Might be buying this car very soon!

[kraifect]

delete.

[Shaz]

You're buying something like that as a first? Get something that won't matter too much about denting as a first car. Plus Boras are pretty heavy. (the mk4 Jetta is a Bora in the UK.)

[Zytek_Fan]

Not a bad choice, but here's a few I liked:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=252634943&dealer_id=56377870&car_year=1998&model=&num_records=25&systime=&make3=BMW&make2=AUDI&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1990&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=used&distance=50&marketZipError=false&model3=&model2=&search_lang=en&sownerid=63337771&showZipError=n&make=MB&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=34952&advanced=&end_year=2003&doors=&transmission=&max_price=7000&cardist=8
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=242700072&dealer_id=62420693&car_year=1995&model=&num_records=25&systime=&make3=BMW&make2=AUDI&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1990&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=used&distance=50&marketZipError=false&model3=&model2=&search_lang=en&sownerid=63337771&showZipError=n&make=MB&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=34952&advanced=&end_year=2003&doors=&transmission=&max_price=7000&cardist=34
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=252222929&dealer_id=100024014&car_year=2000&model=&num_records=25&systime=&make3=BMW&make2=AUDI&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1990&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=used&distance=50&marketZipError=false&model3=&model2=&search_lang=en&sownerid=63337771&showZipError=n&make=MB&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=34952&advanced=&end_year=2003&doors=&transmission=&max_price=7000&cardist=56
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=252160358&dealer_id=63339595&car_year=1996&model=&num_records=25&systime=&make3=BMW&make2=AUDI&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1990&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=used&distance=50&marketZipError=false&model3=&model2=&search_lang=en&sownerid=63337771&showZipError=n&make=MB&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=34952&advanced=&end_year=2003&doors=&transmission=&max_price=7000&cardist=59
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=249491272&dealer_id=63111813&car_year=1997&model=&num_records=25&systime=&make3=BMW&make2=AUDI&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1990&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=used&distance=50&marketZipError=false&model3=&model2=&search_lang=en&sownerid=63337771&showZipError=n&make=MB&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=34952&advanced=&end_year=2003&doors=&transmission=&max_price=7000&cardist=48
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=251791014&dealer_id=63307839&car_year=1998&model=&num_records=25&systime=&make3=BMW&make2=AUDI&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1990&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=used&distance=50&marketZipError=false&model3=&model2=&search_lang=en&sownerid=63337771&showZipError=n&make=MB&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=34952&advanced=&end_year=2003&doors=&transmission=&max_price=7000&cardist=34


They all look pretty good.
And don't let anyone tell you not to get a Euro. It's still a common misconception that they are unreliable and expensive to maintain. Some parts may be more expensive, but most are about the same as Domestic and Japanese. And if you have some mechanical inclination, it's a bit fun to be able to fix your own car, and it saves you money over the stealerships.

[kraifect]

I want a car with below 100k miles.. a car that will last me more than a year 100k miles+ wont last long..

[Zytek_Fan]

I want a car with below 100k miles.. a car that will last me more than a year 100k miles+ wont last long..

100k miles isn't that much anymore.
Any of those cars, if taken care of should go well beyond 200,000, especially the Merc :up:

[kraifect]

My dad thinks the car I picked out with what 66k miles is alot.. theres no way hes getting me one with 100k.

[cabbspapp]

66k is nothing...

[kraifect]

66k is nothing...

Its because hes used to buying cars brand new he never buys used cars so when he sees its a used car and has miles he automatically says oh wow thats alot of miles , he doesnt realize the cars 6 years old its goign to have miles and its my first car what can he expect.
Im most likely going to get this one though if the guy drops the price and if he doesnt im screwed.

[Zytek_Fan]

Its because hes used to buying cars brand new he never buys used cars so when he sees its a used car and has miles he automatically says oh wow thats alot of miles , he doesnt realize the cars 6 years old its goign to have miles and its my first car what can he expect.
Im most likely going to get this one though if the guy drops the price and if he doesnt im screwed.

Have you tried to convince your dad that 66k or even 100k+ isn't a lot of miles?

[[XC] leviathan18]

that 1.8t is lots of fun

[kraifect]

Isnt it good on gas?

[[XC] Lead Head]

100k was a lot back i the 60s and 70s when engines had poor tolerances, horrible fuel quality, and non over drive transmission. From the mid 80s and onwards, 160-180k is considered getting up there. If the price was right I wouldn't even stop to blink to buy a car with 140k on it.

