q9650 temps correct

[cryptospartan]

I am on water just want to know if 44C is correct for a q9650 i am just using the bois to check before installing vista

XSPC XSPC X2O Delta CPU V3
XSPC Laing DDC Top
XSPC Acrylic Reservoir for Laing DDC
Thermochill PA 120.3
HAF 932 Top mount Rad Mod. PUSH and PULL

[sirheck]

It also depends on your ambient temprature as well.

44c seems a little warm for just BIOS.

[Zaskar]

Whats the voltage?

I have a PA120.3 and a PA160 for my CPU with a DDC and a EK block and my idle is 30something and my voltage was bumped to around 1.43 (real voltage is around 1.38-1.39 idle)

I also have a AC in my room though, if its hot there and hot in the room that will raise the temp, but still seems a bit high if its stock voltage which is what, 1.28 or something?

[cryptospartan]

thanks guys i will

[Jor3lBR]

Anyone can take a guesstimate in wha is the LOAD for the Q9650 w/ 1.5v @ 4400Mhz?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Anyone can take a guesstimate in wha is the LOAD for the Q9650 w/ 1.5v @ 4400Mhz?

umm are you alking about wattage?

cuz a)1.5v 24/7 will kill your chip.

b) 4.4 ghz is not practical 24/7 because of the high vtt required to achieve this IF your chip can even hit that FSB in the first place

[NaeKuh]

Anyone can take a guesstimate in wha is the LOAD for the Q9650 w/ 1.5v @ 4400Mhz?

dead in 5 months. Thats even assuming you can do near fsb500: :rofl:

and what should i know? i have been playing with all the platforms a lot longer then most people on this forum even:

Q9650:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/470fsb.jpg
Heres the Stability Shot:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/2hour.jpg

QX9650:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Wprime.jpg

X3370:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Natsuki.jpg
<dayam speedstep forgot to disable it>

The highest fsb i pulled on these girls was 470fsb on a EVGA 780i. :shocked:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMPOSSIBLE.jpg

[Zaskar]

But is it a Q9650?

andyc

Yup, got it running at 4.23 stable. Could go a bit higher and still stable but id have to bump the FSB from 1.3 to 1.35 aswell and don't know if I want to do that, Id have to raise the CPU voltage a bit higher aswell and even with the watercooling setup I have on it, IBT would take it a bit above 65c if I raise the vcore up a bit more depending on room temp.

[Zaskar]

yeah, that's great man.

they're incredible chips. Got mine running smooth as silk at 4.25 1.35v under load. FSB 1.35. I'm loving it. Clocks better than my QX and takes a lickin. Averages around 60c across all for cores on Prime/in place 8K fft's. Thing won't crash for anything.

Thanks for posting,

andyc

Thats awesome man. How safe do you feel 1.35 FSB voltage is for 24/7 use? I can get a bit higher with that bump but I wasnt sure if it was worth it as it would be a .5v increase for probably max a .1 increase (with a small bump to vcore aswell)

Id also have to redo all my memory timings, im at the absolute max speed for the timings, the very next possible increase in speed makes it unstable, which was also another drawback, if the speed increase from the cpu was minor enough it may get counteracted by the looser mem timings.

[NaeKuh]

yeah, that's great man.

they're incredible chips. Got mine running smooth as silk at 4.25 1.35v under load. FSB 1.35. I'm loving it. Clocks better than my QX and takes a lickin. Averages around 60c across all for cores on Prime/in place 8K fft's. Thing won't crash for anything.

Thanks for posting,

andyc

mine does that too, however its not linpack stable 1024 10 passes @ that setting.

You really need to crank voltage to pass linkpack. :T

This is why all my tests have changed over to linpack. Sometimes i think that program was made just to limit me. :\

Vista 64 Ultimate + Linpack = PITA and very Annoying.

[Zaskar]

NaeKuh what FSB voltage do you need to run at your stable 24/7 speed on that chip?

[NaeKuh]

NaeKuh what FSB voltage do you need to run at your stable 24/7 speed on that chip?

which one? the regular Q9650?

for linpack to pass she needs 1.3 @ 450fsb.
The X3370 needs 1.3 to pass linkpack @ 443 however i stopped tweeking it. I could probably do 450.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I use 1.35 vtt ~63.7% gtl for speed in my sig, 24/7

[Zaskar]

mcoffey or NaeKuh, have you noticed this with your Q9650's, mine seems to have a minimum temp "wall" on all 4 core temps at around 36c (depends on what you set the tjmax to)

Diddnt notice this till now since thats about where those cores will sit at this Overclock, but today I just noticed it when I really cranked up the AC and my GPU temp dropped like 4c lower, but my core temps stayed at 36 and diddnt fluctuate at all (but the normal cpu temp kept goin down as it should)

Dropped the voltage by .10 and the cpu speed significantly and it still diled at 36, but it must of been significantly lower as it not much aside from prime95 could make it move a few degrees higher (except IBT, that showed immediate movement) Even realtemps stuck core test showed 0 movement on all cores at the lower voltage (at my normal higher voltage/clock it shows movement on all cores, though it still may not be showing the first 1-2c of movement depending on ambient temp)

[NaeKuh]

i dont notice any wall, however my chip is an ES. :T

might want to ask andy i believe his is retail.

[NaeKuh]

It also depends on your ambient temprature as well.

44c seems a little warm for just BIOS.

bios will be higher then idle in windows and vista incase you didnt know. :yepp:

[Kensek]

Running this bench at 500x8.5. HD4870 at 830/1060. Ram at DDR3-1668 7-6-6-21 1N Timings.

Still on Air.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=8243196

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/318/3dnmark06q965019138xs4.jpg

[bigslappy]

I guess I got lucky then, which is strange because I never get cherry chips

My favorite chip right now out of all my 45 quad's

andyc

andyc
Andy what's the batch# of that chip ...

[Kensek]

The Batch number on my Q9650 is L822B363 with Pack Date of 8/13/2008.

[Zaskar]

I've noticed a DTS sticking at 38c on my QX9650, but these seem pretty smooth on the Q9650. I know it's a pain in the ***, but I wouldn't pay to much attention to it. At stock V., do they drop below 36c?

Naa thats how I figured out this was the issue. I didn't actually lower it to stock, but dropped it to 1.35 from 1.435 (Bios voltage) along with the CPU speed from 4.23 to 3.6.

The temps only went down to 36, but it was then VERY apparent that they were well below that temp, since even prime95 would only seem to make 1-2 cores at a time go up 1-2c, but IBT made them jump to around 45. Realtemp showed no movement on Any of the cores at that voltage aswell since it didn't apply enough load to get it to go from whatever temp it really was to above 36c.

But at 1.435 bios voltage needed for my current speed ive never noticed it before cause its idle temp is almost exactly where the sensors bottom out at, infact when it was a little warmer the core temps would fluctuate from 36-27 randomly showing that the temp was close to 1c above it.

But now that it is cooler its easier to cool the room and you can see idle never fluctuating from 36c unless you do something. So its real temp is probably 35-36c.

[bigslappy]

The Batch number on my Q9650 is L822B363 with Pack Date of 8/13/2008. = Kensek = 4.25 GHz

L820A917 PD:07/31/2008 = Andy = 4.25 GHz


seems that that chip is being made well in different batches HMMM... thinking i might have to pull the trigger as my 9450 is a Dog ....
.....as in Woof Woof ! Bow WoW ! in a bad way
hmmmmm.... checkin' balance on CC as i type ....

[Kensek]

Did a little better today at 465x9 (4.18 GHz) with Ram at DDR3-1861 with 7-7-7-21 1N Timings. Also ran the HD4870 at 835/1065. GPU-Z doesn't sjow correct figures since I updated to Catalyst 8.9 from 8.8.

Also Tried Cross Fire with my Other HD4870 but CPU had trouble running what it can with one card. System couldn't hold 450x9. Could run 444x9 and got 22K,

Think my Corsair 750TX is too small for these massive Overclocks ????

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=8260670

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2618/3dmark06q965019239qg0.jpg

[bigslappy]

The Trigger gets pulled !

ordered from NewEgg YaHoo!

thanx for the posts , i'm in Da Q9650 club now !

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I blew out a 750tx with a q6600 @ 1.6v and 2 volt modded 4870's. It might be your issue that it cant quite get the power through enough.

[Kensek]

Just ordered a Corsair 1000W PSU.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

What happens when a PSU blows out? Does a fuse blow or something? Or does it just quit working?

andyc

sometimes it just stops running, even when you simply jump green to black a blown PSU wont run.

I blew out a HX620 by putting too much load on it and it lit on fire, luckily I had a fire extinguisher handy. Unfortunately my computer room smelled terrible for the next few weeks.

I have had 2 750TX blow in the passive way i mentioned above. I think its some sort of compatability issue with my DFI board and the 750TX because I have used the 750TX in a lot of other systems and all of those are still going strong and stable.

[NaeKuh]

What happens when a PSU blows out? Does a fuse blow or something? Or does it just quit working?

andyc

oh good scenario:
You psu just dies, nothing happens and it wont start up again.

Moderate scenario:
Your psu starts to smoke and your system shorts out lucky for its protection. your hardware Does not die.

Worse case Scenario:
The psu shorts out and smokes. Then your motherboard pops because of over surge, then your ram fry, and your videocard pops. And you got yourself a 4 figure coffee table.


Ive had all 3 happen to me, the last scenario is easily avoidable with a UPS and a decient quality PSU. However only idiots fall in the last scenario, or building noobs who ignore people's advice. Yes i was a building noob, and it applied to me a long time ago. And i could of avoided it if i only listened to a friend on another forum.

[bigslappy]

I get my Q9650 on Wed !!!!



I read on another thread where a guy's 8800 vid card burnt up a cap & then burnt the MoBo , the CPU & PSU all at the same time ,he got a RMA on the card but not the rest of the stuff
I forgot which tread it was or i'd link it

[inCore]

Gone are the times when my VX 550 was deemed adequate.

