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JacobHansen
01-04-2004, 08:59 AM
That depends of the Cooling.

If you have som Prometeia then about 27-2800 Mhz..
If you get a lucky chip 2850.2900..
2900 at MAX...


On air 2500 Mhz..

I think.. :rolleyes:

Pedro Rocha
01-04-2004, 09:32 AM
This is the max stable of my 3200+ without the VMod on the memory (only 2.7v).

http://home.kqnet.pt/wo034892/CPUMark_357_2800.jpg

:)

JacobHansen
01-04-2004, 11:41 AM
Pedro

What mobo are you Using?

OPPAINTER
01-04-2004, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Epsilon
Damn nice score's OPP :)
23k on stock XT is nice

Running 288fsb on a gigabyte or shuttle?

Gigabyte, but I can't get w2k to load and I'm running XP. I have to try another type of mobo.

OPP

Pedro Rocha
01-04-2004, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by JacobHansen
Pedro

What mobo are you Using?

Gigabyte K8N "non pro" (really unexpensive - 90 Euros) :)

Astennu
01-04-2004, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Gigabyte, but I can't get w2k to load and I'm running XP. I have to try another type of mobo.

OPP

And the heatspreader was removed ? Verry nice resulds from both you guys :banana: :cool: :banana:

Pedro Rocha What is the stepping of your cpu that thing rox
:D

Happy^
01-04-2004, 02:11 PM
Tak JacobHansen :)
Godt nok at her er andre fra lille DK :p:


I have H2O Cooling - EVO360 and soon i will get a Maze4 that will fit on my 3400+.

Should i could reach 2500Mhz with a Chaintech mobo ??

Epsilon
01-05-2004, 04:23 AM
With a bit of luck u will even get 2600 or 2650. I have seen some A64's run @ 2600 on WC :).

2500 is very doable with some big-ass aircooling. With that WC u will be able to get that without any real struggle i think :).

Happy^
01-05-2004, 05:04 AM
Sounds NICE!!! :D

I will post some results when i got some :d

JacobHansen
01-05-2004, 07:22 AM
nice - Jeg håber du kommer højt.

I hope you will reach some high mhz :D

kakaroto
01-05-2004, 08:42 AM
I've bought a Gigabyte K8N pro motherboard and I would like to change the memory timings...
But in the original bios I cannot do that.

Does anybody know how to change them?

Happy^
01-05-2004, 09:41 AM
Tom's Hardware just made a review of four chipset:

http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040105/index.html

OPPAINTER
01-05-2004, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by kakaroto
I've bought a Gigabyte K8N pro motherboard and I would like to change the memory timings...
But in the original bios I cannot do that.

Does anybody know how to change them?
You need to hit ctl-F1 when your in your bios.

OPP

althes
01-05-2004, 10:32 AM
I am going to sell some stuff and see if I cna get a a64 or would it be better to get a fx-51:D

kakaroto
01-05-2004, 11:52 AM
Pedro/OPP:

Are you using a PCI controller like promise? Or have you tryed not using the PCI controller card?

I've got the same motherboard as you (k8N pro), but I can't go beyond 225MHz HT.
Might it be the PCI thats not locked??


I set VDDQ tot +1v, VHT to +1 and Vdimm to +3v.

OPPAINTER
01-05-2004, 12:16 PM
I'm useing both, right now I'm testing with just a IBM on one of the IDE ports. No problem at 290 FSB.

OPP

kakaroto
01-05-2004, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I'm useing both, right now I'm testing with just a IBM on one of the IDE ports. No problem at 290 FSB.

OPP

So there is a lock, or your HD is very tolerant. :D
Which bios version are you using?

I'm now testing 220x10 with 1,65v. No probs in windows.
But when I set 230, I can't go further then the post. (blue screen)

Is the VDDQ and VCC12_HT important with OC? and what is the best LBT speed?

kakaroto
01-05-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
drop "LDT" from 3x to 2.5x or if at 2.5x to 2x the fsb will now move alot high depending the cpu can run the faster MHZ..

best bet do this

max vcore
max vdimm
set ldt to 2x via the bios post at 215-220mhz fsb

use clockgen in windows to see the max "STABLE" the fsb you can achive ;)

I bet you pass 230mhz if the cpu can handle the new speed same goes for ram

BTW what DDR are ya runing ?

My mobo is not yet been modded.

vDDQ and VC12_HT is set to +0.2v.

My memory is running at 191MHz @230FSB.
This is because i have PC2700 memory and I can't swith to 1:1....

I think with a mod I wil come a lot further, because now I need more Vcore and more Vdimm to run my memory @400MHz 5-2-2-2.

kakaroto
01-05-2004, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
lol im not talking about any mods ther eis a bios setting for

HT/LDT 3x/2.5x/2x or maybe its like this
600mhz/400mhz/200mhz lower that ;)

also drop that ddr that is hoildiing you wayyyyyyyyyyyy back get real ram that is "MADE" to run with the full speed of thre onchip ddr controler. :)q

I know, this ram only get fast with high voltages...
It can max out to 500MHz with 3.3/3.4v. (5-2-2-2)

Im now looking for BH-5 memory. :)
And thanks!

Soulburner
01-05-2004, 02:15 PM
250 2-2-2-5 is normal for BH5 at 3.3v.....

You sure BH5 will do any better than what you have?

That's a damn nice clock for Infineon 2700...

kakaroto
01-05-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Soulburner
250 2-2-2-5 is normal for BH5 at 3.3v.....

You sure BH5 will do any better than what you have?

That's a damn nice clock for Infineon 2700...

I haven't try 3.35v and higher on my Infineon USA PC2700.
On my 4pda2+ I maxed out 490MHz 5-2-2-2 3.34v
But a to high DDR voltage might damage the onchip memory controller...

But the BH-5 will do better at lower voltage than my Infineon.

Astennu
01-05-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by kakaroto
I haven't try 3.35v and higher on my Infineon USA PC2700.
On my 4pda2+ I maxed out 490MHz 5-2-2-2 3.34v
But a to high DDR voltage might damage the onchip memory controller...

But the BH-5 will do better at lower voltage than my Infineon.

Verry nice clocks there I'm doing 233 @ 3.1 @ my pc3500 ( BH - 5 Corsair )

SoundWave
01-06-2004, 06:42 AM
What can I expect to hit?

Just got my 3000+ (0344) and receiving my Chaintech nForce3 tonight.
I've got some Corsair PC3200 TwinX (Ver. 1.1), VapoChill XE and WaterChill for the NB.

Without a VMOD - is 2400-2500 possible?

s e t h
01-06-2004, 06:47 AM
Soundwave - with that new chip 2400-2500 should be attainable. especially with below ambient cooling. post results later?

SoundWave
01-06-2004, 07:03 AM
MickeyM. Where Can I find your guide. I'm not that skilled in MOD's but I know someone who can do it for me.

Happy^
01-06-2004, 07:30 AM
Ive just heard that the AMD 3200+ droped from $417 to $278 !!

So it will be the best for me to buy a 3200+ :)


SW --> Ej er du nu også her ?! :D

cpulloverclock
01-07-2004, 03:55 PM
2 WRs :
403.88FSB with MemoryFSanMax PC3200 BH-5 256MB / DDR266 / CL2.5-2-5-2-8
VDDR : 3.39v
VIO : 3.73v
CPUFAthlon 64 3200+ 0334MPMW

JAP guy (NEWBEETLE) DETECTED :smileysex
http://homepage2.nifty.com/NewBeetle/img022.gif
and
http://homepage2.nifty.com/NewBeetle/img022.gif

Epsilon
01-08-2004, 12:21 PM
Wow 43sec in pifast is amazing :)
Running 1:1 ? :)

STEvil
01-08-2004, 10:09 PM
cpulloverclock - Let us know how long that A64 lasts on 3.7v...

gabbax
01-08-2004, 10:19 PM
AN50r
3200+@240x10@1.65 Just AIR

Died, after 2 days.

TechTones
01-08-2004, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by gabbax
AN50r
3200+@240x10@1.65 Just AIR

Died, after 2 days.

Just the board died?

gabbax
01-08-2004, 10:35 PM
Well, to be hounest(spell:)) I do not know, it refused to start, so i RMA it to the store, i hope il get some new stuff next week:)

And i did test all i could do, just dead, wont boot at all...(i think the CPU died,and the motherboard still alive)

gabbax
01-08-2004, 10:59 PM
Yepp, the "buffert" or Full load temps are Amazing with DIce, i did test it on my P4, and it just rice 1-2!! deg under SuperPi in 4100...

copyman
01-09-2004, 04:33 AM
http://www.watercooler.com.br/copyman-modshop.jpg


While my gigabyte doesn't arrive and my r404a 1,1\4hp 890w@-35c chiller not this finished, oh they are my results full rock solid and stock air cooled

system

asus k8v deluxe " argh " bios 14
a 64 3200+ @ 2470mhz 1,75v stock cooling
xms 3500 2x256 mb 3,25v 2\1 247Mhz 2 2 2 5 11 16
9800np san 3,3 ns @ 9800pro 535gpu (air cooled) 384 mem
(one among 23 different bios of 9800pro's that I got to do to rotate solid to 247mhz " 82mhz agp ")

25.781kmarks

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7425759

In one day with win2000 and rotating the tests to punctuate, and increasing a little the over of the videobord hopes to kick 26.6 26.8 totally air cooled with to 9800 np 3,3ns san and that horrible motherbord...

