Foxconn Avenger Photos - Review

[Unseen]

Hi guys,

I just received a Foxconn Avenger sample (thanks Greta). At the moment i am waiting some D9GTS memories to play with. Hopefully in the middle of the week i will post the first results. But for the moment take a look some photos
I cant say anything yet, but the components foxconn used in this mobo is top quality. Capacitors are really huge, short lines, backplate for the heatsinks, screws and no push pins etc. I hope that this chip which connects the two pcie will do its job.



CPU Optimized for Interl® 45nm processors,Intel®Core™2 Extreme,Core™2 Quad,Core™2 Duo

Chipset Interl® P45 & ICH10R

FSB 1600/1333/1066/800 MHZ

Memory Dual DDR3 2000(oc)/1600/1333/800MHZ,4*DIMMs,8GB Max

Storage RAID,Intel® MST,6*SATALL,2*eSATA,2*1394a,12*USB2.0,1*ATA133

Slots 2*PCle2.0x16,3*PCle2.0x1,2*PCl slots

Network Dual Gigabit LAN

Audio SONAR Audio Card(7.1 High Definition Audio)

Based on the Intel® P45 chipset with ICH10R southbridge
Supports latest Intel 45nm processors up to FSB1600MHz
Supports CrossFireX™ with 2* x16 bandwidth
Dual Channel DDR3 2000(oc)MHz
8 phase Digital PWM provides more robust power delivery, standing up to the demands of enthusiasts and overclockers
2 phase Memory Power for higher clock speeds and greater stability
Bundled QF Panel for quick & easy overclocking from case-mounted 5 1/4" drive bay device (optional)
Quantum BIOS for unrivalled fine-tuning and OC operation
SONAR Audio – 7.1 channel HDA daughter card with 106db SNR
Twin BIOS enables easy re-flashing and guards against BIOS loss
100% SOLID Capacitor design and Ferrite Choke power delivery ensure a stable basis for overclocking and increased reliability
Quantum Flow and Quantum Lap unique accessories

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Nice manual... Like a book.
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Dual bios
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temperature sensor
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Digital mosfets
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chipset
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[Unseen]

Today i had some free time to play with my toys after long time absense.
I started with the insulation. First time i am using this kneaded rubber material and i have to say that i am impressed!
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4301/hpim3765zt8.jpg

Two pots in action
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First 2D results.
http://xs434.xs.to/xs434/08516/spi1m481.jpg (http://xs.to)
http://xs434.xs.to/xs434/08516/wprime32615.jpg (http://xs.to)
http://xs434.xs.to/xs434/08516/wprime1024186.jpg (http://xs.to)
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/118/620fsbri8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/620fsbri8.jpg/1/w887.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img529/620fsbri8.jpg/1/)

The processor is lemon... i tested it in a different mobo with the same results.
Not bad for a p45 mobo i think. The issue with the memories is known to foxconn enginners and as far as i know they are working on it.
Next time i will test the crossfire chip to see how it performs :)

[Ming@s]

It looks very robust.

[quake6]

Awesome,where did you get it?

[jason4207]

Did you get the:

"Bundled QF Panel for quick & easy overclocking from case-mounted 5 1/4" drive bay device (optional)"

?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to this quetion, but, there isn't a serial connection on this board is there?. I can't wait to buy mine! looking forward to your results :yepp:

[Unseen]

@quake6
As i said in my 1st post it is a sample from the manufacturer.

@jason4207
This is a sample.Not from the complete production line. Unfortunately the panel is missing.

[Jor3lBR]

Yes but will it be able to do better then this: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3409265&postcount=233 and almost 5000Mhz with a Q9650?

I hardly doubt it. But the board looks slick and beautiful if it costs less then $99 I will get one.

[Utnorris]

I cannot imagine this board being less than $99. It's not a budget board.

[Jor3lBR]

I cannot imagine this board being less than $99. It's not a budget board.

Yeah I know the competition (UD3P) set a really high standard at that price.

[Oliver]

this board is crazy, u can 4 sure see the quality of the build

thx for posting

[HDCHOPPER]

verry nice looking board hope it clocks like hell for you :up:

[Unseen]

Update :)

first results in second post!

[quake6]

Pretty good,but I want higher FSB... I can achieved 600 with BO

[OdinEidolon]

Did you get the:

"Bundled QF Panel for quick & easy overclocking from case-mounted 5 1/4" drive bay device (optional)"

?

i quote jason. quickly googled and found that that control panel seems to be VERY interesting. Monitoring bios infos and changing clocks without the slightest use of the processor power. anyone knows how much the board will cost? i bet around 140$

[OdinEidolon]

could you get some pics of it running so that we can see the leds?

http://www.quantum-force.net/news/N000000023/

[screwtech02]

The Aussie sites that have this board listed, have it going over $200 us.... And, it's still probably 2 months out anyways....:shakes:

[Unseen]

Hi guys,

Unfortunately i don't know the price yet, but don't expect to be in 99$ range. The quality of parts is high ;)

Another thing that i didnt mention before is that the power mosfets are realy realy cool. Not even warm.
I dont understand why to be honest. Probably is a new technology or sth... At 5400@wprime1024 the temperature was ~30c degrees :)

And at last i wanna say that this cpu in avenger went ~80-90mhz more (benchable) with 0,08v less compared to Biostar I45 Tpower.


@Odin Yes it has many bling bling lights and you can configure them through aegis panel. What i did was to disable all :D

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

too bad this board wont be out till jan 10th at the earliest... probably not readily available until a few weeks later

[saaya]

wee, the package sure looks m3ssed up, good job fedex :D

the board should actually be available already, but there was very low demand for a high end p45 board this late :(
and price should be 250$...
the digital pwm and the plx chip...

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

wee, the package sure looks m3ssed up, good job fedex :D

the board should actually be available already, but there was very low demand for a high end p45 board this late :(
and price should be 250$...
the digital pwm and the plx chip...

like, where is it?

http://www.google.com/products?q=p45+avenger&btnG=Search+Products&hl=en

[werty316]

Nice looking board & I like the location of the 8-pin connector.

[Crazystang01]

Yeah where is this board? There are still some that would like to pick it up. Myself included.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Yeah where is this board? There are still some that would like to pick it up. Myself included.

I would have bought it, but I have already commited to my DFI with waterblocks. Its a shame really that it took so long for this.... I really couldve used the 16x16 pcie :(

[Crazystang01]

Right man I am in the same boat as you (well you were in ) I do have a Black ops atm. But want something to push my E8600 and my Tri-Fire harder. Besides the cpu you have Sniipe_Dogg we were going to have about the same set up even the memory CSX 4GB. Maybe I can get saaya to sent me an Avenger;);). Naw Saaya just tell me where to buy it. Lol

[OdinEidolon]

wee, the package sure looks m3ssed up, good job fedex :D

the board should actually be available already, but there was very low demand for a high end p45 board this late :(
and price should be 250$...
the digital pwm and the plx chip...

:shocked: ouch i was thinking to buy it... but heck 250 bucks is quite expensive. EU price yet?

[Vatos_locos]

i like this board :p: i want it :D
nice results

[screwtech02]

Right man I am in the same boat as you (well you were in ) I do have a Black ops atm. But want something to push my E8600 and my Tri-Fire harder. Besides the cpu you have Sniipe_Dogg we were going to have about the same set up even the memory CSX 4GB. Maybe I can get saaya to sent me an Avenger;);). Naw Saaya just tell me where to buy it. Lol

I would also like to know "where" to purchase this board...... Aside from all the "sample's", one would have to "assume" its just a "myth"....:shakes:

[Unseen]

Few days ago i spotted this mobo in newegg which is identical but with ddr2 :confused:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186153&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Intel-_-FOXCONN-_-13186153

[Vatos_locos]

typo or something ?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

the ELA has been out for months, unfortunately its bios is not designed for overclocking and it has only 8x8x8 crossfire, no 16x16 capability :\

[OdinEidolon]

i want this board avaiable now!!!
:D

[screwtech02]

BUMP for avail info?????:confused:

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

well supposedly the release is 1/20 but last time it was 12/20 so I think its more likely than not, a cancelled product.

[OdinEidolon]

BUMP for avail info?????:confused:

SAAAAAAAAYAAAA where are you? :p: dont evade our bumps!

[OdinEidolon]

well supposedly the release is 1/20 but last time it was 12/20 so I think its more likely than not, a cancelled product.

noo i want that board, hope its not cancelled. i am loving the design and the 5,25" control panel.

[screwtech02]

So, where is the rest of the "review"?? Hows this board handle 2 cards in crossfire?? How's it handle 8gb of ram??? What type of clocks will it do with a 45/65mm quad??? I STILL say this board is a myth, I have only seen like 4-5 pics of it on the net, and NO concrete reviews. The only thing about this board that is reliable is the "delays" in the release date....:shakes:

[Vatos_locos]

here is a Q9450 & 3D2k6 untweaked OS untweaked everything i'am still looking my max clocks on water so it's not a performance run for now
the bios is tricky it has
i hope for CF soon i'am waiting the other 4850 :)
also as Unseen said The issue with the memories is known to foxconn engineers and as far as i know they are working on it.
mined that gpu z says that the card runs @ 4x but cpuz says @ 16x i dont know what to believe :p but i havent found any option in the bios that controls that
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3429/3d2k615874am0.jpg

[screwtech02]

Wow, i guess i was hoping for a bit more....:shakes:

"Nuthin to see here folk's, please move along......." :shakes: :shakes: :shakes:

[Vatos_locos]

tell me what more do you want to see and i'll try :)
i'am not a hardcore bencher and the cpu is a quad retail and only on water
we shaw what she can do with C2D's with was the main propose of the board
the Crossfire was tested i thing from someone else on the other avenger thread but it's the same as X48
the delays i thing they are because of the "ram issue"

[Unseen]

So, where is the rest of the "review"?? Hows this board handle 2 cards in crossfire?? How's it handle 8gb of ram??? What type of clocks will it do with a 45/65mm quad??? I STILL say this board is a myth, I have only seen like 4-5 pics of it on the net, and NO concrete reviews. The only thing about this board that is reliable is the "delays" in the release date....:shakes:

Until Vatos_locos finish his test take a look here
http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=2766&highlight=avenger

[Vatos_locos]

here is one Pcmark with the Q9450 and now i think i have reached the cpu limit
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=1822869

[Slovnaft]

crank vtt and vnb
vnb 1.7-1.8, vtt to 1.5 (or maybe it was 1.5-1.6?), vcore to 1.45, pll (not that it matters much) to 1.71. that got me 8x550fsb on my Q9450 on EP45-UD3P, which is a good measure of a P45.
PS-on air.

[Vatos_locos]

i'll give it a shot :) the board has some issue she will not boot with high voltage on the NB as saaya told me and i don't think that i have so good cpu :p:

[systemviper]

Hi, I keep reading about the Foxconn
the delays i thing they are because of the "ram issue"


But i can't seem to find out what it is, can someone tell me what it is and does it effect the x58 bloodrage?

[Vatos_locos]

Slovnaft i'am sorry but it cant go higher than 3.9Ghz my cpu it boots @ 500x8 but no windows :) i'am sure it's the chip it did the same Mhz on an Ip35 Pro
systemviper she cant clock more than 1700 the ram so the dividers are not usable at the moment 1.2 and 1.3,2 works fine untill 1500~Mhz then she is not posting :)
as far i know blood rage has no problem with that i know benchzoner reached 2100+ Mhz

[BulldogPO]

What is latest bios for this POS board?
I'm having serious problems.
Sometimes board boots fine and sometimes not, pc beeber sounds beeep, BEEEP, beep and code differs every time on diagnostic display. And sometimes pc beeper is quiet and led display shows FF and screen stays black.
So it resets bios settings in about 80% of boot times.

[OdinEidolon]

where the heck did you all get this board from?????? :confused:

[Unseen]

What is latest bios for this POS board?
I'm having serious problems.
Sometimes board boots fine and sometimes not, pc beeber sounds beeep, BEEEP, beep and code differs every time on diagnostic display. And sometimes pc beeper is quiet and led display shows FF and screen stays black.
So it resets bios settings in about 80% of boot times.

try this one http://rapidshare.com/files/178008281/P452B10A.zip.html

Also set trtp above 15.

[Vatos_locos]

What is latest bios for this POS board?
I'm having serious problems.
Sometimes board boots fine and sometimes not, pc beeber sounds beeep, BEEEP, beep and code differs every time on diagnostic display. And sometimes pc beeper is quiet and led display shows FF and screen stays black.
So it resets bios settings in about 80% of boot times.

it happens to me if i use high dividers keep the mems low with tight timings and it will not do that :)

also with 4Gb ( 4x1 ) it works fine :)

[BenchZowner]

Hi, I keep reading about the Foxconn

But i can't seem to find out what it is, can someone tell me what it is and does it effect the x58 bloodrage?

It's what I like to call "The P45 DDR3 syndrome".
As some of you may recall there were some serious memory overclocking on some P45 DDR3 boards ( the Asus P5Q3 Deluxe for example ) and some that had problems clocking the memory within the first few weeks near & after the "public launch" of the boards, but then after a few BIOS releases they started overclocking the DDR3 RAM great, actually not just great, they were hitting DDR3-2100+ with flying colors :p:
Especially the Gigabyte EP45T-Extreme proved to be one of the best DDR3 RAM overclocking boards.
Some had some success with the P5Q3 Deluxe ( like hitting DDR3-2000 stable ) but some didn't even manage to get DDR3-1800 stable.
Looks like Asus didn't figure out what Gigabyte and DFI found out.

Let's wait for a new BIOS from Foxconn to see if the Avenger will start hitting high DDR3 frequencies or not.
Even if it won't, it can still be a good board for people that are not interested in hitting enormously high DDR3 speeds that they're not going to benefit from ( since they won't be benchmarking competitively or run heavily RAM throughput dependent scientific applications, etc ).


where the heck did you all get this board from?????? :confused:

They're beta testing samples & review samples, directly sent to some people by Foxconn.

[BulldogPO]

Yeah I did have that B10A allready.
There must be something in P45 as all other boards did also take long time to get DDR3 on high speeds like Benchzowner said, P5Q3 an Gigabyte GA-EP45T Extreme.
Damn but I`m angry for my self as I did have little water accident with my Extreme board and it did loose one memory channel.

[Vatos_locos]

I found another strange thing :p:

my board has the B10A at bios chip 2 and the first that came from foxconn at bios chip 1.
I was using the chip 1 with the older bios and i didn't got those reset all the time and 3.6Ghz with my Q9450 stable anything more was rubbish...

Then i said to give a go with the bios chip 2

indeed the newer bios ( bios chip2 ) clock's better i got 3.7Ghz Stable 8hr prime straight, but the B10A has the Clear/Reset on boot problem.

Almost all the time the board reset it self after the post code 50,then shut down - boot by itself C1 - shut's down again - A1 CMOS clear.

even at stock settings... :(
so foxconn combine those two bios :D

[Slovnaft]

If someone would send me this board, i'd be happy to test my 4.4ghz Q9450 (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=451631) on it, see whether it can handle a 550fsb quad :D

[MusicIsMyLife]

If someone would send me this board, i'd be happy to test my 4.4ghz Q9450 (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=451631) on it, see whether it can handle a 550fsb quad :D

Wow, great score! :up:

But wrong board.... :D

[BulldogPO]

Has anyone managed to go over 470MHz FSB with Quad on this board?

[BulldogPO]

I found another strange thing :p:

my board has the B10A at bios chip 2 and the first that came from foxconn at bios chip 1.
I was using the chip 1 with the older bios and i didn't got those reset all the time and 3.6Ghz with my Q9450 stable anything more was rubbish...

Then i said to give a go with the bios chip 2

indeed the newer bios ( bios chip2 ) clock's better i got 3.7Ghz Stable 8hr prime straight, but the B10A has the Clear/Reset on boot problem.

Almost all the time the board reset it self after the post code 50,then shut down - boot by itself C1 - shut's down again - A1 CMOS clear.

even at stock settings... :(
so foxconn combine those two bios :D

So it is bios fault?
I have excactly same thing.
Every frickin time I press reset or selecet restart from windows, screen satys black and nuthing happens. Only way to get over from this is play with PSU´s power button and reset putton like zillion times.
And when board agrees to boot it has cleared bios settings to default.

[Vatos_locos]

probably a bios bug or something it doesn't do it with the older bios i have in the other chip...
with Quad i didn't manage to go over 470 stable i can run prime forever at 465fsb but at 470 it is not stable at all...
i still can bench @ 475Mhz...

this is the max fsb i could post in windows but not stable http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=485903
i tried with x6, but the same fsb :/
my chip can do for sure 480FSB stable so it's the bios

sure it needs some tweaking from foxconn to clock quads better, fix the clear reboot, think and the memory oc

oh and those led around the board :p: it should be nice to have an option to let them on and not blinking
and the software is not so stable :p under Xp Sp3 and Vista Ultimate Sp1 every time it runs the board freezes :p:

[blindfitter]

Has anyone managed to go over 470MHz FSB with Quad on this board?

I can bench around 500fsb, have been benching the board this weekend with a Q8200 under water,
heres a taster,
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/blindfitter/19305.jpg

[Vatos_locos]

blindfitter give as your settings if you have some time :)

[blindfitter]

Here are the bios screens these are for the quads, dualies nb 1.41 will get you to 595+fsb


http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/blindfitter/DSCF0091-2.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/blindfitter/DSCF0092-1.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/blindfitter/DSCF0093-1.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/blindfitter/DSCF0094-1.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/blindfitter/DSCF0095-1.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/blindfitter/DSCF0096-1.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/blindfitter/DSCF0097-1.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/blindfitter/DSCF0098-2.jpg

[Vatos_locos]

thanks m8 :p
i will try some of those but still i see your board can clock your mems more than 800 mine can't do more than 750 :(

[BulldogPO]

So is there going to be new bios for this board at all?

[screwtech02]

Hell, id be surprised if it was even released.....:shakes:

[Vatos_locos]

i tried my old P4 630 to play a little more but the board couldn't boot at all :p

[Vatos_locos]

Big Problem now :/ i just cant get it boot with 4 sticks of ram....
it was working fine then i did a reboot and disaster
now it stucks @ post code 7F and if i press the reset button it beeps continuously @ post code 54
with tho sticks it boots but no with 4,
all 4 sticks are working perfectly and tested
so i need some help here

and is this board going to be on sale at all ? any bios progress ?

[BulldogPO]

Where is Saaya?
He can give us some answers..

[BenchZowner]

Saaya may be/is absent due to personal issues.
Last time we talked he told me that he'll be available on MSN more than he used to ( he can't get on MSN when at work, Foxconn's admins blocked MSN traffic ), I'm guessing that he's staying home for a while.

[screwtech02]

Well, here it is almost the middle of Feb, and still no release on the Avenger yet... Thought it was supposed to be the 20th of Jan, guess it depends on what DECADE your talking about....:shakes:

[Jor3lBR]

Well, here it is almost the middle of Feb, and still no release on the Avenger yet... Thought it was supposed to be the 20th of Jan, guess it depends on what DECADE your talking about....:shakes:

Sorry but why don't you guys get over this board and move on. Just make the math, even if it comes out it will cost 3 times more then others that already outperforms this one in every single comparison.

[Vatos_locos]

Well, here it is almost the middle of Feb, and still no release on the Avenger yet... Thought it was supposed to be the 20th of Jan, guess it depends on what DECADE your talking about....:shakes:

As saaya said to me the board is out already mail one of you dealers to get in touch with foxconn...

[blindfitter]

Big Problem now :/ i just cant get it boot with 4 sticks of ram....
it was working fine then i did a reboot and disaster
now it stucks @ post code 7F and if i press the reset button it beeps continuously @ post code 54
with tho sticks it boots but no with 4,
all 4 sticks are working perfectly and tested
so i need some help here

and is this board going to be on sale at all ? any bios progress ?

Hi,
Try these settings: 2.0v for mem, mem will go a bit more but looses stability.

Also I noticed, when adding memory sticks, or removing sticks, at first boot after this event, check bios voltage on memory as it automatically defaults to 1.64v, this caused a few problems for me! till I got to grips with it, also with 4 sticks it tkes more volts than 2 sticks about 0.1v more

Hope this helps

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/blindfitter/avenger4sticks.jpg

[Vatos_locos]

i wasn't able to play this time because of work so the computer was turned off most of the time and when i pused the power button it worked again with 4 sticks :p maybe the board needed sometime alone :p
anyways i stayed here now and waiting for the new bios...
my avenger can't do more than 1500 on the rams otherwise.

[Vatos_locos]

any updates with the bios ?

[screwtech02]

ROFL, this board isnt even availible in the USA, and you want bios updates????:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Nosfer@tu]

try this one http://rapidshare.com/files/178008281/P452B10A.zip.html

Also set trtp above 15.

Does anybody have this bios ?
I cant even find avenger on foxconn´s websites.

[BulldogPO]

Yep, also waiting for better bios...

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

considering that this board doesnt even exist as far as the retail market is concerned... I dont think a new BIOS would be in order

[screwtech02]

I guess there oughta actually be some SUPPLY, before there is any demand...:shakes::shakes::shakes:

[SoF]

Does anybody have this bios ?
I cant even find avenger on foxconn´s websites.

sorry for bumping this old topic but I would also be in need of the latest bios. I am currently testing the board and really liking it but I need to find a way for more FSB...