View Full Version : What is "the" CPU WB right now?
TheWeaseL
10-17-2003, 10:34 PM
Title says it all. My MCW5000-A was nice for learning, and now I need something that kicks azz. I've heard of something called like the Waterfall or something similar...
Belgian_Dude
10-18-2003, 02:46 AM
Cascade, means the same indeed :D
Cathar sell's them, ask him :)
antipop
10-18-2003, 07:08 AM
Cascade then LRWW both Cathar's creation
afireinside
10-18-2003, 08:24 AM
LRWW is little river white water right?
Craig
10-18-2003, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by afireinside
LRWW is little river white water right?
Yes.
On a Intel both the Cascade and White Water are very close in the performance they will give. But for a AMD the Cascade performs about 1.5c better. Nothing can keep up with a Cascade on AMD rigs, and only the White Water can hang close with it on Intels.
TheWeaseL
10-18-2003, 11:22 PM
Hmm, I see. So does he make them or just happens to be a retailer for them?
saaya
10-18-2003, 11:34 PM
the swiftech block with a 227W tec
Major
10-18-2003, 11:37 PM
He designed them, and IMO he also sells them. Dtek is a retail for them:
http://www.dtekcustoms.com/subcatmfgprod.asp?0=204&1=209&2=-1&6=1
Cathar
10-19-2003, 12:11 AM
I designed both blocks. I made the White Water's for about 7 months, and then worked with DTek for them to produce the White Water. I then stopped making the White Water's at about the end of March this year.
Over the next few months I commenced work on the Cascade design, getting it finalised by the start of July. I still produce the Cascade design exclusively.
Originally posted by Craig
Yes.
On a Intel both the Cascade and White Water are very close in the performance they will give. But for a AMD the Cascade performs about 1.5c better. Nothing can keep up with a Cascade on AMD rigs, and only the White Water can hang close with it on Intels.
There's been some interesting evidence that I've been gathering on the way that P4's report their temperatures. If you're interested in the theory behind it, then I suggest taking a look through this thread:
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8152
Basically the Cascade is the superior block for dealing with CPU "hotspots", but the P4 CPU doesn't report the temperature of the hottest sections of the CPU die, but rather the coolest.
htkm1
10-19-2003, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by TheWeaseL
Title says it all. My MCW5000-A was nice for learning, and now I need something that kicks azz. I've heard of something called like the Waterfall or something similar...
Cascade is "THE" CPU WB. I have tried Maze4 and LRWW. both were ok but Cascade just blew me away.
SoulEdge
10-20-2003, 01:24 PM
The white water is far better than the maze4. The maze4 doesn't really perform any better than the maze3 from what I've read.
SupaMan
10-20-2003, 05:12 PM
what would you expect the performance delta to be between a 5000-A and a cascade? about 5C?
it would be a nice upgrade fo rme...but I would have to wait for a new chip too. It seems this one has hit its limit at sane voltages...and I dont wanna 2V it
nikhsub1
10-20-2003, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by SupaMan
what would you expect the performance delta to be between a 5000-A and a cascade? about 5C?
it would be a nice upgrade fo rme...but I would have to wait for a new chip too. It seems this one has hit its limit at sane voltages...and I dont wanna 2V it
Well the delta between the 5000A and the WW at 100W would be 4-5C. The Cascade should be about 1.5C better still.
Semper Fi
10-20-2003, 08:16 PM
where can you buy a cascade in the US?
antipop
10-21-2003, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Semper Fi
where can you buy a cascade in the US? You can't buy it from a shop only Cathar himself produces them for the moment, the only way to buy one is to send him a mail or check his website but i always forgot the link