AMD Dragon Platform exhibition

[dread77]

Check this (http://oktabit.foracamp.gr/content/amd-dragon-live-web-broadcast-english-version) out.

"Dear technology enthusiast,

AMD is inviting you in a live web broadcasting demonstration of the upcoming Dragon Platform.
During this interactive broadcast you will be able to check by yourself this amazing platform (PhenomII) under extreme gaming and overclocking conditions..."

http://oktabit.foracamp.gr/files/invite_webcast_logo.jpg

[Frontl1ne]

Wow, are we allowed to go watch too? If not, please record it for us :D

[Smalltimer]

Wow thanks alot for this.
I guess it's quite obvious that AMD has nothing to hide now.

I look forward to the video thx! :up:

[G0ldBr1ck]

nice :up:

[Tiridum]

hopefully my crappy univ college network allows it, want to watch :(

[G-UNIT91]

Check this (http://oktabit.foracamp.gr/content/amd-dragon-live-web-broadcast-english-version) out.

"Dear technology enthusiast,

AMD is inviting you in a live web broadcasting demonstration of the upcoming Dragon Platform.
During this interactive broadcast you will be able to check by yourself this amazing platform (PhenomII) under extreme gaming and overclocking conditions..."

http://oktabit.foracamp.gr/files/invite_webcast_logo.jpg

:party::cheer::YIPPIE::party2::bounces::bday2::YIP PIE:

[malice85]

Great stuff, looking forward to it ;)

[Mav451]

Heh I see dread77 with the 4th comment on the 1st page.

I don't have experience with the AMD Overdrive app - so no idea what to look for if it's legit or not. I would presume it is though, especially if they are doing a webcast.

[dread77]

FAKE ?

I can't understand what your main problem is??? You became a member in OKTABIT's swearing and using foul language just to claim that this screenshot is fake??? For God's name!!!
Can't you understand that OKTABIT is an exclusive AMD supplier in Greece and COULD NEVER post fake screenshots???
Not even for marketing reasons. How difficult is it for you to understand???

[Rammsteiner]

http://oktabit.foracamp.gr/files/Phenom_940_3813_temps.jpg

FAKE ?
Doesnt look fake:rolleyes:

But whether something looks fake or not doesnt mean a lot either.

[dread77]

Well, it's not fake!!! :shakes:

Though, if 28C in idle status in 3,8GHz looks so unbelievably good, then AMD has done a GREAT job...:yepp:

[Bgriffs]

ok sorry
i wat respect you, but i don't like the people then post the fake.

i don't know if you are one of faker but i want give you 1 possibility for a demostraction.

ok ?

So next time take a little time to see if there is anyway that it could be fake before coming here and screaming it was fake. It happens a lot around here and usually when anything that shows AMD doing something that no one thinks can be done is done. Give it 2 more days for this live preview then come back and make a statement.

[dread77]

ok sorry
i wat respect you, but i don't like the people then post the fake.

i don't know if you are one of faker but i want give you 1 possibility for a demostraction.

ok ?

You are welcome to visit OKTABIT's lab in Athens and have a live demonstration whenever you want.
(you are paying your flight tickets):ROTF:

Until then, you just have to wait for more screenshots and on the 10th you can watch the live web demonstration.

[Rammsteiner]

I can't understand what your main problem is??? You became a member in OKTABIT's swearing and using foul language just to claim that this screenshot is fake??? For God's name!!!
Can't you understand that OKTABIT is an exclusive AMD supplier in Greece and COULD NEVER post fake screenshots???
Not even for marketing reasons. How difficult is it for you to understand???
Im starting to suspect this is the Italian Chad:p:

[Glow9]

When is this going on? I think I saw something 8am Wednesday? Yeash I'm in for archieved content

[Hell Hound]

Will overdrive still be in beta stage when Deneb drops ?:confused:

[leoy]

Beta stage? There is no beta stage in overdrive

[informal]

Im starting to suspect this is the Italian Chad:p:

I had a conversation with this Italian Chad :p:,the result of which is in my sig :rofl:

To quote Macadamia from my gbook:

All your attak are belong to us!
:rofl:


Anyhow,just in the most simple English language and just for lo squartatore:
The screen shot is not fake. It is legit . It is posted by an exclusive Greek AMD supplier(oktabit) . Stop making a fool of yourself. Good day.

[Hell Hound]

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/906/mirrors.php I guess its not in beta no more.Even the videos say's its in beta.I want full support for xp.

[initialised]

2PM GMT is bad for me, will have to see how much I can catch, I could always argue that it's vital to my work, after all I need to know how to tame the Dragon once we start selling them.

[initialised]

Well, it's not fake!!! :shakes:

Though, if 28C in idle status in 3,8GHz looks so unbelievably good, then AMD has done a GREAT job...:yepp:Not if it's cooled but liquid nitrogen!

What cooling was used for that screen shot BTW?

[leoy]

Not if it's cooled but liquid nitrogen!

What cooling was used for that screen shot BTW?

9950 cooler

[accord99]

9950 cooler
Which clearly means that the temperature sensor is "inaccurate".