I find good results tends in view the system of refrigeration and the used mothebord, and mainly gotten with air cpu (stock) and gpu.

I thanks the friends a lot (mickey ,major, OPP, macci, Bownman, mister ice and among others) that always helped me in a lot of doubts them and they never stop answering a tread or mp

You are incredible

If somebody has interest in information on my vmods topic

http://www.forumpcs.com.br/viewtopic.php?t=44975&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=e1d0f8edcfb0e195cba027281d7b3a93

or super chillers

http://www.phase-change.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=10084#10084

cya

copyman
01-09-2004, 05:27 AM
in time...

i got, after changing 23 bios of 9800pro's, to find one the to work more than 82mhz in the agp

I think with it you can play a little more with the 9800pro without collapse of the agp with via bords

I have some 12x 9800pro original home, but I didn't have time of trying this bios in it.

none of those 12 9800pro nor it mines 9800xt it was besides passing from 71 to 74 Mhz in the agp

a lot of game for today the night

who wants to try this bios in your 9800pro´s to rotate in high values of agp, only to order me a mp ok

Av3ng3r
01-09-2004, 09:03 AM
I just read this:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13525

I hope it's true

QuadDamage
01-09-2004, 09:23 AM
cpulloverclock - Let us know how long that A64 lasts on 3.7v...

pretty long, as long as you don't use Shuttle mobo.

eshbach
01-10-2004, 07:36 PM
2500mhz air cooled

CAAMC 0339WPMW
9446548130306

http://eshbach.s5.com/2500.jpg

CCC
01-10-2004, 08:31 PM
Here is mine so far

Astennu
01-11-2004, 02:38 AM
3.0 GHZ :D

I'm Getting a CAAMC 0349 RPMW. I have heard people score bad with this core :'( People here who have seen it run good clocks ?

kakaroto
01-11-2004, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Astennu
3.0 GHZ :D

I'm Getting a CAAMC 0349 RPMW. I have heard people score bad with this core :'( People here who have seen it run good clocks ?

I was unable to run 2400MHz stable with Vcore 1.6 ~2.0V with that stepping code. The temps where good (38C).

I think my K8N pro is holding me back, i dont know.
If i was you, give it a try.

s e t h
01-11-2004, 02:50 PM
fine stuff. can't wait to see what happens with 9 microns. how many chips you had so far jason? whats your take on the best steppings?

soccrstar
01-12-2004, 05:02 AM
3012 1.95 ADA3200AEP5AP Abit KV8-MAX3 Zalman CNPS7000A-ALCU 21567



someone from the cpudatabase got 3.01ghz on abit Kv8-max3.....

1.95Vcore

and also it seems that amd made some tweaks on the a64 3400+
people nearin' exceedin' 3ghz

s e t h
01-12-2004, 06:50 AM
soccrstar - you get 3ghz on air??? :slobber:

how stable is that

soccrstar
01-12-2004, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by flytek
soccrstar - you get 3ghz on air??? :slobber:

how stable is that

ohh daz HSF? :confused:

didnt kn0
s0rrie

i ordered a athlon 64 3200+ wit abit K8v-max3 motherboard
and OCZ PC4000 (ddr500) gold edition 2x512mb DDR memory
and antec 550 trupower power supply

anyone with k8v-max3? how is it? good? no multi changed? tried upgradin bios to see if they added that feature?

(currently got p4 2.66@3ghz, gigabyte 8KNXP (canterwood), 4x256mb cas2.5 memory.)

i get 1min 10sec in superpi 1mb

[edit]
is it worth it to watercool a athlon64 northbridge?

zakelwe
01-12-2004, 07:52 AM
I think he means he saw someone with this entry in the database.

I find 3Ghz on air hard to believe, any more proof ?

Regards
Andy

CCC
01-12-2004, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by soccrstar
3012 1.95 ADA3200AEP5AP Abit KV8-MAX3 Zalman CNPS7000A-ALCU 21567



someone from the cpudatabase got 3.01ghz on abit Kv8-max3.....

1.95Vcore

and also it seems that amd made some tweaks on the a64 3400+
people nearin' exceedin' 3ghz

seems nearly impossible to me to reach 3ghz on air, especially while putting 1.95v in it. . you just couldnt cool it enough

just IMO anyway

soccrstar
01-13-2004, 03:46 PM
how are you people gettin' past the agp not bein' locked?

my motherboard i can change the agp clock by itself (non-amd)
to c the tolerance on my r9500 to prepare for my athlon64 comin' diz week.

and it wont post @ 74.

how much of a OC from a 64 3200+ would i have b4 the agp reaches that bus speed?

s e t h
01-13-2004, 11:32 PM
soccrstar - nforce3 chipsets have locked agp bus. often the pci bus is unlocked though.

soccrstar
01-14-2004, 04:17 AM
man someone had recommended me the abit K8v-max3
now i wont go pass like 210fsb becuz of my radeon9500. it cries even b4 it even reaches 74mhz agp freq. on nother board.

s e t h
01-14-2004, 04:43 AM
210/3=70mhz agp. that can't be what's holding you back then. it must be something else.

your max fsb without an agp lock will be 73*3=219fsb. i suggest an nforce3 chipset with a locked agp bus if you want to go over 220fsb

soccrstar
01-14-2004, 05:21 AM
any1 wan buy a K8V-max3? :D
hehe

well imma give the board a try first... if a no go... ne1 recommend a good NF3 boad dat'll allow me to hit 300mhz FSB or more? (of course wit multiplier drop)


[edit]
i decided on cancellin' my order on the 3200+ n got the 3400+ a64.

thats comin' friday along wit the abit k8v-max3
so i'm guessin' i'll b receivin' 2.4ghz clock @ 219 but than again i dont kn0 what the 9800XTs agp clock kill...

i'm goin' retail on the radeon9800XT and gon vmod that sucker (P.S. where can i find the VR resister @?)

spendin' over 1500 on this system (sheesh!!!)

at least 90% of the parts i can use again such as mem, case, psu, etc

Orak
01-14-2004, 10:46 AM
OPP, do you have GB K8N non-pro ?

I need some voltmodds to my K8N non pro i think.. my cpu is at the post office in few days :banana:

OPPAINTER
01-15-2004, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Orak
OPP, do you have GB K8N non-pro ?

I need some voltmodds to my K8N non pro i think.. my cpu is at the post office in few days :banana:

I have the pro version myself, the mods may be the same. Macci has a non pro he could tell you the mods.

OPP

kakaroto
01-15-2004, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I have the pro version myself, the mods may be the same. Macci has a non pro he could tell you the mods.

OPP

I heared that a to high Vddr can damage the onboard memory controller from the CPU. Is that true?
Is 3.61v (3.3v rail) dangerous? I don't wanna fry it :)

soccrstar
01-16-2004, 06:15 PM
here is my a64 3400+ chip

ADA3400AEP5AP
CAA0C 0348XPMW
9778034L30579

i'm decidin' on whether to get the gigabyte k8n-pro or the shuttle
AN50R?

P.S. any1 know bout that stepping... good OCer?

STEvil
01-16-2004, 07:38 PM
Its up in the air at the moment, kakaroto.

TinTin
01-17-2004, 02:19 AM
A64 3200+
ADA3200AEP5AP
CAAMC 0339WPMW
9446635J30492

1.700V, 250*10, watercooled

EmineM
01-17-2004, 02:37 AM
I got a BROWN 3400 + it does max 2420 on air with 1.65 vcore

soccrstar
01-17-2004, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by EmineM
I got a BROWN 3400 + it does max 2420 on air with 1.65 vcore

ok i'm hearing brown and green...

whats the difference and how can you tell?

EmineM
01-17-2004, 07:10 AM
MickeyM is your 3400 brown aswell?
how high did you manage to clock it on air? also tell me with what multi and fsb :)

Happy^
01-17-2004, 11:55 AM
Is 19200 3DMark2001SE Points good @ 2Ghz ??

Btw., what is the diffrence of 2.5 and 3 LDT ?? And will i get higher score if I change to 3 insted of 2.5 ??

And finally: How the hell do I chance my CAS latency ?? (i have a Chaintech mobo).

Thx dudes :)

TheDude
01-17-2004, 12:21 PM
No one has the 9-18 bios anymore? :(
I've been looking all over for it.

Happy^
01-17-2004, 12:42 PM
MM I have a Radeon 9800Pro :)

Happy^
01-17-2004, 12:50 PM
2x 512Mb DDR PC3500 Mushkin Level II Hi Perf 2-2-2)
433Mhz, 184 pins, 64 bit, CL2, rated 2-2-2
Dual channel optimised, w/ alu heatspreader
€388

Hov does that sounds ??

OPPAINTER
01-17-2004, 01:16 PM
Got me a 3400 chip.

Runs 3D at 3000Mhz with memory running at 250 agressive timeings. This is with 404A MachI. Nice Chip. Stock Radeon clocks get me around 24100 marks, 400-500 behind FX-51. Seems to Overclock about the same as my FX.

OPP

macci
01-17-2004, 01:43 PM
Very nice 'single phase' clocking :D
Now it just needs some 270+ RAM loving and we are looking at new top numbers eh? ;)
Now why aren't the 3400 chips available up here yet ?? :/
I want one :D

OPPAINTER
01-17-2004, 01:48 PM
270 ram would nice :D

I swear this Kingston of mine has never giveing me any better then 255,,pushing it!!

Then again macci might be able to do something with it:)

OPP

macci
01-17-2004, 01:51 PM
Orak,

Here (http://www.akiba-pc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70) is some stuff on GigaByte K8N Vdimm/Vbt mods. Vcore mod is the same as on K8NNXP/Pro

macci
01-17-2004, 01:56 PM
OPP, what board are you using with the 3400 now? Shuttle?

EmineM
01-17-2004, 02:25 PM
OPP what colour is your 3400 + ? Brown or green

niaboc79
01-17-2004, 02:37 PM
My new 3200+

http://www.yamafoto.com/users/niaboc79/images/13916/A64_3200_0344SPMW.JPG

I can do 300*8.5 with 1.78v and watercooling but i only test it One hour!

Orak
01-17-2004, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by macci
Orak,

Here (http://www.akiba-pc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70) is some stuff on GigaByte K8N Vdimm/Vbt mods. Vcore mod is the same as on K8NNXP/Pro

tnx mate:)

CCC
01-17-2004, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Got me a 3400 chip.

Runs 3D at 3000Mhz with memory running at 250 agressive timeings. This is with 404A MachI. Nice Chip. Stock Radeon clocks get me around 24100 marks, 400-500 behind FX-51. Seems to Overclock about the same as my FX.

OPP

very nice overclock ther OPP:toast:

was waiting for you or macci to get a 3400+, i see your running 2.0vcore... the most ive tried is 1.95v with my custom r404 chiller by herefishy... at stock volts according to the bios it reads the cpu temp at about -21C, with 1.95v it reads about -8C which is why i have been hesitant to run 2.0v.. Just curious what your cpu temps are with your r404 chiller with those volts?????

Thanks

CCC
01-17-2004, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
at 276x10.5=2.9ghz@1.93v I saw -18c load with dryice/acetone :)

CCC I heard there was an OVP at 1.94v+ on the shuttle so I neevr tried higher either.

wow -18C load is 10C colder than mine, nice.. hmm i havent read about the OVP being 1.94v, i will have to try 2.0v i guess just too see...

OPPAINTER
01-17-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by CCC
very nice overclock ther OPP:toast:

was waiting for you or macci to get a 3400+, i see your running 2.0vcore... the most ive tried is 1.95v with my custom r404 chiller by herefishy... at stock volts according to the bios it reads the cpu temp at about -21C, with 1.95v it reads about -8C which is why i have been hesitant to run 2.0v.. Just curious what your cpu temps are with your r404 chiller with those volts?????

Thanks

CCC,

Here's a 3D03 run at 2.08 volts doing 3gigs. Started off at -22c idle and then took a big hit, all the way up to -1 in Nature.

OPP

OPPAINTER
01-17-2004, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by EmineM
OPP what colour is your 3400 + ? Brown or green

It's brown.


Macci,

I'm still using my original Gigabyte Pro, the only 754 mobo I've tryed:D I need to get a shuttle.

OPP

OPPAINTER
01-17-2004, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
OPP pick up 1 stick of this from zipzoomfly.com/googlegear for $66 bucks both of mine each did 276 1:1 2-2-2-11 @ 3.55v

now $76 lol



Yea I think I'll start looking around for some new DDR this week. Gunna have to find something for the new Socket 939 mobos. My Kingston 3500 is old news.

OPP

[_Silence_]
01-18-2004, 06:04 AM
My 3000+ does 298 x 9.5, stable for 3DMark, I have it cooled by r404a Prommy.

Did 25758 Marks (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7461338) with A64 + 9800PRO 540/423, not bad for a 3000+.

EmineM
01-18-2004, 07:50 AM
diogojcr where did you download directx 8.1 for windows xp?

[_Silence_]
01-18-2004, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by EmineM
diogojcr where did you download directx 8.1 for windows xp?

Win XP already has DX 8.1. If u have DX 9.0 installed remove it with DirectX Erradicator, it retrieves DX 8.0 to your system.

EmineM
01-18-2004, 08:21 AM
The DirectX Eradicator thing does not seem to work it says:
DXE was unable to detect Cryptographic Services.Please start the service and try again ???????

3dmark01 still says directx9
Where do i turn on the crpytographic services?

EmineM
01-18-2004, 09:14 AM
tried rebooting now.. doesnt work.. help o_O?

TheDude
01-18-2004, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by EmineM
tried rebooting now.. doesnt work.. help o_O?

Does it give you an error number...like 126 or 643, etc? If so what is the error number please?;)

EmineM
01-18-2004, 09:38 AM
No error number.. in the preview file of DXE it says the Cryptographic Services thing is a known problem doesnt tell me how to solve it though... yes I am logged in as administrator

@TheDude its not windows giving me the error its DXE.

TheDude
01-18-2004, 09:40 AM
I am assuming this is XP if crypto errors, so do this to makle sure it is on.

Start the Administrative Tools utility in Control Panel.
Double-click Services. (this will open the services window)
Right-click Cryptographic Services, and then click Properties.
Click Automatic for Startup type, and then click Start.

Does it start? Do you have SP1 installed?

copyman
01-18-2004, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by diogojcr
My 3000+ does 298 x 9.5, stable for 3DMark, I have it cooled by r404a Prommy.

Did 25758 Marks (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7461338) with A64 + 9800PRO 540/423, not bad for a 3000+.

not good results for my

insane overclock, but doesn't it become performance, something wrong?

i over the kv8 deluxe and 3200 to 2470 mhz 247 fsb 2225 11 16 (xms 3500) " rock solid" with my 9800np to 533 384 makes more points than you with air in the cpu and gpu

tomorrow I will change my motherbord for a giga nf3 and to place the chiller, now I am in doubts if it is really worth the change

and my video , processor and fsb are a lot below yours..

and now, what do I make?

i now about the differences of performance of the chpset, but I didn't think they be so big

:rolleyes:

my score 2k1 = 25960

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7434423

ojdr2001
01-18-2004, 05:36 PM
Cache difference my8....:)

and perhaps SO, he's running XP

cpulloverclock
01-18-2004, 05:48 PM
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

DDR688 with ECC RAM???????????????

http://219.113.251.125/c-board/file/57s_344.25x4.0.png

cpulloverclock
01-18-2004, 05:50 PM
DDR710???????????????

:slobber:

http://219.113.251.125/c-board/file/4_355.png
http://219.113.251.125/c-board/file/an50_5.5_316_46s.png

cpulloverclock
01-18-2004, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
wow on the fsb geezz!!

to bad these guys dont bench 3dmark I could only imagine the results!! as usual with japanese
dont isnt the word, I prefer NEVER :D

some_young_guy
01-18-2004, 08:07 PM
How in the world did they get their agp and pci frequencies to stick at 66MHz and 33 Mhz respectively?

macci
01-19-2004, 12:51 AM
The AGP is locked at 66MHz on these boards thou.

Man I'd like to know how in the hell you run RAM that high?? :D
Is the silly low CPU clock the key for that RAM speed or what?

