is the gtz really better?

[xTKxhom3r]

hey i just "upgraded" from a apogee gt to a swiftech gtz and im getting the same exact temps... so is this right? or am i doing something wrong?

im clooking a 8400@4.5 with 1.45v

im using 1/2 ID tubing with a mcp655 pump and a swiftech 120.3 rad with 3 130cfm fans

my idle is 40c and my load is 70-75c (prime load)

could it be that i tightened my barbs to much? the O ring looks squished

[yonton228]

Maybe remount the block?
Too much thermal paste?


could it be that i tightened my barbs to much? the O ring looks squished

I dont see how that could affect temps, however tightening the barbs too much can possibly lead to leaks.

Just 2 quick thoughts.



-yonton228/timmy

[Nanometer]

The difference wont be night and day. The best I'd say would be 4 degrees.. and that's at best.

[xTKxhom3r]

well no leaks yet... i remounted it once cus i did put to much tim at first and it did help my temps by 5c but i dont think i need to remount again...

wow 4c ...that really sucks i was hoping to get atleast 7c less under load

[Factotum]

im clooking a 8400@4.5 with 1.45v
my idle is 40c and my load is 70-75c (prime load)
:eek::eek::eek:
i have GTX, MCP655 and ID7/16 tubing and second contour across spliter: second contour have Switech MCW30 and Swiftech MCW60-R.
my QX6850 have max 60C in prime and 35 idle with 475*8@1.46V
75C for dualcore and with one contour - very hot!!!!

[xTKxhom3r]

well im going to remount again right now just for kicks wish me luck :( i would love to be back in the 35idle 55load i miss my 3.6 q6600

[xTKxhom3r]

ok this is interesting when i took the block off all the tim was pushed out of the middle of the cpu so does this mean i need to lap my cpu? or did i just put the block to tight? i thought you were supposed to tighten the block untill the screws stoped.... right now i didnt tighten it all the way and my idle temps droped 2c so do i tighten it a little more or to i loosen it?

[Cralle!]

The block is suposed to be lika that? Because when i took my GTZ of the TIM hade done the same but i have really good load temps 31 idle/load 46 E6750@3.7 ghz

[_G_]

Do you have the block mounted in the correct orientation (locking lever towards the bottom) and the hoses routed properly? (hole with dot is inlet)

[xTKxhom3r]

yea the hoses are routed properly the inlet hose is at the bottom with the locking lever

[_G_]

Might be just a hot running chip(or crappy core/IHS bond)
Mounting screws should be bottomed(are the screws fully threaded to the step?)

[Mick64]

ok this is interesting when i took the block off all the tim was pushed out of the middle of the cpu so does this mean i need to lap my cpu? or did i just put the block to tight? i thought you were supposed to tighten the block untill the screws stoped.... right now i didnt tighten it all the way and my idle temps droped 2c so do i tighten it a little more or to i loosen it?

The TIM will be pushed from the middle of the IHS because the GTZ is bowed! :up: The screws should be fully tightened!

[Jazzman]

hey i just "upgraded" from a apogee gt to a swiftech gtz and im getting the same exact temps... so is this right? or am i doing something wrong?

im clooking a 8400@4.5 with 1.45v

im using 1/2 ID tubing with a mcp655 pump and a swiftech 120.3 rad with 3 130cfm fans

my idle is 40c and my load is 70-75c (prime load)

could it be that i tightened my barbs to much? the O ring looks squished

Two suggestions. First, try the two-line tim method. A single dollap in the middle is great for single core but some folks argue a dual or quad needs a different approach. The two line method coverage is seen here: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=170&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=4

Second, some have found that if the inlet is on top you get better heat dissipation.
yes for with flow coming in the top will stop heat spreading with cooler fluid keeping it to a minimum while heat rises and cold falls quenching the hot spots an moving heat to rad.

also depends on orientation of ports for fluid molecules to bounce or flow. Here is the url discussion: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201480

[Sparky]

Whoa 70+C is too hot. How warm is the air coming off the rad? Do you have any kinks in the tubing anywhere, or an airlock in the rad?

[Quad-Damage]

Wow my GTZ is 26c to 29c and 45c max load on E8500@ 4.15ghz

[xTKxhom3r]

so then the tim being pushed out from the middle is fine?

[Bojamijams]

yes.. that means the chip is making full contact with the block.

[xTKxhom3r]

so then is there any other ideas on why this is happening? btw is the tim the gtz came with any good? im almost out of AS5

[Conumdrum]

Yea, was there a thin piece of clear plastic on the bottom of the block? Seen it installed twice like that and temps were way to high. Not sure if that block has the plastic sheet on it.

Might check that.

The GTX paste should be decent.

[xTKxhom3r]

yea i removed that plastic....man this is so disappointing.....

[Sparky]

How warm is the air coming out of the rad?

[xTKxhom3r]

it doesnt feel to warm but not cold....

[_G_]

maybe its the motherboard not reading the temp sensor right, bios issue maybe?

[[XC] riptide]

Too hot mate. Somethings wrong. Thjats air temps you got right there. But make sure that the thermal sensors are working ok on that Wolf. They have a reputation to be crap.

[xTKxhom3r]

im sure their working if i lower the oc to 4.0 they are reasonably lower

[Mick64]

yea i removed that plastic....man this is so disappointing.....

"Disappointing!" I know the feeling. :down: I'm afraid to say that it might just be that you have a hot running chip, and you may not be able to get your temps much lower on water. I hope I'm wrong and you have more success than I've had. :up:

[fatman]

like what was said before, is there any kinks in the line, is your radiator cool to the touch, have you tried putting the inlet at the top?

[mindspat]

I would also like to see a few pics of the set up. Any available? ;)

[veedubfreak]

I went from the GT to GTZ myself and saw 0 improvements :( This is on a q6600 at 3.6 with 1.4v.

[xTKxhom3r]

I went from the GT to GTZ myself and saw 0 improvements :( This is on a q6600 at 3.6 with 1.4v.

oh man that sucks you just shot all my hope to the ground lol

no i dont have any pics or camera to take them with my stupid girl took my camera and my case isnt a pretty sight so..... but it doesnt look like theres any kinks...

[veedubfreak]

I mainly picked up the GT because its the only cpu block worth a crap that newegg carries, and when i ordered my 4870s and rampage i needed filler to hit the 1000 dollar mark for the 12 months no interest :D Then the gtz came out and i figured i'd try it, was disappointed to say the least.

[Hondacity]

i had the e8600 and the gtz and did lots of remounts and different vcores...at 1.4v cpu was pulling 70w more than at stock clocks 65w+70w(?) idled at around 33-35C loaded to around 55C this was at a modest 4ghz. after several weeks the gtz with its micro fins(?) filtered my waterloop...great! not! temps didn't really change but with its design its gonna be perform ok..but will require high maintenence too

guess which block i like most...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/hondacity25/P1010572.jpg