GTX285 clock speed is 648/1476/1242MHz?

[onethreehill]

According to exact data we got today, the core/shader/memory frequency of GTX285 is 648/1476/1242MHz respectively. We can see obvious improvements comparing with 602/1296/1107MHz of GTX280. It’s noteworthy that the improvement of shader frequency has exceeded that of core frequency. In another word, the shader clock/core clock scaling of GTX285 is bigger than GTX280, which means slight improvement in performance.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/12/16/reliable-information-shows-improved-frequency-of-nvidia-gtx285.html

[Macadamia]

1476Mhz GDDR3. :O

[Blacky]

I was quite shocked. So this card basicly consumes less than a 216 (not by much tho) has a nice stock clocks (w/e mentioning OCing headroom) now the price! where?

[demonkevy666]

1476Mhz GDDR3. :O

I think 1,476 is shader clocks.

?? hhhmm was thinking 1242mhz was the ram speed.

[[XC] gomeler]

Interesting, will wait for retail cards before I get excited over this though.


I think 1,476 is shader clocks.

?? hhhmm was thinking 1242mhz was the ram speed.

You are correct.

[ANP !!!]

Yea its 1476 shaders and 1242 VRAM, quite weird values of clock speeds :rolleyes:

[Macadamia]

Aah yeah, you're right.

But still, 1242 for GDDR3 is nothing to cough at. Top batch of memory I think.

[dengyong]

I wonder if full cover water blocks for the 280 will interchange.

[Caveman787]

I feel like these are just overclocked gtx280's and the difference will be almost non existant....

[[XC] gomeler]

I feel like these are just overclocked gtx280's and the difference will be almost non existant....

Wait for the power consumption numbers before you pass such judgment.

[dinos22]

this is good news as shaders were really limiting the cards a lot

lets hope they can now push past 1600 on air fairly easily :D

[ColonelCain]

I feel like these are just overclocked gtx280's and the difference will be almost non existant....

They essentially are... as far as I know, there were no improvements to the u-arch, just a straight shrink to 55nm. Just for the end user, you will be able to overclock it considerably higher than the GTX280.

Any word on pricing?

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

This is looking better than the gtx295 due to lack of driver support if the past repeats itself.

GTX285 + water block = :D

Lets just hope the price is competitive as well and not super high.

[Macadamia]

They essentially are... as far as I know, there were no improvements to the u-arch, just a straight shrink to 55nm. Just for the end user, you will be able to overclock it considerably higher than the GTX280.

Any word on pricing?

I'm betting 20 bucks on 350-400USD. More likely 400 is MSRP, 350 max AR.

(Gah, it'll get in that range with Cashback anyway :rofl:)


Oh, and should OC very sweetly. Stock 750? Now that Leadtek 280 Extreme is true!

[dinos22]

I'm betting 20 bucks on 350-400USD. More likely 400 is MSRP, 350 max AR.

(Gah, it'll get in that range with Cashback anyway :rofl:)


Oh, and should OC very sweetly. Stock 750? Now that Leadtek 280 Extreme is true!

i can already do that with my 280 :p:
i reckon 800+ should be reachable for benching on air

much like the changer from 640MB 8800GTS to 512MB

[Macadamia]

i can already do that with my 280 :p:
i reckon 800+ should be reachable for benching on air

much like the changer from 640MB 8800GTS to 512MB

Not launch day 280s right? Those were the only one that actually had that high TDP, after that the chips got quite better too.

IIRC the G80 A3s were also darlings to OC.

[dinos22]

Not launch day 280s right? Those were the only one that actually had that high TDP, after that the chips got quite better too.

IIRC the G80 A3s were also darlings to OC.

launch GTX280 i got was maxing out at 700 because of shaders ;)

it was shaders all along that limited OCs on these cards

[Cybercat]

It's nice to see the shaders have been given the biggest increase. That's where it was needed the most.

[largon]

Voltage scaling and >2GHz shader OCs, please.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

launch GTX280 i got was maxing out at 700 because of shaders ;)

it was shaders all along that limited OCs on these cardsJust unlink the shaders from the GPU and clock the GPU from there.

[OBR]

ive seen Zotac model of GTX 285 with 700MHz on GPU!