STEvil
01-19-2004, 12:59 AM
The newer boards seem to act like the PCI lock is working, too... maybe it was just the early revision boards that had problems?

cpulloverclock
01-19-2004, 06:05 AM
cpu-z 1.20b :confused:

I dont understand

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

I'll ask to Franck (creator of clockgen and cpu-z)
http://www.x86-secret.com/ :D

cpulloverclock
01-19-2004, 08:58 AM
M/B: GA-K8N Pro / BIOS: K8NNXP-940.f2
CPU: Athlon64 3400+ CAAOC 0345
CPU Cooling: …—â(Poseidon)
Chipset Cooling: ƒm[ƒ}ƒ‹–³‰ü‘¢
Memory: Corsair PC2700LL 256MB x1
VGA: Matrox G450 PCI
HDD: HITACHI HDS722512VLAT80
Power suplly: Zippy-460W(ƒVƒXƒeƒ€—p) & AOpen FSP400-60GN(ƒhƒ‰ƒCƒu—p)
Vcore: 1.834V, Vddr: 3.492V, Vio: 3.892V
OSFWindows Server 2003

FSBF345.38MHz
ClockF1381.51MHz(”{—¦x4.0)
MEMF200-CL2.0-11-13-2-2-5-2-2-2-6-1x4672
SuperƒÎ104–œŒ…:banana:®‘–ƒ^ƒCƒ€F56•b




http://219.113.251.125/c-board/file/56s_345.38x4.0.png

macci
01-19-2004, 09:58 AM
CL2.0-11-13-2-2-5-2-2-2-6-1x4672
Hmm I wonder if that helps the oc. Gotta test it :D

OPPAINTER
01-19-2004, 12:41 PM
After checking out these posts I had to try some FSB Overclocking.

Made it to 336, ran out of cooling.
And I my Kingston was up to 275 for once:D

Gunna play with this some more.

OPP

EmineM
01-19-2004, 12:43 PM
what kingston ram are you using OPP?

CCC
01-19-2004, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
After checking out these posts I had to try some FSB Overclocking.

Made it to 336, ran out of cooling.
And I my Kingston was up to 275 for once:D

Gunna play with this some more.

OPP

nice fsb there OPP:)

i ran some '01 benchies at 316x9.5 5:4 but my scores in car high and lobby low were actually lower than when i ran 272 1:1..

Are the scores any better for you at 336x9 than if you ran 1:1??? I may lower my multi to 9 and give it a go

Also are you running those at 2.0x ldt??? do you mess with the ldt voltage at all??

OPPAINTER
01-19-2004, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by EmineM
what kingston ram are you using OPP?

My PC3500

I'm going after Hipro5 :)

OPP

OPPAINTER
01-19-2004, 02:02 PM
A few more and I beat Hipro :D

I have to turn up some v-core:D

OPP

s e t h
01-19-2004, 02:12 PM
that's it. me wants one. lol
got a pic of the rig for fun? what's going on with the northbridge?

Malves
01-19-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
A few more and I beat Hipro :D

I have to turn up some v-core:D

OPP

Looking good, bro. :thumbsup:

OPPAINTER
01-19-2004, 02:31 PM
3 more and I've got him:D

OPP

soccrstar
01-19-2004, 02:43 PM
can the shuttle boards do that high of a FSB as well?

XtremepH
01-19-2004, 02:46 PM
that is one sweet overclock

cpulloverclock
01-19-2004, 03:22 PM
378 1:1?

cpulloverclock
01-19-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
lol 378 3:2 for 252mhz ddr
or 378 5:3 for 226mhz ddr

I doubt he's at 5:4 301mhz or 1:1 378 ;) thx :p:

OPPAINTER
01-19-2004, 05:07 PM
The high FSB is worthless for 3D. You have to lower your LDT the higher you go affecting the 3D performance.

I used 166 divider for the 9 multiplier, 150 for the 8.

OPP

Raoh
01-20-2004, 03:51 AM
I got my Shuttle AN50R and A64 3200+

FSB355 1:1 from Japan

Although I am sorry, Ocer of Japan does only SuperPI.
http://magnumjp.com/Temp/4_355.png

See this thread.
http://cal930.hp.infoseek.co.jp/index.html ËCALs PC BBS

and this thread.
http://magnumjp.com/BBS_cgi/c-board.cgi

cpulloverclock
01-20-2004, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Raoh
I got my Shuttle AN50R and A64 3200+

FSB355 1:1 from Japan

Although I am sorry, Ocer of Japan does only SuperPI.
http://magnumjp.com/Temp/4_355.png

See this thread.
http://cal930.hp.infoseek.co.jp/index.html ËCALs PC BBS

and this thread.
http://magnumjp.com/BBS_cgi/c-board.cgi


http://magnumjp.com/ Welcome to the paradise!!!!!!

Raoh
01-20-2004, 05:41 AM
Hi ! cpulloverclock

http://magnumjp.com/Temp/FSB400MAX.png

Burner Man
01-20-2004, 05:47 AM
Hi Raoh!
Are you using a shuttle AN50R?

LDT @what? 1x?
which voltage?

What memories have you used?

however, it's a superb score! :thumbsup:

byez :cool:

Raoh
01-20-2004, 05:54 AM
Hi ! Burner Man

shuttle AN50R
LDT@Auto X2.0
Twinmos Winbond BH-5 0247WD Vddr 3.70V

kyosen
01-20-2004, 06:45 AM
Hello higher clock lovers!
Raoh , I and our friends are just enjoying higher FSB itself:D

Hi cpulloverclock, thanks for checking my site
http://www.oohashi.jp/

And I'm a beta-tester of CPU-Z, so I received CPU-Z 1.20b
from Franck directly. It's AMD64 capable:)

I also love 3DMarks, but now I'm busy at baking Super-PI(E);)

Oh, Burner Man, just a moment for K8N-Pro Vmod details:)

cpulloverclock
01-20-2004, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by kyosen
Hello higher clock lovers!
Raoh , I and our friends are just enjoying higher FSB itself:D

Hi cpulloverclock, thanks for checking my site
http://www.oohashi.jp/

And I'm a beta-tester of CPU-Z, so I received CPU-Z 1.20b
from Franck directly. It's AMD64 capable:)

I also love 3DMarks, but now I'm busy at baking Super-PI(E);)

Oh, Burner Man, just a moment for K8N-Pro Vmod details:) Hi, ok I understand
U can try a Sandra mem bench at 355 1:1 for example with the best timings?

thx

soccrstar
01-20-2004, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by Raoh
Hi ! Burner Man

shuttle AN50R
LDT@Auto X2.0
Twinmos Winbond BH-5 0247WD Vddr 3.70V

400FSB?

i was readin' the manual on the shuttle
it says max FSB is 250?...

n are there any clear pictures on doin' a voltmodd on cpu n ram.

also where do i get the veriable risister at?

Happy^
01-20-2004, 02:53 PM
Soon ... they ... will arrive ...

Dont understand ?? I'll tell ya!

I've just ordered 2GB Mushkin Level2 with BH-5 Chips !! :D
To for me, and to for my dad.

Sweet :)


Why doesn't they produce ram with BH-5 chips anymore ??

Orak
01-21-2004, 01:52 AM
finaly my A64 rig is up and running :) :)
but i cant run CL2.. i can do it on low speed but not with 226fsb 1:1.. i think maybe i need some more volt.. :)

s e t h
01-22-2004, 12:56 AM
300 1:1 is incredible pc ice. how much vdimm did that take?

SmokeyTheBandit
01-22-2004, 02:17 AM
OMG that is just sick pc ice :drool:

With what Vdimm and Vchipset is that done ....
LDT @ 1x i asume :D

Orak
01-22-2004, 07:10 AM
hey...SmokeyTheBandit
how mutch volt do you fead your BH5 ? I have a problem to run Cas2 on my sticks.. it can be voltage ?

i give them 2.88v on 440mhz on 2.5-2-2-5 now. must go down to 420mhz to get cas2 ..

|RickY|
01-22-2004, 11:23 AM
orac, my bh-5 mems can do 260 1:1 2-2-2-5 on all board i'v tested, exept on k8n, if I use 1:1 only do 220 cas2 but if i use mems set to 166 (5/3 i think) i can do 320 or more at cas2 (ddr510 2-2-2-5)

maybe a problem with k8n, 1:1 and cas2 :)

regards

Astennu
01-22-2004, 11:29 AM
verry nice scores. I'm gonna wait for the NF3 250.

macci
01-22-2004, 11:49 AM
Can you run those 300+ RAM speeds at 'normal' CPU speeds? Like 2.7GHz and up? Or is it for sub 2G only??

Is Vddr/Vbt/vtt all you had to do in order to reach those ram clocks or was there some extra mods involved?

SmokeyTheBandit
01-22-2004, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Orak
hey...SmokeyTheBandit
how mutch volt do you fead your BH5 ? I have a problem to run Cas2 on my sticks.. it can be voltage ?

i give them 2.88v on 440mhz on 2.5-2-2-5 now. must go down to 420mhz to get cas2 ..

Mine dont need a lot of voltage to do 265 they will do that @ 3.3 V but i dont think the chaintech board does much more voltage ....
The higher i go the less posts i get :P .... 3.4V works but sometimes is crashes or wont even boot up .....

kakaroto
01-22-2004, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by SmokeyTheBandit
Mine dont need a lot of voltage to do 265 they will do that @ 3.3 V but i dont think the chaintech board does much more voltage ....
The higher i go the less posts i get :P .... 3.4V works but sometimes is crashes or wont even boot up .....

