Sense and Sensibility [A Build Log]

[twwen2]

Sense and Sensibility

A Lian-Li V350 build log

Disclaimer:
This build log has absolutely nothing to do with Jane Austen. I hereby apologize to the fans of said author (you know who you are!), but I hope that you will find comfort and solace in whatever I can offer in the pages to come. I will not however, disclose to you yet the reasoning behind the naming convention used. I like some suspense…



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Preface:
I’ll be breaking this build log into several sections initially:

Part 1: An introduction to me (For those who are interested)
Part 2: Aims and Objectives
Part 3: System specifications and parts

I’ll handle the rest as it comes; hopefully we can keep it all neat and tidy ;)

I profusely apologize in advance for the sheer volume of text to come; however I feel that it all should be included; as in my humble opinion it will add value immeasurable to the experience forthcoming (both for you and for me!) :)
That being said; if you couldn’t give a rats about me and my background, then skip Part 1 and go straight to Part 2. For the rest of you though; feel free to read on!

In the wonderful words of our very own crazy Peladon: "Thus and so"....



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[twwen2]

PART 1: An Introduction to me!

Let me (if you will) take the opportunity to fill you in with some background info about myslef ;)

I think most people will agree that being a part of XtremeSystems is a rewarding and often awe-inspiring hobby (or sickness as some describe it!). There are so many talented and just plain nuts people here it’s hard not to be impressed sometimes. My time here has raised my expectations about hardware performance, project creativity, DIY modding and rig building.

My computer aspirations have risen over the years; in the beginning all I wanted was a “high-end” IBM. Then I got into the Dell XPS range. When I discovered Alienware, I thought I had found the holy grail of high-end computing or so to speak :ROTF:.

To be honest I actually can’t remember how I found XtremeSystems. But that’s beside the point, ‘cos I did and here we are! Here in the Asylum I was exposed to the wonderful world of overclocking. I have been like the proverbial sponge, absorbing as much information and advice as I can from all the wonderful residents here ;).

After high school I had earned enough of the good stuff to put together an air-cooled bang-for-buck rig, which has served me well (I’m cringing as I type that) for the past ~2yrs. The specifications of said rig are in my signature below. The experience taught me lots about BIOS settings, system stability (or lack of it) and unfortunately the beauty of the RMA process :(. Definitely a learning experience that I’m sure we all went through once upon a time…

Now we get to the good part! 

My first exposure to watercooling was reading a review of the Corsair Nautilus. That sparked my interest in this crazy hobby. As I delved further into the industry, I began to read reviews of custom WC kits, namely those made by Asetek and Swiftech. Since I joined, my time here at XtremeSystems has opened my eyes to the world of real DIY watercooling, and I can’t get enough of it! My friends don’t understand me; they think I’m crazy: :shrug: “Water and electronics don’t go together man…” but I’m pleased to say it hasn’t curbed my enthusiasm in the slightest. The looks of disbelief I get when I tell them that I load at 30 deg C makes it all worthwhile. :up:

The watercooling forum has always been my favourite room in the asylum :p:. I have amassed a folder of saved web pages containing most of the WC builds done here over the past 2-3 years; it’s well over the 1GB mark for size. I like to go back and re-read through all the build logs, commandeering other people’s ideas and planning my next build. I’ve also created a huge gallery with all my favorite WC pics that I browse through when bored. Can I say (if you haven’t already decided) that I’m addicted?

I’ll quickly mention my favourite builds:

• Antec P180B Watercooling by lasse.j5 (one of the first builds that caught my eye here at XS)
• Project TJ07 by ladderman (probably the build I’ve re-read the most times)
• AndyM’s TJ07
• Project X-343B-WC by Mjassbong (purty colours!!! :D)
• Rainmaker by VirtualRain (some simply astounding modding)

And more recently:

• Home Wrecker, Day&Night by evil-98
• Lyl’s V1000 H20
• YAMMS MM H20 by dfo
• Horizontal 343B by Matias23
• Friedchicken’s Murderbox (indeed, all of Charles_h’s work!)

Great stuff guys! :cool:

The pros here have inspired me. I prefer not to name names cos I usually forget someone, but I’m going to anyway. Special mention goes to Cathar, Martin, Nikhsub1, Naekuh, Petra, mcoffey, I could go on there’s plenty more. You guys are great and we all appreciate your contribution to these forums. Can I just get all emotional and say that Cathar is my WC hero and I miss him <sniff>  That Storm G7 was gonna be a monster…

<OK pull yourself together already…>


Well, for the two or three people who haven’t fallen asleep yet; there you have the story of my life, well the computer-related bits anyway! <get it?? Wow I’m such a geek :shakes:>
Don’t worry I do have a life…
I hope that’s given you an insight as to where I’m coming from. :)


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The next section will cover my aims and objectives for this project.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention – I’ll also explain the reasoning behind the naming of this build. There’s method in the madness. Somewhere…



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[twwen2]

PART 2: Aims and Objectives

I’d just like to begin by saying that this build is full of compromises, so please do not think me a hypocrite. Let me explain…

Sense and Sensibility. I find that by spending so much time on XtremeSystems I get can a bit carried away by the hardware I see others working with. For instance, person X (aka Naekuh, but he’s just the first of many that spring to mind) builds a rig with a $1000+ quadcore, Tri-SLi (or quad X-Fire), six raptors in RAID 0 and a 1200W PSU (don’t even mention skulltrail), and I start thinking “I have to have that. Anything less will not be sufficient” when all I really use my PC for is Uni work, movies, photos and the occasional game. Having said that I do run a 20” Widescreen at 1680x1050 and play some taxing games like WiC and CoH, so I do need some reasonable processing power. But the key word there is reasonable. Sense and Sensibility.

So; in this build will attempt to buy hardware that meets my needs, with some reasonable headroom and future-proofing of course! :p: :rofl:

Here are my aims for the project:

• Must be quiet, near silent if possible. I currently run a CM 650W Extreme PSU with the fan stuck at 100% rpm. Before I went WC, I used to have a Zalman 9500 on the CPU, :down: sounded like a jet sometimes. The HD4870 sounds like a hair-dryer!
• Must be stable. I’ve had some nightmares with my current rig, most of which can be traced back to the nVidia 650i chipset :mad:. Stupid thing won’t run two dimms of RAM, so I’m stuck with 1GB. It doesn’t play nice with ATi cards either…
• Must be cool. It can get warm down here in OZ, especially in the summer where it can get to the mid 30’s indoors (no AC for me :rolleyes:). The WC will help here.
• Will have watercooling: But of course ;). This is where I depart completely from the build theme, but I couldn’t care less, after all this is XS isn’t it!


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In my next post I will outline the details of the rig with regards to

• Parts/specs and purchases
• WC loop configuration

And i promise i'll put some pictures up, cos i know your all about to lynch me for making you read all this text! :rolleyes:

Edit: Here's a sneak peak!

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000981.jpg


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[turtletrax]

And i promise i'll put some pictures up, cos i know your all about to lynch me for making you read all this text! :rolleyes:
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QFT :rofl:

Seriously tho, I cant wait to see it :)

[twwen2]

PART 3: System Specs and Parts
Ok let’s get down and dirty with the nitty gritty details and specs!

Core Specs:

Case: Lian Li V350 mATX cube
PSU: Corsair HX620
Processor: Intel E8600
Motherboard: DFI JR-P45 T2Rs
RAM: 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066MHz
Graphics: ATi HD4870 512MB
HDD: 640GB WD6400AAKS
Optical: Pioneer SATA DVDRW
OS: Vista Home Premium 64bit

• Case: Recently I got all psyched up about Charles_h’s TJ07 MurderMod builds (check ‘em out here – it’s gotta be the most impressive build I’ve ever seen: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=187306), but eventually realized I couldn’t afford to spend $600+ on a case. I love the Lian Li 343B cube, but can’t afford that either (shipping to OZ is $180 min). I’m not overly enchanted by the MM range, bit too industrial for my tastes but functional none-the-less (again shipping brings these to around $600). So I was left with a bit of a dilemma, a rather big one actually. For me, the case is the part that really needs to be right, after all it’s the part that I have to look at 24/7. So I needed a solution.
That solution came in the form of some timely inspiration from evilvision and his SG-02 SFF build. No longer did I have to splash out on Nehalem (which I don’t need) just to fill a big case (which wouldn’t fit anywhere in my room); I could have great-quality components in a compact package that would meet my needs for a good year or three to come. I started looking at SFF cases, and decided on the V350, the most refined of the offerings. First up some pics of the exterior:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000002.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000010.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000014.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000009.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000015.jpg

And now a few with the side panels starting to come off :cool:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000024.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000023.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000026-1.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000027-1.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000029.jpg

I will have my work cut out for me trying to fit everything in there, but with the PA120.3 (and possibly the res & pump too) mounted outside the case I’m almost certain I can pull it off. Wish me luck! :D


• CPU: Intel’s recent E8600, complete in its E0 stepping glory! These things have been doing some insane clocks; I can’t wait to see how this one goes!

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000986.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000988.jpg

Confession!: I nearly went AMD on this build. It was one of those things where head triumphed over heart in the end (thankfully). My heart said “AMD CPUs are far more elegant, the design makes sense and the lack of NB means one less heat-producing component (and thus one less water block)”. However sense and sensibility prevailed in the end, my head chiming in with a decisive “Deep down you know that Intel is the better option. You will be able to clock that Penryn sky-high, there’s no comparison once 4GHz+ is reached. Stop being silly and invest in the better solution”. Head = 1, heart = nil. :D

• Mobo: The baby DFI P45 has been pounding it’s bigger brothers for FSB clocks, it’s cracked 685MHz FSB here recently and seems to do 500MHz FSB on quads regularly. For an mATX board it’s packed to the gills with goodies, most noticeable being the full-scale P45 chipset. A 4-phase hybrid PWM, solid caps all round and 2 PCI-E slots all make for one little mobo with a big punch! I’ll be WC’ing the CPU, NB and GPU; more pics on that later. First some nekkid shots :yepp:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000993.jpg

The pure white box promises many good things!

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000995.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM001009.jpg

Just look at that CPU socket area. Exquisite! :eek:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM001011.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM001015.jpg


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That's all for today. Next up is the WC gear, but i need my daylight for photography so the next section will go up tomorow hopefully. Stay tuned for more pics and even more text! :ROTF::up:

Get ready for some serious EK lovin!

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000987-1.jpg


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[CedricFP]

Can't wait to see the finished project.

[Dangals]

Nice:up:

A very well put together log so far which has engaged my interest - I definitely want to see how this all plays out.

Keep up the good work:yepp:

[emuexport]

Excellent Work. :D

Love your worklog structure so far! Puts mine to shame!

Great pics. I will have to invest in learning how to take better pics with my camera as yours are smokin'

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emu

[MomijiTMO]

All you need are some links and you'll have a novel! :rofl:


It's good to see what you went with. I'm interested to know how you set up your loop and what modding shall be done. Now get to it :p:

[pcaddict]

Good project for now, love that dfi mobo. :D

[Arni]

Nice font ;D
I need more!

[evil-98]

nice! brother.. ;)

nice choose in all hardware and especially like the case :up:

let see some progress! :up:

edit:

did you get a backplate for the supreme? you should the board is very thin it bends extremely easily

[elite.ire]

i like it, cant wait for more :D

[twwen2]

Nice:up:

A very well put together log so far which has engaged my interest - I definitely want to see how this all plays out.

Keep up the good work:yepp:

Thanks Dangals, it's good to see a few Aussies here! :D


Excellent Work. :D

Love your worklog structure so far! Puts mine to shame!

Great pics. I will have to invest in learning how to take better pics with my camera as yours are smokin'

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emu

To tell you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth; I'm actually using a P.O.S. HP 4.1MP point & shoot. Without any decent light it can't take a good pic to save it's life.:rofl: That's why all my photography is done outdoors. And usually in good sunlight.

I'm relieved that you guys like the pics, i really can't afford a DSLR at this stage. :eek:


nice! brother.. ;)

nice choose in all hardware and especially like the case :up:

let see some progress! :up:

edit:

did you get a backplate for the supreme? you should the board is very thin it bends extremely easily

Yeah i've got the backplate on order. Actually i ordered it from Flabbergast over a month ago, and there's no sign of it so far. FB had a change of ownership, and it's taking some time for orders to be processed and new stock to be ordered...


Nice font ;D
I need more!


Good project for now, love that dfi mobo. :D

Looking forward to this build...:up:

i like it, cant wait for more :D

Thanks guys, your support makes this all worthwhile ;)

[IanY]

Jane Austen... A-U-S-T-E-N ... not Jane Austin lol

Just kidding my good man :)

Beautiful build... looking forward to all of it :)

[charles_h]

This worklog needs a mascot!

When will we find out the meaning behind the name?

Will the Hero's epic struggle against the tyranny of evil (not our evil-98) come in act 2 or 3?

I can't wait to find out how it all ends!!!!!!!1 :up: :)

[barfastic]

subscribed :D
seems like you got ahead with your v350 build... where as i went to buy my parts, and as a man, and as man who changes his mind easily i changed my whole idea and ordered some very different parts.... hehehe. cant wait till i see what you do and what the outcome is! :D

[Pellepel]

Nice I kept reading :up: I want to see more :yepp:

[twwen2]

Jane Austen... A-U-S-T-E-N ... not Jane Austin lol

Just kidding my good man :)

Beautiful build... looking forward to all of it :)

Arrgh! :shocked: I mis-spelt it! Oh noes, let me go and change it! :rolleyes:


This worklog needs a mascot!

When will we find out the meaning behind the name?

Will the Hero's epic struggle against the tyranny of evil (not our evil-98) come in act 2 or 3?

I can't wait to find out how it all ends!!!!!!!1 :up: :)

Mascot LOL! If you can find one i'll use it. :rofl:

I already explained the name, it's in post 2, right at the start. :up:


subscribed :D
seems like you got ahead with your v350 build... where as i went to buy my parts, and as a man, and as man who changes his mind easily i changed my whole idea and ordered some very different parts.... hehehe. cant wait till i see what you do and what the outcome is! :D

What you don't see is all the WC gear that is sitting around that won't be used, cos i've had an inspiration or decided to do something different! :shakes::D

[twwen2]

Ok, update time!


PART 4: The Watercooling gear

- EK Supreme
- EK FC-4870 Nickel
- DDC3.2 + Petra's Top
- Swiftech MCRES or EK Res 250/100
- PA120.3 w/Scythe S-FLEX F in pull
- Koolance 3/8in ID 1/2in OD Compressions
- 3/8in ID 1/2in OD: Primoflex Pro-LRT clear OR Feser One UV orange

• CPU Block: I’m using the supreme because I already own one. If I was buying a CPU clock now, I’d probably grab a Fusion V2 or GTZ because I’ll be running a 3-WB loop. But alas, the supreme will have to do. Don’t get me wrong, the block is amazing, i really like the look and it will be more than capable of cooling my parts. More on flow rates soon…
As some of the parts are still in use,
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000033.jpg
I'm uising some recycled pics from my current open-desk build. I hope you don't mind :D

Here's my Supreme in pieces. I've got an acetal top on the way, direct from Eddy himself!
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/EK_diss_775_box.jpg

And all put together:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/EK_775_box.jpg

Is it just me or does the base curve the wrong way? :confused:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/EK_finger_bow.jpg


• PA120.3: The King of Cool! It seems the obvious choice. <Shuuush!!! Who said 480GTX?!!! Show your face now if you dare!!!> . I like to run my S-Flex’s at 1000rpm, so I do think the PA is the right rad for the job . And besides, I already have one from my previous open-desk build. With the E8600, P45 NB and HD4870 all in the one loop I’ll be pushing at 350 watts under load, so hopefully the PA will still give some decent air-water deltas.

Just one quickie ;)
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/PA_BP.jpg

• Fittings: I actually have two sets of compression fittings, both 3/8in ID. The Koolance ones are 1/2in OD, the BP’s are 5/8in OD. I have 10 feet of Pro-LRT tubing in both sizes. At this stage I’m gonna go the small-OD option, I think it’ll be better suited to the small case, but we’ll wait and see :up:.


Now, here's a suspicious looking box! I wonder what could be inside...
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000034.jpg

Lots of plastic bags and tubing! :D
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000037.jpg
All the tubing is Primochill 3/8in ID. Closest is the Pro-LRT in 5/8in OD, middle is the yucky silicon 1/2in OD and furthest away is the replacement Pro-LRT in 1/2in OD. I'm sure you can make out the rest of the stuff well enough...


Now let me show you some special parts i have, and what i plan on doing with them:

As previously stated (if not bleedingly obvious), the PA will be mounted outside the case, most likely on the underside of my desk (I’ll have to rig up a bracket of sorts). I’m not sure yet whether the res & pump will fit inside, but at this stage that is my intention. To pass the tubes out the back of the case i bought this clever thing (from our favorite mfgr of course):
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000038.jpg
Also in the pic are some of the fittings i will be using in this build. Also made by koo....., you know who ;).

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000040.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000041.jpg

My original idea was to have two ball-valves on the PCI bracket, then two BP D-plugs, Thus forming a psuedo-quick-disconnect. Here's what it would have looked like:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000061.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000062.jpg

But it got a bit long, and would extend too far out the back of the case for it to be practical, so i found another use for it instead... I call it the Kool-Power 3/8in OD handgun, check it out: :rofl:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000063.jpg
POW! Look out all WC gremlins! :shocked::rofl:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000064.jpg

Lol. Anyway so i had to change plans slightly. I switched thinking from disconnects to a drain valve. Now it look like this:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000065.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000067.jpg

What do you guys reckon? Think it'll work? :shrug:

This post is already far too long, so i'm gonna finish up and start another with pics of the wb's.


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[MomijiTMO]

LMAO. A gun. Take that Bitsy.

[Nate P.]

This looks like it's gonna be amazing. That is all.

[emoners]

very interesting...the same specs i'm actually thinking of doing next. can't wait to see more :)

[charles_h]

I already explained the name, it's in post 2, right at the start. :up:
Ah man, I'm sorry!

I really need to learn to read. :yepp:

When you said the reason would be revealed I figured you meant later in the build process, not later in the day. :D

[twwen2]

Ah man, I'm sorry!

I really need to learn to read. :yepp:

When you said the reason would be revealed I figured you meant later in the build process, not later in the day. :D

Yeah well that was the plan, but i had most of the text ready to go, so there wasn't a delay of sorts. :p:

Your assumption would have been correct had i not been so impatient. :D

[twwen2]

PART 4: The Watercooling gear - Continued

Here's the rest of the WC parts as promised: ;)

First up is the EK-NB S-Max for the DFI P45.
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000044.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000045.jpg

No BP fittings for you then...
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000046.jpg

And the centerpiece of the whole design, nickel-plated for extra bling :rolleyes:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000050.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000051.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000052.jpg
Can you say Shiiiiiineeeey!? :D

And a quick one of the EK res. I'm not sure where it's gonna fit, but oh well...:rofl:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000058.jpg


Now here's where things get interesting...

Yesterday i decided to drain and dismantle my open-desk loop to enable me to clean and prep the parts for the new build. So here's what Saturday morning looked like!

Here's the full loop still intact:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000082.jpg

But not for long;)
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000086.jpg
Just look at those tubes! Can you say DISGUSTING!? :down: But just you wait, there's more to come...

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000088.jpg

The EK supreme didn't look to bad from the top, but here's what the base fins looked like after removing the accelerator plate:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000095.jpg
Absolutely filthy! I've no idea what those little things are, but you can bet your house on one thing:

I will never, ever again use UV dye.:rolleyes:

Here's all the parts after a good scrub in near-boiling water.
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000098.jpg

And just as a side note, I spent most of Saturday night flushing the blue crap out of the rad. I think i did it 15 times and the water still comes out blue :(.
I know it's not recommended anymore, but would a quick (like 5min) dose of vinegar in the rad help to remove the gunk? Or does anyone have any other suggestions?


Right. Before i finish up, here's one last pic of my old PC. Notice the Xtreme CPU cooler i'm using!

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000103.jpg
Idle temps went from 20 to 46 deg C, i quickly down-clocked to 2.4GHz (from 3.05GHz) and i'm now sitting at a balmy 37 deg idle. After 20mins of OCCT it loads at 57 deg C.

I can't wait to get back on water! Watercooling........FTW! :up:

[Dangals]

Man that nickel block looks sweet!!! :yepp:

Can't say the same for that tubing and gunk in the supreme - glad you were able to clean it all up.

In regards to the rad I am not sure about that - wasnt there a lot of talk on this lately and the general consensus was not to use vinegar ever?:shrug:

Whatever you do I am looking forward to seeing this all come together:up:

[skinnee]

That was from Distilled+PT_nuke+UV Dye(Feser UV Blue) ? :shrug:

[NaMcO]

People should stick to FESER cooling fluid. It's got UV in it and it's awesome, won't tint anything and prevents corrosion even with ALU+CU loops. As for the worklog, good job, keep it up!

[twwen2]

That was from Distilled+PT_nuke+UV Dye(Feser UV Blue) ? :shrug:

Distilled and Feser One dye. No PT Nuke


People should stick to FESER cooling fluid. It's got UV in it and it's awesome, won't tint anything and prevents corrosion even with ALU+CU loops. As for the worklog, good job, keep it up!

Lol that was a glowing portrayal. It even prevents corrosion you say!? [/sarcasm]
FYI that was Feser stuff. Admittedly it was the dye (as opposed to the pre-mix), but pretty much the same thing once mixed with plain distilled H20.

[IanY]

Twwen2,

Rig up your garden hose to therad. Somehow. Just do it.

Use pressurized water jets (stand away, and don't spray anyone :) ) The radiator will clean itself very quickly.

And then do your usual distilled water rinse.

I make full use of my garden hose. In fact, I use the same pressure washer that I use to wash my cars (but I don't recommend that you do that).

I'm telling you. Distilled water. Nothing else. no PT Nuke, no Pentosin, no Zerex. Nothing. With colour comes headaches.

[DarthBeavis]

Glad it is not a Jane Austin mod . . .I HATE that crap (I have an English minor . . .had to read way too much of that stuff).

[IanY]

Glad it is not a Jane Austin mod . . .I HATE that crap (I have an English minor . . .had to read way too much of that stuff).


Jane A-U-S-T-E-N.

English minor you say :confused:

Hell, I'm a "damn foreigner" (in local lingo) and at least I figured that.

[DarthBeavis]

Jane A-U-S-T-E-N.

English minor you say :confused:

Hell, I'm a "damn foreigner" (in local lingo) and at least I figured that.

LOL . . .I said I hated it. You try having crap like "The History of Tom Jones" and "Moby :banana::banana::banana::banana:" shoved down your throat and see how much you retain (keep in mind I was a business major with NO interest in literary crap . . .hell I have not read a leisure book in at least five or six years).

Man up ;) Like Steve Austin . . .

[twwen2]

Twwen2,

Rig up your garden hose to therad. Somehow. Just do it.

Use pressurized water jets (stand away, and don't spray anyone :) ) The radiator will clean itself very quickly.

And then do your usual distilled water rinse.

I make full use of my garden hose. In fact, I use the same pressure washer that I use to wash my cars (but I don't recommend that you do that).

I'm telling you. Distilled water. Nothing else. no PT Nuke, no Pentosin, no Zerex. Nothing. With colour comes headaches.

Right. So let me get this straight. Should i just hook the hose up to the inlet and run the water through the rad at household pressure? Or are you suggesting that i somehow have a pressure jet as well? How would that work?

[emuexport]

I'm pretty sure IanY means two things:

1. Use tap pressure to flush your rad (tap pressure is more than a D5 I'd think) or you could...
2. Use a pressure washer etc (if available but not recommended).

twwen2 I'm confused is the loop you setup what you had been running for a while or was that new liquid mix?

Only reason I ask is i have had distilled and Fesser Clear/UV in my loop for a couple of months and found no gunk in my blocks this weekend when I took it apart. Is it possible that this was just stuff from your rad?

Just wondering thats all.

Sweet looking build and photos.

[twwen2]

I'm pretty sure IanY means two things:

1. Use tap pressure to flush your rad (tap pressure is more than a D5 I'd think) or you could...
2. Use a pressure washer etc (if available but not recommended).

twwen2 I'm confused is the loop you setup what you had been running for a while or was that new liquid mix?

Only reason I ask is i have had distilled and Fesser Clear/UV in my loop for a couple of months and found no gunk in my blocks this weekend when I took it apart. Is it possible that this was just stuff from your rad?

Just wondering thats all.

Sweet looking build and photos.

That loop was the one i have been running on my desk for the last 2-3 months, with the parts in my sig.

Were you using the pre-mix or dye? I've got a feeling that the pre-mix is mixed better and is more resistant to separation. It could well have been some stuff from the rad, but it looks a bit too blue for that imo...

[mpower1001]

twwen, great choice of hardware :up: More pics please.

[twwen2]

twwen, great choice of hardware :up: More pics please.

Soon, soon. Here's a few questions to y'all regarding the pics:

1) Will photobucket throw a hissie fit and ruin my log? What's the deal with bandwidth limits and such? :shrug:

2) Would people prefer a smaller image size? Say 800x600? At the moment i feel like they are a little over-powering, they take over the page.

[Sparky]

1) I used photobucket for my worklog, plus other stuff, and never had any BW issues.
2) 800x600 is ok, 1024x768 is usually a good size IMO, fits well on my monitor without being overpowering, but no larger for ease of use and other people's computers. Don't go smaller than 800x600 though please :)

[emuexport]

Fesser Clear/UV dye not pre-mix

[Yeknom]

If you don't mind all the work, small thumbnails like 400*300 that expand to maybe 1024*768 is prolly the best

[dingdong555]

Soon, soon. Here's a few questions to y'all regarding the pics:

1) Will photobucket throw a hissie fit and ruin my log? What's the deal with bandwidth limits and such? :shrug:

2) Would people prefer a smaller image size? Say 800x600? At the moment i feel like they are a little over-powering, they take over the page.

Your picture size is perfect ;) keep it up!

Use www.tinypic.com <--- register and create an album :)

:up:

[twwen2]

1) I used photobucket for my worklog, plus other stuff, and never had any BW issues.
2) 800x600 is ok, 1024x768 is usually a good size IMO, fits well on my monitor without being overpowering, but no larger for ease of use and other people's computers. Don't go smaller than 800x600 though please :)


Your picture size is perfect ;) keep it up!

Use www.tinypic.com <--- register and create an album :)

:up:

Ok it looks like the popular vote goes to 1024x768, so i'll leave them as is.
I'll check that site out, thanks for the link. :)

Thanks all for the interest, i'm glad you all like it so far. :cool:

[NaMcO]

Distilled and Feser One dye. No PT Nuke



Lol that was a glowing portrayal. It even prevents corrosion you say!? [/sarcasm]
FYI that was Feser stuff. Admittedly it was the dye (as opposed to the pre-mix), but pretty much the same thing once mixed with plain distilled H20.

Hey, sure... i always used FESER (the ready-to-go one), i got a GTX and i haven't had any corrosion at all for over 6 months, i'm sorry if happened to someone else. Actually, i never had any corrosion anywhere... :shrug:

[dingdong555]

Can't wait for new pics :)

[evil-98]

lets go!! more PICS NOW :horse:

[pcaddict]

looks nice.:D

[LogAn'sRun]

I'm telling you. Distilled water. Nothing else. no PT Nuke. . . Nothing. With colour comes headaches.

Not even a drop or 2? :D

[IanY]

Not even a drop or 2? :D

OK. One drop loop is great. :up:

Anymore than that, its like drinking vodka.. one glass is great, two is obnoxious, three is barf time :rofl:

[Pellepel]

Yep I'm with you twwen; I will be reconfiguring my loops with no dyes. I'll be going towards with color tubes with distill water and PT nuke.

[Sparky]

Not even a drop or 2? :D

I don't have any in my loop anymore, I read on here somewhere that it seemed that feser dye + PT nuke = reaction and bad stuff, so I left it out. If 1 drop is safe though and is beneficial then I'll put one in.

[Detale]

Eeeew Blue gunk. I hope that doesn't happen to me I used Feser UV with Distilled AND PT Nuke(more than 1 drop :eek: Meh Rev 2 will have the pre mix so hopefully this is a fluke. Good luck on the build man.


Soon, soon. Here's a few questions to y'all regarding the pics:

1) Will photobucket throw a hissie fit and ruin my log? What's the deal with bandwidth limits and such? :shrug:

2) Would people prefer a smaller image size? Say 800x600? At the moment i feel like they are a little over-powering, they take over the page.


You can also use Imageshack they have an easy to use toolbar and you can create albums


If you don't mind all the work, small thumbnails like 400*300 that expand to maybe 1024*768 is prolly the best

IS does this for you and gives you the code to copy and paste

[bianco]

nice build twwen2.
sub'd.

i'm planning to use red feser (premix)... is there anything i can do to prevent having red version of gunk? (aside from not using it at all...hehe).

[twwen2]

nice build twwen2.
sub'd.

i'm planning to use red feser (premix)... is there anything i can do to prevent having red version of gunk? (aside from not using it at all...hehe).

I wouldn't know. It seems to be a bit of a lottery. Some have problems, others not. There's too many other factors at play to be sure of the cause.

[bianco]

I wouldn't know. It seems to be a bit of a lottery. Some have problems, others not. There's too many other factors at play to be sure of the cause.

makes sense. gotta have extra tubes just in case then... :D. thanks man.

[twwen2]

Part 5 - Interlude

***Just before we take a break to divert for a moment, i've place my final order at PPCs this morning, so that should arrive late next week.***

A few of you know about my other passion/hobby. For those who don't, i'm a biker. I've got an '88 Kawasaki ZXR250 which i've had for just under a year now. I particularly enjoy riding up in the ranges, we've got some nice roads up in the local hills.;)

However, just two weeks ago i had my first real accident. I mean i've dropped the bike whilst stationary before, but never a real off.

Anyhow here's what happened:
I was in the left lane at the lights, behind about 5 cars. At the front in the right lane was a big truck...
The lights went green, and we moved off. I was in no hurry, happily traveling amongst the rest of the traffic.
So we pulled out of the intersection, accelerating up to about 40km/h. The right lane was stuck behind the truck, who was struggling to reach 20kn/h :rolleyes:. I was still speeding up on my way to 50km/h (still behind the other cars), and was passing the cars in the right lane. Just as i was about to pass the truck, the car behind the truck decided she wasn't going to wait anymore, and swung out into my lane, into me! :shocked:

So i braked and swerved; those who have ridden before know that those two maneuvers are mutually exclusive (you do one or the other, never both simultaneously). I lowsided and rolled into the gutter where i watched my nike slide ~15m down the road. I was cringing as i watched the bike crumble, bits of plastic flying out from underneath.

To cut a long story short, i got up and with the help of some guys who saw the whole thing and stopped to help we pushed the bike up onto the footpath. I was ok, mainly shock but my knee was a mess. The lady stopped and came back, we exchanged details and she left.

Our conversation:
Her: "Are you OK?"
Me: "I'm ok, a bit shaken"
Her: "What happened?"
Me: "You nearly ran me over"
Her: "OMG! I had my indicator on though!"
Me: ":rolleyes: SO!!!? I was next to you! :mad:"
Her: "But your bike can accelerate twice as fast as my car..."
Me: "That's got nothing to do with it!? :shrug:"
Her (in a lower vioce): "I'm sorry, i didn't see you there"
Me: "Obviously :shakes:"

She doesn't think she's at fault cos she didn't actually hit me (thanks to my sweet ninja reflexes). But i've got the law on my side, and a signed witness statement to boot! :up:

Here's some pics of the damage:
The bike fell and slid on it's left side.

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Bike%20pics/IM000963.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Bike%20pics/IM000964.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Bike%20pics/IM000965.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Bike%20pics/IM000968.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Bike%20pics/IM000969.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Bike%20pics/IM000970.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Bike%20pics/IM000974.jpg

Wish me luck with the whole process of insurance claims and the like...:down:

[IanY]

Sorry for your fall, man!!!

Now, you're getting as bad as RRR with the off-topic updates... motorbikes... Aussie football next? lol :)

I don't ride motorbikes, but I have had my fair share of spills on road racing bikes, all the same.

Glad you are alright, mate !! Sue, sue, sue.. oh sorry.. forgot you're not American :)

[twwen2]

Well now that you mention it, the AFL grand final is in 2 weeks. Geelong are gonna thrash them Hawks! :D

I thought you Americans had no idea what AFL was!? :rofl:

[IanY]

Not me, mate. I have lived in three continents, born a Brit, raised in Asia, and very nearly became Aussie myself (sorry.. I chose America, much to my father's chagrin) lol :)

[twwen2]

Wow i knew you were a mixture, but not to that extent! :eek::p:

Well i'm off to pick up my new Corsair 4GB USB key, then straight to Uni.
IanY you can go to bed now, you have my permission! :ROTF:

[Dangals]

Her: "OMG! I had my indicator on though!"
Me: ":rolleyes: SO!!!? I was next to you! :mad:"
Her: "But your bike can accelerate twice as fast as my car..."

Sorry to hear about the fall - I know what it is like to come off a bike due to the ignorance of other motorists and I can tell you that my response to her above comments would have been no where as near as calm and collected. :shakes: The stupidity of some is just astounding!


Well now that you mention it, the AFL grand final is in 2 weeks. Geelong are gonna thrash them Hawks! :D :rofl:

:rofl: "tell him he's dreamin"

j/k I really don't care as long as it isnt a one sided game! I am still bummed about the Swans having such an up and down season....oh well back next year :up:

[bianco]

whoa. that's a nasty spill; glad you're ok. :up:
good luck with the claims!

[twwen2]

Sorry to hear about the fall - I know what it is like to come off a bike due to the ignorance of other motorists and I can tell you that my response to her above comments would have been no where as near as calm and collected. :shakes: The stupidity of some is just astounding!

:rofl: "tell him he's dreamin"

j/k I really don't care as long as it isnt a one sided game! I am still bummed about the Swans having such an up and down season....oh well back next year :up:

The swans actually have supporters!? :eek::ROTF:


whoa. that's a nasty spill; glad you're ok. :up:
good luck with the claims!

Cheers bro.

[LogAn'sRun]

man that sucks about the spill. Ferrings are eXXpensive! I slid my CBR the same way as yours and to replace my ferrings cost an arm and a leg. Good thing she's paying for them.

As I'm sure you know the old adage about bikes:

There are 2 types of motorcycle riders : those that have gone down, and those that will go down.

[NaeKuh]

ROFL @ Supreme.

At least you listended to me on the acrylic top.

[evil-98]

OH MAN! that sucks, glad your ok

i cringed when i saw the damage on the bike

alot of people dont have respect for bikers, sometimes
its like a battle between the two where i work (3 mile highway)
its either bumper to bumper traffic or 75+ mph

[twwen2]

ROFL @ Supreme.

At least you listended to me on the acrylic top.

Yeah i bought it so i could keep an eye on things, but alas, the funny business was going on underneath the plate where i couldn't see it...


Oh man...so sorry to hear this, glad your OK up and around. Hope the bike gets fixed without too much trouble.

Scary stuff and thank God you're an experienced rider.

shoooooooooo,

andyc

Thanks for the concern :)


OH MAN! that sucks, glad your ok

i cringed when i saw the damage on the bike

alot of people dont have respect for bikers, sometimes
its like a battle between the two where i work (3 mile highway)
its either bumper to bumper traffic or 75+ mph

Cheers,
I can honestly say, that while this incident was an accident; based on what i've seen some people really are out to kill us bikers. I'm talking about people lining me up at T intersections, waiting for me to get close enough and then pulling out right into me. I'm talking about those jerks in the BMW X5's and Suby WRX's that jump on my tail when i pass them and try to get as close to my rear wheel as they can. I've lost count.

The biggest problem is awareness. Car drivers just don't look for motorbikes, they don't register in their limited existence. :shakes:

In other news my last order at PPCs has been shipped. I'm not telling what's in it, you'll find out when it gets here. As soon as my backplate for the supreme gets in from flabbergast i'll be in business.

Oh and i got some tips from Tremeloes :up:

[skinnee]

DAMN!!!

Glad you're ok! Bike can be fixed, and thank goodness you have a witness. I don't know about AUS, but here in the states motorcyclists tend to get the raw side of the deal unless there are witnesses. I've been lucky to keep it shiny side up...only a couple speeding tickets. Still, glad you're ok.

[twwen2]

DAMN!!!

Glad you're ok! Bike can be fixed, and thank goodness you have a witness. I don't know about AUS, but here in the states motorcyclists tend to get the raw side of the deal unless there are witnesses. I've been lucky to keep it shiny side up...only a couple speeding tickets. Still, glad you're ok.

Here in OZ bikers are treated like common criminals by Mr Plod. We are targeted by police with all sorts of bizarre tactics, and are assumed guilty until proven innocent.

In my state (Victoria) it's even worse. We have a draconian system where the law is made and ammended to protect people from themselves. Political correctness gone too far i tell you. :mad:
Get caught breaking the limit by 2km/h? That's a $150 fine and 3 demerit points, thankyou very much. My speedometer is only factory calibrated to +/- 10% by law, yet the cops can book you for breaking the limit by 1%! :down:

Our speed cameras are hidden out of view, they generate millions in revenue each year for the state government, with no real impact on reducing the road toll (possibly made things worse as people now watch their speedos instead of the road). Just recently the police started dressing up in camo and hiding in the bushes with their radar guns up at the black spur (favourite road for bikers).

I'm becoming increasingly dissolusioned with my country and the direction our government (particularly local) is taking. :shrug:

[/RANT]

[IanY]

Go Geelong!! FTW :up:

{all the Americans are looking at me... like WTF is that dude :rofl: www.gfc.com.au }

[charles_h]

Glad you're ok but man, that sucks. This is exactly why I've given up bikes. We have the same problem here with irresponsible, idiot drivers. I hate giving in to it but the older I get, recovery becomes more of an issue. At my age, coming off a bike would most likely result in full body traction.

Anyway, I hope that your insurance gets sorted without drama. :)

[Pellepel]

Bummer sorry to hear that man. I've been contemplating getting a bike for a while now. Everytime I see one I just want one. I came real close of purchasing a 98 R6 Raven edition, but then again I always shy away from it. I think about the crazy drivers here, and so many close encounters just by driving a car, its not every welcoming.

[cobra_kai]

Wow, you hate to see stuff like that happen. Definitely glad you're ok and I hope everything works out with the insurance. No reason you should have to pay for another's idiocy. Basically my view is that drivers everywhere are idiots, and the bigger the vehicle is that they are in the more obnoxious they act. So everyone regards bikes as fodder... sad but from my experience it's true. I hope you don't let some jerks discourage you from a great hobby

[twwen2]

Go Geelong!! FTW :up:

{all the Americans are looking at me... like WTF is that dude :rofl: www.gfc.com.au }

Haha how did you find that!? :rofl: They are gonna wipe the floor like last year. And i don't even barrack for them.
For the other Aussies here; i'm an essendon supporter


Glad you're ok but man, that sucks. This is exactly why I've given up bikes. We have the same problem here with irresponsible, idiot drivers. I hate giving in to it but the older I get, recovery becomes more of an issue. At my age, coming off a bike would most likely result in full body traction.

Anyway, I hope that your insurance gets sorted without drama. :)

Thanks, i figure the same, enjoy it while i'm young and fit:p:


Bummer sorry to hear that man. I've been contemplating getting a bike for a while now. Everytime I see one I just want one. I came real close of purchasing a 98 R6 Raven edition, but then again I always shy away from it. I think about the crazy drivers here, and so many close encounters just by driving a car, its not every welcoming.

Wow, you hate to see stuff like that happen. Definitely glad you're ok and I hope everything works out with the insurance. No reason you should have to pay for another's idiocy. Basically my view is that drivers everywhere are idiots, and the bigger the vehicle is that they are in the more obnoxious they act. So everyone regards bikes as fodder... sad but from my experience it's true. I hope you don't let some jerks discourage you from a great hobby

Yeah, as nuts and scary as it can sometimes be, it never dampens my enthusiasm.:up:
There's nothing quite like a sunny sunday afternoon out in the hills, the little ninja screaming it's head off at 18,500rpm :D

[emuexport]

twenn2 nice bike. Sorry to hear about the accident I had heaps of accidents on my moped when I lived in holland (it was like a 80cc dirt bike but with a 50cc engine) 85km/hr aint shabby! (but rather crazy with dodgy drum brakes).

I've been procrastinating for 6 months now after selling my SS ute to downsize and get a motorbike but haven't gotten the lessons yet. I will make the call tomorrow and take my learners permit test next week. you have inspired me even after your accident just glad it wasnt any worse and hope you get it all covered by insurance.

emu

[twwen2]

twenn2 nice bike. Sorry to hear about the accident I had heaps of accidents on my moped when I lived in holland (it was like a 80cc dirt bike but with a 50cc engine) 85km/hr aint shabby! (but rather crazy with dodgy drum brakes).

I've been procrastinating for 6 months now after selling my SS ute to downsize and get a motorbike but haven't gotten the lessons yet. I will make the call tomorrow and take my learners permit test next week. you have inspired me even after your accident just glad it wasnt any worse and hope you get it all covered by insurance.

emu

Drum brakes....!!!! :eek: That can't be good, let alone safe :p:

Haha check that i've inspired someone! I'm humbled and honoured :yepp:

Motorbikes are starting to make economical sense, they use much less fuel than a car, are softer on the emissions and cut travel times significantly. Plus they're a hell of a lot of fun! :D

[bianco]

ain't that the truth!
but i'm too old to learn to ride a motorbike and it's too expensive to own a car here.
public transport... ftw. haha.

[twwen2]

Mini Update

Ok just a little something to keep everybody happy :)


Today i received a package from Eddy!
From Slovenia with love :D

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000106.jpg
I wonder what could be inside...

Aha!
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000109.jpg
My new acetal top for the EK Supreme. I did take more pics but the camera battery died and i lost them :mad:. Then the sun had set and i couldn't take anymore.:(

I sat it on the mobo like so, just a little mockup if you will:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000116_2.jpg

The Feser tubing arrived earlier this week:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000108_2.jpg

And some UV action! :D
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000109_2.jpg

Looky, teh mini DFi board glows too!
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000110_2.jpg

That's all for now. I've got some more off-topic photos to share but they can wait. I'm actually starting to get into this whole photography thing. It's good fun! :cool:


*****

[bianco]

that awesome mobo looks more awesome under uv.
:up:

[emoners]

now i really wanna get some UV lights.

looking good mate! :up:

[nzbleach]

awesome colour scheme happening. Got a DFI P45 T2RS myself. Definitely loving that orange tubing~!

[MomijiTMO]

Go orange and black!

The race is on. I have some business to do tomorrow ;)

[twwen2]

Ok thanks everyone for your interest and patience!

I've had a really busy weekend that produced lots of photos, so expect a few updates this week, both on and off-topic. :D

I think Momo knows what i was up to... ;)

[evil-98]

aww come on pics! hows the accident case going?

[twwen2]

How's your health Twwen2 ??

My health? Good thanks! :) And yourself?
Why do you ask?


aww come on pics! hows the accident case going?

Haha pics are incoming tonight, stay tuned!!!

I saw a solicitor last Thursday, they are gonna handle the whole thing for me. The university runs a community legal clinic where final-year law students act under the supervision of a qualified solicitor. It's part of their degree, and as a community service it's free! :D Until we go to court that is...

I had an interview with one of the students and he said that the clinic would deal with the other party, all i needed to do was give them all the details, repair quotes and they'll do all the hard work. I honestly couldn't believe my luck when i found out it wasn't gonna cost me a cent! :yepp:

[BlueAqua]

That Feser UV orange tubing looks great. I love orange/black combos. Can't wait for updates. ;)

[twwen2]

That Feser UV orange tubing looks great. I love orange/black combos. Can't wait for updates. ;)

Me too! Just like that pretty car in your avatar...:D

[twwen2]

Boys will be boys: Rad cleaning

Another little update. This one will make IanY proud! :D

As most of you know, my rad got gunked up with F1 dye, and unlike my pump and blocks cannot be dismantled for cleaning. IanY suggested that i hook it up to the garden hose and blast it. So on Sunday morning, that's exactly what we did...

Me and a uni mate got up to a bit of mischief, but i was stoked with the results. Have a look and enjoy. :rofl:

First thing i did was to melt my 7/16 Masterkleer and stretch it over the tap fitting. It barely went on, just look at the stretch in the pic below! :eek:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000174.jpg
But on it went, with a handy worm-drive clamp making sure it won't be coming off in a hurry!

The other end was attatched to the PA like so:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000176.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000177.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000178.jpg

After triple-checking the barbs and tubing, we turned the tap on...
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000180.jpg
Just look at those biceps! I really should hit the gym sometime soon lol

Little by little, the pressure was turned up:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000181.jpg

Now it was really fizzing!
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000182.jpg

As per the title, our immature minds couldn't resist a little... C'mon, it was just asking for it yeah?
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000183.jpg
Ahh, that feels better! :rofl:

Now the aussies here will know that we're still on stage 3 water restrictions. Pretty much that means no watering lawns or gardens by hose. There are some exceptions, but what we were doing was definitely not allowed!:p:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000184.jpg
That should help the lawn a bit...:up:

And one last one with the rad draining:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000185.jpg

I had a look into the PA through the inlets, and there is still blue in there. But i figure that anything that has the potential to come loose already has. I'm telling you we let rip with that tap! :ROTF:

There's another off-topic update inbound, it'll be up as soon as my mate puts the photos on facebook. Until then... :up:


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[Kibbler]

I admit I was disappointed that the first action shots did not have any brilliant spray of blue water. Pretty cool and definitely xtreme:D

[bianco]

good to see your project moving along twwen2.
:up:

[MomijiTMO]

I can't believe my arms are actually bigger than someone elses!!!! That's amazing.

Yeah Level 5 here. We were on Level 6 but we had a great summer.

I'm glad that rad is cleaner now. It's not something you want to replace.

[Dangals]

Nice one twwen2 -funny how a little toilet humor never really gets old :yepp:

Can't wait for some pics of the build coming together now that you managed to clean your rad.:up:

Yeah we have only just been dropped from level 3 to level 2 restrictions as we have had some great rain lately - which means that we can now wash our cars with a hose again :)

[switch8]

I can't help but check out your flow!

You really did make a mess of your lawn, those pictures don't do it justice. How's the grass looking?

My photos seemed to turn out okay after all! Keep up the good work! Looking forward to seeing the grand finale!

[twwen2]

I can't believe my arms are actually bigger than someone elses!!!! That's amazing.

Lol don't rub it in bro! I'm working on it i swear. It's metabolism at it's worst haha! :p:


Nice one twwen2 -funny how a little toilet humor never really gets old :yepp:

Can't wait for some pics of the build coming together now that you managed to clean your rad.:up:

Yeah we have only just been dropped from level 3 to level 2 restrictions as we have had some great rain lately - which means that we can now wash our cars with a hose again :)

Wash my car, are you crazy!? Lol i can't remember the last time my car got washed, the poor thing.:( It gets a clean everytime it rains lol :yepp:


I can't help but check out your flow!

You really did make a mess of your lawn, those pictures don't do it justice. How's the grass looking?

My photos seemed to turn out okay after all! Keep up the good work! Looking forward to seeing the grand finale!

Aha there he is, my accomplice in toilet humour! Everyone, meet switch8, one of my mates from uni. He was over on Sunday morning helping me out with the rad cleaning and photography. :up:

[switch8]

Thanks for the intro. Nice to meet you guys, haha

Don't worry twwen2, i don't think they realise you are about 10ft tall, plays a big part on size! (unless you are genetically gifted)

[IanY]

twwen2,

Good job on the flushing. I'm proud of you.

Normally, I would prescribe what works for me, but I don't want to put you through unnecessary risk. I use a power washer on all my rads, but I'm worried about you damaging your pA120.3. My TCs have not been damaged on low settings on the power washer (its gas engined power lol) and I use that setting to blast my car wheels clean of brake dust, especially after a hard romp on a rainy day.

The outdoor tap should be plenty powerful for you. No sense being an egotistical hero (aka moron) like me :p:

[twwen2]

Lol that power washer sounds like fun!

There's still a blue film inside the rad which won't come off, it's really annoying me actually. However after that tap blast and about 15 rinses with boiling water, whatever is coming out has already come out. I think the blue film is there to stay...:(

In better news, i recieved notification today that my backplate for the EK Supreme has been shipped, finally! Expect some decent updates later this week. :up:

[twwen2]

Update week!

I thought i might do a quick mockup using the mobo tray, with the intention a getting the rig up and runnning on air so i could intall Vista. Sadly, that won't be happening anytime soon thanks to the designers at DFI :rolleyes:

Check it out:

The bare tray
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000146.jpg

With mobo
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000148.jpg

GPU and RAM installed
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000150.jpg

Ilove this angle, the 4870 stock cooler looks awesome if you ask me :D
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000152.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000157.jpg

CPU and cooler
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000160.jpg

In she goes...
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000163.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000164.jpg

Now one with the cooler sitting on the CPU. Those of you with a keen eye will notice that the push-pins aren't actually down. The stock intel cooler actually hits the NB cooler (also stock), ensuring that there will be no air-cooled action. What was DFI thinking...?:shrug:

Oh well i guess this rig will be a pure WC one, never to see the air of day...:rofl: man that was lame
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000169.jpg

Stay tuned, i've got heaps of updates in store for this week. It's just a matter of finding the time to write them up amidst uni assignments and part-time work!


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[bianco]

talk about bad design.
maybe you can remove the stock push pins and use the screw mounts for ek supreme?

and looking at your dominators makes me miss my ddr2s...

[twwen2]

Mt Buller '08

I've been at the snow this last weekend, or what was left of it anyway.:D Myself and a group of friends decided last-minute to pack the cars and head to Mt Buller for a Sunday/Monday overnighter. We traveled up on the Sunday afternoon, spent the evening at a ski resort in Mansfield; drinking beer and champagne and sitting around in the spa just chatting. The next morning we got up early, and after a buffet brekky we drove up the mountain and hit the slopes! Because it is now springtime down here, there's not as much snow as during the peak season, but still plenty enough to have a day's worth of skiing/boarding. Enjoy the pics!

Two of my crazy mates, Nick (left) and Pete (right). We had just finished cooking ourselves dinner.
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385614_9239.jpg

Unloading the cars up on the mountain. We parked in the day carkpark and caught the shuttle bus up to the village. I'm adjusting my headgear, second from the right.
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385619_768.jpg

Ben and his fiance Karina on the bus
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385620_1066.jpg

Pete and myself (left) on the bus
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385621_1387.jpg

Why do i always have to wait for the slow boarders!? Skiing FTW! :rofl:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385623_1993.jpg

We spent a good portion of the day building and using a jump on one of the quieter runs. Here's some pics of the craziness:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385625_2600.jpg

It's only a little one, c'mon we're all noobs (except Steve, pics soon!)
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385626_2951.jpg

Pete was quite happy just to watch at the start.:rofl:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385627_3257.jpg

Nick however, got straight into it!
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385628_3582.jpg

Steve got some good air too
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385648_501.jpg
Pete says "that looks piss easy, i can do that!"...

We'll see Pete :p:

Good start
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385637_6502.jpg

Starting to look bad
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385639_7245.jpg

Oh dear, what happened Pete!? :ROTF::D
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385640_7578.jpg

It's ok, he's all good. :up:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385641_7917.jpg

Nick had a real bad jump towards the end, he was pretty sore after this one!
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385655_3043.jpg

Me having a go. I'm not much of an aerial skiier :p:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385657_3760.jpg

Probably Steve's best grab! :shocked:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385659_4514.jpg

And one last happy snap of the group before we left. I'm third from the left, in between Steve and Pete.
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Buller%202008/n740258522_1385668_7925.jpg


All up it was a ripper weekend. The company, the food, the snow, it was all awesome. Man, i need to find some hobbies that aren't so expensive!!:rolleyes:


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[BlueAqua]

Nothing beats a good ski trip. Nice pictures!! ;)

It should be an interesting week if you keep posting. ;)

[Dangals]

nice work Twwen2 - weird about the stock cooler though...:shrug:

wish I had the time (and money:rolleyes:) to go to the snow....oh well maybe next year.

[twwen2]

Fan wire soldering: Burnt fingers and other fun stuff!

This has been done before, but i thought i'd show how i went about it. The pictures speak for themselves, but essentially all i did was to snip the last connector off, solder it to the middle fan's wire, then snip that connector off and solder to the end wire.

That was very badly worded, so just look at the pictures. :p:

The first cut
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000189.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000188.jpg

The second cut
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000191.jpg

First join complete
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000193.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000194.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000197.jpg

All finished. Notice that i forgot to shrink one of the wires before i soldered it. I have to get my hands on some black electrical tape to clean it up. :(
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000198.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000200.jpg

The EK backplate i've been waiting on has finally arrived, so the real work has finally begun. Thanks for reading and i promise more very sonn!


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[Dangals]

:woot: for update - nice work and looking forward to pics of it coming together.:up:

[BlueAqua]

Nice!! Can you take more pictures of the tubing please? Oh, and a quick review of it? I'm interested in it, but just unsure at this point. Thanks

[Kibbler]

Perfect!! Thanks for the soldering/splicing pics. I had a general idea how to do it, but your step by step photos really help. Now I know the sequence to put sleeving here, shrink here, then solder, then sleeve, etc.

How did you strip the fan wires in the middle like this??
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2425/im000191gf5.jpg

[twwen2]

Perfect!! Thanks for the soldering/splicing pics. I had a general idea how to do it, but your step by step photos really help. Now I know the sequence to put sleeving here, shrink here, then solder, then sleeve, etc.

How did you strip the fan wires in the middle like this??

Yeah that was a PITA. I used the wire stripper to cut the insulation at each end, then used a razor blade to remove the insulation in between the two cuts. It was a bit fiddly but it seemed to work.

[twwen2]

Nice!! Can you take more pictures of the tubing please? Oh, and a quick review of it? I'm interested in it, but just unsure at this point. Thanks

Sure thing. My first impressions are:
- looks great, especially under UV.
- is quite stiff. others may disagree, but it's definitely much stiffer than the masterkleer and Pro-LRT that i also own.


Great Work... :up:

I sure do wish we had mountains in Texas, oh well, that's why God made Coloado, so Texans would have a place to ski...:up:

I wish we had bigger mountains. Buller is good for a day or two, but it's not big enough for a weeklong stay. Look out NZ next year! :up:

[Kibbler]

Yeah that was a PITA. I used the wire stripper to cut the insulation at each end, then used a razor blade to remove the insulation in between the two cuts. It was a bit fiddly but it seemed to work.
Thanks man, I'll give it a shot.

[twwen2]

Fans and more Sleeving

The Lian Li V350 has 3 internal fans, two intake 120mm and one exhaust 80mm. They are black ball-bearing, fast and loud. Naturally they must be swapped out for something more appropriate! :D

The new fans are these:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=69&products_id=24114
They have orange UV-reactive blades and 4 white LEDs in the corners. They fit in great with the "orange and black" theme.

Here's my trusty workbench with everything laid out
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=69&products_id=24114

We'll start with the stock 80mm fan
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000227.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000228.jpg

And it's classy replacement
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000229.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000231.jpg

Another arty-farty shot. Sorry these are so pretty, i just couldn't resist.:p:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000232.jpg

About to be attached with a trick sound dampener
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000233.jpg


Then i got to work on the 120mm fans. They are held in a cage of sorts, the pictures make things pretty clear i hope. :)
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000234.jpg

Just the final shots now:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000235.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000236.jpg


I decided to sleeve the internal case wiring. I used a combination of Techflex PET in 1/4" and 3/8".

Ugly bare wiring:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000238.jpg

Much better!
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000239.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000241.jpg

And the bigger front-panel connectors:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000243.jpg

Everything back in the case
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000246.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000247.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000249.jpg

Next up I get to work on the HD4870. Think EK full-cover goodness. Yummmmmm....:cool:


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[MomijiTMO]

Great job on the sleeving. It's something I'm not a fan of lol but your effort makes me want to do the same.

[emuexport]

Awesome work twenn2! Looking forward to more pics and progress! Might get some more work done on my case this weekend seeing as we have a long weekend in WA.

emu

[emoners]

nice work twwen2! :up: picking up some pointers from you... :)

[Kibbler]

I've been lusting after some blingy fans like those xigmateks (or noiseblocker/gelid/nanoxia) for a while now, which doesn't make ANY sense since I already have brand new S-Flex's. You're not helping...:( Are there any performance tests for these newer fans?

[switch8]

Good work twwen2! It's looking good, the fans will make a nice addition! I sleeved most of my ugly cables today. Still not to happy on my case. I'm having a look at some full towers.
Keep giving the fans more of what they want! More updates! Are you showing the problematic case design photos?

[twwen2]

Great job on the sleeving. It's something I'm not a fan of lol but your effort makes me want to do the same.

Yeah it's a PITA but definately worth it IMO.


Awesome work twenn2! Looking forward to more pics and progress! Might get some more work done on my case this weekend seeing as we have a long weekend in WA.

emu

Long weekends FTW! :p: I've got a week off now but i'll be away, so no updates after tonight.:(


nice work twwen2! :up: picking up some pointers from you... :)

Cheers, glad i can help out :)


I've been lusting after some blingy fans like those xigmateks (or noiseblocker/gelid/nanoxia) for a while now, which doesn't make ANY sense since I already have brand new S-Flex's. You're not helping...:( Are there any performance tests for these newer fans?

Sorry bro, i couldn't resist myself. They're orange, which fits the build theme perfect. Malik has been using them too, they look great under UV. I've no idea what the fans perform like, i've got S-Flex F's on my rad and they're great. The orange ones will only serve as in-case airflow, so as long as i can't hear them on the controller i don't really care how they perform. :D


Good work twwen2! It's looking good, the fans will make a nice addition! I sleeved most of my ugly cables today. Still not to happy on my case. I'm having a look at some full towers.
Keep giving the fans more of what they want! More updates! Are you showing the problematic case design photos?

Good job on the sleeving, i'll have to check it out sometime soon. More updates incoming!

Yes i have been having some serious problems with the case, but i've managed to push on and have found solutions to everything so far. Pics up shortly! :up:

[bianco]

wonderful update!
nice sleeve job... and those fans are awesome
btw, how noisy/silent are those?

[twwen2]

Parts underwater, well not quite yet...

A few evenings ago i felt compelled to tackle the GPU. :D
Most people comment in their logs that taking the graphics card(s) apart is the scariest thing they have to do, i can testify to that! Usually the GPU is the most expensive part in the build, so it makes for nervous times. :p:

Now i've taken a few stock coolers off in my time, but none as large and heavy as this one. I'm pleased to say it went well. :)

Stock card
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000203.jpg

All screws taken out and cooler removed
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000205.jpg

EK full-cover block installed. Sorry i was concentrating so hard on the removal and installation of the block i forgot to take any other pics of the process. But most people are familiar with the deal, and the end pics are nice too. :up:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000208.jpg

Ok, as you can see, the card is still gonna take up two slots in the mobo tray thanks to the double-width PCI bracket. But i need all four available slots, so the bracket must go. But what can i replace it with...?

Koolance to the rescue!!! :rofl:

Yep, that's right, koolance make a single-slot bracket for Radeon cards. It's actually for the x1900 series, but ATi haven't changed their DVI port arrangement since.

The old and new brackets
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000212.jpg

New bracket installed
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000214.jpg
Walla! :up:

I decided to install my CPU and NB blocks while i was in the mood...:ROTF:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000252-1.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000254-1.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000258.jpg

I almost couldn't get the Supreme on. With the EK backplate installed under the mobo, the screws weren't quite long enough to allow me to screw the top nuts down. However i persevered, and after much cussing and pain i got them all on:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000259.jpg

Here's one of my favourite pics so far:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM100272.jpg

Now in my jubilation i whacked the GPU into the mobo and went to slide it into the case to take some happy snaps, and to my dismay i found this:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000252.jpg

Yep, that's right. Your eyes do not deceive you. The GPU block is too tall to slide the mobo tray in. DAAMIT!

"oh well", i hear you say, "you'll just have to install the card once the tray is in the case." Unfortunately it's not that simple. The internal HDD cage is the same height as the offending bar, and so card won't actually ever fit int the case! :eek:

So in my desperation last night, i decided to do some Xtremely noob case modding. Hey, everyone has to start somewhere! :p:

First to go was the HDD cage. Removing that involved drilling out the rivets that attach it to the case frame.
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000269.jpg

Then i grabbed my trusty hacksaw and attacked the frame:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000274.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000273.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000270.jpg

Now the card will slide in nicely :)
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000275.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000276.jpg

Unfortunately removing part of the frame has weakened the structural integrity of the case, but i found that once the mobo tray was installed with its thumbscrews it held together nicely. It's wasn't gonna fall apart or anything, but i could tell the frame was a little weaker. I'm not really worried about it, it's not like i'll be sitting on the case anytime soon...!:p:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000277.jpg

Here's a few more shots of the mobo & GPU inside the case. The pictures demonstrate just how much room i have to work with.

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000278.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000281.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000283.jpg

Here's a good side-on perspective
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000284.jpg

And a few more arty shots:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000285.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000286.jpg

That's it for tonight folks. I'm quite pleased with my progress so far, and am almost ready to install everything and plumb the tubing runs etc. Unfortunately for you guys, i'm going away with my family this next week, and so there will be no more updates until Friday at the earliest. Sorry for the delay, but one must live a family life too :D

Thanks once again for reading, i hope you guys are still enjoying the log.

Cheers :toast:
Tom

[IanY]

Awww... you should have sawed off the video card rather than the beautiful case :p:

Don't you hate it when stuff is made for the lowest common denominator instead of compatibility with the high end stuff? lol :)

[emoners]

looking good bro! too bad you had to hack a piece of the lili case

[Lagaaja]

I think I'll go for this case in my next build, and this log surely has given me some great perspective!

[Dangals]

Nice work :up:

Looking forward to some more updates when you get back:yepp:

[MomijiTMO]

Nice job! Yeah once you start cutting the crossbeams, you begin to realise how light and easy to damage aluminium is. =X

Taking off the mammoth GT200 heatsink took me some time. It was hard to get the top and bottom to actually split. A flathead screwdriver was my saviour =D.

[twwen2]

Awww... you should have sawed off the video card rather than the beautiful case :p:

Never!!!:shocked: R3 would have had to shoot me :ROTF:


looking good bro! too bad you had to hack a piece of the lili case

Yeah i'm actually a bit dissapointed with the case. Don't get me wrong, it's simply beautiful, well built (quality wise) and did i say beautiful? :D

There's just been one too many times where i've found my self saying "FFS, what the hell were Lian Li thinking when they designed this part or that part..."


I think I'll go for this case in my next build, and this log surely has given me some great perspective!

Sweet, i look forward to seeing it. :)


Nice work :up:

Looking forward to some more updates when you get back:yepp:

Me too! Sorry everyone for the weeks delay, i'm so close the finish line was in sight...:(


Nice job! Yeah once you start cutting the crossbeams, you begin to realise how light and easy to damage aluminium is. =X

Taking off the mammoth GT200 heatsink took me some time. It was hard to get the top and bottom to actually split. A flathead screwdriver was my saviour =D.

Yeah alu is fragile, but nice to work with because it's so soft.:yepp:

And lastly i'm honoured to have the stamp of approval from R3. I thought you might like my choice of waterblocks lol :up:

[IanY]

R3 woud have lectured you into the virtues of importing a MM case lol

[YugenM]

That EK GPU block is a sexy little number

[bianco]

a showcase of ek wbs... and of course your workmanship Tom :up:
nice touch on the stoppers for the gpu wb... now i wish i got some of those as well.
hahaha

[evil-98]

hey bro, nice update! lol im seeing doubles "glancing over to my mobo"

thanks for getting that koolance single slot bracket, was wondering if it fitted or not
im just going to cut mine but i was still wondering lol

more updates! :up:

[emuexport]

FULLY SICK SUBWOOFER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

awesome work twenn2!!!
loving the pics. Natural light seems to work well with your camera.

hopefully i'll get some work done on my mod! Have a uni assignment to do that I have been putting off!

you on WCG yet? I just signed up.

emu

[MomijiTMO]

Yes those dreaded uni assignments =XXXXXXXXX

Prepared to be diagnosed with a new disease. Also expect a phone call from someone around your dad's age if you slack off crunching.

[twwen2]

R3 woud have lectured you into the virtues of importing a MM case lol

ha, never!!!! They're too expensive anyway :eek:. This case only cost me $150AUD, it's gotta be the cheapest all-alu Lian Li on the market i reckon.


That EK GPU block is a sexy little number

Sure is, i just hope the acrylic doesn't crack on me. In my ideal world i would have a nickel block with acetal top, but EK don't do that combo and they don't offer replacement tops yet either.:(


a showcase of ek wbs... and of course your workmanship Tom :up:
nice touch on the stoppers for the gpu wb... now i wish i got some of those as well.
hahaha

Thanks, what stoppers are you talking about?


hey bro, nice update! lol im seeing doubles "glancing over to my mobo"

thanks for getting that koolance single slot bracket, was wondering if it fitted or not
im just going to cut mine but i was still wondering lol

more updates! :up:

Yes, i was really excited when i found the bracket. Perfect fit.


FULLY SICK SUBWOOFER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

awesome work twenn2!!!
loving the pics. Natural light seems to work well with your camera.

hopefully i'll get some work done on my mod! Have a uni assignment to do that I have been putting off!

you on WCG yet? I just signed up.

emu

:ROTF: What subwoofer? :D
Glad you like it!

Don't mention Uni assigments, i have four due the week after this, three on the friday. :mad:

I'm so glad the pics turned out ok. I've said before that it's just a POS (translated as Piece Of :banana::banana::banana::banana: or Point and Shoot. :rofl:) HP camera, but as you say it needs the natural daylight to produce pics of any real quality.

[twwen2]

you on WCG yet? I just signed up.

emu

I wish i could, but i don't have intraweb access in my room. The only PC with net access is the lappy in the lounge, and it struggles just running IE in windows XP! :rolleyes:

[MomijiTMO]

ha, never!!!! They're too expensive anyway :eek:. This case only cost me $150AUD, it's gotta be the cheapest all-alu Lian Li on the market i reckon.

Yeah there is quite a price jump from mATX/ATX to full towers =X. My cases sell for $118 now. Cheap is so delicious.

[YMAA]

Great work!!

[ownage]

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000275.jpg

OK, you fixed that little problem, but what if the tubing is attached?

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w31/viper1405/V350%20build/tubing02.jpg

[twwen2]

That's a very valid question.

The 4870 is gonna be in the furthermost PCI-E slot, so on the far right of that picture. I'd hope that the tubing could be pushed down to clear the frame. Note that this would only be an issue when i want to slide the mobo tray in or out of the case. In both these scenarios the loop would be dry/drained, thus reducing the risk of a leak due to my fiddling/pushing on the tubes.

However, if worst comes to worst i'll just have to install the card with the tray already in the case. I'll see how i go.;)

Thanks for ruining my evening! :(:p:

Lol, J/K:up:

[affiliate13]

I was just reading through all my sub'd threads for the 1st time a a week or two and was really enjoying seeing everything you had got done so far, then that 1st shot where the card with block on it wouldnt fit it in appeared and i shouted nooooooooo! I felt real empathy for ya at that point.
Glad you got it sorted, excellent pics with lots of nice details. really looking forward to more.:up::D

[bianco]

Thanks, what stoppers are you talking about?


haha. these ones
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000275.jpg

[MomijiTMO]

I wish i could, but i don't have intraweb access in my room. The only PC with net access is the lappy in the lounge, and it struggles just running IE in windows XP! :rolleyes:

I wasn't going to comment on this but we are so different. I pay for our internet access so I have it coming straight to my room.

[twwen2]

I was just reading through all my sub'd threads for the 1st time a a week or two and was really enjoying seeing everything you had got done so far, then that 1st shot where the card with block on it wouldnt fit it in appeared and i shouted nooooooooo! I felt real empathy for ya at that point.
Glad you got it sorted, excellent pics with lots of nice details. really looking forward to more.:up::D

Wow it's great to see everyone getting involved. :) I promise there is more to come, you'll just have to look forward to next weekend.;)


haha. these ones

Ah yes, the exquisite BP plugs. Very nice i must say! :up:


I wasn't going to comment on this but we are so different. I pay for our internet access so I have it coming straight to my room.

The joys of living at home with strict parents.:rolleyes: I know they just mean good for me, but sometimes i wish i was treated like an adult more often. On the whole i love my family, they mean everything to me.:yepp: Just little things like that which get on the nerves every so often.

[emuexport]

lol I have cat6e cables running through my house. Wife doest mind too much as everything works! atm;) :D:rolleyes:

uni sux! whouda thought one degree wouldnt be enough!!;)
Only good thing is I'm not paying for it (work sponsored):cool::D

what are you guys studying? (besides XS!)

More pics!

ohh and where is that subwoofer!;)

[twwen2]

lol I have cat6e cables running through my house. Wife doest mind too much as everything works! atm;) :D:rolleyes:

uni sux! whouda thought one degree wouldnt be enough!!;)
Only good thing is I'm not paying for it (work sponsored):cool::D

what are you guys studying? (besides XS!)

More pics!

ohh and where is that subwoofer!;)

Haha, the sub is under the desk. Just a little logitech one, still fully sick bro tho :rofl:

I'm studying IT with a Security major at Monash Uni. Hacking and other fun stuff. :D
And in my spare time (or is it the other way around i wonder...) i study XS! :p:


Twwen....

You hacked a LiLi...:ROTF:

As IanY stated, if you wouldve bought a MM case, none of would have occured:ROTF:

Between you and Momo, I'm seeing some outstanding LiLi builds lately...:up:

Just remember that MM are Ascending to take over the World...Bawhahahahaha

I wish i didn't have to hack such a fine case, but one must do what one deems necessary, for the greater good.:yepp:
:ROTF:

And true, i would have no space problems in a MM! But i can't fit an MM in my little room, nor can i afford to import one.

[Breezyjr]

Sweet.....
You solved about 6 problems I was going to be facing with my next build....

So THANKS!!!:up::up:

Build is looking awesome so far!! Nice work. And, thanks for the great pics on the fan sleaving....

breezyjr

[ownage]

That's a very valid question.

The 4870 is gonna be in the furthermost PCI-E slot, so on the far right of that picture. I'd hope that the tubing could be pushed down to clear the frame. Note that this would only be an issue when i want to slide the mobo tray in or out of the case. In both these scenarios the loop would be dry/drained, thus reducing the risk of a leak due to my fiddling/pushing on the tubes.

However, if worst comes to worst i'll just have to install the card with the tray already in the case. I'll see how i go.;)

Thanks for ruining my evening! :(:p:

Lol, J/K:up:

:D
My V350 build is going to be pretty much the same, although I will use a much bigger radiator.
First I watch you making mistakes and such so I wont have to make them :up:

[emoners]

@twwen2 : where will the rads go by the way?

[BlueAqua]

I love Lian Li cases too, especially this one for a small and powerful rig. It's nice to see you having fun with this build. If you just bought some parts and put it together in one night we wouldn't get nearly as much enjoyment out of it. :)

It's nice to see your hard work and to see it all come together. Keep it up. :clap:

[twwen2]

Sweet.....
You solved about 6 problems I was going to be facing with my next build....

So THANKS!!!:up::up:

Build is looking awesome so far!! Nice work. And, thanks for the great pics on the fan sleaving....

My pleasure, i'm glad my log is helping others out. :yepp:



:D
My V350 build is going to be pretty much the same, although I will use a much bigger radiator.
First I watch you making mistakes and such so I wont have to make them :up:

Hah, is that how it is then! Twwen2 the guinee pig! :p: That's all cool, i'm good with that. It's satisfying having to solve each problem as it arises.


@twwen2 : where will the rads go by the way?

The mighty PA120.3 will be mounted somewhere on/under my desk. I'm actually having a hard time working out how i can do it, so if anyone has any suggestions, fire away. :up:


I love Lian Li cases too, especially this one for a small and powerful rig. It's nice to see you having fun with this build. If you just bought some parts and put it together in one night we wouldn't get nearly as much enjoyment out of it. :)

It's nice to see your hard work and to see it all come together. Keep it up. :clap:

Thanks for the encouragement! It really takes huge discipline on my part to resist the urge to just throw it all together here and now and get it up and running. But i love reading a good log and wanted to provide the same experience for others. Plus i get great feedback and suggestions this way too. :up:

XS FTW!

[emoners]

how about something like this?

http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/gallery-2008/lian-li/pc-v350b/v350b-07.jpg

from MDPC (http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/systems-2008/lian-li/tremeloes/lian-li-pc-v350b.htm)

[twwen2]

Ahh, you see i already have a PA120.3, and i'm not buying another rad. I think you'll understand that the PA won't be going inside the case anytime soon! :ROTF:

[HaCKs]

The same exact thing happened to me except I was in my supra and I was run off the road by some dumb blonde in an AUDI A4, I spun around twice and BONKED the center divider (ruining a $2000 bumper and cracking an $800 BBS rim) She claimed UP AND DOWN that because she didn't hit me it wasn't her fault, but the judge saw right through her and sided with me, I'm not sure about how things work in Australia but with how :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed americas justice system is and the fact that I was fine without a witness, you should be compensated. Were you wearing your leathers?

[twwen2]

The same exact thing happened to me except I was in my supra and I was run off the road by some dumb blonde in an AUDI A4, I spun around twice and BONKED the center divider (ruining a $2000 bumper and cracking an $800 BBS rim) She claimed UP AND DOWN that because she didn't hit me it wasn't her fault, but the judge saw right through her and sided with me, I'm not sure about how things work in Australia but with how :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed americas justice system is and the fact that I was fine without a witness, you should be compensated. Were you wearing your leathers?

Wow same scenario. Yeah i had my top half on, helmet, jacket & gloves. Was only wearing heavy jeans and sneakers down below though. The jeans didn't last long, let me tell you. :shakes:

Sneakers stayed on somehow though! :p:

I'm hoping (and quite confident) that with my witness stement and legal backing i will be fully compensated. It's all in the hands of the legal clinic now.:yepp:

[HaCKs]

I'll never ever get on a bike without full leathers. My father was a turn medic at Leguna Seca when he was younger and I grew up hearing about people getting burns under their leathers.

[twwen2]

***Ok guys, just a little heads up***

As you can tell, i'm back from my little holiday. Tonight i thought i would set up the tubing runs and get that all sorted. Well it turns out that the Feser tubing is too stiff and thin-walled to be able to make the bends i wanted, so i'mma have to re-think my layout. This might mean cutting some more holes in the case, specifically the mobo tray, just above the I/O shield.

In the meantime i have requested some replacement rotary fittings from BP, my RMA has been received and they said they'd let me know when the replacements are available. I've no idea how long that will take, most likely a few weeks. I was just gonna use the rotaries anyway, but once i installed them i could actually see them starting to separate under the stress, so i'm not gonna take that risk.

Here's to waiting paitently... :toast:

[BlueAqua]

***Ok guys, just a little heads up***

As you can tell, i'm back from my little holiday. Tonight i thought i would set up the tubing runs and get that all sorted. Well it turns out that the Feser tubing is too stiff and thin-walled to be able to make the bends i wanted, so i'mma have to re-think my layout. This might mean cutting some more holes in the case, specifically the mobo tray, just above the I/O shield.

In the meantime i have requested some replacement rotary fittings from BP, my RMA has been received and they said they'd let me know when the replacements are available. I've no idea how long that will take, most likely a few weeks. I was just gonna use the rotaries anyway, but once i installed them i could actually see them starting to separate under the stress, so i'm not gonna take that risk.

Here's to waiting paitently... :toast:

Sorry to heat about more waiting. I know how it feels and that's why you need backup rigs. :)

The Feser tubing is a bit stiffer than Tygon, but what kind of bend were you trying to make?

[twwen2]

+1 for spare rigs. Thankfully my previous rig is still operational.

The bend wasn't a really tight one, but a short section between two 45 degree barbs. The fittings were a bit too close together, which pinched the tubing i think. I'll see if i can get a pic or three to demonstrate.

Some good news: I got an email from BP this morning and my replacement barbs are about to be sent. YAY :D

[BlueAqua]

+1 for spare rigs. Thankfully my previous rig is still operational.

The bend wasn't a really tight one, but a short section between two 45 degree barbs. The fittings were a bit too close together, which pinched the tubing i think. I'll see if i can get a pic or three to demonstrate.

Some good news: I got an email from BP this morning and my replacement barbs are about to be sent. YAY :D

I too had a connection I needed to make that was pretty close. I was originally going to use two 45 degree barbs but ended up going with two 90 degree barbs. Think something like that might work?

[Mr.Guvernment]

sexA!

[twwen2]

Need moar airflow = Further nasty hacking of beautiful Lian Li case

Ok so here's the deal.
The case has two internal 120mm intake fans, which i've replaced (a few pages back). Also inside is an 80mm exhaust fan, also replaced with a more suitable candidate straight outa blingville.:rolleyes:

The 80mm exhaust fan is mounted on a perforated aluminium plate, shown in the pic below:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000228.jpg
As can be seen, there is probably more metal than perforation.:p:
A quick power-on test confirmed my fears, most of the air bounces back off the plate and is returned into the case. The grill is just too restrictive.:shakes:

So naturally something had to be done. Out to the shed!
Out came my trusty drill, hacksaw and metal file(s). I started by drilling some holes in each corner . I then used the hacksaw to cut between the holes, then finished the job off with a combination of files.

Here's a shot off the plate just before i put it all back together:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000323.jpg

Fan mounted on the plate
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000328.jpg

And the business side. I re-used the stock Lian Li fan guard (originally internal) to act as an external guard (but really to hide my awful cutting skills :ROTF:).
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000325.jpg
I'm actually quite pleased with the results! :)

The wait continues on the BP fittings. Give it a week and i reckon i'll be good to go :yepp:


*****

[MomijiTMO]

Good job. Restrictive vent GONE.

[twwen2]

Update Time!

Well since we're all still waiting on the replacement BP rotary fittings, i decided to start installing some other components into the case. I started with the DVD and HDD, eventually finding a combination that works.

The Scythe fan controller slots in the other side, and helps to neaten things up.
Next to go in was the PSU. Man i'm running out of room already! :eek:

Just see for yourelves...

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000333.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000334.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000347.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000338.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000339.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000341.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000342.jpg
There is actually a small gap between the mobo tray and the fan plate, large enough for me to pass some cables out. Pump molex & rpm, rad fans and temp sensor.

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000345.jpg

And now the wait continues...


*****

[IanY]

So Twwen2... sorry that Geelong Cats lost to Hawthorn by 27 points :)

[MomijiTMO]

It's nice to see everything in the box!

I'm watching the Bathurst 1000. Murphy/Richards aren't doing so well:( Still a LONG way to go.

[.Logic]

Coming along nicely twwen, I reall y want to see this finished ;)


It's nice to see everything in the box!

I'm watching the Bathurst 1000. Murphy/Richards aren't doing so well:( Still a LONG way to go.

But... but... but... the F1! :p: (sorry I'm a bit of an F1 fanboy ;))

[BlueAqua]

Looks really nice. Great cable management too. So you're going to have the pump and radiator outside the case?

[dingdong555]

It's nice to see everything in the box!

I'm watching the Bathurst 1000. Murphy/Richards aren't doing so well:( Still a LONG way to go.

Lowndes FTW!! 888 w00t!

Good job mate.

[MomijiTMO]

lol well he didn't have to smash into our car on mountain straight GRRRRR.

Anyhoo with bent steering we are in 6th. Not bad huh lol.

[emoners]

Looks really nice. Great cable management too. So you're going to have the pump and radiator outside the case?

hahaha I was gonna say the EXACT same things :D

[switch8]

Excellent twwen! More updates!
Looks great! Just a little more waiting time, then BAM! BP fittings your way!
Keep it up!

[bianco]

looking good twwen2!
btw, the dvd bezel... is that stock or painted black over the original white letterings? thanks man.

[twwen2]

So Twwen2... sorry that Geelong Cats lost to Hawthorn by 27 points :)
Ahh yes, we've moved on since then...:D I don't really mind, i don't even barrack for them. Twas a good hard-fought win by the Hawks.


Coming along nicely twwen, I reall y want to see this finished ;)

Me too :p:


Looks really nice. Great cable management too. So you're going to have the pump and radiator outside the case?

hahaha I was gonna say the EXACT same things :D

Lol. YES! :rofl:
I'll have pictures soon. I'm actually really pleased with the pump mounting. I've still gotta decide where to put the rad though...:shakes:

[twwen2]

Excellent twwen! More updates!
Looks great! Just a little more waiting time, then BAM! BP fittings your way!
Keep it up!

Thanks bro. :)


looking good twwen2!
btw, the dvd bezel... is that stock or painted black over the original white letterings? thanks man.

It's the Pioneer 215BK, stock. No painting, straight out of the box. :yepp:

[twwen2]

Pump & Radiator mounting

Ok i promised pictures of how i mounted the pump and now i deliver! :ROTF:
I also mounted the rad, there's some awful pics of that but they'll have to do for the meantime.

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000353.jpg
The UN pump brackets are teh bomb i tell you! :yepp:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000354.jpg

And now those horrible out-of-focus photos of the rad mounted
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000349.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000351.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000350.jpg

And lastly a shot of the case in position! This will be it's home for the next year or so. The EK res may well end up in that exact position, i'll have to experiment:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000352.jpg

It seems that the new BP rotary fittings are finally making an appearance, so hopefully i'll have mine soon...:shrug:


*****

[Kibbler]

Those D-plugs on the rad, they're friction fit? You're not worried about...you know...the rad falling over and the fittings pulling loose?

[twwen2]

Yes they're only held together by the force of the o-rings against the wall of the female plug. Thankfully that force is large! :rofl:

The rad won't be falling over anytime soon, as can be seen in the pic it is bolted to the side of the desk. ;)

Edit: Then again, the pic is so bad i don't blame you for missing it. In fact i wouldn't be surprised if i'm the only one who can see it! :ROTF:

[MomijiTMO]

Don't accidentally move your case too far or . . . . LOL.

Nice job and I like where you stuck the rad. Maybe if it was under your desk .. . . .. heater?

[switch8]

Looks great! You will barely notice that the rad is there (just don't forget it IS there!) ;)

[twwen2]

Don't accidentally move your case too far or . . . . LOL.

Nice job and I like where you stuck the rad. Maybe if it was under your desk .. . . .. heater?

Ah yes, you see i have a ducted heating vent under the desk, so the whole area under there is nice and warm in winter. :up: Not quite the location for the rad, i'm sure you'll agree! By having it on the outside, it doesn't suck any warm air.


Looks great! You will barely notice that the rad is there (just don't forget it IS there!) ;)

Lol i'll try not to! That's what the BP disconnects are for. :yepp:

[BlueAqua]

Great idea for mounting the pump and radiator. You really have chosen so many good parts for this build.

Have you thought about mounting the res on the side of the case? I just think those reservoirs are so much easier to work with when vertical.

[emoners]

interesting way of mounting the pump & the res...tho i'm not that crazy about mounting the rad away from the case. but anyhow, everything still looks good! :up:

[IanY]

Great ingenuity! Cute setup, although one wonders why you would put yourself through the pains of a small case lol

[twwen2]

Great ingenuity! Cute setup, although one wonders why you would put yourself through the pains of a small case lol

Don't bring that up lol. Never again! :rofl:
I swear, next time it's gonna be a full-tower lian li or tj-07, I NEED MOAR ROOM!!! :shocked:

:ROTF:

[evil-98]

Don't bring that up lol. Never again! :rofl:
I swear, next time it's gonna be a full-tower lian li or tj-07, I NEED MOAR ROOM!!! :shocked:

:ROTF:

i went the other way around tj-07 to a sg02 but im really starting to like this mid tower LILIs :up:

[twwen2]

i went the other way around tj-07 to a sg02 but im really starting to like this mid tower LILIs :up:

Don't you dare start another build before finishing this one! :mad:

You never finished Homewrecker V2, and if you buy another case i fear that this one will go the same way... :down: :D

[skinnee]

I am eagerly awaiting the next set of pics! Looking very good twwen! :up:

[emuexport]

Looks great twwen2!

Some of those pics look like I took them! lol ;)

I think I now have an idea on how to use my "spare" PA120.3 while I wait for the AUD to settle down and let me afford a Ascension BDS-Extension.

emu

P.s. I do have to wonder what the thinking was for SFF and external rad not mounted to the case.

[twwen2]

Looks great twwen2!

P.s. I do have to wonder what the thinking was for SFF and external rad not mounted to the case.

Cheers Emu :)
Well i had the PA120.3 from my previous build, and paid a pretty penny for it too.:eek:
So as you can imagine i was not in a hurry to part with it, nor put it aside. I had to make it work. I'm sure you'll understand ;)

Edit: 1000 posts!!!! YAY :D

[emuexport]

BTW

Got my learners permit today and first lessons tomorrow!

did you get it when the Xchange was 98c to the USD? Cos that was a much better deal than now (71c)

I do understand! I'm looking at mine wondering If I can hook it up for use when I am at home and disconnect it when I go to a LAN? That way I can have low temps and low noise at home and at a lan who cares about the noise!

More pics please! ;)

[twwen2]

BTW

Got my learners permit today and first lessons tomorrow!

did you get it when the Xchange was 98c to the USD? Cos that was a much better deal than now (71c)

I do understand! I'm looking at mine wondering If I can hook it up for use when I am at home and disconnect it when I go to a LAN? That way I can have low temps and low noise at home and at a lan who cares about the noise!

More pics please! ;)

You got PM!

Yeah thankfully i bought most of the wc gear back when the dollar was like 97US cents. :D Lost a bit through paypal though. :mad:

I thought i better clarify something. A few have made comments to the tune of "why didn't you mount the rad on the case". I completely understand that this being a SFF case, people presume it to be a LAN build. However this is not the case! (sorry, that was real lame)
I have never been to a LAN and probably won't in the forseeable future, so the case will most likely never have to move. Thus, portability is not a concern. Hopefully that clears things up somewhat. :up:

[MomijiTMO]

D= not a lan build. Blasphemy GRRR

I have been to 2 lans in my life, the ones were you pay and use their pcs. It was long and I was tired at 2am and my reactions were soooo bad. So yeah. Not too keen on lans but that's just me XD.

[switch8]

Don't bring that up lol. Never again! :rofl:
I swear, next time it's gonna be a full-tower lian li or tj-07, I NEED MOAR ROOM!!! :shocked:

:ROTF:

although i LOVE what you have done here. That has just confirmed my choice for the TJ-07!

oh.. can you hear that.. sorry it was just the echo coming from inside the TJ-07! :up:

[twwen2]

twwen2's hacking of precious Lian-Li case continues...

You guys should remember from a few pages back that i removed the HDD cage. I then mounted the HDD in one of the drive bays using a Scythe barcket some of you are familiar with.

However unbeknown to me, the bracket actually stopped the drive-bay cover from installing properly. This meant that when i put the case side panel back on, there would be an ugly gap.

So i had to do some more metalwork! :D

Here's the HDD installed in the bay. Note my sweet MS paint skills!
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000349-1.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000350-1.jpg

This one shows the bay cover unable to go in properly
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000351-1.jpg

The customary masking tape to protect the lovely aluminum
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000352-1.jpg

And the final cut
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000354-1.jpg

Now watch it slide in
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000356.jpg

And without the ugly tape
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000357.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000358.jpg

How awesome is that!!
I can't believe i actually did it without stuffing it up. :ROTF:


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[MomijiTMO]

Looking good. Keep it coming :)

[charles_h]

Nice job on that drive bay cover! I was going to say that if you botched it up, I have a massive box of those things from all the TJ07s I dissect.

the rad location is an interesting choice - at the very least it will be a good burglar deterrent. :D

Looking forward to more updates! :)

[switch8]

Nice work bro! Did you just use a hacksaw for the surgery? Looks great! Keep em' coming!

[twwen2]

Nice job on that drive bay cover! I was going to say that if you botched it up, I have a massive box of those things from all the TJ07s I dissect.

the rad location is an interesting choice - at the very least it will be a good burglar deterrent. :D

Looking forward to more updates! :)

Thanks Charles.:)\
A burgler deterrent you say? How so? :confused:


Nice work bro! Did you just use a hacksaw for the surgery? Looks great! Keep em' coming!

Yeah just my trusty hacksaw and file bro. No fancy-pants dremel around here!:D

[bianco]

hi thomas. how are you liking those feser uv tubes? what's the smallest bend can they do and at what length? sorry if my question is a bit... unstructured.
i'm just thinking of going colored tubes rather than colored coolants... though i'm not quite sure if the fesers/primochill colored tubes are as bendable as tygons.
thanks!

[charles_h]

Thanks Charles.:)\
A burgler deterrent you say? How so? :confused:
hehe... well, a hasty burglar may think that the hoses connecting your system to the rad are some kind of high tech anti-theft device. :)

[twwen2]

hi thomas. how are you liking those feser uv tubes? what's the smallest bend can they do and at what length? sorry if my question is a bit... unstructured.
i'm just thinking of going colored tubes rather than colored coolants... though i'm not quite sure if the fesers/primochill colored tubes are as bendable as tygons.
thanks!

Well, firstly i can whole-heartedly reccomend the Primochill Pro-LRT. I have the 3/8 x 5/8 clear stuff, so the bend radius is as good as its gonna get. It really is great stuff.

The feser tubing is not up to scratch i'm afraid. I have the 3/8 x 1/2 in orange, and it's just horrible. It's stiff, kinks easy and is just nasty to work with. Now before you go and say "that's cos it's thin wall", i also have some Pro-LRT in the same dimensions and it's miles better. A world of difference i assure you. It will still kink if you push it far enough, but it's soooooo much better than the feser stuff.

I'll try to get some pictures up for you.


hehe... well, a hasty burglar may think that the hoses connecting your system to the rad are some kind of high tech anti-theft device. :)

Haha i see. Yes well they will surely look at it and go "OMG WTF is that!!! :shocked:"

:ROTF:

[twwen2]

A new EK res!

In the previous pics i've shown my EK-RES 250. I was gonna put it on top of the case, mounted horizontally. However i really would prefer to mount it vertically, i understand it makes the bleeding process much simpler.
The problem is that the 250 is just so long that it puts too much weight on the pump bracket and mobo tray, plus it sticks out above the top of the case and looks ugly.

So obviously there was only one solution... Buy another smaller res!!!

But what about the 250? Well i couldn't just let it sit around, so i sold it too Switch8, my mate. He bought it off me for the price of my new EK-RES 100, which i got from flabbergast for $48AUD, the last one in stock!!! :D

Enjoy the pics :up:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000359.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000362.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000365.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000364.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000360.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000361.jpg

And some other inside shots with some tubing happening:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000367.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000370.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000374.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000375.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000376.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000377.jpg

And the wait for the BP rotary fittings continues.:mad:
I actually gave up on the RMA and ordered some from sidewinder, they should be here within the week.:up:

[Dangals]

mmmm update....thanks for the pic fix :up:

[Kibbler]

Wow....how lucky is that! your hard-mounted res and pump manage to line up exactly right:shocked:

[skinnee]

that res looks much better twwen!!! nice work! :up:

[switch8]

You are a champion! The EK 250 res is sitting right here in front of me! I can't stop playing with it, as it's my first piece of watercooling hardware! Thanks again twwen!

Also you have inspired me to log my own water build, when it is time..

Great work so far! The res does fit nicely on the pump!

[twwen2]

mmmm update....thanks for the pic fix :up:

My pleasure. :)


Wow....how lucky is that! your hard-mounted res and pump manage to line up exactly right:shocked:

You underestimate me my friend. :p:
The bottom port on the EK res is actually not in the centre, it's offset to one side. So by rotating the res on the pump, i can adjust the distance to the case till it's flush. Does that make any sense?


that res looks much better twwen!!! nice work! :up:

Cheers, i like it much better now too.:up:


You are a champion! The EK 250 res is sitting right here in front of me! I can't stop playing with it, as it's my first piece of watercooling hardware! Thanks again twwen!

Also you have inspired me to log my own water build, when it is time..

Great work so far! The res does fit nicely on the pump!

Haha no worries mate.
You'll love getting all the wc hardware, just make sure you have a job that can keep up with your growing addiction.;)

[disruptfam]

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey Thats my case!!!!

[twwen2]

Watchoo talkin about, it's mine brudder! :D

Yeah well you never finished yours, nearly broke my heart man :rofl:.
I had to do one for myself, it's so cute isn't it...:p:

[encrypt]

good work on this project twenn, helped me anyway :up:

[disruptfam]

Lmao!!!

I've been out for ages and you take my old gf (case) just like that!

DW you could never spoil her the way i did :)

[emoners]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2dvivso.jpg
good work on this project twenn, helped me anyway :up:
nice avatar there mate!

[twwen2]

good work on this project twenn, helped me anyway :up:

Hey glad i could help out! :)
Welcome to XS too :welcome:


Lmao!!!

I've been out for ages and you take my old gf (case) just like that!

DW you could never spoil her the way i did :)

:ROTF:
All that aluminium you had in there was almost sacralige!
We never even got to see her wet...:(

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[twwen2]

nice avatar there mate!

Lol i didn't even notice that!

Copyright FTW :p:

[bianco]

Well, firstly i can whole-heartedly reccomend the Primochill Pro-LRT. I have the 3/8 x 5/8 clear stuff, so the bend radius is as good as its gonna get. It really is great stuff.

The feser tubing is not up to scratch i'm afraid. I have the 3/8 x 1/2 in orange, and it's just horrible. It's stiff, kinks easy and is just nasty to work with. Now before you go and say "that's cos it's thin wall", i also have some Pro-LRT in the same dimensions and it's miles better. A world of difference i assure you. It will still kink if you push it far enough, but it's soooooo much better than the feser stuff.

I'll try to get some pictures up for you.


great info bro. thanks so much.
the only issue i have now with using colored tubes - the res! hahaha. thought about car tint... or put a led in there somewhere...

[disruptfam]

nice avatar there mate!

I LOL'ED!!!!

:rofl::rofl:

[switch8]

All that aluminium you had in there was almost sacralige!
We never even got to see her wet...:(

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

:ROTF:

[septim]

emoners you forget to welcome him... hehehe...

encrypt, welcome to XtremeSystems... you'll find alot of valueble info here...

disrupt, since you're back, maybe you'd care to continue your gf's rig, hehehe...

twwen2 nice work you've done so far...

[twwen2]

The Finale!

I never thought i would get to say this, but

THE BP RMA HAS ARRIVED!!! :shocked:

This means i can (and already have) finish this build. :D

The final stages of the project were fairly straightforward, i just had to:

- Measure, cut and install the tubing
- Fill and bleed the loop
- Connect all PSU cables
- etc

However i still managed to run into trouble, even this late in the piece...:shakes: You'll see what i mean soon.

First up the tubing goes in, courtesy of BP's rotary 45s!
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000386.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM100382.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000382.jpg

And now the pump and res. Can anyone spot my stupid mistake...?:ROTF:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000388.jpg
Yep, i mounted the pump so that it directly blocked the PSU cable plug. :mad: Yep, i had to rip everything apart, pull everything out so i could drill two more holes and move the UN bracket along a bit. :down:

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000385.jpg

Now with some distilled water and a drop of PT Nuke, the sole UV CCFL is turned on...
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000395.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000393.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM100389.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM100390.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM100386.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM100384.jpg

And last but not least, the case sides go back on, and the project is complete!
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000398.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000400.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000409.jpg

This one's my favorite, the shots where i could lay the camera on the desk came out best, they're nice and sharp like this one :cool:
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000404.jpg

Well i guess that wraps it up!
Thanks all for reading, i truly appreciate all the enthusiasm, advice and attention from everyone. :up:

Now, of course i'll continue to add bits and pieces to this log, i've gotta tranfser my HDTV card over from the previous rig, and there's overclocking to be done, but of course!:D

4GHz........here..........we.............come!


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[Dangals]

Nice work - the final result looks great :clap:

[BlueAqua]

Looks like a fantastic build Twwen2! We all make some mistakes on these, there are just too many variables in these builds. Great tube routing and use of fittings, looks very professional.

Where is your other stick of ram? :stick:

[disruptfam]

We require more pics of the finished build :)

[disruptfam]

I can help with the cable management side of things since i have the same case...

I can give you run down of what i did... But i wish i had a cam to show you properly :(

[emoners]

@twwen2: will you be making a window?

[MomijiTMO]

Bahha @ psu cable. I can't remember what bizarre things :D

Your pc is really good so time to oc this baby!

[emuexport]

Excellent work twenn2! on both your worklog and of course your case! :up::up::clap::clap:

Now comes the fiddly bit of getting your OC just right! Looking forward to temps and clock results!

emu

[twwen2]

Looks like a fantastic build Twwen2! We all make some mistakes on these, there are just too many variables in these builds. Great tube routing and use of fittings, looks very professional.

Where is your other stick of ram? :stick:

Haha it's in now.:D
I installed vista with just one stick for stability, you know the deal.


We require more pics of the finished build :)

Trust me, you don't!:p:
There's nothing left to shoot, just the plain black box really.


I can help with the cable management side of things since i have the same case...

I can give you run down of what i did... But i wish i had a cam to show you properly :(

Sure, go for it! I can't guarantee that i'll do anything about it, the box is all closed up now courtesy of 12+ screws. :rofl:


@twwen2: will you be making a window?

I'd love to, but at this stage i can't afford to get it done professionally, and i'm not gonna try myself!;)


Bahha @ psu cable. I can't remember what bizarre things :D

Your pc is really good so time to oc this baby!


Excellent work twenn2! on both your worklog and of course your case! :up::up::clap::clap:

Now comes the fiddly bit of getting your OC just right! Looking forward to temps and clock results!

emu

Thanks guys.:)
I can't wait to start the overclocking. So far i've spent 2 days straight installing software and downloading updates. I've taken two days off work to study for my exam tomorrow, and i can honestly say i haven't done a single minute of study...:shakes:

Wish me luck boys! :D

[emoners]

I'd love to, but at this stage i can't afford to get it done professionally, and i'm not gonna try myself!;)
coz it simply looks great & too bad it's gonna be covered up. :(

good luck on your exams mate!:up:

[MomijiTMO]

Yes even with the SP1 disc, Vista happily downloads so much garbage. Ugh that is the most annoying part of a new pc.

[bianco]

great work twwen2!

[skinnee]

excellent work twwen, congratulations! :clap: :clap: :clap:

We've all made the forehead slap type mistakes, its kinda like a right of passage. :D

[emoners]

We've all made the forehead slap type mistakes, its kinda like a right of passage. :D
:rofl: i have to agree...but it turned out pretty well in the end! very very good job twwen!:up:

[MomijiTMO]

Hey I remember one of my dumb moments. I attached my fans to the front panel and then realised that I should have attached the rad first. So on goes the rad and the fans were then attached but then the rad couldn't fit through the space. So I had to attach everything pretty much in the case which took me a lot more time, not to mention all the time wasted.

=D

[Oli4v]

You're Doing a GREAT job man !, looks very nice;)

Props up !

[evil-98]

looks great man! :up:

[twwen2]

great work twwen2!


excellent work twwen, congratulations! :clap: :clap: :clap:

We've all made the forehead slap type mistakes, its kinda like a right of passage. :D


:rofl: i have to agree...but it turned out pretty well in the end! very very good job twwen!:up:


You're Doing a GREAT job man !, looks very nice;)

Props up !
Thanks and welcome to XS! :welcome:


looks great man! :up:

Thanks all, the support is really appreciated. Glad you like it :up:

[twwen2]

~Encore~

Well, you asked for it! :rofl:

But i won't pretend that i don't enjoy the attention either...:p:

These pics are 1000 times better, i used a pseudo-tripod (box on top of chair) for all the shots. As you can see they come out nice and sharp.:up:

I actually took about 20 nice ones, then went to re-size them and lost a lot of detail in the process. They turned out looking like those disgusting JPEGs you see sometimes in 16bit color...

Being pretty upset, i ripped the sides off the case and took another 20 shots, but these ones are even better than the previous set!

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000453.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000454.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000455.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000456.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000457.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000459.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000475.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000476.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000460.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000463.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000465.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000467.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000468.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000473.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000472.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000450.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000452.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/wentworthmeister/Build%20Log/IM000449.jpg

I also managed to find some drivers for my 32bit Netgear wireless card to work on Vista x64, so i'm typing this on the new rig as we speak! :cool:

Oh, i'll get to overclocking soon. But at 3.33GHz stock, who can complain!? 10x multi...... FTW! :ROTF:

P.S. The exam went great today. The questions were very similar to the sample exams provided for study, it happens that way every year! :rofl:

1 down, 3 to go...:rolleyes:


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[BlueAqua]

Great pictures Twwen! I really like how the pictures capture the vibrant color of the orange fans.

Why didn't you use orange tubing on the inside? Good to hear your test went well. I'm sure we can all agree to spending a little too much time with our hobby once and a while. ;)

[HawaiianSupermn]

Jeeze, very nice build! :D I wish there was a window on the side for 24/7 appreciation.

[Dangals]

Those photos turned out great - congratulations on a job well done :clap:

[MomijiTMO]

Great pictures Twwen! I really like how the pictures capture the vibrant color of the orange fans.

Why didn't you use orange tubing on the inside? Good to hear your test went well. I'm sure we can all agree to spending a little too much time with our hobby once and a while. ;)
Errrr holy cow I think us students really should get some kind of wc government grant seriously =|

Oh and from memory I think Twwen said the Feser orange tubing was too stiff for the tiny amount of room in that case.


Soooo how's that oc going? I am now joining you in cram cram time.

[twwen2]

Great pictures Twwen! I really like how the pictures capture the vibrant color of the orange fans.

Why didn't you use orange tubing on the inside? Good to hear your test went well. I'm sure we can all agree to spending a little too much time with our hobby once and a while. ;)

Thanks BA!
Momo is right, the feser tubing is way too stiff. Doesn't bend enough. Pro-LRT FTW!


Jeeze, very nice build! :D I wish there was a window on the side for 24/7 appreciation.

Cheers, i'm having a serious think about the window. For now i'm just running with one panel off so i can drool at the prettys :ROTF:


Those photos turned out great - congratulations on a job well done :clap:

Thanks again dangals. I'm lovin ur log too :up:


Errrr holy cow I think us students really should get some kind of wc government grant seriously =|

Oh and from memory I think Twwen said the Feser orange tubing was too stiff for the tiny amount of room in that case.


Soooo how's that oc going? I am now joining you in cram cram time.

Where's my govt grant hey!?
Cramming.... FTW! :p:

[switch8]

Great Work Twwen2! Amazing finish! What are your temps like @ stock? Can't wait till you stretch this babies legs to 4GHz! I'm thinking with my TJ-07 build coming up, i'll either have it powder coated or just do it myself with some spray cans... I'm still undecided but i'll most likely attempt it myself!

Again, great work! Now relax and spend some time with your new little bundle of joy!

... don't mention exams.. makes me feel sick! ;)

[Retro]

twwen2::toast:
I guess as an aircooling guy I shouldn't be in here but had to comment on your superb build, and photos. Awesome job!
I was considering the Silverstone SG01-B, and an NZXT Rogue case as well, before I bought the Mini P180.
Didn't even think to look at the Lian-Li V-350B. Wish I had:rolleyes:

[pcaddict]

Awesome build! :up:

[septim]

nice finish. i think people are wishing for a small window and some lights though...

[masxerofkartis]

How the F*** did you mount that huge rad?

[twwen2]

twwen2::toast:
I guess as an aircooling guy I shouldn't be in here but had to comment on your superb build, and photos. Awesome job!
I was considering the Silverstone SG01-B, and an NZXT Rogue case as well, before I bought the Mini P180.
Didn't even think to look at the Lian-Li V-350B. Wish I had:rolleyes:

Ha, you're more than welcome here.:)
Thanks, i really like the case too.


Great Work Twwen2! Amazing finish! What are your temps like @ stock? Can't wait till you stretch this babies legs to 4GHz! I'm thinking with my TJ-07 build coming up, i'll either have it powder coated or just do it myself with some spray cans... I'm still undecided but i'll most likely attempt it myself!

Again, great work! Now relax and spend some time with your new little bundle of joy!

... don't mention exams.. makes me feel sick! ;)

Well at stock (3.33GHz and VID=1.05V), idle temps were 24 deg C and load was 29. Not bad eh?
At 4.18GHz and 1.25V, idle was 27 and load was 42.
Now i'm sitting at 4GHz, and idle is 26 with load reaching 39. Oh and GPU idles at 33, NB at 38.
Can't really complain about that!:cool:


Awesome build! :up:

Thanks! :)

[twwen2]

nice finish. i think people are wishing for a small window and some lights though...

Me too. I've got one side of the case off, i'm enjoying the view. After exams i'll hunt around for someone to cut me a window or two. :up:


How the F*** did you mount that huge rad?

It's bolted to the side of my desk, directly below the case. There was a few pics a few pages back.:yepp:

[switch8]

Well at stock (3.33GHz and VID=1.05V), idle temps were 24 deg C and load was 29. Not bad eh?
At 4.18GHz and 1.25V, idle was 27 and load was 42.
Now i'm sitting at 4GHz, and idle is 26 with load reaching 39. Oh and GPU idles at 33, NB at 38.
Can't really complain about that!:cool:
Thanks! :)

Oh very nice! :up: especially since it was particularly warm down here and your temps were still nice! Mine was idling at mid 40's in my hot pit of a room! (37 ambient :shakes:)

Great Job! I gotta see it for real after exams are done and dusted!
Also, good to see you're looking into a window (pun intended):ROTF: It will really make it that much sweeter!
Great work:D

[disruptfam]

Yeah trueeee... i guess if the the box is all closed up cable management isnt a must...

The way i did it requires cutting the case so i don't think you would want to do that anyways seeing how it's completed LoL...

nICE Build mate enjoy it!

[norim_13]

Great work with the case! Small case, big work! :up: