Hi, help needed for beginner!

[Jules007]

Hi,
I have just built my new machine last week and it is happily running stable with win XP 64 bit OS.
I am however wishing to overclock it but I'm not sure how to go about it. I have watched Shimano's Mars video on the subject but got confused at the very end! ( combining CPU with FSB).

Here is what I have and if anyone could set me in the right direction I would be very grateful.

Mars MB
Intel Q6600 Go
EZ cool 700w PSU
OCZ Technology 2x1GB PC2-6400 DDR2 Platinum
Akasa INTEL LGA775 3U HEATPIPE CU BASE LO-NOISE PWM FAN
Nvidia GeForce GTX 260

Temps CPU 38, System 36, NB 36 Average. Monitored with the new AEGIS panel
:)

[mpilchfamily]

Check the CPU section and read the guides.

[negev]

Get RealTemp to monitor your cores, don't let them get much higher than 60-65C

For stability testing use Prime95.

Google around for "quad core overclocking guide" and you'll probably find a lot more useful info, also look in the guides on this very forum.

[saaya]

what did you get confused with?
if you have any specific questions or need help with anything let me know :toast:

[Jules007]

Hi,
I'm trying to get my OC at 3200Mhz but I can not get it past 3000Mhz without it causing errors with prime95
here is what I have already done ..

Foxconn Mars

Gladiator BIOS

CPU Features - Sub Menu

EIST Function.........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal...................Disabled
C1E Function...........................Disabled
Execute Disable Bit...................Disabled
Virtualization Technology...........Disabled
Frequency Unlimit.....................Disabled
Core Multi Proceessing..............Enabled

Memory Timing Config - Sub Menu

Dram Timing Selectable
Cas Latency Time (tCL)............. 4T
Ras# to Cas# Delay (tRCD)......... 4T
Ras# Precharge (tRP)................ 4T
Precharge delay (tRAS).............. 15T
Write to Precharge (tWR)........... AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle (tRFC)........... AUTO
Write to Read Delay (tWTR)........ AUTO
Row to Row Delay (tRRD) ..........AUTO
Read to Precharge (tRTP)........... AUTO
Fast Chip Select....................... AUTO
Clock Per Command................... AUTO
Memory Channel0 DLL Adjust....... AUTO
Memory Channel1 DLL Adjust....... AUTO
Refresh Count Adjust................. AUTO
Performance Level.................... AUTO

All Voltage Control -Sub Menu

CPU Voltage Multiplier...............x 1.078 v
CPU Voltage Setting..................1.3125v
Target CPU Voltage...................1.44149v
Dram Voltage Setting.................2.115v
NB Voltage Setting....................1.312v
CPU VTT Voltage Setting ...........1.278v
SB Voltage Setting....................1.500v

Overclock Phase Select Manual O.C.

CPU Clock Ratio Unlock...............UNLOCK
CPU Clock Ratio ....................... 8x
CPU N/2 Ratio..........................?
Target CPU Core Speed............. 3.000 Mhz
CPU Clock............................... 375 Mhz
CPU Clock v Memory Speed....... 1:2
System Memory Speed............ 801 Mhz
PCI Express Clock................... 100 Mhz
PCI Clock..............................33.33 Mhz

Auto Detect PCI Clock Enabled
Spread Spectrum Disabled
Over Clock Recovery Enabled

Any help would be highly appreciated:)

[HDCHOPPER]

Frequency Unlimit.....................Disabled..... <<<<<enable this

[Jules007]

Ok I will, what does it do?

[HDCHOPPER]

allows you to go over stock cpu speed

[Jules007]

Ok so that is why it is not letting me go over 400 FSB?

[HDCHOPPER]

:up: have fun !!! :rofl: aint laffing at you just with you ;)

[Jules007]

yeah, it's the female jelly brain working today.:ROTF:

[LordIT]

Hi,

EIST Function.........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal...................Disabled
C1E Function...........................Disabled
Execute Disable Bit...................Disabled
Virtualization Technology...........Disabled
Frequency Unlimit.....................Disabled
Core Multi Proceessing..............Enabled

Memory Timing Config - Sub Menu

Dram Timing Selectable
Cas Latency Time (tCL)............. 4T
Ras# to Cas# Delay (tRCD)......... 4T
Ras# Precharge (tRP)................ 4T
Precharge delay (tRAS).............. 15T
Write to Precharge (tWR)........... AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle (tRFC)........... AUTO
Write to Read Delay (tWTR)........ AUTO
Row to Row Delay (tRRD) ..........AUTO
Read to Precharge (tRTP)........... AUTO
Fast Chip Select....................... AUTO
Clock Per Command................... AUTO
Memory Channel0 DLL Adjust....... AUTO
Memory Channel1 DLL Adjust....... AUTO
Refresh Count Adjust................. AUTO
Performance Level.................... AUTO

All Voltage Control -Sub Menu

CPU Voltage Multiplier...............x 1.078 v
CPU Voltage Setting..................1.3125v
Target CPU Voltage...................1.44149v
Dram Voltage Setting.................2.115v
NB Voltage Setting....................1.312v
CPU VTT Voltage Setting ...........1.278v
SB Voltage Setting....................1.500v

Overclock Phase Select Manual O.C.

CPU Clock Ratio Unlock...............UNLOCK
CPU Clock Ratio ....................... 8x
CPU N/2 Ratio..........................?
Target CPU Core Speed............. 3.000 Mhz
CPU Clock............................... 375 Mhz
CPU Clock v Memory Speed....... 1:2
System Memory Speed............ 801 Mhz
PCI Express Clock................... 100 Mhz
PCI Clock..............................33.33 Mhz

Auto Detect PCI Clock Enabled
Spread Spectrum Disabled
Over Clock Recovery Enabled

Any help would be highly appreciated:)

Is there a tool available monitoring the BIOS- settings in windows or was it typed with the keyboard?

[Jules007]

I have no tool for monitoring the Bios, all that list was typed in.:)

[LordIT]

What a pity. I wish to use such a tool.
Have you solved your OC problem meanwhile?

[[XC] Hicks121]

Well first thing I would do is put you ram to 1:1(CPU Clock v Memory Speed) & change the timings to 55515. that way it kinda takes your ram out of the equation & you will be able to work with the cpu.

Its a big learning curve & it takes time, learn you bios & read all the threads on your mobo.

Good luck!!

[Jules007]

My timings are at 1:1 it is just the way the Bios displays it for the MARS.
If i try to set the memory to 5 5 5 15 the PC crashes!

I'm still looking for help though, any kind of help.

By the way I did not write all that stuff out by hand I did use a template and just fill it in.:)

[negev]

try setting all the dram timings manually to very loose values, it might be worth playing with these to see where you get problems. Try a higher performance level (higher number, to make it slower).

Your northbridge is only at 1.3v you could try adding to that, most people can run up to 1.5v without too much trouble.

What's the problem you're having anyway? Can't get above 375fsb? Try going up in 10Mhz increments and running 30mins of Prime95 to see where you get instability, then turn it down a little and work on getting it 12hr stable from there. Once you've played with the settings to get 12hr stability you'll hopefully have a learnt a bit more, then you can try to push higher. Keep an eye on temps, especially northbridge and cpu - my nb gets ridiculously hot so i can't get over 3.2ghz at the moment, but water is on its way :)

[TheGanG]

My timings are at 1:1 it is just the way the Bios displays it for the MARS.
If i try to set the memory to 5 5 5 15 the PC crashes!

I'm still looking for help though, any kind of help.

By the way I did not write all that stuff out by hand I did use a template and just fill it in.:)

CPU Clock Ratio ....................... 8x > 9x should be more stable :)
Push VNB higher, VCPU: 1x/1.45-1.50V, VDDR: 2.2V 5-5-5-15/800+ (try to keep around 800 MHz)
Start with 333*9: 2997MHz, 340*9: 3060, 350*9: 3150MHz, 360*9: 3240, up to 400*9 > TEMPS!
SB, VTT, PLL should be auto at first; if u need more V, search XS Intel CPU ocing posts...

[HDCHOPPER]

list your rig in your sig would help too
some ram need different voltages and run at 5-5-5-5-18

[Jules007]

OK guys, i can not do any of this right now as I'm working. I will try your suggestions even though some of them are confusing. I have no problems with my RAM running at the speed it is but i will try again to loosen the timing.:)

[negev]

Jules, increasing the FSB also increases the ram speed, so if your ram can't handle going higher than you'll get instability, thats why we said loosen the timings, that way you rule out the memory being the cause of the problem. If the memory is at loose timings and less than (or close to) stock MHz then the ram isn't the problem. 1.3v NB is quite low, i'd recommend increasing that and see how to get on.

[Jules007]

OK gentlemen, I have now changed my voltages to ...
CPU Voltage Multiplier...............x 1.078 v
CPU Voltage Setting..................1.3750v
Target CPU Voltage...................1.4823v
Dram Voltage Setting.................2.115v
NB Voltage Setting....................1.406v
CPU VTT Voltage Setting ...........1.275v
SB Voltage Setting....................1.500v

At the moment it is stable on 400*8= 3200Mhz. if I drop my CUP voltage any lower I get errors in prime! Temp on full load 57/56c

I loosened my memory to 5 5 5 15 also.

I have just tried out a different temp monitor (speedfan) and it shows my temps way above RealTemps
Which one of these do I trust? even my Aegis Panel gives me different temps.
I will prime it for longer later as long as my core voltage is OK at that high level!

[negev]

See

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLACR

or

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9UM

Max according to intel is 1.5v, although scout around the forums you might find it can take more, **watch temps!**

[Jules007]

Thank you negev for that information, very helpful. :) Temps seem fine right now..

[HDCHOPPER]

you should be able to get 3.4 out of QUAD even a crappy one rais your nb volts to at least 1.5 kinda rule of thumb keep it at least around your cpu voltage
eye would bet you wilil need 1.525+ nb and negev right QUADS run HOT esp the EO version GO better but it's still a QUAD your gonna need better cooling on that thing
and 65nm processors can take high volts (1.55+) better than 45nm
cool that puppy down or you arnt going to go anywhere

your on track have fun !

[Jules007]

I'm happy at 3200Mhz thanks :) and I just got that cooler recommended by someone with a Mars. If I do not plan to push it up any higher I think that 55/56c is fine on full load. I was just concerned about the voltages being that high but it looks as though that is OK too. :)
Thanks for the info though.:up: