NaeKuh & Bei Fei's P6T-Deluxe Package

[NaeKuh]

Promised you guys would get better resolution pics.

Just got word jab-tech and sidewinders will be carrying these parts.

I have no idea how many bei will make, as i said he's not in the business, its all hobby.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_0132-1.jpg

Close up of mosfet block:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_0133.jpg

And yes its hardmounted with backplate:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_0134.jpg

I'll take the blocks apart later and give you guys internal shots.

[skinnee]

Only thing I don't like are the screws on the blocks...they should be countersunk screws.

[gillbot]

Depending on the top thickness, those might spread the load out better.

[twwen2]

Looking good Naekuh!

The design is nice and simple, copper+acetal. Enjoy the exclusivity while it lasts.:D

[NaeKuh]

bei is working on counter sinking right now...

as for restriction, using my ultra special scientific method, which requires me blowing into them, the mosfet isnt bad. Its actually pretty free flowing. Less restriction then a koolance QD per say.

The NB is a bit tad restrictive. Couldnt be helped because of the thinness required. Its not too bad tho, id say probably near par with a supreme.

[Polizei]

I like the screws like that... gives it an industrial look. As long as the screws don't interfere, I say leave 'em.

[Bei Fei]

I will be making two possible changes to the blocks.

1. Countersinking the screws
2. Adding a step on the NB block to raise the barbs. This will lessen the restriction which is due to the barbs being threaded into the block so far chocking them off.

[DarthBeavis]

you might put a couple LED holes in my clear tops ;)

also, tell me what size screws you use so i can get colored ones ;)

[NaeKuh]

you might put a couple LED holes in my clear tops ;)

also, tell me what size screws you use so i can get colored ones ;)

lolz...

if i still quotted id so grab that...

now dean is sending me my black derlin koolance 350 block to finish this setup. :up:

[Movieman]

I will be making two possible changes to the blocks.

1. Countersinking the screws
2. Adding a step on the NB block to raise the barbs. This will lessen the restriction which is due to the barbs being threaded into the block so far chocking them off.

Now when I saw Naekuh's name I had to come look.
Very nice and Mr. Bei Fei please take a bow for your excellent work!..:bows:

[NaeKuh]

Now when I saw Naekuh's name I had to come look.


:rofl:

i promise!! i wont break anything!!

[Movieman]

:rofl:

i promise!! i wont break anything!!

That wasn't my meaning..
When I saw your name I went " I wonder what he's up to now"
Figured maybe you bought one of these to tide you over till the dualie boards arrive:

http://www.supermicro.com/a_images/products/SuperBlade/w_bladerack_800x876.jpg

[JoeBar]

Now when I saw Naekuh's name I had to come look.
Very nice and Mr. Bei Fei please take a bow for your excellent work!..:bows:

Exactly! Great work guys...! :up:

[exe163]

Very nice set up, about how much will it cost? Since mobo cooling is hot required I might have to pass on this one :( (looks expansive just from the materials).

[Boogerlad]

http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=5214561&postcount=19
I thought that inductors made more heat??? Nice milled blocks though. Is it cnc milled?

[SiGfever]

That wasn't my meaning..
When I saw your name I went " I wonder what he's up to now"
Figured maybe you bought one of these to tide you over till the dualie boards arrive:

http://www.supermicro.com/a_images/products/SuperBlade/w_bladerack_800x876.jpg

Dave you know that he needs more horsepower. :eek: :ROTF:

[Eddie3dfx]

I think the screws and delrin look very nice.

[jollyjoker]

looks nice.

[cegras]

NaeKuh is certainly providing a ton of free publicity for Bei Fei.

I wonder how a unisink for the whole motherboard would look like .. would be cool to see an elevated part connecting mosfet and NB, but then you'd have to start with an ungodly large copper brick.

[skinnee]

I will be making two possible changes to the blocks.

1. Countersinking the screws
2. Adding a step on the NB block to raise the barbs. This will lessen the restriction which is due to the barbs being threaded into the block so far chocking them off.

Excellent!

Looks to be a very well designed and machined creation. :up: to you, Bei Fei!

[skinnee]

That wasn't my meaning..
When I saw your name I went " I wonder what he's up to now"
Figured maybe you bought one of these to tide you over till the dualie boards arrive:

http://www.supermicro.com/a_images/products/SuperBlade/w_bladerack_800x876.jpg


Dave you know that he needs more horsepower. :eek: :ROTF:

he needs it...pie chart. ->

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=90090&stc=1&d=1228343480

:D

[Planet]

you might put a couple LED holes in my clear tops ;)

also, tell me what size screws you use so i can get colored ones ;)

They look like M2.5 but dont take my word for it.

[dengyong]

These blocks raise the bar by a mile.

The word "IMPOSSIBLE" should be engraved on the top of every one.

[DarthBeavis]

These blocks will been seen by more eyes than Bei Fei can imagine . . .put your name on them if you want . . . .just as long as they look pimp . . .

[brewer265]

Is there a rough eta when these we be available?

[gillbot]

They look nice and all but where do you mount the fans?

[Movieman]

he needs it...pie chart. ->

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=90090&stc=1&d=1228343480

:D

Let's not go scaring poor Naekuh..
He's got more money than I do..:rofl:

[exe163]

They look nice and all but where do you mount the fans?

What?!:eek:

[SiGfever]

underneath the MB:up:

andyc

Exactly, we need to come up with a ducted blower to blanket the underside of the MB with cool air.

[gillbot]

underneath the MB:up:

andyc

:ROTF: :clap:

[smee]

They look nice and all but where do you mount the fans?

you see those little wholes? two on each block. You put a small, very small fan in each one, with one in push, and the other in pull. It's a new theory. :up:

Haha, just kidding. :D

Looks AWESOME Bei Fei and Naekuh!!!
Keep up the good work!

[Bei Fei]

fasteners are all 3mm

[gillbot]

you see those little wholes? two on each block. You put a small, very small fan in each one, with one in push, and the other in pull. It's a new theory. :up:

Haha, just kidding. :D

Looks AWESOME Bei Fei and Naekuh!!!
Keep up the good work!

I bet that would beat a true in push/pull! :rofl:

[Kayin]

Exactly, we need to come up with a ducted blower to blanket the underside of the MB with cool air.

Mithril is having the mobo tray cut for a pair of 120s. Some of us have been working on these ideas for a longass time. NaeKuh would probably be in that category.

[N19h7m4r3]

THANK you so much!

Because of this I'm actually considering buying a P6T now instead of the Rapmage.

Eddy from EK said it would be impossible, but this makes me want one so badly now :D

I hope he makes enough so that people in the EU can import some, I really want that now :)

[septim]

well increase airflow would probably also help that 2oz extra copper that newer Gigabyte mobo uses to cool down the mobo...

nothing is impossible with imagination and the right tools for the job...
some extra credit stashed away for R&D is also good...

[filthysanchez]

Kayin;3472789']Mithril is having the mobo tray cut for a pair of 120s. Some of us have been working on these ideas for a longass time. NaeKuh would probably be in that category.

Why not use a coolermaster crossflow fan? I know they're loud and don't push a lot of air, but the back of the motherboard isn't exactly something that's crucial to have airflow for.

[The-Fox]

Thanks NaeKuh, the blocks look superb !
I will be looking forward to them for my new P6T Deluxe M/B :D

[coolmiester]

you see those little wholes? two on each block. You put a small, very small fan in each one, with one in push, and the other in pull. It's a new theory. :up:

Haha, just kidding. :D


I got just the fan :ROTF:

http://www.coolercases.co.uk/atcs_840/sunon_tiny_fan.jpg

........sorry, couldn't resist :yawn:

[Kayin]

Why not use a coolermaster crossflow fan? I know they're loud and don't push a lot of air, but the back of the motherboard isn't exactly something that's crucial to have airflow for.

Also using the fans to backlight the board. I have a crossflow fan on hand for another project.

[SteveS]

I think the design is fantastic, if this came avalible for purchase I would most definitley order a set.

[smee]

I got just the fan :ROTF:

---

........sorry, couldn't resist :yawn:

HOLY CRAP, that is TINY!!!!!!! Where the crap did you find one that small??
I bet it moves air like an inch in front of it and is pretty loud. xD

[evilsponge]

Wow super work on those blocks and well Neakuh is Neakuh what can you say :)

-sponge

[DarthBeavis]

HOLY CRAP, that is TINY!!!!!!! Where the crap did you find one that small??


Another 'That is what she said' moment brought to you by Smee . . .offer not valid in all fifty states or where prohibited by law

[systemviper]

I love those bocks, great to see the direction this is gong, to bad it's so board limited.
Love to get something like that for the GIG

[NaeKuh]

well guys...

good news... :P

bei told me he was making 25 sets today. So obvious i think there going out to vendors.

Go bug gary and john now when there gonna have them in stock. :rofl:

[nikhsub1]

They look very nice. Except, IDK when I'm going to upgrade my rig. :(

[NaeKuh]

oh wow congrats on the XIP scott! about dayam time. :up:

[BlueAqua]

Will the mosfet block fit the R2E?

[NaeKuh]

:shrug:

i dont think it will because the layout is a little bit streched out then the R2E.

I think Bei said he would see if he could messure out a R2E and see if he can make adjustments for them.

[The-Fox]

well guys...

good news... :P

bei told me he was making 25 sets today. So obvious i think there going out to vendors.

Go bug gary and john now when there gonna have them in stock. :rofl:

Thats some great news NaeKuh :clap:
Where are they going to be sold for those who are not familiar with the names you mentioned :D

[gillbot]

Sidewinder and Jab-Tech as the OP states. ;)


Just got word jab-tech and sidewinders will be carrying these parts.

[aspire.comptech]

Thats some great news NaeKuh :clap:
Where are they going to be sold for those who are not familiar with the names you mentioned :D

I believe that would be Sidewinder and PPC

[DarthBeavis]

Where's mine? ;)

[The-Fox]

Sidewinder and Jab-Tech as the OP states. ;)

Thanks for that, missed that part.


I believe that would be Sidewinder and PPC

AFAIK, PPC = Frank Baron and according to gillbot and NaeKuh it's Sidewinder and Jab-Tech.

[aspire.comptech]

Thanks for that, missed that part.



AFAIK, PPC = Frank Baron and according to gillbot and NaeKuh it's Sidewinder and Jab-Tech.

Well can't fault me for trying.

[The-Fox]

NaeKuh,
How did Bei Fei managed to get over the two caps on the SB ?
unless there are two holes at the bottom of the block I don't see it fit.

[MomijiTMO]

I'd tap that .. . I mean buy that. . . I mean eh it looks awesome. :D

[NaeKuh]

NaeKuh,
How did Bei Fei managed to get over the two caps on the SB ?
unless there are two holes at the bottom of the block I don't see it fit.

the caps are under the block.

its pretty neat how bei pulled this off.

[Utnorris]

Now if there was a NB/SB block like that for the Maximus Formula I would be all over it. Looks great guys.

[zeroibis]

I hope they will come out before Christmas!

Will there be an announcement posted when they are (or are going to be) available?

[joecop120]

Ya know, with the ecomony down and all, there are a LOT of machine shops eager to do business...

[The-Fox]

the caps are under the block.

its pretty neat how bei pulled this off.

In that case add "2 caps cooling" to the feature list of the product :rofl:

grr, can't wait to have these on my upcoming P6T :yepp::yepp::yepp:

[zeroibis]

In that case add "2 caps cooling" to the feature list of the product :rofl:

grr, can't wait to have these on my upcoming P6T :yepp::yepp::yepp:

Why not add; LED mounts and some small nooks for a temp sensor while your at it? lol

Seriously, acrylic tops FTW :up:

[NaeKuh]

Where's mine? ;)

im pretty sure ur the next person right b4 the vendors.

Mine were the first prototype batches. :P

[DarthBeavis]

im pretty sure ur the next person right b4 the vendors.

Mine were the first prototype batches. :P

Need it in the next two weeks if it will make the CES rig . . .

[Bojamijams]

Why not add; LED mounts and some small nooks for a temp sensor while your at it? lol

Seriously, acrylic tops FTW :up:

Uhh no.. acryllic tops FTL.. unless you're a fan of cracks and leaks

Naekuh.. you must've been laughing your ass off when Eddy said they can't do a NB/SB due to those two caps :rofl:

[dengyong]

IMPOSSIBLE was the word he used ! :clap:

[Bei Fei]

Need it in the next two weeks if it will make the CES rig . . .

Your block will be off tomorrow or tuesday. :yepp:


Uhh no.. acryllic tops FTL.. unless you're a fan of cracks and leaks

Actually Darths blocks are being made with acrylic.

[DarthBeavis]

Uhh no.. acryllic tops FTL.. unless you're a fan of cracks and leaks

Naekuh.. you must've been laughing your ass off when Eddy said they can't do a NB/SB due to those two caps :rofl:

Sorry I call BS on that statement (acrylic) . . .I have a few builds under my belt and have had NO leaks from Danger Den blocks (although my two Thermaltake blocks did leak from cracked acrylic tops) . . .so that goes to show it depends on WHO make the tops . . .which comes down to material composition and thickness . . .add up how many builds you have had with leaks and how many I have had without leaks (well, leaks due to tops . . .I will pwn you on having the most leaks otherwise as I am the leak king). . . .

[DarthBeavis]

Your block will be off tomorrow or tuesday. :yepp:



Actually Darths blocks are being made with acrylic.

manly non-ghey hugs and kisses ;)

[Bojamijams]

Yeah but DD doesn't make their own acyllic material.. they buy it so they have no control over its quality.. so far you haven't come across any bad ones but it doesn't mean other people didn't.. or won't.. just like Swiftech got a bad batch of acryllic that caused a lot of MCRES Micro res' to be RMA's due to cracks appearing, which gabe himself confirmed it was due to a bad batch of acryllic material they received.

So you lucked out so far but its like the casino.. keep playing and eventually you WILL lose.

[Kayin]

Or you'll fall prey to cracking delrin like Enzotech did?

Buy enough and ANYTHING will fail.

[DarthBeavis]

Yeah but DD doesn't make their own acyllic material.. they buy it so they have no control over its quality.. so far you haven't come across any bad ones but it doesn't mean other people didn't.. or won't.. just like Swiftech got a bad batch of acryllic that caused a lot of MCRES Micro res' to be RMA's due to cracks appearing, which gabe himself confirmed it was due to a bad batch of acryllic material they received.

So you lucked out so far but its like the casino.. keep playing and eventually you WILL lose.

actually I have taken master's level statistics in my MBA program so I do understand probability . . .let me explain something to you:

Danger Den buys TONS of 3/8" acrylic . . .so the chance of getting a bad lot of it is so low to begin with. Now consider they use the same material for cases as they do blocks. Now consider they use way more for cases. . . .that just drastically reduces the chance of a bad batch being used for blocks . . .I have almost the same chance of getting a supercharged over-clocked DDC pump which is secretly operating in SLI . . .

The other thing you do not know is that Danger Den pressure tests their blocks before shipping them out . . .so such a failure would be caught before reaching the customer's hands . . .

As far as reservoirs go . . different story there . . .cast vs extruded acrylic . . .crazing due to improper use of Weld On or poor surface preparation . . .lots of issues that can cause that . . .does not necessarily relate to blocks . . .Cyberdruid and I work with acrylic a little more than your casual builder so we deal with this stuff and understand the complexities (I also got some great schooling on it from Tribal Overkill and Danger Den). Ben at Mountain Mods is another good source of info . . .

[Waterlogged]

Kayin;3481688']Or you'll fall prey to cracking delrin like Enzotech did?

Buy enough and ANYTHING will fail.

That was just poor design on Enzo's part. They made it way too thin in that section for the stress it was being subjected to.

[Bojamijams]

actually I have taken master's level statistics in my MBA program so I do understand probability . . .let me explain something to you:

Danger Den buys TONS of 3/8" acrylic . . .so the chance of getting a bad lot of it is so low to begin with. Now consider they use the same material for cases as they do blocks. Now consider they use way more for cases. . . .that just drastically reduces the chance of a bad batch being used for blocks . . .I have almost the same chance of getting a supercharged over-clocked DDC pump which is secretly operating in SLI . . .

The other thing you do not know is that Danger Den pressure tests their blocks before shipping them out . . .so such a failure would be caught before reaching the customer's hands . . .

As far as reservoirs go . . different story there . . .cast vs extruded acrylic . . .crazing due to improper use of Weld On or poor surface preparation . . .lots of issues that can cause that . . .does not necessarily relate to blocks . . .Cyberdruid and I work with acrylic a little more than your casual builder so we deal with this stuff and understand the complexities (I also got some great schooling on it from Tribal Overkill and Danger Den). Ben at Mountain Mods is another good source of info . . .

Fair enough :)

[DarthBeavis]

Fair enough :)

the OP should ask if the person used alcohol to shine up their top :eek: now that will cause havok

[cegras]

actually I have taken master's level statistics in my MBA program so I do understand probability . . .let me explain something to you:

Danger Den buys TONS of 3/8" acrylic . . .so the chance of getting a bad lot of it is so low to begin with. Now consider they use the same material for cases as they do blocks. Now consider they use way more for cases. . . .that just drastically reduces the chance of a bad batch being used for blocks . . .I have almost the same chance of getting a supercharged over-clocked DDC pump which is secretly operating in SLI . . .

The other thing you do not know is that Danger Den pressure tests their blocks before shipping them out . . .so such a failure would be caught before reaching the customer's hands . . .

