is 19"wide and 24"wide same for 1920x1080?

[22JHP]

i saw a graphic card's test about ms made on 19"wide 1920x1080 resolution.i doubt about test's legality.i think 19wide has not enough transistors for 1920x1080 and test results could be different than a test which made with 24" monitor.what's your opinion about this?

[Planet]

19 wide is normally 1440x900.

[22JHP]

yes i know normally 1440x900.he is overrided his monitor.i made a test on 19wide 1920x1020 and you made a test on 24" 1920x1200 with same g.card.could you say that's same?

[Xcel]

yes i know normally 1440x900.he is overrided his monitor.i made a test on 19wide 1920x1020 and you made a test on 24" 1920x1200 with same g.card.could you say that's same?

If your graphics card actually renders 1920*1200 during the test, then it's the same

[Xello]

yes i know normally 1440x900.he is overrided his monitor.i made a test on 19wide 1920x1020 and you made a test on 24" 1920x1200 with same g.card.could you say that's same?

I'm not sure what you mean by override, i didn't think you could set the resolution to higher than your monitor's maximum in a game.

If you mean how is he getting that resolution on a 19" monitor, then if it's a CRT i believe with the 5:4 ratio they can come in up to 1920x1440.

And i agree with Xcel, if both setups are at the same resolution then the graphics card is rendering the same image so it's the same. The image would probably be out of shape a little on a 1440p screen.

[Xcel]

I'm not sure what you mean by override, i didn't think you could set the resolution to higher than your monitor's maximum in a game.


In some cases you can, I ran 2560*1600 on my 19" crt in some games to check performance before I bought my 30". It worked but I only saw about 1/4 of the picture, screenshots showed the full resolution though. Fraps would also record at full resolution

[22JHP]

i didn't think you could set the resolution to higher than your monitor's maximum in a game.


yes i could and i'm not talking about CRT monitor.alright here's the thing.a guy tested 4870 x2's micro stutterring issue on 19wide LCD monitor at 1920x1080 res.do you believe test's legality?LCD monitors has optimal resolution like 19 5:4 monitor's 1280x1024 because pixels and transistors thing.You override your monitor and pixels&transistors not working in optimal resolution and you test micro stutterring.are you saying it's the same test which made with 24" LCD?

[Xello]

In some cases you can, I ran 2560*1600 on my 19" crt in some games to check performance before I bought my 30". It worked but I only saw about 1/4 of the picture, screenshots showed the full resolution though. Fraps would also record at full resolution

I've done that on desktop, didn't realize it would work in games, that would look weird.


yes i could and i'm not talking about CRT monitor.alright here's the thing.a guy tested 4870 x2's micro stutterring issue on 19wide LCD monitor at 1920x1080 res.do you believe test's legality?LCD monitors has optimal resolution like 19 5:4 monitor's 1280x1024 because pixels and transistors thing.You override your monitor and pixels&transistors not working in optimal resolution and you test micro stutterring.are you saying it's the same test which made with 24" LCD?

Well i believe it comes down to the issue that microstuttering is a product of a process which occurs long before the image data gets displayed on the screen, it's something that happens either in the graphics card / cards or between the card and the cpu, or something like that. Either way, how the monitor displays it and what monitor is displaying it doesn't matter, i would say. The graphics card doesn't take that into consideration, it simply renders the image data at the set resolution and sends that data to the screen. Which monitor is being used and that monitor's native resolution / size / aspect ratio has no effect on what the graphics card is doing.

Now, if this test was done using FRAPS, then i'm not quite sure exactly how FRAPS works so i can't say for sure. Does it read frames as they're sent from the graphics card or is it more to do with the screen?

[22JHP]

Does it read frames as they're sent from the graphics card or is it more to do with the screen?


i'm talking about micro stutterring.ask to your eyes.2ms LCD?so what's wrong 25ms LCD?Why pro gamers using CRT?Card is matter monitor doesn't matter?There's no way 1920x1080 on 19"wide LCD i think.it's not the same with 24" 1920x1080.19"wide not built for this res.

[Xello]

i'm talking about micro stutterring.ask to your eyes.2ms LCD?so what's wrong 25ms LCD?Why pro gamers using CRT?Card is matter monitor doesn't matter?There's no way 1920x1080 on 19"wide LCD i think.it's not the same with 24" 1920x1080.19"wide not built for this res.

Read what i said again... It doesn't matter what res the 19" is 'built' for, it has no affect on the processes which are to do with microstuttering.


I know LCD's can reach 1680x1050 at 19" i have one, but that resolution your saying on a 19" i dont think its possible right now

It doesn't matter if they can reach that resolution or not:


I ran 2560*1600 on my 19" crt in some games to check performance before I bought my 30". It worked but I only saw about 1/4 of the picture

[demowhc]

If your LCD screen is HDCP compliant then its possible to render a higher resolution and it gets scaled back to native res.. like I do with my PS3 in 1080p on a 1680x1050 screen.. so the tests are valid I would say..

[gillll]

i don't think there are 19" with 1920*1200 or 192*1080
1920*1080 is tv broadcast resolution and not native for computer screens.
plus both of them are wide resolution so 3:4 screen never use those res.

[Xello]

If your LCD screen is HDCP compliant then its possible to render a higher resolution and it gets scaled back to native res.. like I do with my PS3 in 1080p on a 1680x1050 screen.. so the tests are valid I would say..

Yes, and what we have established is that even without HDCP the higher resolution will still be rendered, you just won't see all of it on the screen, so it's still valid without it.


i don't think there are 19" with 1920*1200 or 192*1080
1920*1080 is tv broadcast resolution and not native for computer screens.
plus both of them are wide resolution so 3:4 screen never use those res.

Well 19" tend to be in either 1440x900 16:10 or some CRT's will be 5:4 for up to 1920x1440.

The 1920x1200 computer monitor standard is set to change to 1920x1080 in the next few years to become compliant with the 16:9 standard, though.