Why didn't you picked the Shuttle AN50R :)
Then you'll have plenty of voltage freedom.
I reached 4.88v so far :D

I heared that the onchip memcontroller won't be damaged on de AN50R because it get the voltages from the 5V rail not from the 3.3v...

btw smokey: I have a green CAAOC 0350 XPMW, you have the brown one with same stepping code?
On GoT there are the results, so then you can draw you conclusion what the difference is between green and brown.

kyosen
01-22-2004, 05:06 PM
Here is Sandra Bandwidth Benchmark result at 348.75MHz x4.0:)

M/B: GA-K8N Pro / BIOS: K8NNXP-940.F2
CPU: Athlon64 3400+ CAAOC 0345
CPU Cooling: Watercooling
Chipset Cooling: microcool NorthPole
Memory: Corsair PC2700LL 256MB x1
VGA: Matrox G450 PCI
HDD: HITACHI HDS722512VLAT80
Power suplly: Zippy-460W(for system) & AOpen FSP400-60GN(for HDD&floppy)
Vcore: 1.834V, Vddr/Vbt: 3.590/1.791V, Vio: 3.980V
OSFWindows Server 2003
MEMF200-CL2.0-11-13-2-2-5-2-2-2-6-1x4672

Check also please:
http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/c-board.cgi?cmd=one;no=2016;id=

cpulloverclock
01-22-2004, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by kyosen
Here is Sandra Bandwidth Benchmark result at 348.75MHz x4.0:)

M/B: GA-K8N Pro / BIOS: K8NNXP-940.F2
CPU: Athlon64 3400+ CAAOC 0345
CPU Cooling: Watercooling
Chipset Cooling: microcool NorthPole
Memory: Corsair PC2700LL 256MB x1
VGA: Matrox G450 PCI
HDD: HITACHI HDS722512VLAT80
Power suplly: Zippy-460W(for system) & AOpen FSP400-60GN(for HDD&floppy)
Vcore: 1.834V, Vddr/Vbt: 3.590/1.791V, Vio: 3.980V
OSFWindows Server 2003
MEMF200-CL2.0-11-13-2-2-5-2-2-2-6-1x4672

Check also please:
http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/c-board.cgi?cmd=one;no=2016;id= :toast: only 4080 at 348 1:1 :confused:

http://219.113.251.125/c-board/c-board.cgi?cmd=ntr;tree=2014;id=

Orak
01-22-2004, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by SmokeyTheBandit
Mine dont need a lot of voltage to do 265 they will do that @ 3.3 V but i dont think the chaintech board does much more voltage ....
The higher i go the less posts i get :P .... 3.4V works but sometimes is crashes or wont even boot up .....

I hope they will go cas2 with more voltage.. but im gonna try some Geil PC3500 golden dragon sticks soon.. so ill get a answer on that issue :stick:

Maxvla
01-22-2004, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by cpulloverclock
:toast: only 4080 at 348 1:1 :confused:

http://219.113.251.125/c-board/c-board.cgi?cmd=ntr;tree=2014;id=
only 1300mhz on the chip. would that be limiting throughput?

ThorinMan
01-22-2004, 11:54 PM
I got a 3200 running at 235 water cooled with stock voltage and stock timmings. Had to lower the ram spped to 333 though to get it stable cuz my hyperx 3500 blows. Dont know the code on the cpu as it is a pain in the @ss to get the water block off. I just learned about the ldt thing so i am going to go play with that now.

ThorinMan
01-22-2004, 11:55 PM
Oh and here are my benchs tell me what you think.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1932860
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=141342

Maxvla
01-23-2004, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by ThorinMan
Oh and here are my benchs tell me what you think.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1932860
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=141342
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1932431

interesting how my chip is 2mhz slower but i have a 30+ point margin on you in cpu marks. i thought the via boards were supposed to be faster clock for clock.

macci
01-23-2004, 12:57 PM
Check also please:
http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/c-boa...one;no=2016;id=
:toast:

Very nice clocking. :)

But it seems that once CPU is really overclocked its impossible to reach 300MHz 1:1 2-2-2-5 timings even thou the RAM and board runs over 340 at low CPU clocks?

Kyosen, have you tried increaseing the 2.5V voltage (its said to be"Vldt" on ASUS K8V) on K8N board?

SKYNET
01-23-2004, 10:27 PM
my BH5 + AN50R = suxx, on my old NF7 @ 3.3V @ 246 @ 2-2-2-11) --> AN50R max 238 @ CL2 :mad:

here 266 1:1 @ 2.5-2-2-5
http://downhill666.bei.t-online.de/Rechner/4068MB.gif


the maximum on my AN50R is 300 with 6:5
http://downhill666.bei.t-online.de/Rechner/3200+%20300FSB.gif

Maxvla
01-24-2004, 01:11 AM
wow. how can you use that color scheme all the time??? :eek:

soccrstar
01-24-2004, 07:50 AM
ne1 know why if i try 240fsb it locks up? even when i put LDT @ 2x and multiplier @ 4x?

220mhz is the most i can get
i'm using promise s150 tx2plus to house my 3 HDDs.
only thing on onboard ide is my LS120 n my dvd-rom

http://users.rcn.com/trackstar2002/220fsb.jPG

this is my score at stock speeds

http://users.rcn.com/trackstar2002/stock.JPG

Shuttle AN50R
athlon64 3400+

soccrstar
01-24-2004, 07:55 AM
s0rrie for the huge pic

oh n when i reach like 235mhz my video gets currupted...

i thought the agp was locked? :confused:

P.S. anyone know how to print screen one item (active item) instead of the whole screen?

kakaroto
01-24-2004, 08:00 AM
Here my Overclock results with watercooling by Asetek :D
I upgraded it with a Airplex EVO 240 10mm

http://kakaroto.ntonline.nl/A64_3000/Pifast_2621MHz.PNG

http://kakaroto.ntonline.nl/A64_3000/3dmark01_2.56GHz.PNG

Raoh
01-24-2004, 08:39 AM
AN50R

http://magnumjp.com/Raoh/PaiData/4_366.png

macci
01-24-2004, 09:30 AM
:toast:
Totally Insane clock!! :D

sandman
01-24-2004, 09:30 AM
I'm maxing out at 2370mhz ATM with only 1.7Vcore to work with.

I'm working on a Vcore and Vdimm mod though..

SKYNET
01-24-2004, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Maxvla
wow. how can you use that color scheme all the time??? :eek:


yeah, i love this color :cool:

Orak
01-24-2004, 10:13 AM
My A64 3200 is maxing at 2405 atm. at 1.7vcore.. im working on a vdimm mod and vcore mod my self :) and a vmod for my radeon 9800np, someone knows what speed il get on my mem at ~3.2v ? (infinion 3.0)

Raoh
01-24-2004, 03:51 PM
Hi ! MickeyMouse

The IDE card is not used.


SuperPai 1M 4x multi Ranking (http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/MAX4.htm)

marius7
01-24-2004, 08:42 PM
I want to know how it is possible to get an 350-400 MHz FSB ? What is the maxim FSB that u can put in the BIOS ? Gigabyte let 400 MHz in the bios (2x normal FSB) ? WTF ? Are they crazy ?

SKYNET
01-24-2004, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by marius7
I want to know how it is possible to get an 350-400 MHz FSB ? What is the maxim FSB that u can put in the BIOS ? Gigabyte let 400 MHz in the bios (2x normal FSB) ? WTF ? Are they crazy ?

280 in the bios and 500 in windows is the maximum...

mhhh 500 :slobber:

Raoh
01-25-2004, 01:12 AM
Hi ! marius7

I am using CrockGen (http://www.cpuid.com/index.php).The ClockGen serie consists in a set of overclocking softwares.MAXFSB=400Mhz(DDR800)

SKYNET
01-25-2004, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Raoh
Hi ! marius7

I am using CrockGen (http://www.cpuid.com/index.php).The ClockGen serie consists in a set of overclocking softwares.MAXFSB=400Mhz(DDR800)

clockgen = 500FSB(exactly 499.50) ;)

Raoh
01-25-2004, 01:43 AM
clockgen = 500FSB(exactly 499.50)


It mistook. I am sorry. Please get an 500MHz!(^^;

Happy^
01-25-2004, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by sandman
I'm maxing out at 2370mhz ATM with only 1.7Vcore to work with.

I'm working on a Vcore and Vdimm mod though..


Hmm i can't even reach 210*10 @ 1.7V VCore with max VDimm :confused:

What can the problem be ??

s e t h
01-25-2004, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by Happy^
Hmm i can't even reach 210*10 @ 1.7V VCore with max VDimm :confused:

What can the problem be ??
too much vdimm often blows an overclock.

Happy^
01-25-2004, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by flytek
too much vdimm often blows an overclock.

I gave it max because nothing else worked.

For a week ago, I could run 220*10 @ 1.675V, but now i can't.

macci
01-25-2004, 06:31 AM
only 4080 at 348 1:1??
Sandra wont give correct results if multiplier is adjusted from Windows. Thats the reason for the low score.