[Tiridum]

Which clearly means that the temperature sensor is "inaccurate".

proof?

[kir4]

rly looking forward to this webcast!!

I don't get those guys flaming about fakes ..
if they think so okay.. but a whole community with rly proven members to make a big storry up, just to be proven wrong and lose all their reliance they worked for?? For what? to lose all that, just to trick some AMD users in false hope`?

Never mind ^^ just my opinion
And yes i like Green but i also do own some Blue chips..

[accord99]

proof?
Based on Shanghai power consumption, typical problems of early new CPUs to have problems with temperature sensors, etc. But in the end, the idle temperature doesn't matter very much as compared to the load temperature and both are subject to error and therefore less important that actual power consumption.

[initialised]

9950 coolerThat's not bad at all, I've never seen a 3.8GHz i7 or C2Q that cool at idle, even with XSPC Delta V3 waterblocks they tend to run in the high 30s, water just keeps the delta-T down.

What are your load temps?
How long is it Prime Stable?
What was the ambient temp?

[initialised]

Based on Shanghai power consumption, typical problems of early new CPUs to have problems with temperature sensors, etc. But in the end, the idle temperature doesn't matter very much as compared to the load temperature.At 4GHz+ i7 can have delta-T of 45-50C which usually kills the OC by overshooting the 95C limit and either crashing or throttling. 28C is promising assuming that delta-T + idle-T < Tmax

[gallag]

That's not bad at all, I've never seen a 3.8GHz i7 or C2Q that cool at idle, even with XSPC Delta V3 waterblocks they tend to run in the high 30s, water just keeps the delta-T down.


There is a interesting post in the i7 ocing thread in the Intel section, 4.515GHZ @1.37v. Nice idle temps on air.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3484072&postcount=706

Anything is possible.

[dread77]

That's not bad at all, I've never seen a 3.8GHz i7 or C2Q that cool at idle, even with XSPC Delta V3 waterblocks they tend to run in the high 30s, water just keeps the delta-T down.

What are your load temps? 42C
How long is it Prime Stable? Not tested with Prime95, 100% through all benchmarks
What was the ambient temp? 20C

No broken thermal sensors (other samples around are giving same results), no fake screenshots... Most definitely do not want to lose my reliability among XS members, I only post what I saw and can prove.

[gallag]

42c with a stock 9950 cooler is fantastic.

[JAWS]

Gotta give AMD some credit, not a peep of info before Barcelona was released. now you can't keep them quite.

I hope to not be DEVASTATED this time. :p:

I'll be watching the vid for sure! :up:

[donitsi]

I can't believe they are even paid to do the vid... (jealous)
Quit teasing people! Launch these processors already :D

[Sparky]

8 AM CST, that is 9 AM EST I think if I don't have my timezones confused again. Darn, I'll be at work then.

[initialised]

There is a interesting post in the i7 ocing thread in the Intel section, 4.515GHZ @1.37v. Nice idle temps on air.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3484072&postcount=706

Anything is possible.Still not 28C idle though, very nice delta-T but a single core test so not representative

[T_Flight]

At 4GHz+ i7 can have delta-T of 45-50C which usually kills the OC by overshooting the 95C limit and either crashing or throttling. 28C is promising assuming that delta-T + idle-T < Tmax

There are something like 20 CPU's here at XS that have ran the Chess benchmark at between 4-4.35GHz, none of them were crashing or throttling. That benchmark fully loads all cores 100% and does 8 threads. I have one at 3.8GHz and have ran that bench and am over 30 degrees from the TjMax with a box stock cooler, when the cores are fully loaded for 10 minutes HT enabled 8 threads. It reaches max temp and planes off at around 2 minutes of calcultions. Once it reaches that temp it stays there. Not even near the TM limit.

[Tiridum]

There are something like 20 CPU's here at XS that have ran the Chess benchmark at between 4-4.35GHz, none of them were crashing or throttling. That benchmark fully loads all cores 100% and does 8 threads. I have one at 3.8GHz and have ran that bench and am over 30 degrees from the TjMax with a box stock cooler, when the cores are fully loaded for 10 minutes HT enabled 8 threads. It reaches max temp and planes off at around 2 minutes of calcultions. Once it reaches that temp it stays there. Not even near the TM limit.

you can disable throtling...

[Movieman]

I'll be at the Boston little get together this Friday to see for myself.
yup, already got my invitation..:D

[T_Flight]

Yes, I know, but there is no reason to. I've never gotten anywhere near the TjMax. 4 will get closer to it, but I haven't heard anyone that has said their system was crashing and throttling.

[Chad Boga]

Im starting to suspect this is the Italian Chad:p:
:ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:

[Brother Esau]

I'll be at the Boston little get together this Friday to see for myself.
yup, already got my invitation..:D

Hey.......N00B Admin:welcome::rofl::ROTF:

[Rammsteiner]

Based on Shanghai power consumption, typical problems of early new CPUs to have problems with temperature sensors, etc. But in the end, the idle temperature doesn't matter very much as compared to the load temperature and both are subject to error and therefore less important that actual power consumption.
First ES/steppings which dont hit retail are early CPU's as well:rolleyes:

Since ambient should be around 20, I think 28 on idle does say a lot. Especially if you consider that both 9850BE and 6400+ idle with a TRUE where like ~30 on stock with ~20 ambient.