As far as reservoirs go . . different story there . . .cast vs extruded acrylic . . .crazing due to improper use of Weld On or poor surface preparation . . .lots of issues that can cause that . . .does not necessarily relate to blocks . . .Cyberdruid and I work with acrylic a little more than your casual builder so we deal with this stuff and understand the complexities (I also got some great schooling on it from Tribal Overkill and Danger Den). Ben at Mountain Mods is another good source of info . . .

Buying more reduces chances of getting bad pieces? I thought the gaussian just grows proportionally - or does this operate according to some other model?

Curious : )

[DarthBeavis]

Buying more reduces chances of getting bad pieces? I thought the gaussian just grows proportionally - or does this operate according to some other model?

Curious : )

Good point . . .if you just take that point by itself . . .I was thinking down my entire point . . .I mean they buy so many orders of product so if they get one bad order that is not magnified as that is one order among many . . .the proper statement would be the impact of a bad batch would be minimized due to their level of order and usage.
You are focusing on the supply of acrylic instead of the smaller production runs of block tops verses the larger runs of case walls . . .the nature of how the production is run means the block tops will be cut spaced out across batches of acrylic which reduces the chances of a large batch of 'bad' tops verses a shop that runs only tops which . . .if you only produce tops and you get a bad batch of material you are guaranteed to get bad tops, if you product various products then that is not the case . . .

[zeroibis]

I just got to make sure that I get one asap! I want to have this in the new computer I am building this month :D

Also that logic is wrong

What you are saying:
100ft bought
2% is bad (2ft)
50ft used in product X (1ft is bad)
50ft used in product Y (1ft is bad)
Therefore product X will have a 50% less chance of being bad

What reality says:
100ft bought
2% is bad (2ft)
50ft used in product X (1ft is bad)
50ft used in product Y (1ft is bad)
Out of the 50ft used in X 1ft was bad or 2%
Out of the 50ft used in Y 1ft was bad or 2%
Therefore 2% of the product is bad regardless of the amount used

Another example:
100ft bought
2% is bad (2ft)
25ft used in product X (.5ft is bad)
75ft used in product Y (1.5ft is bad)
Out of the 50ft used in X .5ft was bad or 2%
Out of the 50ft used in Y 1.5ft was bad or 2%

Another way to think:
2% of every foot is bad
.24in of every foot is bad
If every product is made out of at least 1ft of material they will all contain at least .24in of bad material

[DarthBeavis]

I just got to make sure that I get one asap! I want to have this in the new computer I am building this month :D

Also that logic is wrong

What you are saying:
100ft bought
2% is bad (2ft)
50ft used in product X (1ft is bad)
50ft used in product Y (1ft is bad)
Therefore product X will have a 50% less chance of being bad

What reality says:
100ft bought
2% is bad (2ft)
50ft used in product X (1ft is bad)
50ft used in product Y (1ft is bad)
Out of the 50ft used in X 1ft was bad or 2%
Out of the 50ft used in Y 1ft was bad or 2%
Therefore 2% of the product is bad regardless of the amount used

Another example:
100ft bought
2% is bad (2ft)
25ft used in product X (.5ft is bad)
75ft used in product Y (1.5ft is bad)
Out of the 50ft used in X .5ft was bad or 2%
Out of the 50ft used in Y 1.5ft was bad or 2%

Another way to think:
2% of every foot is bad
.24in of every foot is bad
If every product is made out of at least 1ft of material they will all contain at least .24in of bad material
You did not read what I said and your logic is faulty. If you have 100 feet of acrylic and say 1 foot is 'bad' . . .you do two runs, the changes are the smaller run will not be affected . . .you will not have bad material in both batches you will have a percentage of a chance there will be bad in both batches

. If you run one batch (in a company that produces only one product) you will produce that product with the bad material . . .no way around it. The problem is a probability not a percentage that is faulty. I am making sense?

anyways, we are all shooting from the hip as we do not have all the information needed to come up with a real answer . . . .what is important is the quality check at the end of the process that will catch faulty acrylic or other production errors before the product reaches the customer. . . .I think we can all agree to that.

[zeroibis]

Ah, I think part of the problem is I am including accounting logic into it.

So what I am doing is saying that if you have a probability of 2% of 100ft going bad it means that 2% IS bad. In other words the chance that something is going to occur is the amount that will occur and thus we should just assume that it did occur.

Another way of working my logic: I am sending 100 boxes to location X there is a 2% prop that a box will not make it. I only need 98 boxes so I am fine but if I was a 100% chance that all the boxes will arrive then I would only send 98 boxes.