QuadDamage
01-25-2004, 09:30 AM
nice to see Japanese folks here finally:toast: awesome numbers guys. I've seen one of you hitting 404fsb but can't remeber who...

makes me wanna give this K8N a go once again.

cpulloverclock
01-25-2004, 11:34 AM
nice job raoh!!! :toast:

QuadDamage
01-25-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
and ya need a 3400+ and a ti4600 ;)

already have one. One of those vintage ones but still i wanna check it out:) 3400+, you say? tempting.

niaboc79
01-25-2004, 03:47 PM
my new 3200+ with maze 4

http://www.yamafoto.com/users/niaboc79/images/13916/A64_3200_0344SPMW.JPG

http://www.yamafoto.com/users/niaboc79/images/13916/config_A64_001p.jpg

http://www.yamafoto.com/users/niaboc79/hr/13916/pi1m34s2.jpg

http://www.yamafoto.com/users/niaboc79/hr/13916/sandra04_2556.jpg

niaboc79
01-25-2004, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by QuadDamage
nice to see Japanese folks here finally:toast: awesome numbers guys. I've seen one of you hitting 404fsb but can't remeber who...

makes me wanna give this K8N a go once again.

my max fsb is 390 on my K8NNXP

felgen
01-26-2004, 03:09 AM
A good amd 64 OC mobo?????

Asus K8V DELUXE (http://www.hwb.no/aspx/prdinfo.aspx?plid=1368)

Tiger[DK]
01-26-2004, 03:40 AM
Hi, i am new on this forum, i have however been reading i thouroghly.

I have a question!

How the H***!, can you get that high vcore on your A64??.

My machine wont even boot with more than 1,56vcore :(, i dont get it, it is even with stockspeed i got the problem, and i dont have any probs with heat, since my cpu is watercooled... it is max 27 degrees celsius under load!.


Do you have any suggestions to my problem?.

Epsilon
01-26-2004, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by felgen
A good amd 64 OC mobo?????

Asus K8V DELUXE (http://www.hwb.no/aspx/prdinfo.aspx?plid=1368)
Well, i have that mobo and it is running well.

The mobo is ok, but it lacks a very usefull feature (2 actually).

-To run your CPU @ 5:4 of the DDR clocks

-a pci / agp lock

Without the lock, it is hard to hit over 250mhz FSB. The PCI and AGP cards and HD's aren't keeping up.

I recommend u to buy an other mobo ;)
or buy mine :P

felgen
01-26-2004, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by Epsilon
Well, i have that mobo and it is running well.

The mobo is ok, but it lacks a very usefull feature (2 actually).

-To run your CPU @ 5:4 of the DDR clocks

-a pci / agp lock

Without the lock, it is hard to hit over 250mhz FSB. The PCI and AGP cards and HD's aren't keeping up.

I recommend u to buy an other mobo ;)
or buy mine :P


hmm, dunno what i shall shop:mad:

Happy^
01-26-2004, 07:14 AM
Oh yeah, i now have WC again !! :D

20500 Points @ 2000Mhz @ 420/720 on GFX (9800Pro)

Is that okay ??

s e t h
01-26-2004, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by Tiger[DK]
Hi, i am new on this forum, i have however been reading i thouroghly.

I have a question!

How the H***!, can you get that high vcore on your A64??.

My machine wont even boot with more than 1,56vcore :(, i dont get it, it is even with stockspeed i got the problem, and i dont have any probs with heat, since my cpu is watercooled... it is max 27 degrees celsius under load!.


Do you have any suggestions to my problem?.

welcome. glad you stopped lurking.

that board you have has a very limiting bios. you will need to vmod the board so that you can manually decide how much voltage your cpu can handle.

here are the necessary pics: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20190&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

Tiger[DK]
01-26-2004, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by flytek
welcome. glad you stopped lurking.

that board you have has a very limiting bios. you will need to vmod the board so that you can manually decide how much voltage your cpu can handle.

here are the necessary pics: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20190&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

does the bios limit so that i can't use the vcore setting above 1,55?. I can set the vcore to 1,7 in the bios.

s e t h
01-26-2004, 07:47 AM
hmmm. i thought 1.55 was the max. maybe not on your board. must be your psu then. what type is it?

Tiger[DK]
01-26-2004, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by flytek
hmmm. i thought 1.55 was the max. maybe not on your board. must be your psu then. what type is it?

it is a brand new Antec truepower 480w, but it should be suffecient, because i dont have so many powerhungry components in it.

s e t h
01-26-2004, 07:55 AM
that antec should be fine. maybe you should try a new bios for your board. last time i flashed a gigabyte board it never posted again so be careful.

Tiger[DK]
01-26-2004, 07:57 AM
ok, i will try to find another Bios, i use the newest available from thir HP. But i will keep you posted, when i have tried it out.

-Tiger

Happy^
01-26-2004, 08:13 AM
Tiger --> Godt at sen endnu en dansker herinde :p:
Vi har sgu ens reservoir! Hvilken farver er dit ??

Hvad er temp hos dig @ CPU ??


I've got a CPU temp @ 33C idle with WC and WC on gfx. It should be okay, right ??:stick:

Tiger[DK]
01-26-2004, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Happy^
Tiger --> Godt at sen endnu en dansker herinde :p:
Vi har sgu ens reservoir! Hvilken farver er dit ??

Hvad er temp hos dig @ CPU ??


I've got a CPU temp @ 33C idle with WC and WC on gfx. It should be okay, right ??:stick:

Hej Happy! :).

My resovoir is clear acryllic, it's nice!.


My temp on the cpu is 27 degrees at 2200mhz, and both 120mm fans turned on at lowest possible speed.

Tiger[DK]
01-26-2004, 09:06 AM
I got a new bios now, and i can move the vcore to 1,7. So now the cpu my maximum overclock is 10*237 = 2370mhz@28 degrees, both fans on full speed.

Dunno what's holding me back..

Is it safe to add more voltage on vddq, and vd-ht something?.

s e t h
01-26-2004, 09:20 AM
turn down ldt in the bios from 2.5x to 2x or even 1x

Happy^
01-26-2004, 10:28 AM
Tiger --> We both have problems :/

I cant even run 215*10 @ 1.7V with max VDimm :/ And adding more power to the chipset doesn't help.

Hmm my cpu is 35C idle @ 2100Mhz with an EVO360 with 3x120mm Papst @ 7V ... How the h*** can yours be 28C @ 2200Mhz with a dualradiator ??

Tiger[DK]
01-26-2004, 10:36 AM
Happy,

your radiator have 8mm fittings, and is a singlepass radiator. Mine is a multipass, and i use a Hydor L30 which is equal to a Eheim 1250 pump, and you also cool your vidcard, where i only cool my cpu ;).

After a sisoft burnin test it is about 31-32 degrees, but not higher.. and that is at 2350mhz.

Flytek->

At 2350mhz i run it at LDT 2, i haven't tried LDT 1 yet.

Happy^
01-26-2004, 10:57 AM
Tiger,

Give link to your radiator then :D


Why can't i run 215*10 @ 1.7V ??!! :(

Tiger[DK]
01-26-2004, 11:00 AM
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Radiators/heatercore.asp

it is then one at the bottom of the page :)

Happy^
01-26-2004, 12:15 PM
Then the other question: Why can't i run 215*10 @ 1.7V Vcore and with max VDimm ?? (LDT 2.5)

s e t h
01-27-2004, 01:28 AM
too much vdimm can be as bad as too little

Happy^
01-27-2004, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by flytek
too much vdimm can be as bad as too little

Ok, but it's the same thing @ 2.7V and 2.8V - it won't start up :confused:

s e t h
01-27-2004, 04:38 AM
try running the memory async at ddr333. what memory you got?

Happy^
01-27-2004, 06:21 AM
I can't even change that ...

And i dont thinkt it helps, becuase now i can't start my computer with the Mushkin ram in it !! :(

When the are in, it just come with a long bip and one more later, after that the gfx start bipping like hell ...

Hmm ... I still got my Corsair (BH-5 too), so i tried them, and guess what ... it started like normally ...

Damn Mushkin isn't good for a Chaintech mobo :(

cpulloverclock
01-27-2004, 06:31 AM
wowww KAWABUNGA!!!!!

M/B: GA-K8N Pro / BIOS: K8NNXP-940.F2
CPU: Athlon64 3200+ CAAAC? 0344
CPU Cooling: …—â(Poseidon)
Chipset Cooling: microcool NorthPole
Memory: Corsair PC2700LL 256MB x1
VGA: Matrox G450 PCI
HDD: HITACHI HDS722512VLAT80
Power suplly: Zippy-460W(ƒVƒXƒeƒ€—p) & AOpen FSP400-60GN(ƒhƒ‰ƒCƒu—p)
Vcore: 1.85V, Vddr/Vbt: 3.590/1.790V, Vio: 3.977V

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http://219.113.251.125/c-board/file/39s_383.63x5.5.png

marius7
01-27-2004, 12:43 PM
AMD Athlon 64 CG will give better memory performance
Plus more compatibility

ANOTHER Taiwanese mainboard manufacturer, this time Shuttle, has given insight into the next major silicon revision of a forthcoming microprocessor.

A PDF, available for public download at Shuttle's site here, refers to BIOS version FN85S015, for the mainboard within its AMD Athlon 64 based Shuttle SN85G4 Small Form Factor PC.

Right at the top of the supported CPU list for this BIOS is an interesting entry: AMD Athlon 64 3400+ CG…

French, well Canadian, system integrator friends of The INQ tell us that the "CG" revision of Athlon 64 brings greater performance via "2T memory timing enhancements that will enable support of higher density and/or higher frequency memory modules".

Additionally, forthcoming "CG" revisions of the AMD Athlon 64 will not require identically paired DDR DIMM modules for the second and third slots in mainboards with three DIMM slots.

Expect "CG" revisions of Athlon 64 to start rolling from the AMD’s fabrication facilities before the start of Q2 this year.

"CG" variants of the Athlon 64 can be identified under the new CPU ID of 0000F4AH and current Socket 754 mainboards should only require a BIOS microcode update to correctly identify the processor.

We might also mention one detail in our earlier story, "AMD turns heat on Intel with Athlon 64 FX", might be subject to change and that is that AMD Athlon 64 FX for Socket 939 will, as we revealed, not require Registered DDR, but it's possible that Socket 940 parts will. Sorry guys – we do our best!

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13844




Anyone with an CG revision ? :D :D :D

o27
01-28-2004, 02:44 AM
Nice to see some fellow danes in here!
Det var da utroligt med alle de dansker herinde efterhånden:toast:

Orak
01-28-2004, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by felgen
hmm, dunno what i shall shop:mad:

Gigabyte K8N (hwb.no) or a Shuttle AN50R (overclockers.se)

The Shuttle mobo is best but you must wait a little longer to get it in to Norway.
I have K8N my self and it works great.. hf :toast:

Pejsen
01-28-2004, 10:53 AM
I've spend like an hour or so just reading throug this A64 sticky thread and some others.. and my founds are that if you wanna get the A64 you should be aware that:

1) Too high Vdimm will probably kill your chip, same thing for high chipset voltage right?

2) The Shuttle or Gigabyte motherboard is the way to go?

3) Avoid XP3000 due to the lack of cache? Grab a Xp3200 instead.

4) What about multi's wich are unloecked


thans for help :)

s e t h
01-28-2004, 11:16 AM
1 maybe - maybe not
2 for xtreme overclocking at this time - yes
3 not if price/performance is your goal
4 lower multies can usually be accessed using software. some bios' too

Pejsen
01-28-2004, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by flytek
1 maybe - maybe not
2 for xtreme overclocking at this time - yes
3 not if price/performance is your goal
4 lower multies can usually be accessed using software. some bios' too

Thx for the help :)

I have BH5 Mushkin mem, will they do allright? I also have a-data PC4000 are thet better?

And once again wich board would you go with?

How about PCI/AGP lock?

Sorry for asking all these questions, but you guys always been helpfull and wise :toast:

soccrstar
01-28-2004, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Pejsen
How about PCI/AGP lock?

as for pci/agp lock...

NO athlon64 board supports has pci lock

only NF3 has AGP lock

the top 2 athlon64 boards r the gigabyte and the shuttle boards....

take ur pic

almost everyone will say shuttle

if you not going to overclock than i highly suggest a VIA chipset board such as Asus K8V or the Abit K8v-max3

Pejsen
01-28-2004, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by soccrstar
as for pci/agp lock...

NO athlon64 board supports has pci lock

only NF3 has AGP lock

the top 2 athlon64 boards r the gigabyte and the shuttle boards....

take ur pic

almost everyone will say shuttle

if you not going to overclock than i highly suggest a VIA chipset board such as Asus K8V or the Abit K8v-max3


Well now i know what's coming my way :D

just ordered my second prometeia :banana:

Happy^
01-29-2004, 02:00 PM
Pejsen --> Jamen hej :D Er du også her ?! :)

Vi må sgu lige snakke sammen, jeg har lidt probs med mit Chaintech mobo (AMD64) - hvis du gider ??


Which mobo is the best for AMD64 3200+ ?? I've looked on a Albatron K8X800 ProII - would that be better than my Chaintech ??

o27
01-30-2004, 02:29 AM
lol der er mange dansker herinde lige for tiden!

What kind of problems do you have with the chaintech happy? ´cause i just ordered one myself!

Happy^
01-30-2004, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by rro
lol der er mange dansker herinde lige for tiden!

What kind of problems do you have with the chaintech happy? ´cause i just ordered one myself!

My Mushkin dosn't work 100% with that mobo. And the 3rd IDE port is damn weird! When something is connected on that port, it just won't startup ... And the same thing happens with my dads Chaintech.

And when i flashed the BIOS it sat Password on it ... Hmm ...

So i have to buy another mobo.

s e t h
01-30-2004, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by Happy^


And when i flashed the BIOS it sat Password on it ... Hmm ...

So i have to buy another mobo.

clear cmos?

o27
01-30-2004, 06:28 AM
sounds pretty §§§§ty since i´ve also just ordered 1gig of mushkin bl2!!!!

Happy^
01-30-2004, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by flytek
clear cmos?

Sorry, I didn't tell that ive just removed the batteri and waited 30 minutes - and the pass was removed.

:)

But the mobo sucks anyway :p:

Rokk1972
01-30-2004, 12:53 PM
between me and a buddy of mine, we went thru 7 total chaintech mobo then gave up on them. I now run a KV8, and I am not sure what my bud ended up with. But on my 1st chaintech it ran for 6 hours then a trace blew on the back side of the mobe. my 2nd one never posted, my third one ran for week then the bios would corrupt, over and over again. my 4th had 2 dead mem ports. my buddy had various problems with his, no 2 had the same problem. I really wanted the chaintech board, but I had to give up on it. Can't say that I didn't give it a chance.

Now with the KV8, i am up and running smooth with a small OC (2.4 on H2O)

s e t h
01-31-2004, 02:18 AM
20 of the brand new athlon64 3000+ 0352 xpmw have arrived in my country. luckily two days ago i sold my 3200+ 0330 upmw and soltek mobo. it was always my chip holding me back needing 1,7vcore to do 2.2ghz on air through prime95. so lucky me it's time for my second personal athlon64 rig. :)

s e t h
01-31-2004, 02:30 AM
this is the best i cracked on air. only vgpu mod. 2 sticks of hyperx at 2.8vdimm. can't wait to give these babies some more juice

ThorinMan
02-02-2004, 01:47 AM
I posted earlier and i just poped off my water block. And guess what?! I got a brownie. Bot sure if was this thread that noticed the brown chips where running better but mine will do 240+ on stock vcore. heres a pic of the chip. What do you think of the steping? http://66.74.199.16/images/chip.jpg
ADA3200AEP5AP
CAAMC 0341RPMW
9448135J30215

s e t h
02-02-2004, 03:46 AM
2400 on stock is real good. prime95 stable?

EmineM
02-02-2004, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by pc ice
geting closer to 3ghz.:)
thats it I gotta do a vcore mod now ^^

ThorinMan
02-02-2004, 02:28 PM
Yeah prime 95 stable. But my memory cant keep up to it so its set at 333 in the bios but i think it runs at 202 or 404 mhz or somthing closed to that. but yeah i am trying to get my ram to go higher mhz so that i can see what this baby can do.

cpulloverclock
02-03-2004, 03:56 PM
last score (not me, I'd like :mad: )

Shuttle AN50R & a 3400+
http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/images/MAX4/CIMAan50r_370_53s.png

zakelwe
02-04-2004, 12:25 AM
Although of accademical interest these max hypertranport speeds do little for me when the cpu speed is so low. I can understand wanting to to have 400x5 rather than 200x10 if you are going to run at 2000, but when the total of the multiplier and clock speed goes down then you have struggled and struggled just to make your machine slower.

Hoping I don't get burnt as a heretic :)

Regards

Andy

TheDude
02-04-2004, 12:27 AM
Andy,
I have to agree....fun to do (once) but seems an awful lot is being made of it and I don't see why? :confused: Unless maybe to test your ram?

`schr0et
02-04-2004, 12:34 AM
Because FSB = life ;)

zakelwe
02-04-2004, 12:59 AM
The rather amusing thing is that this thread is called athlon64 overclock record and that chap on his crystalcpuid has managed a fantastic overclock of -32.7% :D

I can imagine the champers being cracked open when he reaches 500Mhz ... that will be a mighty 2Ghz total

To save you working it out, that's an AMD rating of 3200+

:eek:

Regards

Andy

s e t h
02-04-2004, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by pc ice
geting closer to 3ghz.:)

hey mr ice is that your 3000+xpmw under a cascade or what? it's certainly moving. not to bad on that voltage iether

Losty
02-04-2004, 02:12 AM
yo all at xtremesystems..
Ive just got my 3200+
Here's the stepping: ADA3200AEP5AP
CAAMC 0339WPMW

Any1 knows if its any good?
Its directly from AMD hq

Losty
02-04-2004, 02:43 AM
btw, anybody knows how to see if my ram got bh5 chips?

Info; CMX256A-3200LLPT / XMS3205 v1.1

400mhz rated 2-2-2-6 - T1

s e t h
02-04-2004, 04:56 AM
you wanna post why you're getting all those deaths? i don't see your comments in the a64 death thread

cpulloverclock
02-04-2004, 10:43 AM
New edit

always a SHUTTLE AN50R & a 3400+

373.50 -->DDR747

http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/images/MAX4/CIMAan50r_373.50_52s.png

charlie
02-04-2004, 11:40 AM
That's nice and everything but what does it prove? I don't care if it's FSB 37,788 if it's clocked at 1ghz or doesn't affect benchies. I'd be much MORE impressed by 9 x 315

C

Astennu
02-04-2004, 12:05 PM
My prom kid is inn now only the shuttle to go. I hope it wont die after modding :(

soccrstar
02-04-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Astennu
My prom kid is inn now only the shuttle to go. I hope it wont die after modding :(

than use smd grabbers

Astennu
02-04-2004, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by soccrstar
than use smd grabbers

okeey but if the voltages jump the board will still get killed. thats te problem.

blinky
02-04-2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Losty
btw, anybody knows how to see if my ram got bh5 chips?

Info; CMX256A-3200LLPT / XMS3205 v1.1

400mhz rated 2-2-2-6 - T1 yes this is BH5 all corsair that are v1.1 are BH5, i even have some myself

and keep up the good work guys sooner or later well solve the A64 death problem definitively and maybe some poor processors will be saved:toast:

Losty
02-05-2004, 04:45 AM
thanks for the answer blinky :) Got that cleared now..

soccrstar
02-05-2004, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by pc ice
becuase they like to die when i give thenm 2v.

2v vcore?

maby they jus like the p4s? that dont like 1.75V

a64s dont like 2V?

A64'uSER
02-05-2004, 02:32 PM
Hey! Im new here ;)

I'm gonna buy a Shuttle AN50R to my lovely A64 3200+ :P

How high do you think i can get it with stock cooling?

CodeRed
02-05-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by A64'uSER
Hey! Im new here ;)

I'm gonna buy a Shuttle AN50R to my lovely A64 3200+ :P

How high do you think i can get it with stock cooling?

2.3 to 2.5 GHz depending on your ambient and your luck :)

shimmishim
02-05-2004, 10:22 PM
anyone seen this cpu stepping/batch?

CAAAC 0345RPMW
9457135K30301

don't see any A's as the 4th letter... lots of K and O's but no A's...

hmm...

luihed
02-05-2004, 11:19 PM
I just got mine 3200+ #3 and the stepping is similar to yours

CAAMC 0345 S???

So far doing 2350mhz and priming with stock hsf.... gonna let it run for a while on air, maybe this weekend she goes in the chiller..... temps are pretty bad at 59c on the bios at 1.7v....... hate to know what her temp is right now when running prime.....

Its a brownie btw

zakelwe
02-06-2004, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by shimmishim
anyone seen this cpu stepping/batch?

CAAAC 0345RPMW
9457135K30301

don't see any A's as the 4th letter... lots of K and O's but no A's...

hmm...

Are you sure it is not CAAKC ?

Stepping goes from CAAKC -> CAAMC -> CAAOC ( for 3400+ at least )

Regards
Andy

shimmishim
02-06-2004, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by zakelwe
Are you sure it is not CAAKC ?

Stepping goes from CAAKC -> CAAMC -> CAAOC ( for 3400+ at least )

Regards
Andy

http://www.johnshim.com/images/IMG_0105.jpg

so what's up with my chip???

Anyone else seen a CAAAC before?

luihed
02-06-2004, 09:14 AM
My last one that died was a CAAAC.... did 2650 on the chiller and it was a greenie too.....

Losty
02-06-2004, 08:03 PM
im doing fully stable @ fsb 233... and thats on a via board ;)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7527821

I max hoped for fsb 225, so im happy.

|RickY|
02-06-2004, 10:08 PM
this is my a64 3400+ on r404a promy:

http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/a64/3ghz.JPG

but benchable, only this :D

http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/a64/371.JPG

Maximus
02-07-2004, 12:49 AM
http://home.mchsi.com/~lord-maximus/cpu1.jpg

My CAAMC...but its a 3400...

Losty
02-07-2004, 04:13 AM
which motherboard should I choose? A shuttle or the gigabyte?
This abit board is really killing my 9800pro im affraid.. :(

A64'uSER
02-07-2004, 04:37 AM
I have heard that the Gigabyte can handle the higher MegaHertz, but that the Shuttle is a very good overclocker, so i am going to buy the Shuttle on Thursday :P

[_Silence_]
02-07-2004, 05:55 AM
Been playing with the latest K8NPRO Bios and guess what....my 3000+ hit 3Ghzs, pic is in the attach.

[_Silence_]
02-07-2004, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by pc ice
diogojcr
look's good what cooling.

r404a Prommy. But i have to calibrate my promy its giving me only -39 on the display when i have the Vcore @ 1.96.

Whats your cooling?

cpulloverclock
02-07-2004, 05:38 PM
always the same guy...

DDR762

Shuttle AN50R + 3400+

http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/images/MAX4/CIMAan50r_381_51s.png

Bennah
02-07-2004, 06:29 PM
Couldnt ya get any more out of that memory or wot....:D

soccrstar
02-07-2004, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by cpulloverclock
always the same guy...

DDR762

Shuttle AN50R + 3400+

http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/images/MAX4/CIMAan50r_381_51s.png

set the multipler to 6 to run it back to stock speeds

and do a bench

copyman
02-07-2004, 08:48 PM
hell, 600w @ -55ºc Power duall chiller (Powered by r404a & methanol) and I don't get time to finish my air lite box

still air cooled

giga k8nnxp is a good motherboard but my k8v dlx kicks it far away even with fsb to 290mhz in the same processor overclock "2480mhz"

http://www.watercooler.com.br/mem4.jpg

macci
02-08-2004, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by pc ice
why dont you run a 3dmark with that fsb..i would think thatr 700+ fsb would be alot faster than 51sec...what a bummer.
He is pushing it for the SuperPi 4x multi ranking (http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/MAX4.htm).
51 sec at 1.5GHz is quite good result IMO :D

That kind of RAM speeds are possible with 4x multi and low CPU MHz only. 381 1:1 is totally insane thou :toast:

blinky
02-08-2004, 02:09 AM
so what makes the 4x mutli enable really high ram speeds, other than that the CPU clock stays low

s e t h
02-08-2004, 03:19 AM
i reckon the cpu only calls to the ram a lot less often with a low multi. for instance ram bandwith definately changed on 32bit amd rigs when going from a 10 multi to a 12 multi. so higher multies push ram harder.

Kunaak
02-09-2004, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by macci
He is pushing it for the SuperPi 4x multi ranking (http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/MAX4.htm).
51 sec at 1.5GHz is quite good result IMO :D

That kind of RAM speeds are possible with 4x multi and low CPU MHz only. 381 1:1 is totally insane thou :toast:

macci,

take a look at Magnums 340 1:1 shot in spot 12 ;)

nutcase
02-09-2004, 10:43 AM
need a little help here...

Just corrupted the Bios on My Shutttle AN50R and need to get a new Bios chip as fast as I can...

I asked here as ALL of you are athlon64 users and somebody has to have done it before..

Need to know where I can get a replacement Bios Chip as Shuttle is slower than Molasses in replying to my request.

Formann
02-09-2004, 12:13 PM
A64 3200+
CAAMC 0339WPMW "9" ..0072 (greenie)

2.36 @ 1.7 for prime
2.39 @ 1.7 for 3d

Using the retail HSF

Hoping to reach ~2.6 in my vapo after vmod.

A64'uSER
02-09-2004, 03:10 PM
Well i have the same stepping as you. Do you know if it's a good one? And how high do you think i can get with it on a Shuttle AN50R and stock cooling?

Formann
02-09-2004, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by A64'uSER
Well i have the same stepping as you. Do you know if it's a good one? And how high do you think i can get with it on a Shuttle AN50R and stock cooling?

It seems fairly good, but no golden sample. Even tho you have the same stepping they might, and problably will oc very different. I dare not guess what it might do as this will only be wild guessing.

I wish you luck with it tho :)