[dinos22]

thats nice

[accord99]

First ES/steppings which dont hit retail are early CPU's as well:rolleyes:
Or Brisbane whose DTS were broken on release and has apparently yet to be fixed, or the stuck early Intel 45nm DTS, or their wildly changing Tjmax values.


Since ambient should be around 20, I think 28 on idle does say a lot. Especially if you consider that both 9850BE and 6400+ idle with a TRUE where like ~30 on stock with ~20 ambient.
It means very little without knowing the accuracy of temperature sensor; if there was a power consumption figure then that could corroborate or reject the idle value.

[informal]

Or Brisbane whose DTS were broken on release and has apparently yet to be fixed, or the stuck early Intel 45nm DTS, or their wildly changing Tjmax values.


It means very little without knowing the accuracy of temperature sensor; if there was a power consumption figure then that could corroborate or reject the idle value.
You will have all the numbers very soon.Patience.

[Morais]

Live streaming starting in 15 minutes @ http://www.mogulus.com/amdunprocessed

[Face]

Live streaming starting in 15 minutes @ http://www.mogulus.com/amdunprocessed

Thanks, just started. Showing 6.3Ghz on CPU-Z.

Edit: SF3D, Sampsa, Macci & Hardmann seating all together now speaking.

P.S. Whoever put that chat up there.. bad idea.

[informal]

It's streaming now,although choppy a bit.They showed a vid of 6.2Ghz OC.
Do i see Sampsa there :) ? He spoke just 10 secs ago.

[v_rr]

3d Stability @ 6.0Ghz confirmed

[Tiridum]

too much :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing lag
the guy on the left is quite :banana::banana::banana::banana:y also

and that chat is annoying

[informal]

Pete: "Random allocation of the chips,not cherry picked in any particular way".
They mentioned 4GHz on air,but i didn't catch voltage value for that clock.

[Tiridum]

vid is dead in the middle of a conversation

[AbelJemka]

Chat kill us :(

[informal]

There will be on-demand version soon.That chat was spammed a lot by trolls...

[flopper]

good 6ghz.
question is how this number wise show the strength of the new platform from amd.

[Dagalidis]

:eek: WOW.....:up:
6.3 GHZ max CPU-Z
6 GHZ Stable 3D BENCH !!!! :clap::shocked:

AMD is BACK..... :D

[malice85]

/quit is all I can say regarding this chat thing. Hell these guys in there shed an awful light on overclockers. Anyways, informal was that all the information of that first part? Unfortunately I can only watch but not listen since I'm at work, so every bit of info is welcome :D

[massman]

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/petri.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/63-2.jpg

4 cores ... yey:)

[G0ldBr1ck]

Pete: "Random allocation of the chips,not cherry picked in any particular way".
They mentioned 4GHz on air,but i didn't catch voltage value for that clock.

1.54v

[Tiridum]

should it be possible to see a 7Ghz in the near future?
6.5GHz seems plausible, but 7ghz would be awesome

[informal]

@malice85

More or less,yes.But the vid was interrupted at some point,while Sampsa and Macci spoke.Massman posted a few shots as can be seen :D

Thanks massman,the 6.313Ghz across all 4 cores is a new bit of info :D.Now we can shut up all of those who said AMD disabled cores :yepp:


1.54v

Thanks, 14% above stock Vcore :D.This thing is gonna rock!

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

amd with the 100% OC!

[Aerwidh]

Too bad the chat was clogged up by people screaming about GTA4 and drivers, it caused major lag for me... :down:

Nice to see a 3D stable Phenom II at 6 GHz, though :D

[ubuntu83]

amd with the 100% OC!

on a 3Ghz Quad Core @ LN2 with temperatures of -180C

[flopper]

Just that my i7 platform just suck now since Intel cant get 6ghz on common chips.
;)

[Calmatory]

on a 3Ghz Quad Core @ LN2 with temperatures of -180C

Point being? :)

Let's wait till the 1.6 GHz parts arrive and we can talk. ;)


should it be possible to see a 7Ghz in the near future?
6.5GHz seems plausible, but 7ghz would be awesome

Near being? Possibly tops at 6.5-6.8, depending on how well the higher clocks scale with vCore. 2.2V and cherry picked CPU with finely tweaked BIOS could possibly get near 6.6-6.9 GHz. I doubt it though.

[Macadamia]

31.5x :rofl:

I'll see it later on Youtube or something.

[massman]

Thanks massman,the 6.313Ghz across all 4 cores is a new bit of info :D.Now we can shut up all of those who said AMD disabled cores :yepp:

Had to press 'print screen' really fast for that one :p:

Anyway, we now know that it's actually running at such low temperatures, no cores were disabled and that these processors are not cherry picked as they were picked from a random stash of cpu's and apparently someone from the crowd had to pick the cpu's that were benched.

Petri and Sampsa apparently hit the highest frequencies yet on an Phenom II :D.

[massman]

Btw, notice the really low HT link in that 6.3G screenie: only 1GHz!

[Dagalidis]

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7906/77681332py7.jpgHistory :D

[flippin_waffles]

/quit is all I can say regarding this chat thing. Hell these guys in there shed an awful light on overclockers. Anyways, informal was that all the information of that first part? Unfortunately I can only watch but not listen since I'm at work, so every bit of info is welcome :D


Bizare. If there was a physcial room full of trolls like that, there'd be chaos! I'd be sure to jump in too, and make sure a few walked away with a couple split lips.

I hope they put up a video on demand of that event. I was getting around 1 frame every second or two. :( Could have been my siht sattelite internet too though I guess!

[Shintai]

With the low HT speed you would assume the NB speed is just as low.

[lukija]

With the low HT speed you would assume the NB speed is just as low.

But it has 4 cores running instead of one ;)

[Dagalidis]

:clap:They also Confrim that Phenom II Platform gives double min frame rates at 3D benches than i7 Platform..... :shocked::shocked:

Also MAX frame rates are EQUAL with i7 platform..... :up::up:

They Compare CPU Platforms and NOT CHIPSETS - VGAs....:up:

I hope is true,,,,,, :clap:

[Neuuubeh]

Looks too good to be true :O :up:
I've always wanted to have an AMD system :D

[massman]

:clap:They also Confrim that Phenom II Platform gives double min frame rates at 3D benches than i7 Platform..... :shocked::shocked:

Not sure if it really is double, but it's already good news they are coming close to the i7 performance :)

[Calmatory]

But it has 4 cores running instead of one ;)

Don't be so mean! :ROTF:

[BrowncoatGR]

With the low HT speed you would assume the NB speed is just as low.

Well NB can be >= than HT, so not necessarily. I'd would make sense though, since highest possible clock ws their goal.

[Dagalidis]

Now i cant imagine what a dual CPU with same 45nm process can do..
My E8400 run stable at 4400 - 4500 on air...
Lets hope AMD can do better. :up:

[Monstru]

The broadcast was such a blast....I'm not talking about the results, from what I have senn the chips clock really high, and taking into consideration that full LN2 pot, the cold bug is not a problem. So the results are great. But talking about the broadcast again....if you ask me it was something like this...

The broadcast is announced.....the horde of ATI fans that desperately want the 8.12 FINAL and GTA IV patch now start their assault over the poor chat room. People are preparing to show the Dragon platform at 6GHz with no CB, but the horde screams for the precious 8.12. So the broadcast begins...My o my..nice results....We see the live event, we see the nice results....and then 4 people sitting on a couch (SF3D, Sampsa, etc) and the moderator....and they look at the camera....and nobody speaks.....Finnaly the talk show starts, and ....there is an awfull lag between the voice and the image....So...the fans start shouting and crying on the forum. The chat mod, obviously an IT genius, goes to the rescue, so he bans half of the ATI fans fron the chat....And of course, the broadcast stops...:shakes:

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

on a 3Ghz Quad Core @ LN2 with temperatures of -180C

WOW AND INTEL CANT DO IT!!! haven't seen i7 do that yet with its top tier processor.

[Morais]

Yeah it was quite funny, like 50 people got banned in 5 seconds, including massman lol

[Blaber]

Admin was on banning spree lol , and video was all chopped up, but I did see the 6.3ghz cpu-z shot , Hurray AMD!

[Movieman]

Lets keep this thread on a positive note if we can ok guys?
Looks like AMD has a winner.
I'm going to the Boston viewing this friday.


( stops and waits for hearts to stop on that one!):rofl:

[massman]

Lets keep this thread on a positive note if we can ok guys?
Looks like AMD has a winner.
I'm going to the Boston viewing this friday.


( stops and waits for hearts to stop on that one!):rofl:

If you have one, please show up in an Intel related t-shirt :D

[Macadamia]

^
He has an Intel coat, just nice :rotf:


But really. Imagine 3 months ago, this news would have been laughed and ridiculed at. :D

[mongoled]

Gotta give AMD some credit, not a peep of info before Barcelona was released. now you can't keep them quite.

I hope to not be DEVASTATED this time. :p:

I'll be watching the vid for sure! :up:
Well AMD must be doing something right, not seen you post for a while

:p:

Great to see the 'real' XS members posting positively in an AMD thread, way to go.

JAWS | Administrator | Join Date: Nov 2001

:D

Things are looking very rosy, will be a lot of fun seeing peeps at XS benching AMD again, hopefully they will be close enough to the competing products to make things interesting

:cool:

Fun reading, we will all stay tuned

[D-Cyph3r]

Some early retail results here: Clicky (http://www.custompc.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=309578&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30)

Nice idle temps. ;)

[Movieman]

If you have one, please show up in an Intel related t-shirt :D

I do have a coat with Intel logo on it but I wouldn't wear that to an AMD event. Classless and rude IMO.
I try to keep an open mind on all of this stuff and to be honest, whatever does the most work in the least amount of time in Aids and cancer research is what I will run.
As of today the intels almost double the AMD's in terms of the work done.
BUT as I said, an open mind, and I want to see for myself..:up:

[Spacemaster]

What about numbers of benchmarks, such as spi1m, spi32m, 3DM 06, any WR breaks? Overclock is amazing, but score numbers are more interesting to me, than max clock. I have Intel P4 65nm that can do spi1m at 6.5 GHz with LN2, but time can not compare with C2D at 4GHz. So when we can se numbers of benchmark that enthusiasts use with subzero setups?

[clonez]

wow, this looks great :eek:
more game benchies @ 3.5-4 ghz, pleeeease :D

looks like amd will get some of my money in january...

edit: does anybody know more about idle power consumption (and is able to tell)? those temps make me hope....

[gallag]

Any numbers yet? Or just same old stuff repeated? Dont get me wrong, There is nothing negative about the oc, In fact it is sweeeeet, but it is the same news we have had for the last few weeks, Anything new?

[Macadamia]

Any numbers yet? Or just same old stuff repeated? Dont get me wrong, There is nothing negative about the oc, In fact it is sweeeeet, but it is the same news we have had for the last few weeks, Anything new?

The min frame - i7 thing (I think it's pretty much BS though.)
They mentioned similar average framerates compared to the i7 too.



Everybody legal is gagged, so most of the attention whores have resorted to giving out fake infos and benchmarks. The Opteron is a good reference point but so far there isn't much real benchmark info at all.


Oh, and benchmarks will pop up on the 20th of December. :)

[Chad Boga]

Bizare. If there was a physcial room full of trolls like that, there'd be chaos! I'd be sure to jump in too, and make sure a few walked away with a couple split lips.
Are you that rough a kisser?

[flippin_waffles]

You're invited to find out.. :D

[gallag]

get a room guys:D


The min frame - i7 thing (I think it's pretty much BS though.)
They mentioned similar average framerates compared to the i7 too.



Everybody legal is gagged, so most of the attention whores have resorted to giving out fake infos and benchmarks. The Opteron is a good reference point but so far there isn't much real benchmark info at all.


Oh, and benchmarks will pop up on the 20th of December. :)

Thanks for the info man.

[soundood]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Smiley.svg/600px-Smiley.svg.png

[gallag]

Why are you so upset soundood? I thought this would have made you happy.

[G-UNIT91]

why I see the same video?:(

[Rammsteiner]

With the low HT speed you would assume the NB speed is just as low.
Why would you assume that. It's completely undepended of each other and in some cases the CPU does OC better with low HT link, but same cant be said about low NB speed. Maybe the NB ran at the same speed, but it wouldnt have made a difference, pretty much irrelevant really:confused:

[Tiridum]

it is looping now, after a ati stream expert session

[initialised]

wow, this looks great :eek:
more game benchies @ 3.5-4 ghz, pleeeease :D

looks like amd will get some of my money in january...

edit: does anybody know more about idle power consumption (and is able to tell)? those temps make me hope....http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6383/phenomii260htkd6.jpg
3.64GHz, 22C Idle, it was cold today though, limit was 3.8 but that was at the same max HT as a 4200+ so probably the board not the CPU, CPU-z is misreading it as a 940, actually was a 920. Still waiting for a 940 and it's unlocked multiplier.

[G0ldBr1ck]

3.64GHz, 22C Idle, it was cold today though, limit was 3.8 but that was at the same max HT as a 4200+ so probably the board not the CPU, CPU-z is misreading it as a 940, actually was a 920. Still waiting for a 940 and it's unlocked multiplier.

Nice to see the 920 clocking just as well.......thanks for the info :up:

[initialised]

Google shopping came up with this, I couldn't get to the actual product page, price is equivalent to i7 920.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/3098738192_df88772cff_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/3098000357_3d32954101_o.jpg

Link to vendor: http://www.google.co.uk/product_url?q=http://www.micro-logic.com/go.asp%3Fic%3DINMB960483&fr=ABA1iqiT5Qqz_W-1O2n8_erZrf4iYm9ViNYBQJADQA-qYmCVkHc1an6Vnn_VN3qb8jeq0_2Rvqwc5fpZV8SvrfMPy3d5X 7mxpHsJBcCST458iazi3IKyYz5RqimRGCIWSQAAAAAAAAAA&gl=uk&hl=en&sa=title

[Koekerwauz_NL]

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/63-2.jpg[/IMG]

4 cores ... yey:)

I've looked at the video some times now especially the benching part.
The voltage set for 6,3Ghz is from what i've seen is 1,963 Volt.

When the guy sets 6,0Ghz you see shortly that he moves the mouse to core 0 and that he sets the multiplyer. the box where you can set -copy to all cores- is off. So in my view they only aply it to one core. For the move to 6,1Ghz he uses core 1 to get the clock.

All i what to say is get me some decent air benches
But nomather what i'll be getting a 940

[TurboDiv]

The whole world just wants 1M Super Pi at around 3.5 or 3.8Ghz. Whoever posted that screen (@ initialised). Can you post a 1M Super pI, you have it on the desktop ! Thanks. ;)

[Spacemaster]

The whole world just wants 1M Super Pi at around 3.5 or 3.8Ghz. Whoever posted that screen (@ initialised). Can you post a 1M Super pI, you have it on the desktop ! Thanks. ;)

Now we talking :up:

[initialised]

The whole world just wants 1M Super Pi at around 3.5 or 3.8Ghz. Whoever posted that screen, Can you post a 1M Super pI, you have it on the desktop ! Thanks. ;)I believe it's in the pics folder, I'll have to check the NDA first.

[donitsi]

3.64GHz, 22C Idle, it was cold today though, limit was 3.8 but that was at the same max HT as a 4200+ so probably the board not the CPU, CPU-z is misreading it as a 940, actually was a 920. Still waiting for a 940 and it's unlocked multiplier.

Cpu-z spefication in the picture says it's 920 :shrug: :D ;)

[gallag]

When the guy sets 6,0Ghz you see shortly that he moves the mouse to core 0 and that he sets the multiplyer. the box where you can set -copy to all cores- is off. So in my view they only aply it to one core. For the move to 6,1Ghz he uses core 1 to get the clock.


Is this true?

[Rammsteiner]

Dont know, my AOD had this aweomse feature not to show when I selected a box or not. So it was a last minute show whether all cores were set or not:rolleyes: Seriously, my AOD on DFI board wouldnt like save anything. Couldnt even use ACC and NB clocking/Voltages:rolleyes:

Then again, BIOS is the way to go anyway:p:

[T_Flight]

[QUOTE]

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/63-2.jpg

4 cores ... yey:)


I've looked at the video some times now especially the benching part.
The voltage set for 6,3Ghz is from what i've seen is 1,963 Volt.

When the guy sets 6,0Ghz you see shortly that he moves the mouse to core 0 and that he sets the multiplyer. the box where you can set -copy to all cores- is off. So in my view they only aply it to one core. For the move to 6,1Ghz he uses core 1 to get the clock.

All i what to say is get me some decent air benches
But nomather what i'll be getting a 940


Holy suicidal destruct-o-core! :eek: 2v?!?? Why not just stick a molex connector in the back of the CPU socket? That's rediculous. :ROTF:

[G0ldBr1ck]

[QUOTE=Koekerwauz_NL;3489963]




Holy suicidal destruct-o-core! :eek: 2v?!?? Why not just stick a molex connector in the back of the CPU socket? That's rediculous. :ROTF:

We have been hearing about 1.9v OC's for a week now. the 3.9 on air was at 1.54 and somone that was there said the AMD guy stated that was well within Denebs safe limit. With that the 1.9 doesnt sound that rediculous.

Edit: Whats the deal with the quote buton all the sudden? broken?

[Koekerwauz_NL]

Is this true?

check the video and see for your self.

rechecked it myself it appears to be 2 cores are set

90558

[kir4]

well yes he used core 0 for 6GHz and core 1 for the next step: 6,1GHz, would that mean 2 out of 4 cores where at +6Ghz?
And y did CPU-Z show the 6100Mhz after he set the core-1 multi to 6,1 GHz without changing the Core in cpu-z? or did he?
It always shows Core#0 at CPU-Z. so if he only changed Core-Multi-1 y should CPU-Z show Core#0 at 6,1GHz and not still 6,0GHz
I hope u get what i mean .. kinda hard to explain for me sry..
so maybe this was for all 4 cores? AOD bug?

[Eson]

Whats up with that core 3 voltage, 0.9V? 0.8V?

Ah, 800Mhz.

[ToTTenTranz]

So can these Phenom II clock their cores independently or not?
This could be a very good thing, we could have 2 higher-clocked cores for "hard work" and 2 lower-clocked cores for backup. This way we could allow higher clocks\less heat\less consumption for the CPU and have a boost on single\dual-threaded applications.

Better that this is only having Cool'n'Quiet working independently for each core.

[G0ldBr1ck]

So can these Phenom II clock their cores independently or not?
This could be a very good thing, we could have 2 higher-clocked cores for "hard work" and 2 lower-clocked cores for backup. This way we could allow higher clocks\less heat\less consumption for the CPU and have a boost on single\dual-threaded applications.

Better that this is only having Cool'n'Quiet working independently for each core.

I would say thats a yes, The 65nm phenoms clock independently by multi's.

[Movieman]

Get's out the damned scratchy wool mod Hat
Gentlemen;
Can we keep this friendly please and just enjoy AMD's new powerhouse whether it's 1,2 or 4 cores?
Let us all enjoy their accomplishment and learn about it as friends ok?
Yea, I know, that sounds corny as all hell but it's the truth.
Let's have some fun together and see what this beast has inside it.
Thanks for reading.

[charged3800z24]

Get's out the damned scratchy wool mod Hat
Gentlemen;
Can we keep this friendly please and just enjoy AMD's new powerhouse whether it's 1,2 or 4 cores?
Let us all enjoy their accomplishment and learn about it as friends ok?
Yea, I know, that sounds corny as all hell but it's the truth.
Let's have some fun together and see what this beast has inside it.
Thanks for reading.

Sounds reasonable enough...this has been an exciting year with tech so far...next year might be just as fun...reasons why compition is good...

[Jazzman]

Get's out the damned scratchy wool mod Hat
Gentlemen;
Can we keep this friendly please and just enjoy AMD's new powerhouse whether it's 1,2 or 4 cores?
Let us all enjoy their accomplishment and learn about it as friends ok?
Yea, I know, that sounds corny as all hell but it's the truth.
Let's have some fun together and see what this beast has inside it.
Thanks for reading.

Thank You Movieman! BTW, Enjoy the Boston show. :D

[Donnie27]

Get's out the damned scratchy wool mod Hat
Gentlemen;
Can we keep this friendly please and just enjoy AMD's new powerhouse whether it's 1,2 or 4 cores?
Let us all enjoy their accomplishment and learn about it as friends ok?
Yea, I know, that sounds corny as all hell but it's the truth.
Let's have some fun together and see what this beast has inside it.
Thanks for reading.

Way to go, please keep up the great work:clap: I've been following the thread and have gotten quite a bit out of it.

[Uberbob102000]

I'm looking forward to this launch, hopefully AMD can get some good stuff out and I can build another rig. :D

[macci]

the settings were applied to all CPU cores (note the "Copy to all CPUs" part that is selected). the tool is modifying the P-state 0&1 parameters (= CPU Multiplier (FID), CPU Voltage (VID) etc).

the old-school guy (= Pete) preferred the classic P-state tool while Team Finland (Sampsa&SF3D) used AMD OverDrive for Overclocking.

[justapost]

the settings were applied to all CPU cores (note the "Copy to all CPUs" part that is selected). the tool is modifying the P-state 0&1 parameters (= CPU Multiplier (FID), CPU Voltage (VID) etc).

the old-school guy (= Pete) preferred the classic P-state tool while Team Finland (Sampsa&SF3D) used AMD OverDrive for Overclocking.
Thank you for the info macci.
Is this tool available for public use? Can it make use of the other three p-state registers?

[macci]

Thank you for the info macci.
Is this tool available for public use? Can it make use of the other three p-state registers?
the public tool that allows adjustment of those parameters (and more) is AMD OverDrive.

the rest of the Pstates are used by CoolNQuiet automatically.

[justapost]

the rest of the Pstates are used by CoolNQuiet automatically.
Must explain abit more what i mean't. K10's have five p-state registers but use only two of them. Is it possible to use the other three states or is the number of usable p-states locked? In the past I tried to modify all the pci and msr registers related to p-states i coud find but only p-states 0 and 1 where selectable. I assumed it had to do with CPI tables not beeing updated and those are used by the CnQ drivers. It's like that under linux.
Would be nice to utilize a third p-state for a turbo like configuration.

[G0ldBr1ck]

the settings were applied to all CPU cores (note the "Copy to all CPUs" part that is selected). the tool is modifying the P-state 0&1 parameters (= CPU Multiplier (FID), CPU Voltage (VID) etc).

the old-school guy (= Pete) preferred the classic P-state tool while Team Finland (Sampsa&SF3D) used AMD OverDrive for Overclocking.

Thanks for clarifying that. some people were actually starting to get exited thinking all 4 cores couldn't OC that high. go figure :shrug:

[informal]

Thanks for clarifying that. some people were actually starting to get exited thinking all 4 cores couldn't OC that high. go figure :shrug:

Some people are working real hard to find anything wrong with either Phenom II or these OCing events.Go figure that :confused:


the settings were applied to all CPU cores (note the "Copy to all CPUs" part that is selected). the tool is modifying the P-state 0&1 parameters (= CPU Multiplier (FID), CPU Voltage (VID) etc).

the old-school guy (= Pete) preferred the classic P-state tool while Team Finland (Sampsa&SF3D) used AMD OverDrive for Overclocking.

Thanks for clarification macci.:up:
So it's settled,the OC was done across all 4 cores.

[LowRun]

the settings were applied to all CPU cores (note the "Copy to all CPUs" part that is selected). the tool is modifying the P-state 0&1 parameters (= CPU Multiplier (FID), CPU Voltage (VID) etc).

the old-school guy (= Pete) preferred the classic P-state tool while Team Finland (Sampsa&SF3D) used AMD OverDrive for Overclocking.

Thank you for making that clear for everyone. Hope you will have some time in the near future to really torture some of those PhII and post some results here on XS like in the good old days, that would bring back a little of that spirit that started to fade away when guys like you and OPPAINTER got busy and had to back off.

[mongoled]

Thank you for making that clear for everyone. Hope you will have some time in the near future to really torture some of those PhII and post some results here on XS like in the good old days, that would bring back a little of that spirit that started to fade away when guys like you and OPPAINTER got busy and had to back off.

:worship::worship: OPPAINTER :worship::worship: true legend.............

Wonder if Macci know of OPPs where abouts, would be great to see him posting here again

:yepp:

[LowRun]

:worship::worship: OPPAINTER :worship::worship: true legend.............

