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spoof
10-12-2008, 07:15 AM
Hi there all. I'm working on my first LC system and i was able to handle all problem exept this -
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4919/121020083986jl8.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=121020083986jl8.jpg)http://img504.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9488/121020083987de2.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=121020083987de2.jpg)http://img504.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
What should i do?

sirheck
10-12-2008, 07:18 AM
Your ok if it doesnt kink.

But if it does you could use zipties or smart coils.

Something like these.
http://www.jab-tech.com/Coolsleeves-c-251.html

spoof
10-12-2008, 07:28 AM
You need to address the flattening of your tubing, quick...

What do you mean by this??

http://members.shaw.ca/virtualrain/tubing/tubing-multibend.jpg < - it's like the middle one.

IanY
10-12-2008, 07:30 AM
Tubing runs are too tight. You need to add more slack and the issue will be resolved.

You need to use thick walled Tygon tubing to avoid kinks.

spoof
10-12-2008, 07:34 AM
Tubing runs are too tight. You need to add more slack and the issue will be resolved.

You need to use thick walled Tygon tubing to avoid kinks.

You mean the tubing should be longer or what? If it's longer it will confront with system memory.


You are restricting flow, due to your "ROUND" tubing, deforming into "SEMI-FLAT" tubing, due to your improper radius bends you chose...:shakes:

Ok, but the possition of the res isn't leave me a choice.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9206/121020083988vt3.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=121020083988vt3.jpg)http://img222.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

IanY
10-12-2008, 07:36 AM
A bit more slack. Not too tight from barb to barb. Its just PVC vinyl and won't short out your memory lol

Yes, a tiny bit longer. I'll bet that 3 cm or 4 cm would do the trick.

You are very aggressive with your bends.

TedShred
10-12-2008, 07:40 AM
fwiw, the mess 'o tubes on my Coolit hits the (rather tall) heat sinks on my ocz's. It worried me at first, but never has caused any problems and doesn't seem to affect my CPU temps. (Though I guess it's not exactly the same thing.)

spoof
10-12-2008, 07:44 AM
Then reposition your res for pete's sake...:shocked:

Use longer runs of tubing, too...:up:

I searched the entire forum and did't find any better place. First i tried over the hdd case, but i had problem with T-line. Any suggestions would be greate.

IanY
10-12-2008, 07:45 AM
Once again, I appauld you for reading the FAQs and you have followed the "experts'" advice on tubing, but please, you are way too aggressive with the short tubing runs.

The sky won't fall if you give it some slack. I'm sure you have a strong pump (haven't checked). Lengthen the tubing by 3 cm to 6 cm lol

spoof
10-12-2008, 07:55 AM
Ok, maybe i'll turn the radiator, so the fitting would be at the other side of the case and that will solve the kink problem and the short outlet tubing. Still i think, that the T-line configuration is good this way.

IanY
10-12-2008, 07:57 AM
Like I said, no need tomove anything. Just lengthen the tubing.

Eddie3dfx
10-12-2008, 08:18 AM
Thin wall tubing stinks.
Sometimes if may seem that it doesn't kink, but when the pump is on, the sucking motion actually cripple it by itself.
You should and cannot use thin wall tubing.

spoof
10-12-2008, 09:48 AM
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3535/121020083989ke6.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=121020083989ke6.jpg)http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3241/121020083991ps2.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=121020083991ps2.jpg)http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9437/121020083992pa6.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=121020083992pa6.jpg)http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1500/121020083993ny6.th.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=121020083993ny6.jpg)http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7264/121020083994np2.th.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=121020083994np2.jpg)http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3783/121020083995ht5.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=121020083995ht5.jpg)

Is this ok this time or the tubing should be again a bit longer?

hoax
10-12-2008, 10:25 AM
you are going to waste a lot of tubbing if you cut it short again. best to cut a couple cm bigger, make SURE there are no kinks, then and only then, IF you can make them shorter without kinks, you can slowly remove a centimeter at a time until its the 'perfect' size witout kinks. will save you a lot of tubbing this way.

as others have said, the routing looks fine, just add more tubbing. good luck :)

AndrewZorn
10-12-2008, 11:10 AM
I tired of kinks and not being able to remove certain components easily without draining my loop. The result is this:

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5832/p1010228nh1.jpg

I didn't want it to end up THAT long, but oh well, I cannot imagine it makes 1*C difference.

anubis_is_evil
10-12-2008, 11:23 AM
AndrewZorn : well that is trully quite long enough..

spoof : i prefer add elbow fitting into the tube, where is take place the tube can be kink..

StAndrew
10-12-2008, 02:01 PM
Just use the tube coils. I have much sharper bends in my tubes and no kinking at all with some smart coil!

spoof
10-14-2008, 07:34 AM
Ok, all done, working and cooling - now questions. First - idle i have huge difference between #0,#1 temps and #2,#3 temps - 39/39 and 47/47. Load @ 3.2Ghz@stock VCORE the temps are 54/54 and 58/58. Isn't this temps too high for stock VCORE? Fuzion v2+MCP320+3xNoiseblocker 120mm NB-BlackSilentFan XL2. And after Prime95 the temps fall down too slow.

kinghong1970
10-14-2008, 07:47 AM
Just use the tube coils. I have much sharper bends in my tubes and no kinking at all with some smart coil!

hmm... i guess you have not seen kinking within the smartcoils, eh?

kinda kinks and folds and collapses... and thinking the smartcoils are enough... i just ignored it for a bit and the tube is perma-kinked... lol

no probs using smartcoils... just check em here and there...

OP, i find twisting the tubes gives it some more bendability...

NaeKuh
10-14-2008, 07:57 AM
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/big14shsianf1.html

replace your crap plastic inlet barb (top one incase you dont know) with what i just linked.

Should take care of the kinking and also make your tubing shorter.

Simple fixes are always the best :up:

Option 2, although a bit more ghetto is to ziptie pinch the middle where the tubing is collapsing like so:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_0001.jpg

However it seems like your tubing is way more collapsed, so i really recomend that bitspower 90 instead and you end it there.

spoof
10-14-2008, 08:05 AM
Guys, it's in the case and it's working, i just have some question.