[Zytek_Fan]

Isnt it good on gas?

Yep and damn reliable.

[aspire.comptech]

That seems a bit expensive for a car like that...

I got my 99 Taurus, yeah not my idea my dad bought it, for 2400 with 80k on it. Still running 2 years and about 8k miles later.

It's a ford, which are terrible, but it's large, comfortable, and decent on gas. Get about 25 on the highway...

[3lfk1ng]

Get about 25 on the highway...

The 1.8t will get around 32mpg hwy.

[Big Phil]

The 1.8t will get around 32mpg hwy.

If you drive under 3,500 rpm......dont light the turbo off.:yepp:

[Kingcarcas]

Very nice dude, i'm looking at a 90 something Jetta or Golf as my first car :D Integras are cheap too but i don't like the front-end and i'm sure they get stolen a lot.

[kraifect]

Im glad that im hearing its good on the gas, I like the turbo :D. Probably going to get a blow off valve and cold air intake if I do get this not sure though.
I used to like the integras then they just got out of style and turned ugly in my eyes.

[Celeron Gamer]

Im glad that im hearing its good on the gas, I like the turbo :D. Probably going to get a blow off valve and cold air intake if I do get this not sure though.
I used to like the integras then they just got out of style and turned ugly in my eyes.

what about fart cans and stickers?

[Nanometer]

A better price because of a police uniform? lol That sounds like a dysfunctional idea from the U.N.

[[XC] leviathan18]

for the 1.8 is better a DV and the cai is not a bad idea, your best bet right now if you plan to mod that car is to go to vwvortex

[TRF-Inferno]

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=244992523&dealer_id=1085785&car_year=2002&model=JET&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=2001&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=used&distance=50&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=VOLKS&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=34952&advanced=&end_year=2003&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=8&rdpage=thumb

Thats the link to the car, the actual place hes selling it at which is Nautic Trade is about 15 mins away from my house.
This guy is known to sell his cars for very high prices and the cars he has in his lot are all very nice cars such as corvettes, mercedes, bmw's etc. he has a variaty of cars.
I'm surprised no one pointed out the check engine light is on in one of the pictures.

[kraifect]

^ LOL WOW Good catch!! What does that mean is it really bad?

[reberto]

^ LOL WOW Good catch!! What does that mean is it really bad?

Possibly. It could be as small as just a dirty sensor (like a certain Range Rover in my parents garage) or something as large as a head gasket (like a certain Subaru Forester in my parents driveway)

[kraifect]

This light also shows up in my sisters Jeep Liberty but we havent gotten a chance to fix it.
I bet the guy feels stupid that he took that picture and didnt notice it

[TRF-Inferno]

This light also shows up in my sisters Jeep Liberty but we havent gotten a chance to fix it.
I bet the guy feels stupid that he took that picture and didnt notice it
Yeah, it's a pretty silly mistake, and certainly not going to help sell the car. As reberto states, a check engine light can come on for the most minor things, such as a reminder to do an oil change, or something major such as excessive knock/detonation. If you're truly interested in this car, I'd see if you can request for a prolonged test drive (10-20 minutes) if the check engine light is gone when you look at it, then go to Autozone and have them hook up a OBDII scanner to see if the code will pop up, which at that point they can tell you what is causing the light to come on.

[xsbb]

The gas mileage is going to be OK, as long as you don't let the turbo come on.

Poor Reliability here and there will make you appreciate low mileage cars.


German Reliability over 100k miles = not so great

German cars over 100k miles = money pit

Expensive parts + working on it by yourself = recurring headaches


If this is your first car.....

Just know what your getting yourself into.

(previous owner of B5 A4 1.8t)

[kraifect]

Maybe the light is only on because he just started the car when he took the pic doesnt that usually happen when you first start the car all the lights come on etc.

[TRF-Inferno]

Maybe the light is only on because he just started the car when he took the pic doesnt that usually happen when you first start the car all the lights come on etc.
Judging from the tachometer, it's idling when the picture was taken. Yes, the light would stay on if you had the key in the ON position without starting it, but I've never seen a car that keeps its CEL on more than 3-5 seconds after starting up.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

The gas mileage is going to be OK, as long as you don't let the turbo come on.

Poor Reliability here and there will make you appreciate low mileage cars.


Audi Reliability over 100k miles = not so great

Audis over 100k miles = money pit

Expensive parts + working on it by yourself = recurring headaches


If this is your first car.....

Just know what your getting yourself into.

(previous owner of B5 A4 1.8t)
fix'd

That because you had a B5. If he got a proper german car (MB, BMW) ;), he'd be fine after 100k. Probably up to 200-250k if he does regular maintenance of the engine.

[kraifect]

Scratch this car guys, it got sold yesterday :(.


BUT! Dont look on the downside! On the way home from school today the dealership literally 4 minutes walking distance away just got a 2002 Jetta for sale!.

This one is white, tinted windows, leather, automatic, has new rims/tires, automatic doors/seats etc. and 70k miles and is for sale for 7 grand.

[Kingcarcas]

That would be too rich for my blood, 98 Jetta maybe, i saw a sweet Audi A4 on ebay for cheap yesterday but i'm scared after what xsbb had to say :shrug: Guess i'll go back to looking at the Golf/corolla/integra/mx6.

[kraifect]

Heres some pics of the car....

Yes I know it looks weird becuase the tires are small and the rims arent exacly what you would call cool looking, they look cheap.

But I guess if I did get this they would deal with me for now untill I saved up enough for another set of rims.

What do you guys think of it?

Sorry for crappy pictures I dont have steady hands there always shaking and its from my camera phone.



http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p369/kraifect/1008081857.jpg
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[reberto]

And its a VR6 :D If you can afford it, its a pretty damn good car!

[[XC] leviathan18]

if its truly a vr6 its a nice engine, but then you will have to spend some money ditching those awful rims for a more euro ones go with some replicas of the audi ones they are cheap on ebay

the only issue of the vr6 is that isnt cheap to mod it

[Zytek_Fan]

leviathan18;3344125']if its truly a vr6 its a nice engine, but then you will have to spend some money ditching those awful rims for a more euro ones go with some replicas of the audi ones they are cheap on ebay

the only issue of the vr6 is that isnt cheap to mod it

And there's not a whole lot you can do with them :(

[reberto]

And there's not a whole lot you can do with them :(

Considering it's his first car, I don't think he should do much to it. When you have a second car, thats when you start tinkering around with one of them. Because if you screw up, you still have a car!

[xsbb]

It would help if you gave us your budget

[Zytek_Fan]

Considering it's his first car, I don't think he should do much to it. When you have a second car, thats when you start tinkering around with one of them. Because if you screw up, you still have a car!

Yeah.
I thought about messing around with my car with upgrades and such, but then I thought hell with it, I'll just wait until I have more money and a better car :up:

[cabbspapp]

leviathan18;3344125']but then you will have to spend some money ditching those awful rims for a more euro ones go with some replicas of the audi ones they are cheap on ebay



And if you're too cheap to get rid of those crappy chrome tail lights at least tint them.

[[XC] leviathan18]

no buy the black ones lol

[kraifect]

What does VR6 mean?

[[XC] leviathan18]

it uses a narrow angle 6 cil engine they sound mean and are very fast engines too but no turbo, you can add a supercharger or bi turbo later on but that is money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jmt300gVE8&feature=related

i love the sound of the vr6

[kraifect]

Right now I only have about 4K in the bank so i'll have to start working alot to pay it off.

[jaguarking11]

Just by looking at the car, I would say it was owned by a youngster who drove it like he stole it.

As for German cars being money pits with high miles, cant really say. My father stopped owning german cars after his m3 blew an engine in the late 80's and my godfather buys benz/audi and keeps em for 3years tops and then gets rid of them.

The only experience with modern german cars I have is my coworker owns an 2001 jetta tdi and its on its second engine as he bought it with what he thought was a blow turbo but turned out to be huge compression leaks and cylinders being oval from wear, most likely due to bad oil however, he is a gear head so he does the work himself and we always talk shop together.

[kraifect]

Scatch that car off the list to!

Went to look at the inside and drive it today, alot of things were wrong with the car, the radio didnt work, the rearview mirror was moldy and fogged, the sunroof cover was gone, armrest comparment broken didnt snap shut, car pulled to the right (probably needed an enlinment), the car sounded louder than it was faster (kinda like a ricer)... uhmm thats about it I think.

[[XC] leviathan18]

alignment is the proper word

[kraifect]

Yes that is it, sorry I did not realize we were in the national spelling bee here :D