[dinos22]

Just unlink the shaders from the GPU and clock the GPU from there.

you can only do it to a point ;)

[T_Flight]

Already getting above that on my 280GTX SSC and it was close to that at factory clocks. The memory is 100MHz higher on this new one, but the shader and core are about the same.

With OC'ing I can go well above that, and need water to keep it there.

[safan80]

this is good news as shaders were really limiting the cards a lot

lets hope they can now push past 1600 on air fairly easily :D

if they do sign me up for 2!

[clonez]

ah, another gtx+...

power consumption should be great
i'm seriously considering this card because of that

maybe a bit cheaper would be nice, too
but i guess it'll still be expensive, dont want to throw my money out of the window like i did with 7800gtx...

[safan80]

when this card drops ill be the first on the scene. shader improvement + farcry = heaven


I doubt it could play it at my res.

[Carfax]

I doubt it could play it at my res.

Far Cry 2 isn't that demanding that the GTX 280 stock (let alone the 285) can't handle it at 2560x1600 max detail..

[jasonelmore]

Far Cry 2 isn't that demanding that the GTX 280 stock (let alone the 285) can't handle it at 2560x1600 max detail..

Word

[gamervivek]

Far Cry 2 isn't that demanding that the GTX 280 stock (let alone the 285) can't handle it at 2560x1600 max detail..

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU3MSwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

:p:

[Carfax]

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU3MSwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

:p:

I can post links too (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/12681-games-christmas-08-gpu-performance-part-1-a-15.html)

[Gunslinger]

It played fine at 2560x1600 with a single GTX 280 on my system. Have yet to try it in Tri SLI.

[gamervivek]

I can post links too (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/12681-games-christmas-08-gpu-performance-part-1-a-15.html)

sure you can,but HC tested with very high and not ultra high.Hocp are always quite good with their game reviews about the playability of a game,so unless newer drivers have improved considerably a gtx280 won't maxx out FC2 at 2560x1600 with a decent amount of AA.

[NapalmV5]

ive seen Zotac model of GTX 285 with 700MHz on GPU!

but they got 700mhz gtx280.. for long time

dont tell me ive waited 6 months for nothing..

its already the 16th.. when available?

[Carfax]

sure you can,but HC tested with very high and not ultra high.Hocp are always quite good with their game reviews about the playability of a game,so unless newer drivers have improved considerably a gtx280 won't maxx out FC2 at 2560x1600 with a decent amount of AA.

All of this conversation is moot anyhow, because if you look at the source of our little dispute, Safan80 doubted the GTX 285 could play FC at 2560x1600..

He didn't say anything about details or extras like AA and AF :D

So in short, can the GTX 285 play FC at 2560x1600?

The answer is most definitely, because the GTX 280 which is slower handles that resolution just fine.

And I'm talking about the raw resolution here, and nothing else...

[eric66]

ive seen Zotac model of GTX 285 with 700MHz on GPU!
like this one :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500052

:ROTF:

[Shadowmage]

These aren't a straight shrink, else the shader speeds won't be so high. There was considerable effort put into removing the bottlenecks (at a microarchitectural level) to increase the shader speeds.

[Caveman787]

How do you know this shadowmage, seems like a shrink and an overclock to me and that's how nividia seems to work lately.

[sonofander]

Any word on the layout of these cards? Be nice if current waterblocks fit...

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Any word on the layout of these cards? Be nice if current waterblocks fit...

If the gtx285 is following in the footsteps of the gtx265, layout wise, then NO.

You'll need a new block. So everyone with a gtx260/280 who'll upgrade, You're SOL and JWF if you plan on using old blocks, at least that's how it appears.

[Beefy22]

this is good news as shaders were really limiting the cards a lot

lets hope they can now push past 1600 on air fairly easily :D

If they could do that while priced competitively I may buy one, unless Nvidia really plans on getting GT300 out sometime in 1Q09 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=211169).

G80 GTS -> 500mhz core / 1200mhz shader | ratio 2.4
G80 GTX -> 575mhz core / 1350mhz shader | ratio ~2.35
G80 Ultra -> 612mhz core / 1500mhz shader | ratio ~ 2.45
G92 GT -> 600mhz core / 1500mhz shader | ratio 2.5
G92 GTS -> 650mhz core / 1625mhz shader | ratio 2.5
G92b GTX+ -> 738mhz core / 1836mhz shader | ratio ~2.5
G92 GX2 -> 600mhz core / 1500mhz shader | ratio 2.5
GTX 260 -> 576mhz core / 1240mhz shader | ratio ~ 2.15
GTX 280 -> 602mhz core / 1296mhz shader | ratio ~ 2.15
GTX 285 -> 648mhz core / 1476mhz shader | ratio ~ 2.28
GTX 295 -> 576mhz core / 1242mhz shader(* (http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=366673)) | ratio ~ 2.16

If the above core/shader clks are indeed accurate the ratio has been improved, yet still lags behind it's predecessors.

[Shadowmage]

How do you know this shadowmage, seems like a shrink and an overclock to me and that's how nividia seems to work lately.

Although I can't publicly answer your question, think about it: why is the increase to shader clocks much higher than to the core? Also think about how much overhead NV chips usually have. It would make sense logically, even without someone claiming to have info without any sources.

[NapalmV5]

its the 17th.. christmas a week away.. when available?

[zlojack]

its the 17th.. christmas a week away.. when available?

January.

If they're presenting the GTX 295 on January 9th, I don't imagine they'll be available until after that.

[NapalmV5]

January.

If they're presenting the GTX 295 on January 9th, I don't imagine they'll be available until after that.

u stinkin nvidia!

but this is the 285.. werent a number ofem supposed to be available before/on christmas?

[zlojack]

u stinkin nvidia!

but this is the 285.. werent a number ofem supposed to be available before/on christmas?

It would be nice.

I doubt they'll make their way up to Canada until after that, though :down:

[NapalmV5]

:moon: gtx295 vs 4870x2 :moon:

for crying out loud.. when/wheres the gtx285 preview/review ??

[Gunslinger]

:moon: gtx295 vs 4870x2 :moon:

for crying out loud.. when/wheres the gtx285 preview/review ??

I hear you, I have 84, 76, and 60 days left before my step-up options expire.

[onethreehill]

http://resources.vr-zone.com/newzhunter/GTX295/GTX285_1.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com/newzhunter/GTX295/GTX285_2.jpg

http://bbs.chiphell.com/viewthread.php?tid=37201&extra=page%3D1

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=370105

[mikeyakame]

so at its default clocks its roughly 10% more powerful than the 280 which roughly equates to 7-8% higher clock on core, 13% higher clock on shader , 12% higher clock on memory.

So its roughly on par in terms of performance, but has at least 8-10% more overhead clock for clock, which is where it'll hold its own. This alone I believe will justify it's place in the market.

[Cyrus_the_Virus]

also the power consumption dropped enough that the 285's only use 2 6 pin pci-e plugs instead of a 6 pin and an 8 pin...


We can regard GeForce GTX285 as GTX280 Overclocking Edition with less power consumption. GeForce GTX280’s Maximum Graphics Card Power is 236W, and it requires a 6-pin and a 8-pin PEG Power Connectors. However, GeForce GTX285’s power consumption has been reduced to 183W with only 2 6-pin PEG power connectors needed.



http://en.expreview.com/2008/12/11/55nm-gtx285-climbs-to-head-of-single-gpu-cards.html

[003]

When will it be available for purchase?? The 285 will likely be my next card , and I will water cool it. I now only seek the most powerful single GPU card. Regardless of what others say, there are horrible issues with AFR like micro stutter, and FPS that feels much lower than what is reported, etc.. and I can talk from personal experience, I used to own two 4870X2s in CFX. On an X48 board, so dual x16 PCI-e 2.0 lanes. Trust me, fast single GPU is really the only way to go. Now it appears that there will be no RV775 and ATI won't be releasing any new cards until March, the RV740 which should be similar in performance to the 4830 or 4850...

I have heard talk about a 4970, but I really don't see that happening at this point, especially not any time soon.

[scottc19]

I'm with you 003. You guys think that swiftechs heatsink thing will fit the 285.... http://www.swiftnets.com/products/gtx200.asp Because I am kind of tired of gluing a lot of those small copper heatsinks around and having them fall over, worse yet trying to remove them in the event the card needs an rma....

[003]

I'm with you 003. You guys think that swiftechs heatsink thing will fit the 285.... http://www.swiftnets.com/products/gtx200.asp Because I am kind of tired of gluing a lot of those small copper heatsinks around and having them fall over, worse yet trying to remove them in the event the card needs an rma....

I'm confused again though. In this article:
http://www.hardware.info/en-US/news/ymiclJqawpiab5Y/AMD_No_faster_HD4800_card_in_January/

It says that it was confirmed there will be no RV775, but there will be a "super" RV770 labeled as the HD4900 series in March... I don't know if I should believe that or not. But even if it's true, would the single GPU version really be faster than the 285? I'm doubting it, but you never know... Ahhhh but its due in March (if it is even real in the first place), which means even longer wait than for the 285... and this friggen x1950xtx is killing my games...

I just don't want to make the wrong choice here (in regard to fastest single GPU) :mad:

[vengance_01]

I think the 55nm GTX 216 is going to be the better buy, but I would not mind a GTX 285. ;)

[mikeyakame]

003,

If there is a special run of highest binned ATI cards tagged and sold as a different model, they might at best compete with a 55nm 260 as that's what they would be designed to compete against. A single core 4870 has never been able to touch the 280, as that was what the 4870x2 was designed to compete with. 4870 is a competitor against the 260, that's its market.

If the 285 clocks anything like the 280 you can't and won't go wrong. My 280 now clocks pretty well, so assuming the drop in thermal displacement it'll have even more overhead to stretch it's legs. I personally don't care for who makes what I just want to give you the facts. As a single chip card the 285 will still hold the crown, and as it seems you aren't too fond of multi card/chip bridging I suppose you really only have one choice in the matter. The other is a 295 or 4870x2 which clearly isn't viable choice.

[saaya]

hahah, i love this comment: :lol: :D


If you’re interested, you could try to overclock GTX280 to 648/1476/1242MHz (core/shader/memory) to experience amazing performance of GTX285 ahead of time.

[eric66]

003,

If there is a special run of highest binned ATI cards tagged and sold as a different model, they might at best compete with a 55nm 260 as that's what they would be designed to compete against. A single core 4870 has never been able to touch the 280, as that was what the 4870x2 was designed to compete with. 4870 is a competitor against the 260, that's its market.

If the 285 clocks anything like the 280 you can't and won't go wrong. My 280 now clocks pretty well, so assuming the drop in thermal displacement it'll have even more overhead to stretch it's legs. I personally don't care for who makes what I just want to give you the facts. As a single chip card the 285 will still hold the crown, and as it seems you aren't too fond of multi card/chip bridging I suppose you really only have one choice in the matter. The other is a 295 or 4870x2 which clearly isn't viable choice.
wrong : http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=18

[Stevethegreat]

wrong : http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=18

Wow, one game, ONE game and that's before nV's release of 180s drivers. Please people stay on topic, it's hubris to compare the 4870 with GTX280, I mean even GTX260 216 finishes with a good 10% advantage compared to 4870 in a lot of games, at least according to recent reviews...

[eric66]

Wow, one game, ONE game and that's before nV's release of 180s drivers. Please people stay on topic, it's hubris to compare the 4870 with GTX280, I mean even GTX260 216 finishes with a good 10% advantage compared to 4870 in a lot of games, at least according to recent reviews...
recent reviews review same games over and over :ROTF: anand report no improvement in other games you can find it if you search love how ppl introduce 180 drivers as magical drivers :ROTF:


http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3462&p=4

[Carfax]

recent reviews review same games over and over :ROTF: anand report no improvement in other games you can find it if you search love how ppl introduce 180 drivers as magical drivers :ROTF:


http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3462&p=4

Sorry, but Anandtech's driver "review" was done using 180.44 drivers, and not the 180.48 release drivers :ROTF:

Not all 180xx drivers are created equal, as there are substantial improvements in the official release and post release beta drivers compared to the earlier ones.

Evidence (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/11949-far-cry-2-hardware-performance-review-10.html)

[mikeyakame]

recent reviews review same games over and over :ROTF: anand report no improvement in other games you can find it if you search love how ppl introduce 180 drivers as magical drivers :ROTF:


http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3462&p=4

I won't argue with people posting reviews or even over silly brand names I'm just tell you from my own experience because FPS doesn't give a full picture.

I've used alll 3 (260, 280, 4870) personally on similar systems, and the 4870 stands no ground to a gtx280. On the other hand it's roughly on par with the 260. I like the 4870 it's not a bad card, it's price is good but it's not the same playing field as a 280. It's not marketed at the 280, but where its marketed it does exactly what its aimed to do.

[AbelJemka]

@eric66 : You will always 1 or 2 games 4870 bested 280GTX but in average 280GTX is easily 30% faster than 4870 in average :D

[eric66]

Sorry, but Anandtech's driver "review" was done using 180.44 drivers, and not the 180.48 release drivers :ROTF:

Not all 180xx drivers are created equal, as there are substantial improvements in the official release and post release beta drivers compared to the earlier ones.

Evidence (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/11949-far-cry-2-hardware-performance-review-10.html)
again far cry 2 i am talking about different games not same 5 games that reviewers are benching like crazy puppets and i didn't say that 4870 is on par with gtx 280 but there are some games that it is even in that review difference is 5 fps unless my eyes lie to me

[safan80]

I've used alll 3 (260, 280, 4870) personally on similar systems, and the 4870 stands no ground to a gtx280. On the other hand it's roughly on par with the 260. I like the 4870 it's not a bad card, it's price is good but it's not the same playing field as a 280. It's not marketed at the 280, but where its marketed it does exactly what its aimed to do.

I had a 280 it doesn't keep up with the 4870x2 at my res.

[mikeyakame]

I had a 280 it doesn't keep up with the 4870x2 at my res.

Of course it doesnt! It shouldn't anyway! x2 is quite a bit more powerful when x-fire profile is working correctly in games. x2 excels with 2560x1600 where it's targeted at, and for that the card gets my utmost respect at what it does.

They were speaking of the single chip 4870 when making comparisons.

[generics_user]

Of course it doesnt! It shouldn't anyway! x2 is quite a bit more powerful when x-fire profile is working correctly in games. x2 excels with 2560x1600 where it's targeted at, and for that the card gets my utmost respect at what it does.

They were speaking of the single chip 4870 when making comparisons.

which is kinda stupid as this card will go against the 4870X2 :shrug:

[mikeyakame]

which is kinda stupid as this card will go against the 4870X2 :shrug:

Personally I agree, so I don't know why people continue to make the same uneducated pointless comparisons but they can't seem to help themselves regardless.

285 is aimed at 4870x2, 295 is aimed to go beyond the x2. At least that's how it seems the target of Nvidia, whether they will or not is a different thing all together.

[003]

285 is aimed at 4870x2, 295 is aimed to go beyond the x2. At least that's how it seems the target of Nvidia, whether they will or not is a different thing all together.

Err... 285 is aimed to reduce cost of manufacturing for nvidia. If anything, it's only meant to fill the spot of the 280, and nvidia themselves have stated it will only be 10% faster than the 280. With that being the case, a 4870X2 should still be a good bit faster. fanboys please gtfo and don't derail this thread...

[AbelJemka]

Personally I agree, so I don't know why people continue to make the same uneducated pointless comparisons but they can't seem to help themselves regardless.

285 is aimed at 4870x2, 295 is aimed to go beyond the x2. At least that's how it seems the target of Nvidia, whether they will or not is a different thing all together.
If 285GTX is aimed at 4870X2 why Nvidia slide compare it to 280GTX? :rolleyes:

[onewingedangel]

285 is aimed at 4870x2, 295 is aimed to go beyond the x2. At least that's how it seems the target of Nvidia, whether they will or not is a different thing all together.

The 295 looks to be priced on a similar level to the x2 - so the 285 will likely be priced below current gtx 280 pricing.

[MarcusFoX]

if only Ihad the money droolz....... :)

[LiquidReactor]

Wow, one game, ONE game and that's before nV's release of 180s drivers. Please people stay on topic, it's hubris to compare the 4870 with GTX280, I mean even GTX260 216 finishes with a good 10% advantage compared to 4870 in a lot of games, at least according to recent reviews...


No both cards are still neck and neck in the top 10 games. But if you really want to push it, try 8xaa and see which card pulls out ahead. :ROTF:

[tmgp]

Err... 285 is aimed to reduce cost of manufacturing for nvidia.

not only... otherwise thet would have kept the name just like they did with the new GTX260 55nm... let's see what we can expect from this GTX285... i hope that they'll present it at least in CES...

[onethreehill]

GTX285 Preview

Test system:

* Processor
o Intel core of 2 extremes QX9770 (over-clocks by multiplicator on 4 GHz, Quad core)
* CCU radiator
o Noctua NH-U12P
* Motherboard
o Asus RAM PAGE of extremes (Intel X48, BIOS version: 0501) Main test plate and for CrossFire systems
o XFX nForce 790i Ultra (Nvidia nForce 790i, BIOS version: 811N1P01_Beta) for SLI systems
* Main memory
o 2x 1,024 MT G.Skill DDR3-1600 (7-7-7-18)
o 2x 1,024 MT patriot DDR3-1600 (7-7-7-18)
* Diagram maps
o ATi Radeon hp 4870 X2 (750/1.800), 2x 1,024 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 4870 (750/1.800), 1,024 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 4870 (750/1.800), 512 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 4850 (625/993), 512 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 4830 (575/900), 512 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 4670 (750/1.000), 512 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 3870 (775/1.125), 512 MT
o Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 (648/1.476/1.242), 1,024 MT (simulate through over clocks of the GeForce GTX 280)
o Nvidia GeForce GTX 280 (602/1.296/1.107), 1,024 MT
o Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 new revision (576/1.242/999), 896 MT
o Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 (576/1.242/999), 896 MT
o Nvidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ (738/1.836/1.100), 512 MT
o Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT (600/1.512/900), 512 MT
o Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT (650/1.625/900), 512 MT
o Nvidia GeForce 9600 GSO (555/1.350/800), 384 MT
* Power pack
o Cool master M850 material power pro modular (850 Watts)
* Periphery
o Toshiba SD-H802A Hp-DVD-drive assembly
o Pioneer BDC-202BK SATA Blu ray drive assembly
o Samsung spin POINT F1 SATA2-HDD with 750 GB and 32 MT cache
* Housing
o Cool master Stacker 832
* Driver versions
o Nvidia GeForce 180.48
o ATi Catalyst 8.11

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2008/vorschau_nvidia_geforce_gtx_285/10/

[koc]

according to the review http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2008/vorschau_nvidia_geforce_gtx_285/10/

the 285GTX beat the 280GTX with 5-10 fps

i think i will keep my 2X 280GTX for longer time

[Eastcoasthandle]

according to the review http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2008/vorschau_nvidia_geforce_gtx_285/10/

the 285GTX beat the 280GTX with 5-10 fps

i think i will keep my 2X 280GTX for longer time
It looks to me those results are from an overclocked GTX 280 not the GTX 285 itself.
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 *:


* The GeForce GTX 285 by overclocking the GeForce GTX 280 simulated!

According to google translator.


# Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 (648/1.476/1.242), 1,024 MB (simulated by overclocking the GeForce GTX 280)
vs
# Nvidia GeForce GTX 280 (602/1.296/1.107), 1.024 MB Nvidia GeForce GTX 280 (602/1.296/1.107), 1,024 MB

[RaZz!]

yes, the computerbase article ist just a preview with an overlocked gtx280 and not the actual gtx285 gpu :)

[jmke]

according to the review http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2008/vorschau_nvidia_geforce_gtx_285/10/

the 285GTX beat the 280GTX with 5-10 fps

i think i will keep my 2X 280GTX for longer time

according to first news reports, the 285 GTX was never going to be anywhere near 2x280GTX performance... :rofl:

[jmase]

how much is this 285 going to cost me in british pounds? Does anyone know pricing yet?

[AuDioFreaK39]

GTX285 Preview

Test system:

* Processor
o Intel core of 2 extremes QX9770 (over-clocks by multiplicator on 4 GHz, Quad core)
* CCU radiator
o Noctua NH-U12P
* Motherboard
o Asus RAM PAGE of extremes (Intel X48, BIOS version: 0501) Main test plate and for CrossFire systems
o XFX nForce 790i Ultra (Nvidia nForce 790i, BIOS version: 811N1P01_Beta) for SLI systems
* Main memory
o 2x 1,024 MT G.Skill DDR3-1600 (7-7-7-18)
o 2x 1,024 MT patriot DDR3-1600 (7-7-7-18)
* Diagram maps
o ATi Radeon hp 4870 X2 (750/1.800), 2x 1,024 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 4870 (750/1.800), 1,024 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 4870 (750/1.800), 512 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 4850 (625/993), 512 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 4830 (575/900), 512 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 4670 (750/1.000), 512 MT
o ATi Radeon hp 3870 (775/1.125), 512 MT
o Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 (648/1.476/1.242), 1,024 MT (simulate through over clocks of the GeForce GTX 280)
o Nvidia GeForce GTX 280 (602/1.296/1.107), 1,024 MT
o Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 new revision (576/1.242/999), 896 MT
o Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 (576/1.242/999), 896 MT
o Nvidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ (738/1.836/1.100), 512 MT
o Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT (600/1.512/900), 512 MT
o Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT (650/1.625/900), 512 MT
o Nvidia GeForce 9600 GSO (555/1.350/800), 384 MT
* Power pack
o Cool master M850 material power pro modular (850 Watts)
* Periphery
o Toshiba SD-H802A Hp-DVD-drive assembly
o Pioneer BDC-202BK SATA Blu ray drive assembly
o Samsung spin POINT F1 SATA2-HDD with 750 GB and 32 MT cache
* Housing
o Cool master Stacker 832
* Driver versions
o Nvidia GeForce 180.48
o ATi Catalyst 8.11

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2008/vorschau_nvidia_geforce_gtx_285/10/



Yeah, simulated, ROFL. Can't really call that news. :down:



By the way, Fudzilla published the correct GTX 285 frequencies on December 24th:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11101&Itemid=1

[onethreehill]

NVIDIA'S NDA ON the 285 and 295 go up tomorrow, so we figured we would bring you the complete scores early. We aren't NDA'd, nor are we afraid of being cut off, so we won't stick to their 'recommended' list of things to show you. Enjoy.

First up, we have the 285, with scores taken on an Intel i7 3.2/965 overclocked to 3.33 for grins. It uses 6G of DDR3/1600 9-9-9-24 on the broken OS SP1, 64-bit. No malware was removed from the OS. The drivers are the 180.48s.

They are listed by 1920 x 1200 followed by 2560 x 1600 scores, 285, 260-216 and 9800GTX+ in that order. Everything else should be pretty self evident. Enjoy, unless you are NDA'd, then call Nvidia and vent.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/267/1050267/full-nvidia-gt285-scores

[003]

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/267/1050267/full-nvidia-gt285-scores

Cool, but it would have been nice to include GTX280 results as well.

[onethreehill]

GTX285 Picture Gallery
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,672346/News/Geforce_GTX_285_officially_introduced-_Details_about_the_new_Nvidia_card_-_review_follows/&menu=browser&mode=article&image_id=959505&article_id=672346&page=1

[NapalmV5]

thanks for the link.. onethreehill

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,672346/News/Geforce_GTX_285_officially_introduced-_Details_about_the_new_Nvidia_card_-_review_follows/&menu=browser&image_id=959519&article_id=672346&page=1&show=original

oh baby..

[LaMpiR]

Any news on price? You can get on newegg gtx280 for $300 now :)

[inCore]

We pay twice that for a GTX280 here in Switzerland.

[onethreehill]

Any news on price? You can get on newegg gtx280 for $300 now :)


The recommended retail price for the GTX 285 is 369 Euro - incidentally the price several AMD cards of the HD 4870 X2 series dropped down to today. Overclocked versions of the GTX 285 can be expected for additional 20 to 30 Euros.
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,672346/News/Geforce_GTX_285_officially_introduced-_Details_about_the_new_Nvidia_card_-_review_follows/

[onethreehill]

Any news on price? You can get on newegg gtx280 for $300 now :)

Listed on Zipzoomfly


I wonder if the release of the 285 (http://search.zipzoomfly.com/?Key=gtx+285&Category=00&x=0&y=0) early at zzf plays any factor on this.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3574888&postcount=24

[SNIPoR]

looks like Tbreak.com reviewed the GTX285 before the release date
http://www.tbreak.com/articles/40/1/Zotac-GTX285-AMP-Edition/Page1.html

[Diverge]

doesn't seem like gtx285 is a good upgrade coming from gtx280. So all the people getting 280's for cheap are getting good bargains, if they prefer nvidia over ati.

[NaMcO]

It's not meant to be an upgrade, just a refresh. It's about the same performance clock-per-clock.

[JudgmentJay]

We already know that an overclocked 280 == 285 in terms of performance. I just want to know power usage, heat, and a better comparison of OC ability vs the 280. If it can't overclock more than the 280 then it's kinda pointless to spend $75 more unless you *need* the power drop.

[largon]

looks like Tbreak.com reviewed the GTX285 before the release date
http://www.tbreak.com/articles/40/1/Zotac-GTX285-AMP-Edition/Page1.htmlPage 2 (http://www.tbreak.com/articles/40/2/Zotac-GTX285-AMP-Edition/Page2.html) ->

As you can see, the Shader chip has been rightly moved to where it used to be on the 8800GTX card.It's been over 2 years since 8800GTX was released and there's still reviewers out there that dont have a clue what that chip (NVIO) is...
http://largon.wippiespace.com/smilies/blankstare.gif

[Diverge]

We already know that an overclocked 280 == 285 in terms of performance. I just want to know power usage, heat, and a better comparison of OC ability vs the 280. If it can't overclock more than the 280 then it's kinda pointless to spend $75 more unless you *need* the power drop.



While we are talking about overclocking, we weren't able to take the GTX285 much higher than Zotac's overclocked speeds- At 715Mhz core, we started seeing artifacts

Might be a one off, but that review said they weren't able to get much more out when overclocking.

[Carfax]

looks like Tbreak.com reviewed the GTX285 before the release date
http://www.tbreak.com/articles/40/1/Zotac-GTX285-AMP-Edition/Page1.html

What a crap review :down:

But I have to say, the GTX 285 at 700/1512 puts down some impressive numbers for a lone GPU set up :up:

[JudgmentJay]

Might be a one off, but that review said they weren't able to get much more out when overclocking.

Yeah I saw that... just looking for some different perspectives.

[LexDiamonds]

I believe the shader domain is what holds back the overclock on 200 series chips... unlinking this from the core clock is what will present the best overclocks.

This being said, it is impressive to see the gains the overclocked Zotac makes on the vanilla 285 with only a small bump in the actual shader domain. Clearly, Zotac unlinks these to achieve the 700+mhz on the core. There is obviously performance to be had just from increasing the base core/ mem clocks.

I am really looking forward to the 285 (coming from a 8800gtx). I wish they were debuting at $350, but it is looking like $400 at this point. This is a bit tough to swallow with the 295 only being 100 bones more, but I have always been a single GPU man...

[NapalmV5]

gtx285 becomes available @ newegg today ??

[postumus]

tmrw the 15th i believe

[NapalmV5]

gtx295 became available on the 7th

[Mr.BSEL]

Looks like the gtx285 is now on Newegg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%20106792634%201067946202&name=GeForce%20GTX%20285

[eric66]

lol price is joke they didn't learn anything

[NapalmV5]

kinky weekend coming up

[GoldenTiger]

Looks like the gtx285 is now on Newegg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%20106792634%201067946202&name=GeForce%20GTX%20285

LOL, wow, those prices are a joke. $380 to 420 :rofl: . So glad I bought a second GTX 280 to go with my current one for SLI for $200 just now... just in time to drive a 2560x1600 monitor :D.

[Mk]

i'm about to buy these can you guys tell me whats the TDP and wither my power supply in my sig can handle it or not? extreme pSU not updated yet :S

[Zaskar]

wow the prices are a bit high, their only just a bit under the GTX 295.