI has a long tradition of excellent ram bandwith.
I'd like to see some comparison benches in this department.

-audio: i couldnt care less :)

-cooling, the dfi has better stock air coolers, but the x58 seems to run rather cool despite its predecessors, so rather moot point

-support is good either here (foxconn) or on dficlub (dfi)

-both boards have some bugs, the ones in the dfi may require rma

[FuryPT]

These two are among the boards i'm considering too.
A few points:

-3 mem slots can be an advantage if somebody is never gonna use more than 6gigs. Shorter signal path means better and easier ram overclock. But DFI has a long tradition of excellent ram bandwith.
I'd like to see some comparison benches in this department.

-audio: i couldnt care less :)

-cooling, the dfi has better stock air coolers, but the x58 seems to run rather cool despite its predecessors, so rather moot point

-support is good either here (foxconn) or on dficlub (dfi)

-both boards have some bugs, the ones in the dfi may require rma

What kind of bugs in the Dfi are u referring to??
I am thinking of buying this one, but first i need to know what are their problems...

Cumps

[RealTelstar]

these:
http://www.csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9090&page=14

[masxerofkartis]

Bloodrage. Other than the support, DFI is known to need Voodoo to clock. Very difficult boards, they may get 600mhz one time and afterwards not get half that with 2ble the voltage, While quantum force boards are great clockers and hell the bloodrage is some sexy looking board.

[Blacky]

Bloodrage. Other than the support, DFI is known to need Voodoo to clock. Very difficult boards, they may get 600mhz one time and afterwards not get half that with 2ble the voltage, While quantum force boards are great clockers and hell the bloodrage is some sexy looking board.

not DFI X58, very easy to clock infact its the best OCing X58 to date.

[rusty]

wow people don't like colors I don't care about colors. Whatever runs faster is the winner! I just got DFI x58

[dan___92]

I vote DFI.