Wonder if Macci know of OPPs where abouts, would be great to see him posting here again

:yepp:

Great??? Damn! That would be like :party:

[spursindonesia]

Thanks for clarifying that. some people were actually starting to get exited thinking all 4 cores couldn't OC that high. go figure :shrug:

Yeah, it seems that they find so much joy if they can find an opportunity to rain on AMD's parade this time, no matter how lame it is. :down:

[misteroadster]

I'm really happy to see AMD coming Back, maybe i'll be back too :)

[Koekerwauz_NL]

the settings were applied to all CPU cores (note the "Copy to all CPUs" part that is selected). the tool is modifying the P-state 0&1 parameters (= CPU Multiplier (FID), CPU Voltage (VID) etc).

the old-school guy (= Pete) preferred the classic P-state tool while Team Finland (Sampsa&SF3D) used AMD OverDrive for Overclocking.

thx for clearing things up Macci. It's beter to know then to guess:)
Great to see the potential of the PII.

[Rammsteiner]

OM NOM NOM NOM,

readying up mobo for PhII clockrage

OM NOM NOM:D

[tictac]

Phenom II X4 @ +6 GHz by Team Finland :up:

Link:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=210707

[Rammsteiner]

Phenom II X4 @ +6 GHz by Team Finland :up:

Link:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=210707
But NO!!! That's impossible, only one core enabled. Actually it's just an i7 and SB750 is gimmick...

Oh wait:ROTF:

Anyway, on topic again, very nice result! Also good to see that actually all CPU's tested could do that:up: Now... stop hijacking all those PhII's from us and send them back to the shops so I can get one soon:D

[Ashraf]

Thread cleaned. This is not about AMD vs Intel. Please stay on topic.

And what Movieman said.


Get's out the damned scratchy wool mod Hat
Gentlemen;
Can we keep this friendly please and just enjoy AMD's new powerhouse whether it's 1,2 or 4 cores?
Let us all enjoy their accomplishment and learn about it as friends ok?
Yea, I know, that sounds corny as all hell but it's the truth.
Let's have some fun together and see what this beast has inside it.
Thanks for reading.

[tictac]

Youtube video.. AMD Deneb 6GHz.. :party:

COngrats to Team Finland :up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eopyFVWYjdo

[Dragy2k]

very nice...great to see AMD making waves again....cant wait

[tictac]

Ok Hosted in youtube..

AMD Phenom II Demo

San Fransisco
5th December 2008
1) AMD "Dragon" Overclocked to 6.3GHz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuX58RAiIcw

2) AMD Phenom II Overclocked to 6.3GHz, S.F. Event, 12-5-08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X__HTuQ1CA

Chicago
9th December 2008
1) AMD Phenom II Runs Crysis Time Demo at 6GHz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPDAL6BH_RU

2) AMD Phenom II, 3.9GHz Air-Cooled, 6.3GHz Liquid, Chicago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b248iTbplag

Enjoy the video... :party:

[msimax]

the world is about to end:rofl: amd gave me another reason to remain loyal to the brand

[Donnie27]

very nice...great to see AMD making waves again....cant wait

Same thing you do before you drown :lol:! No honestly, this is good news!

[flippin_waffles]

Same thing you do before you drown :lol:! No honestly, this is good news!

Or swimming the 100m freestyle. :lol:! Your right, this is good news!

[Lightman]

Very nice videos!

I just hope next event like that will be hosted in Europe. I think we buy more AMD than US, so we deserve an event like that as well. ;)

Besides, Finnish overclokers are much closer :p:

[flopper]

Its interesting how big a jump it been for amd from 65nm to 45nm.
65nm 3ghz+ with some real ahrd ehaded cooling and with 45nm it just runs so much better.
20% improvement in clocks isnt that much to go for but 4 cores run 4ghz+ even on air is really good.

the silicon/metal they use for the chips most be different from 65 to 45nm?

[leoy]

http://oktabit.foracamp.gr/files/CPUZ_6020_logo.jpg

http://oktabit.foracamp.gr/content/first-look-phenom-ii-x4-940-english-version?page=6

[malice85]

ahm wow, the voltage is rather low isn't it? nice stuff @oktabit! ;)

[AbelJemka]

Multimeter vltage is higher so i suppose better trust multimeter than Cpu-Z :p:

[informal]

Oktabit for the win! :up: :D Almost caught up with team AMD :cool:
Nicely done dread77,you guys verified no coldbug on retail CPU :up:. Seems HT link speed is crucial for those 6+Ghz runs.What northbridge clock did you guys run while cores ran at 6Ghz?I assume you could go higher than def. 2Ghz or you left it at default?

Once again,great OCing oktabit :up:

[Hornet331]

Multimeter vltage is higher so i suppose better trust multimeter than Cpu-Z :p:

i take multimeter reading any day over cpu-z or any other onboard readings. :yepp:

[BrowncoatGR]

theboard is vmodded so obviously multimeter is correct(it would have been anyway).

[Sampsa]

Great! :up:

[Eson]

What multimeter voltage? All i can see is Celsius. What voltage at 6GHz?

[informal]

What multimeter voltage? All i can see is Celsius. What voltage at 6GHz?

It should be around 1.85/1.9V.