I'm considering getting a Q9650, I have the worst E8400 in the world which is putting me off from buying new CPUs. What's a worst case overclock for a Q9650?

Sorry if the question has been asked before, I swear I've read the thread but I can't remember seeing it and with my current internet (at a hotel), each page takes a while to load.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

E0's we have seen all have been reaching 4 ghz, on stock volts i know mine reached 3.6 rock solid stable, so your looking at at least 3.8-3.9 with just small voltage bumps. if your willing to push that vtt up, nalpam has demonstrated, the chip hasn't even reached its limits :up:

[inCore]

Interesting. My should-be-famous E8400 needs 1.41 Volts for 3.8 Ghz (used to be 3.85, degredation ftw), 3.6 on stock volts is quite alluring.

Go Nehalem go, bring these prices down you market conquering beast.

To make a contribution to this thread: My E8400 also has a temperature wall, won't go lower than 31 / 30 on core 1 and 2 correspondingly.

OT: Just watching CNN on tv and a guy from "overstock.com" is on. Three guesses if I read "overstock" or "overclock" as I was writing this post. :p:

[Kensek]

The new 1000W Corsair (HX1000) PSU came today so I ripped out the 2 month old Corsair 750TX hoping it was the culprit in holding back my Overclocks when trying to CrossFire these HD4870s.

And Low and Behold the 750 was holding me back.

Couldn't hit 23K after this run - kept tweaking but No GO.

Wonder what type of a PSU you need to run Overclocked CrossFired HD4870X2s, a small nuclear power plant??

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=8281576

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1858/3dmark06q965022983ub9.jpg

[bigslappy]

The new 1000W Corsair (HX1000) PSU came today so I ripped out the 2 month old Corsair 750TX hoping it was the culprit in holding back my Overclocks when trying to CrossFire these HD4870s.

And Low and Behold the 750 was holding me back.

Couldn't hit 23K after this run - kept tweaking but No GO.

Wonder what type of a PSU you need to run Overclocked CrossFired HD4870X2s, a small nuclear power plant??


I got stabilty problems with my 4870X2 with a PC PWR & Co0lling 750 watt & i've been thinking that was the issue ,the PSU being under powered
as i'm running 3 drives in raid 0 also , plus 2 28" ViewSonics at the highest res a buch of fans & a DDC & i had no problems with this issue until i got the 4870X2

[bigslappy]

got my Q9650 under load on the test bed with stoock settings @ 3GHz prime 95 blend , DD TDX CPU block ,ddc pump petra's top GTX 360 rad = 40,37,38,38 ambiant @ 26.3 air temp learn more @ this link on the Q9650 O/C in' thread
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3315300#post3315300

had it up to 4 GHZ last nite with stock /auto BIOS settings just by upping the setting of the FSB these New QUAD CPU's ROCK !

[bigslappy]

Incredible aren't they. Glad you got a good one. By the looks of things, you should be able to hit 4.25 24/7 stable without a problem.

andyc
Yeah I think I gonna throw it on my other Rampage Formula that's completly watered up & see what it will do ,, I feel with the X48 chipsets if u can cool them enuff they will stay stable under high Clocks
& i got a Modded DD intel 975 block on the X48 on that board & those cool WAY better than the EK block does
i'll be working that up tomorrow==========> THanK GoD It's Friday !

[bigslappy]

just before bed I had it up to 4.2 Ghz but it wouldn't load OS but am @ 4 GHz stable as i type >>> this puppy flies !

[NaeKuh]

nice overclock you got there :up:

however needs to be linpack passable :up:

[bigslappy]

just did a 3DMark06

run @ 4 GHz = 22666

http://service.futuremark.com/results/showFavoriteResults.action666

[Kensek]

You can see my thread on the Asus Forum where I am a Moderator.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...e=en-us&page=3



Since the last run was so close to 20K (19,964) I went for it.

Bumped up the FSB to 478x9 (4.3 GHz) and upped the GPU to 870/1075.

And hit 20,294. Submitted my ORB this time.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=8338518

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3372/3dmark06q965020294t2ds7.jpg

[Kensek]

I used my Trusty 478x9 Bootup and then Ran XFired HD4870s OC'd to 865/1075.

Only got a 3DMark06 Score of 23,421. I noticed XFire helps more in the SM 2.0 tests than it did in the SM 3.0 test. You get 20% more in SM 2.0 and 12% more in SM 3.0 test.

If any geniuses out there now how to up the SM 3.0 XFire performance please chime in.

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4800/3dmark06q965023241t2jm3.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/499/3dmark06comparexb6.jpg

You can see that on the last test (Deep Freeze) CrossFire just barely outperformed just one HD4870.

But on Canyon Tests did 32% better.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/499/3dmark06comparexb6.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1999/water4sl7.jpg

[Lloyd]

WCG Bionic is still the ultimate stability test, and based more on real world performance IMO.

andyc

Yeah i'm with ya there, If my system gets through the night crunching WCG, then i'm happy :up: