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Fitseries3
08-30-2008, 07:21 PM
I need to get a copy of the bios's for an asus top 4870x2. if anyone has them please let me know.

giraffen
08-30-2008, 07:51 PM
If you can wait can i send you them tomorrow

Fitseries3
08-30-2008, 07:52 PM
that would be awesome!

Sagart
08-31-2008, 12:04 AM
Can you send them to me too? :D
Or upload them so everyone can get them? :)

Fitseries3
08-31-2008, 09:08 AM
yes, please do... i know a ton of people that want them.

zbogorgon
08-31-2008, 09:53 AM
is Asuses TOP bios compatible with other, eg. Sapphire card ?

spl
08-31-2008, 10:40 AM
olso you can send to me the bios!!
thanks

fornowagain
08-31-2008, 12:01 PM
An upload link would most gratefully received, thanks.

BobyTT
08-31-2008, 12:31 PM
I would love to recieved it also, and i have Sapphire also , can i use this BIOS with sapphire?

Fitseries3
08-31-2008, 01:02 PM
you can flash most any bios from the same card to another card thats the same.... IE: VT 4870x2 <---> Asus 4870x2. the cards are the same just different bios's with different settings.

Hazzan
08-31-2008, 01:15 PM
I have this card..but I dont know what different TOP with non TOP :D

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2774/asusxd5.jpg

and this bios :

http://rapidshare.com/files/141643910/R700_1.bin.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/141644021/R700_2.bin.html

Fitseries3
08-31-2008, 01:16 PM
the x2 has 2 bios's. make sure to get both of them


the asus top card has clocks of 825/1000 i believe.

GLENBOY
08-31-2008, 01:23 PM
thanks hazzan as fitseries3 says above ( thumbs up for starting the thread) but the bios you have uploaded is not right for the x2 use gpuz to save both the master bios and the slave bios and re upload them if you can , the bios looks to me like a normal 4870 asus top bios rather than x2 and as fits says above higher clock speed and in overdrive the max value you can set is 900 core instead of 800 core

Hazzan
08-31-2008, 01:26 PM
ok maybe I will try latter...

GLENBOY
08-31-2008, 01:48 PM
thanks hazzan , yes they look right now , these bioses don't say which one is master and slave but the r7001.bin is master and the r7002.bin is the slave can you confirm hazzan that ati overdrive goes up to 900 on gpu core

Fitseries3
08-31-2008, 02:03 PM
how did you go about getting them saved from the card? im not saying you are inexperienced... just wanting to make sure everything is good to go before i flash my card.

GLENBOY
08-31-2008, 02:47 PM
right to save anybody else some time , flashed the bios these bios has to be forced flash as the SSID of the card is different but works a ok but overdrive limit is the same 800 on core so not much point flashing to it but i'd like to thank Hazzan for posting the bios and fitseries for starting the thread

zbogorgon
08-31-2008, 09:42 PM
you can flash most any bios from the same card to another card thats the same.... IE: VT 4870x2 <---> Asus 4870x2. the cards are the same just different bios's with different settings.

ASUS 3870X2 TOP had different PCB than reference design, eg. Sapphire...

Sagart
08-31-2008, 11:53 PM
I have this card..but I dont know what different TOP with non TOP :D

*Picture*

and this bios :

http://rapidshare.com/files/141643910/R700_1.bin.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/141644021/R700_2.bin.html
The TOP-version has 877MHz stock on core, higher vGPU and higher Overdrive-limit. ;)

Hazzan seem to have the non-TOP-version, but thanks anyway. :)

giraffen
09-01-2008, 04:49 AM
Sorry, itīs my eyes it wrong with :down:

HousERaT
09-01-2008, 04:57 AM
3870x2 top bios

http://rapidshare.com/files/141786966/BACKUP0.ROM.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/141787245/BACKUP1.ROM.html

I use atiflash to save/load the bios in dos
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1123/ATIFlash_3.60.html

I recommend that you save your own bios before flashing. :D
fitseries3 is looking for the 4870x2 TOP bios. ;)

Fitseries3
09-01-2008, 05:15 PM
still looking. thanks for trying though Hazzan. i appreciate it. we will find it soon. ;)

GLENBOY
09-02-2008, 10:13 AM
the big dogs don't want to share :( spoilsports come on somebody post the bios it is the freedom of information age ;)

spl
09-02-2008, 11:46 AM
the big dogs don't want to share :( spoilsports come on somebody post the bios it is the freedom of information age ;)

:clap::up:

where i can buy the asus top in the UE ????????

massman
09-02-2008, 01:10 PM
Oh no! You can't find the TOP bios via XS, what now? :shrug:

GLENBOY
09-02-2008, 02:32 PM
yes times are hard ,when noone is willing to post this bios especially here on xtreme, the home of modding and overclocking , spl i don't think the asus top 4870x2 is generally available for sale yet

GazC
09-05-2008, 01:41 PM
I think us common people will only see this bios become generally available after the top dogs have finished using it. :(

paakkis
09-05-2008, 02:53 PM
What are the voltages at gpu/mem @ this bios?

BulldogPO
09-06-2008, 06:00 AM
Dudes, someone has to have one?!?

GLENBOY
09-06-2008, 12:07 PM
not sure volts but if its like the asus 4870 top bios that was 1.276 instead of 1.25

BulldogPO
09-07-2008, 01:39 AM
Any other Bioses available that are not locked?

T_M
09-07-2008, 05:15 AM
Team.AU comes through with the goods.

800/1000 @ 100% fan, 900/1000 clock limit
Master:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ajfwjjlgbdx
Slave:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9qnmyqa92n4

T_M
09-07-2008, 06:14 AM
So far if i set BIOS vcore to 1.4V i get red lights on the PCI #1 card and no detection of that card in Windows, if i set 1.375V i get red lights and BSOD loading Vista, if i set 1.365V i get no screen loading Vista.

GLENBOY
09-07-2008, 06:54 AM
thumbs up for T_M and team AU, you're the dude

thanks t_m i can confirm bios working thanks a million , on anybody who does not already have an asus card you will have to force flash also you might need to reinstall ccc and driver i did, whats the max effective voltage is it 1.35 volt like on the 2900s or 1.276 like i seen somewhere thanks again oh and also can run 1000 on memory no probs now whereas anything over 950 before got artifacts :yepp: :clap: :woot::buddies::bounces::up:

GazC
09-07-2008, 07:16 AM
Thanks T_M and Team.AU I'm going to flash these babies now!

Well done for looking after the common folk! :)

T_M
09-07-2008, 07:51 AM
The max flashable Vcore is 1.35 for my cards.
Above that it wont load Vista.
At that setting, max vcore in 3d'06 firefly is about 1.365V real, 1.329 idle on desktop.

Yes you have to force flash (-f) to get past the SSID error in ATIFlash, but apart from that its hunky dory.
Right now im benching at 830/1000.

Wish i knew No_Name's secret to get above 900 core..... :s

spl
09-07-2008, 07:56 AM
thumbs up for T_M and team AU, you're the dude

thanks t_m i can confirm bios working thanks a million , on anybody who does not already have an asus card you will have to force flash also you might need to reinstall ccc and driver i did, whats the max effective voltage is it 1.35 volt like on the 2900s or 1.276 like i seen somewhere thanks again oh and also can run 1000 on memory no probs now whereas anything over 950 before got artifacts :yepp: :clap: :woot::buddies::bounces::up:
yes no problems with memory at 1000 but i flash without change nothing and i have the same voltage 1.27 both gpu!
for 1.35 i need to incrise the voltage on rbe to 1.35?
thanks T_M
thanks T_M
:clap::yepp::up:

T_M
09-07-2008, 08:01 AM
The BIOS that i posted is the TOP BIOS i recieved, then edited to 100% fan speed and 800/1000 at all PowerPlay settings.
The volts i set to 1.25V across all settings too (except for overheat protection).

Gautam
09-07-2008, 08:11 AM
The secret to getting past CCC limits is to not install CCC at all. ;)

GazC
09-07-2008, 08:23 AM
So these Bioses need to be altered manually with RBE ro increase the voltage?

I've flashed them successfully anyway, I'm just downloading 3dmark 03 and 06 (changed my Hard drive last week) and will test them out, I hope my artifacts are gone at 1000mem too!

spl
09-07-2008, 08:29 AM
i change the voltage on rbe to 1.35 but i read the same voltage on my card 1.27!!!

GazC
09-07-2008, 08:52 AM
yep, the artifacts are gone at 1000mem, great stuff. It didn't help my score though, I think I'm CPU limited with my q6600 at 3.8Ghz,

GLENBOY
09-07-2008, 09:02 AM
The secret to getting past CCC limits is to not install CCC at all. ;)

does amdgpu clock tool work with quadfire in vista to overclock them all without ccc

BulldogPO
09-07-2008, 09:27 AM
Hmm, I still canīt overclock this card.
http://bulldogpo.wippiespace.com/images/HD4870X2_3DMark06_25130.jpg

giraffen
09-07-2008, 10:29 AM
Thanks T M :)


Hmm, I still canīt overclock this card.


Gpu-z saids only 790/915, it should had been 800/1000 with the bios T M link to

jabski
09-07-2008, 10:35 AM
open RBE (link below), load the bios file and check clock 10,11 & 12. Set them to the values you want and then save the bios file. Then repeat for slave file

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jdkxbb9wbnn

Sagart
09-07-2008, 01:45 PM
This doesn't seem to work for me either. My card still crash @ 800MHz core, no matter if I set 1.30v or 1.35v in bios. :(

Anyone got it working?

C-N
09-07-2008, 02:12 PM
This doesn't seem to work for me either. My card still crash @ 800MHz core, no matter if I set 1.30v or 1.35v in bios. :(

Anyone got it working?

Mine works sort of!!!

Adjusting voltage has never & still doesn't actually change my cards voltage.

CCC goes ape & fights against GPU-Z so its best to can CCC so GPU-Z can read speeds, temps etc correctly. I also had to re install the video driver I am using the 8.9 BETA btw.

My card does & will run 860~870 core on its original bios although now its been running for a few weeks it wont make 3DMARK points up there anymore. My cores like about 830.

My memory on my stock BIOS would run 950 on one core & 1050 on the other however now I've flashed the ASUS TOP BIOS I can run 1070 on both cores.

I have my card at 825/1070 with my fan at 40% & a tweaked fan profile that raises to about 60% fan speed once the card is under load.

After all this messing about with the TOP BIOS I still cant identify any performance gain, I presume they have just slackened the memory timings off a bit to allow more head room.

CN :)

fornowagain
09-07-2008, 05:20 PM
The BIOS that i posted is the TOP BIOS i recieved, then edited to 100% fan speed and 800/1000 at all PowerPlay settings.
The volts i set to 1.25V across all settings too (except for overheat protection).

Thanks for your efforts T_M. I don't suppose you have the original TOP bios(s) unmodified?

r1rhyder
09-07-2008, 05:22 PM
Thanks for your efforts T_M. I don't suppose you have the original TOP bios(s) unmodified?


Second that. Can you upload the unmodded bios T_M?

Thanks

T_M
09-07-2008, 05:45 PM
Sure, tonight.
But its easy to make it for yourself from the ones above anyway ;)

Gautam, in CF 4870x2, are you saying that if i just uninstall CCC then i can set my BIOS clocks above the cap (800 for old BIOS, 900 for TOP) and the cards will be recognised and run fine? I saw No-Name's monster clocks and wonder if that is how he achieved it?

BulldogPO
09-07-2008, 09:15 PM
Thanks T M :)



Gpu-z saids only 790/915, it should had been 800/1000 with the bios T M link to

I'm using un modified Asus TOP bios.

jabski
09-08-2008, 12:39 AM
Sure, tonight.
But its easy to make it for yourself from the ones above anyway ;)

Gautam, in CF 4870x2, are you saying that if i just uninstall CCC then i can set my BIOS clocks above the cap (800 for old BIOS, 900 for TOP) and the cards will be recognised and run fine? I saw No-Name's monster clocks and wonder if that is how he achieved it?

Yes T_M. Thou i didnt unistall CCC. I just used RBE to create the bios files to what i wanted

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/6058/151wk7.jpg

Sagart
09-08-2008, 12:47 AM
I'm using un modified Asus TOP bios.

Could you upload this for us? :)

spl
09-08-2008, 02:29 AM
Team.AU comes through with the goods.

800/1000 @ 100% fan, 900/1000 clock limit
Master:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ajfwjjlgbdx
Slave:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9qnmyqa92n4


on the same post you have the asus bios !
:D

DeDaL
09-08-2008, 03:55 AM
what program you are use guys when you want to extract 4870X2's bioses ?

I use Atiflash 3.60s, after exrtaction i have 2 different sizes files, after that i cant edit via RBE1.14

C-N
09-08-2008, 04:17 AM
what program you are use guys when you want to extract 4870X2's bioses ?

I use Atiflash 3.60s, after exrtaction i have 2 different sizes files, after that i cant edit via RBE1.14

To the best of my knowledge you can still use Atiflash but you need to add 20000 to the end of your command coz its a 128k file not 64k like the earlier 3870's

I use GPU-Z to grab the BIOS's dead easy.

CN :)

DeDaL
09-08-2008, 04:30 AM
C-N thanks , i just forget about it

r1rhyder
09-08-2008, 04:35 AM
on the same post you have the asus bios !
:D

Call me picky, but I would rather have the original that does not have the tick mark next to modified.

fornowagain
09-08-2008, 05:19 AM
Sure, tonight.
But its easy to make it for yourself from the ones above anyway ;)

That would be great, just like to start from scratch.

T_M
09-08-2008, 05:25 AM
Use GPU-Z to grab Bios 0 and Bios 1.
Then edit using RBE.
FInally, flash using ATIFlash in DOS

Here's the TOP Bios's unmodded for the picky people:
http://www.mediafire.com/?48xsfx13bzx
http://www.mediafire.com/?k2l1dhn3m3m

BulldogPO
09-08-2008, 05:29 AM
What software do you use for overclocking? CCC doesīnt change clocks for me :( (I will try that Team-AU modded bios now.)

T_M
09-08-2008, 05:30 AM
I create Bios's and flash clocks, i dont attempt to use CCC or AMDGPUClockTool cos none seem to work for me all 4 cards.

If you have a special request for clocks i will modify the TOP bios for you and post it.

r1rhyder
09-08-2008, 05:42 AM
I really appreciate it T_M, thank you. And I agree, nothing overclocks all four gpu's with my crossfirex either.

Sagart
09-08-2008, 05:57 AM
Thanks for the bios, Tim. :)

Kinc said anything about an hardmod for the biosvoltage-setting to work, didn't he? Anyone know anything about this?

Atleast setting voltage in bios doesn't seem to work on my Sapphire-card.

T_M
09-08-2008, 06:18 AM
Definately for me to get 820core to load vista, i have to set more than 1.25V in the BIOS.
Using 1.35V works well.

T_M
09-08-2008, 06:30 AM
:hump:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/T_M/1020mem.jpg

GLENBOY
09-08-2008, 07:32 AM
I really appreciate it T_M, thank you. And I agree, nothing overclocks all four gpu's with my crossfirex either.


hiya steven (wot you doing on here ;) ) i see you've got the bios now

works ok this 1000mhz on memory no artifacts , i think asus have loosened the timings as its not much quicker than 900 and odd , ati overdrive has 900 gpu core in as well

RADCOM
09-08-2008, 08:13 AM
To the best of my knowledge you can still use Atiflash but you need to add 20000 to the end of your command coz its a 128k file not 64k like the earlier 3870's

I use GPU-Z to grab the BIOS's dead easy.

CN :)
what do you mean add 20000?

Gautam
09-08-2008, 08:32 AM
What software do you use for overclocking? CCC doesīnt change clocks for me :( (I will try that Team-AU modded bios now.)

CCC does change the clocks, just select each core seperately. Ignore GPU-Z, the gains are there.

C-N
09-08-2008, 10:56 AM
what do you mean add 20000?

Application, command to backup, adapter number, file name, size.

atiflash -s 0 master.rom 20000

atiflash -s 1 slave.rom 20000

Try it, you cant mess anything up backing up just make sure the backed up files are 128k.

CN :)

Mumid
09-08-2008, 03:02 PM
Thanks for the bios T M. I edited it to 1.35 volts and made the fan ramp up a bit more under load. Running at 832/1000 stable no worries, thats about the limit for the GPU's, havnt tested if the mem can do more than 1000 yet.

RADCOM
09-08-2008, 03:46 PM
Thanks C-N, I'll wait until I have the EK block on the card as the fan is pretty terrifying.

r1rhyder
09-08-2008, 03:53 PM
hiya steven (wot you doing on here ;) ) i see you've got the bios now

works ok this 1000mhz on memory no artifacts , i think asus have loosened the timings as its not much quicker than 900 and odd , ati overdrive has 900 gpu core in as well


Hi Glen, eggcelent reading here on this forum. Get to hear from some world class overclockers like T_M, or is it Tim. CCC does seem to be the only thing that overclocks all four gpu's, but the 800 core limit was killing me. I hope someone comes up with a new toollib.dll for amdgpuclocktool soon. I'm just a little leery at the moment about flashing to 1000 mem because my cards were artifacting at 960. I don't want the hassle of flashing and then having to flash right back. Or bricking 900 dollars of hardware. I'm one of those guy's that won't return or rma a peice of hardware that I was responsible for frying. So I want to be sure about this first, probably wait a few more day's and see some more results. Those guy's are the reason we are locked out of the bios. :shakes:

T_M
09-08-2008, 05:25 PM
r1rhyder, if you flash the mem clocks to 1000 you should have no problem if the video card is not stable, because it will only be unstable under load which is not in DOS ;)
Do the flashing in small steps, and if you find that you cant even load windows at one point then i would not attempt 1000 because as you say that is approaching brick.

As for you comment about not being bothered..... try flashing like 100 times per night like i am currently :D

After flashing my mem higher than the cap, it works fine at 1020, but 1030 causes crash quite quickly in '03 GT1.

A tip for flashing: use BIOS file names that represent the clock speeds, and identify master from slave.
Remember that you will only be able to see 8 digits in DOS.
E.g. i use "82c103m0.rom" which tells me 820 core / 1030 mem / 0 = master

r1rhyder
09-08-2008, 06:00 PM
"try flashing like 100 times per night like i am currently"

I'm not that tenacious during the week. This Thursday, Friday, my weekend, I'll tear it up and find out what my cards can do. I do follow your tip strategy, works well for me.

Mumid
09-09-2008, 01:56 AM
Hi Glen, eggcelent reading here on this forum. Get to hear from some world class overclockers like T_M, or is it Tim. CCC does seem to be the only thing that overclocks all four gpu's, but the 800 core limit was killing me. I hope someone comes up with a new toollib.dll for amdgpuclocktool soon. I'm just a little leery at the moment about flashing to 1000 mem because my cards were artifacting at 960. I don't want the hassle of flashing and then having to flash right back. Or bricking 900 dollars of hardware. I'm one of those guy's that won't return or rma a peice of hardware that I was responsible for frying. So I want to be sure about this first, probably wait a few more day's and see some more results. Those guy's are the reason we are locked out of the bios. :shakes:

Why dont you try the original top bios at 795/915? Your card will defo handle that and then you can clock up in CCC as and when needed.

BulldogPO
09-09-2008, 03:19 AM
Does HD4870X handle 1.35V with std cooler?

T_M
09-09-2008, 07:30 AM
Do you mean 4870x2? Yes, easy.

SF3D
09-09-2008, 07:44 AM
I'm using 1.55V and 100% fan speed. It doesn't even get as hot as on stock fan speed and voltage :)

giraffen
09-09-2008, 08:01 AM
I'm using 1.55V and 100% fan speed. It doesn't even get as hot as on stock fan speed and voltage :)


1,55V, Do you edit that with Rbe?

T_M
09-09-2008, 08:08 AM
That would likely be hardmodded

M3kk
09-09-2008, 09:01 AM
Does HD4870X handle 1.35V with std cooler?


Do you mean 4870x2? Yes, easy.

Wait .. that 1.35 is doable without any hardmod, just bios?

SF3D
09-09-2008, 09:23 AM
That would likely be hardmodded

Yes. Hardmodded and voltage is adjusted by bios.

fornowagain
09-09-2008, 09:31 AM
But its only adjustable after the hardmod?

kowa1981
09-09-2008, 09:32 AM
with the asus top bios my cardfan runs @ 100% the first 2min and than the speed goes down.

have anyone a other and better bios for me?

i have the std. cooler.

fornowagain
09-09-2008, 09:43 AM
with the asus top bios my cardfan runs @ 100% the first 2min and than the speed goes down.

have anyone a other and better bios for me?

i have the std. cooler.

Why not change the profile settings?

kowa1981
09-09-2008, 09:51 AM
Why not change the profile settings?

i donīt know how?
rbe dosenīt work on my pc or iīm to stupid for that :-)
when i start rbe my explorer start again and than nothing.

how i can change my profile? tool?

r1rhyder
09-09-2008, 09:58 AM
Hard question, without voltmod what is the highest voltage I can set in bios with RBE? Tim? Anyone?

fornowagain
09-09-2008, 09:58 AM
i donīt know how?
rbe dosenīt work on my pc or iīm to stupid for that :-)
when i start rbe my explorer start again and than nothing.

how i can change my profile? tool?
Sorry, but you gotta have RBE working for that, Can't imagine why its not for you.

Stock Sapphire.
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/8305/93959133ol0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Asus TOP from T_M.
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/374/71664858zd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Hard question, without voltmod what is the highest voltage I can set in bios with RBE? Tim? Anyone?
From multimeter reading, I'm pretty sure it doesn't make any difference.

C-N
09-09-2008, 10:11 AM
Yes. Hardmodded and voltage is adjusted by bios.

Care to share the hard mod that we have to do to unlock the BIOS voltage adjustment?

kowa1981
09-09-2008, 10:13 AM
thx fornowagain
i have download it now from the nl mirro and now it works.

can you say me settings that i can run with stockcooler without probs

fornowagain
09-09-2008, 10:17 AM
thx fornowagain
i have download it now from the nl mirro and now it works.

can you say me settings that i can run with stockcooler without probs

Its going to depend on how much noise you can tolerate, anything over 50% was nuts to me. Settings I don't know I pretty much went straight to water.

BulldogPO
09-09-2008, 10:19 AM
Is 1.55V really available trough bios? No hard mods?

kowa1981
09-09-2008, 11:38 AM
Its going to depend on how much noise you can tolerate, anything over 50% was nuts to me. Settings I don't know I pretty much went straight to water.

iīm waiting for the watercool x2 heatkiller.
when i have it than i test more...

thx a lot!!!

aNNixP
09-09-2008, 02:37 PM
Does anyone know how to get over that 900MHz GPU ?
It seems to be a wall there right ?

Clocked with AMD GPU Clock in Vista64. It works fine but at any clock Speed above 900 Core immediately freeze in 3d Mode.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/900_10001es.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=900_10001es.jpg)

No Solutions yet ?

And can someone really 100% confirm that Vcore Changes with RBE are working ?

GLENBOY
09-09-2008, 02:54 PM
to be honest if you can run 900 core in any benchmark you've got a hell of a card not many can run over 860 even at 100% fan speed

fornowagain
09-09-2008, 03:07 PM
to be honest if you can run 900 core in any benchmark you've got a hell of a card not many can run over 860 even at 100% fan speed

Some pretty low temps there, kinda doubt thats on air.

GLENBOY
09-09-2008, 03:14 PM
ah right never noticed the temps still not many can run 900 in 3d bench with these

T_M
09-09-2008, 05:49 PM
The highest volts i could successfully set in BIOS was 1.35V.
At 1.36V my system would not load windows.

900 core on TOP bios can be broken only by uninstalling CCC, then it will work awesome.

STEvil
09-09-2008, 08:47 PM
Care to share the hard mod that we have to do to unlock the BIOS voltage adjustment?

Hardmod.

emertX
09-09-2008, 11:04 PM
Hi!

Several times I read, that you guys reached clocks about 860/1000. I get theses Clocks nearly, too, but not on both GPUs. How did you manage these clocks?
In CCC I only can run 800. Do I have to flash the Asus BIOS? Furthermore my Ram isn't able to run more than 950?! How did you manage this?

C-N
09-09-2008, 11:08 PM
Hardmod.

Huh

SF3D said he did a hard mod that allowed the voltage to be adjusted via BIOS i.e. not with a trimming pot, now either I have my wires crossed & have read to much into this or he has a hardmod we all don't know about hence I asked.

CN :)

emertX
09-09-2008, 11:38 PM
Is there also a pencil-mod possible at the card?

SF3D
09-09-2008, 11:50 PM
I will share the hard mod as soon as it is possible. It is under NDA now.
It is easy mod to use, cause no adjusting or trimming variable resistors anymore.

Sorry! I don't mean to tease you with it.

emertX
09-10-2008, 12:04 AM
What do you mean with it?
Is this a pencilmod or not?

C-N
09-10-2008, 12:25 AM
I will share the hard mod as soon as it is possible. It is under NDA now.
It is easy mod to use, cause no adjusting or trimming variable resistors anymore.

Sorry! I don't mean to tease you with it.

:up: thanks.

emertX
09-10-2008, 02:05 AM
Hi!

Several times I read, that you guys reached clocks about 860/1000. I get theses Clocks nearly, too, but not on both GPUs. How did you manage these clocks?
In CCC I only can run 800. Do I have to flash the Asus BIOS? Furthermore my Ram isn't able to run more than 950?! How did you manage this?

I Quote myself!

aNNixP
09-10-2008, 02:21 AM
Some pretty low temps there, kinda doubt thats on air.

Its with EK Waterblock and Waterchiller ;)

Water Temp ist 25°.

aNNixP
09-10-2008, 02:24 AM
I will share the hard mod as soon as it is possible. It is under NDA now.
It is easy mod to use, cause no adjusting or trimming variable resistors anymore.

Sorry! I don't mean to tease you with it.

:up:
Yeah nice, getting wet yet :D

T_M
09-10-2008, 02:27 AM
emertX, I suggest you actually read the thread - all the answers are there already (or elsewhere in the forum)

C-N
09-10-2008, 02:30 AM
Originally Posted by emertX
Hi!

Several times I read, that you guys reached clocks about 860/1000. I get theses Clocks nearly, too, but not on both GPUs. How did you manage these clocks?
In CCC I only can run 800. Do I have to flash the Asus BIOS? Furthermore my Ram isn't able to run more than 950?! How did you manage this?


I Quote myself!

Your answers are in this thread but I'll try to answer them again 4u

My & I'm sure quite a few others cores will run 800~860 but there is a difference between run & bench. My optimum core speed to bench & game is 830 any more than that & Vantage gets choppy & my scores go down.

I am sure just like CPU's there will be some poo cores & some blinding cores but at Ģ350/$600 or so per card most of us will have to make do with what we have.

Flash to the ASUS Top BIOS posted in this thread & the CCC core limit will be 900MHz.

My RAM would only run 950MHz until I flashed to the ASUS top BIOS & now it will run near 1100 although it artifacts above 1070 ish. I think the timings must be slackened off as the performance at 1050 is as far as I can tell the same as the original BIOS @ 950.

Hope this helps :)

emertX
09-10-2008, 02:58 AM
@C-N

Thanks a lot!!!
So the solution is to flash the Asus Bios and I can clock my card above the normal settings. Thanks again...

Sectorz
09-10-2008, 03:25 AM
Can we flahs that card with ATIWINflahs on windows ? If yes how we see what is the slave gpu and the master ? I see on WinFlahs 2 GPU and one 4870x2 (in use)

T_M
09-10-2008, 04:26 AM
use ATIFlash

Sectorz
09-10-2008, 04:29 AM
I never use this soft and he dosen't work on vista.I have error when I open it.It impossible with ATIWinflahs ?

emertX
09-10-2008, 04:46 AM
Take Atiflash to flash your card, if you want to be on the save side of life ;)

fornowagain
09-10-2008, 04:50 AM
I will share the hard mod as soon as it is possible. It is under NDA now.
It is easy mod to use, cause no adjusting or trimming variable resistors anymore.

Sorry! I don't mean to tease you with it.

Ohh, that sounds so good.


Its with EK Waterblock and Waterchiller ;)

Water Temp ist 25°.
Thought so, thought so, I have the EK block and I'm still a few degrees above that with a lot of radiator capacity.

Sectorz
09-10-2008, 05:11 AM
Take Atiflash to flash your card, if you want to be on the save side of life ;)

Yes, but how ? I cannot start it on vista.Can you tell to me how you do ?

paakkis
09-10-2008, 05:30 AM
You need to do it at DOS screen (http://paakkis.oc-papat.com/atiflash.jpg)

emertX
09-10-2008, 05:36 AM
Right. Where are you from? I've got a german explanation for this.

Sectorz
09-10-2008, 05:38 AM
Shi* not Dos :help: you have a link for a ''How to do'' ? and the command line for flahs 2 4870x2 ? What Dos version oyu se and where to download it ? sorry for all this question never flahsed on Dos :D


Right. Where are you from? I've got a german explanation for this.

I am front canada french or english only please :D

paakkis
09-10-2008, 05:48 AM
Nice guide 4 flashing, http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=11

r1rhyder
09-10-2008, 05:57 AM
"Yes, but how ? I cannot start it on vista.Can you tell to me how you do ?"

come on now, do a little reading about it. Google will make you smarter, and it's easy to query. I bet you can even do it in your native language.

Make dos boot disk, (1.44mb floppy) copy atiflash.exe to boot disk, copy T-M's bios .rom files to boot disk, boot from floppy, (this is where you kill your cards) flash command is} "atiflash -f -p 0 teamau-0.rom" for master gpu, "atiflash -f -p 1 teamau-1.rom" for the slave. WARNING, you do this at your own risk. No crying later. No RMA's. No refunds.

Sectorz
09-10-2008, 06:07 AM
Nice guide 4 flashing, http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=11

Ok I have do my usb Dos bootable :D

Now when I will be on the Dos systeme, what commande I use for flahs the first GPU the second the third and the last ?




Make dos boot disk, (1.44mb floppy) copy atiflash.exe to boot disk, copy T-M's bios .rom files to boot disk, boot from floppy, (this is where you kill your cards) flash command is} "atiflash -f -p 0 teamau-0.rom" for master gpu, "atiflash -f -p 1 teamau-1.rom" for the slave. WARNING, you do this at your own risk. No crying later. No RMA's. No refunds.

ok but how to know I will flahs the slave or the master with the commande you have donate ? I need to put one card only at same time ?

paakkis
09-10-2008, 06:12 AM
atiflash -f -p 0 bios.rom (master)
atiflash -f -p 1 bios.rom (slave)
atiflash -f -p 2 bios.rom (master)
atiflash -f -p 3 bios.rom (slave)

Sectorz
09-10-2008, 06:19 AM
Very thx guy, now before go to do this , wish me good luck :D and if for any reasons this fail, I can flahs back to the old bios dans do RMA after ?

Viss
09-10-2008, 06:22 AM
Flash 1 card to start with.

paakkis
09-10-2008, 06:23 AM
Sure you can, blind flash or take pci card and you see what are you doing ;) that RMA i dont say anything

emertX
09-10-2008, 06:29 AM
Good luck!

Sectorz
09-10-2008, 06:29 AM
Sure you can, blind flash or take pci card and you see what are you doing ;) that RMA i dont say anything

ok, but I not would void my warrantly, I not do extreme overclock and not plain to push card over is limit but just try this bios and use the soft by Asus.If I have some probleme or card come defect, I will be sure if I flahs back to the original bios, I will not have probleme with a RMA.


Good luck!

Thx :D

r1rhyder
09-10-2008, 06:42 AM
:horse:

Mumid
09-10-2008, 07:20 AM
My RAM would only run 950MHz until I flashed to the ASUS top BIOS & now it will run near 1100 although it artifacts above 1070 ish. I think the timings must be slackened off as the performance at 1050 is as far as I can tell the same as the original BIOS @ 950.

Hope this helps :)

The extra clocks on my ram from using this bios did give me a score increased in vantage right in line with 4870 CF clocked at the same speed so I wouldnt say that the ram timings have been loosened. Maybe your card is just getting bottlenecked so you dont see any gain from it. Having said that, extra memory bandwidth is hardly needed anyway so does not really increase fps in games by much at all.

C-N
09-10-2008, 08:07 AM
The extra clocks on my ram from using this bios did give me a score increased in vantage right in line with 4870 CF clocked at the same speed so I wouldnt say that the ram timings have been loosened. Maybe your card is just getting bottlenecked so you dont see any gain from it. Having said that, extra memory bandwidth is hardly needed anyway so does not really increase fps in games by much at all.

Its the only way I can explain being able to run the RAM at 1100MHz with no voltage increase when it used to artifact at 960~980 or so at idle.

There was a difference from 900 ~ 950 on the stock BIOS & I have seen what I think is a small increase on the TOP BIOS going from 950 ~ 1059 but to be honest its within the margin of error so I cant really claim it.

CN :)

T_M
09-10-2008, 08:34 AM
Use:

ATIFlash -i
(Shows the index of all current BIOS's on your cards, with a reference number such as 0,1,2,3 for CF 4870x2's)
Check to make sure that it mentions Master next to the 0 card, and slave next to the 1 card.

ATIFlash -f -p 0 TeamAU-0.rom (flash master of first card)
ATIFlash -f -p 1 TeamAU-1.rom (flash slave of first card)
ATIFlash -f -p 2 TeamAU-0.rom (flash master of second card)
ATIFlash -f -p 3 TeamAU-1.rom (flash slave of second card)

Regarding RAM timings, i too saw an increase in max RAM speed by flahsing to TOP.

Sectorz
09-10-2008, 09:12 AM
Thx T_M, I have send to you 2 PM, you have put all the good setting but not sure you have use the Asus Top bios.

giraffen
09-10-2008, 09:38 AM
What software do you guys use to massure the volt? I use Rivaturner and gpu-z and no matterīs what settigs i do in Rbe, Rivaturner/gpu-z still says 1,26V. Can someone tell me what i doing wrong

emertX
09-10-2008, 11:58 AM
I've vmodded my Asus-BIOS. Looking if my 1,35V are shown in GPU-Z? Just installing drivers!

F.stop
09-10-2008, 03:45 PM
:up: thanks for the guide and roms TM
flashed no problems :D running 822/1000 stable

T_M
09-10-2008, 04:08 PM
measure vcore with a digital multimeter.
Watch the volts while you run 3D also ;)

F.stop
09-10-2008, 07:47 PM
The highest volts i could successfully set in BIOS was 1.35V.
At 1.36V my system would not load windows.

900 core on TOP bios can be broken only by uninstalling CCC, then it will work awesome.


ehh:eek: 900 core
have you done this already.....
this statements been overlooked
please explain...

T_M
09-10-2008, 07:56 PM
No i have not yet run 900 core.
Im saying if you want to try, just uninstall CCC and then there will be no clock limit.

I will be trying very soon to run above 900 core ;)

F.stop
09-10-2008, 08:13 PM
ok, now i understand the earlier post
your thinking ccc just being there is stopping progression towards 900
and thats how no name got there.

emertX
09-10-2008, 10:13 PM
I've flashed back my original!
The Asus is terrible. The fan is so loud for the first two minutes...damn!
Furthermore, I was not able to get higher clocks with it at my stock-cooler, why? Just the Gpu was able to clock a little higher. But my ram still freezes at 960???

Any answer to my problem?

T_M
09-10-2008, 10:39 PM
Uninstalling CCC definately does avert the clock limit, its already confirmed

r1rhyder
09-11-2008, 07:08 AM
Uninstalling CCC definately does avert the clock limit, its already confirmed

Confirmed. The fans are annoying but the next release of RT will have support for the 4870x2 in crossfire-X.
Hell of a lot of heat being generated at 900/1000.

T_M
09-11-2008, 05:24 PM
I just found something interesting :D
Uninstall CCC, flash your BIOS's above the limit, then reinstall CCC.
My system is now happily running with CCC installed, just the overdrive function is disabled :)

r1rhyder
09-11-2008, 10:47 PM
I get overclocking in CCC no matter what I flash the bios's to. Strange.

F.stop
09-13-2008, 12:50 PM
been testing the cooling capacity of stock sink while oc and have to say under water this card could do alot more

fornowagain
09-16-2008, 06:10 PM
I will share the hard mod as soon as it is possible. It is under NDA now.
It is easy mod to use, cause no adjusting or trimming variable resistors anymore.

Sorry! I don't mean to tease you with it.
Any update on when the NDA runs out?

emertX
09-17-2008, 04:54 AM
Same question!

paakkis
09-19-2008, 05:54 AM
*Removed*

Riska
09-20-2008, 04:27 AM
Great but what do you do do you remove the resistors or what?

paakkis
09-20-2008, 04:35 AM
remove them and solder them back left side where they r now

SF3D
09-20-2008, 05:11 AM
remove them and solder them back left side where they r now

Can I ask one thing.. where did you got your bios files and the mod?

Riska
09-20-2008, 05:17 AM
Does it mean that the gpu1 gets 1.55v and the gpu2 gets 1.65v ??

paakkis
09-20-2008, 05:20 AM
No, 1.55v @ bios = 1.55v 3D and if u put 1.65v @ bios = 1.65v 3D and so on...

Riska
09-20-2008, 05:22 AM
Ok i thougth that it was to ad more volts

T_M
09-20-2008, 09:15 AM
Damn! I missed the mod.
SOmeone who saved it please PM me!

Gautam
09-20-2008, 09:23 AM
Does it even matter?

WoutZoR
09-20-2008, 01:33 PM
Damn! I missed the mod.
SOmeone who saved it please PM me!

PM'ed :up:

aka_titan
09-20-2008, 06:18 PM
No, 1.55v @ bios = 1.55v 3D and if u put 1.65v @ bios = 1.65v 3D and so on...

Can you still select less than 1.55v? say 1.35 or 1.4 etc.:D

giraffen
09-20-2008, 08:02 PM
Then iīm using Rbe and atiflach to raise voltage nothing happens. Highest voltage i get in 3d load is 1,28V measured with multimeter....
Yesterday i made the hardmod from Riska. Using 2 50ohms Vr, i get 1,31V in 3D load:up:

paakkis
09-21-2008, 03:31 AM
I still think that mod what Riska made is better and easier, that mod what i removed is under nda and looks like it will stay that way. Thats why i removed it.

Riska
09-21-2008, 04:30 AM
Ok but what software did u use to raise voltage in bios with?

Sagart
09-21-2008, 04:32 AM
Ok but what software did u use to raise voltage in bios with?

After you did the hardmod(for the biosmod to work) you can use RBE(Radeon Bios Editor) to change the voltage inside the bios, then flash the card(s) with ATiflash. :)

Riska
09-21-2008, 04:55 AM
ok but RBE will just let me set it to max 1.35v ?

GLENBOY
09-21-2008, 06:44 AM
I still think that mod what Riska made is better and easier, that mod what i removed is under nda and looks like it will stay that way. Thats why i removed it.


thats crazy how can a card mod be under nda its not like ati approve people modding their cards

T_M
09-21-2008, 09:23 PM
Yes i find it strange also, almost like it either doesnt work well or people want to keep it for themselves.
But knowing who is involved, im sure its not the later.

emertX
09-21-2008, 11:29 PM
Oh F...*
I also missed this MOD!
Can anyone PM me this one? Please T M send it to me.
I was waiting the hole time, but this weekend I wasn't able to look this site...

Viss
09-21-2008, 11:57 PM
thats crazy how can a card mod be under nda its not like ati approve people modding their cards

Mod by Ati? The guys from Finland have it...

T_M
09-22-2008, 12:35 AM
Please guys stop PM'ing me to pass on the mod.
Ask the source.

emertX
09-22-2008, 01:29 AM
OK, sorry for that!

T_M
09-22-2008, 01:43 AM
No worries, its juts filling up my inbox

emertX
09-22-2008, 02:43 AM
Sad that nobody send me this mod...
:shrug:

Maybe here's anybody who has got a warm heart...;)

Sagart
09-22-2008, 05:13 AM
Have you tried the mod, Tim? :)

Riska
09-22-2008, 07:56 AM
http://www.octeamdenmark.com/forums/showthread.php?p=26143#post26143

Here is the mod made by me with Paakkis pics

Sectorz
09-22-2008, 12:00 PM
Riska, I not sure but this is not the mods , you need to solder the resistance to a anothers place not just remove it ?

No news for the memory voltmod ?

Riska
09-22-2008, 12:05 PM
Look at the pics i am pointing to the solderpads you have to move them to!
And read the text on the pics

aka_titan
09-22-2008, 12:22 PM
Look at the pics i am pointing to the solderpads you have to move them to!
And read the text on the pics

Can anyone confirm this mod works? i dont want to risk unsoldering/resoldering resistors without knowing that its gonna work. won't the heat from an iron damage the resistors?

Riska
09-22-2008, 01:09 PM
Not if the iron isent to hot aka 65watt go for 15-30watt iron

emertX
09-25-2008, 04:02 AM
Has anybody already switched the sideport on the card?

Riska
09-25-2008, 05:57 AM
What do you mean "the sideport" ?

Sagart
09-25-2008, 07:16 AM
I think he means the direct connection between the GPUs(without the PCIe-bridge), as referred to by AMD/ATi as Sideport.
This feature is currently disabled AFAIK, but maybe someone know how to enable it?

Riska
09-25-2008, 07:27 AM
What will you gain to enable it?

Sagart
09-25-2008, 08:36 AM
Bandwith, and hopefully some performance. The data that are normally transferred through the PCIe-switch(the one between the GPUs), can be transferred directly between the GPUs, without going through the switch(that means higher datatransfer-speed). ;)

Some said ATi won't enable it, but we'll just have to wait and see. :)

emertX
09-25-2008, 10:29 PM
Others said, that Ati is going to reserve this feature until the next Geforce generation.
It will bring the card up to 40% more performance...

All you guys have got a switch on the card, near the crossfirebridge. Did you switch it already?

Riska
09-26-2008, 06:48 AM
The switch is for pal/ntsc for the video mode

emertX
09-26-2008, 08:07 AM
Sure?

Riska
09-26-2008, 08:17 AM
yes i am sure the same was on the 3870x2

Hazzan
09-29-2008, 01:50 AM
any body still looking bios HD 4870X2 TOP ? Default Core 790 / 915

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3356/hd4870x2topbg1.jpg

GPU 1 : http://rapidshare.com/files/149329073/R700.bin
GPU 2 : http://rapidshare.com/files/149329945/R700.bin

malik22
09-30-2008, 02:01 PM
any body still looking bios HD 4870X2 TOP ? Default Core 790 / 915

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3356/hd4870x2topbg1.jpg

GPU 1 : http://rapidshare.com/files/149329073/R700.bin
GPU 2 : http://rapidshare.com/files/149329945/R700.bin




Thx man what fanspeed is the top bios set at? and what program should I use to artifact test my card at 790 915 before I flash im on vista 64.

road-runner
10-05-2008, 06:25 PM
Will these work on sapphire cards?

ViRuS2k
10-07-2008, 04:19 AM
i would also like to know if this asus bios works on the sapphire 4870x2 cards

are sapphire the only branded 4780x2 cards that have hynix gddr5 ? or are they all refrence to that asus bios.

emertX
10-08-2008, 06:53 AM
It works on Sapphire Cards

shaithis
10-10-2008, 08:19 AM
The switch is for pal/ntsc for the video mode

There are 2 switches, I beleive one of them forces a different PCI-Express mode. You can get the cards half-working in X38 boards with incompatible BIOSes by toggling one of those switches.

Hazzan
10-11-2008, 01:17 AM
I think ASUS TOP still reverence I dint see anything different ASUS HD 4870X2 TOP with ASUS HD 4870X2....

road-runner
10-12-2008, 08:06 PM
I can flash both my cards and they will both work with these bios? I remember doing 2 2900s and after I flashed them windows would only see one card, I found some different bios and flashed one card so they both would not be exactly the same and then windows showed 2 cards...

menko2
10-14-2008, 12:33 PM
i just put the TOP BIOS with success....it was the first time. i also added the 1.35v.

i can get the GPU at 845mhz with no pro; i will keep like this but it looks i can push a little more maybe.
im playing oblivion at 1920x1080 and AA 4Xedge-detect and the frame-rates are the same with 800 and 845mhz core...... maybe cpu bottleneck?? but i have a E8600 at 4,285ghz..... dont know.

the problem is the memories.... before i could get 965mhz maximum and then artifacts. now 1000mhz its ok, but i cant push it more because of CCC.

is there any way to overclock the memories apart from trying and flashing it in diferent BIOS?? once i know the right value i can flash it.

thank you!

emertX
10-14-2008, 11:24 PM
Take the Rivatuner 2.11

menko2
10-14-2008, 11:39 PM
thank you.

i just actually flashed the bios to 1050mhz.

in GPU-Z shows in the first screen 1050mhz but in the sensors shows only 1000mhz. in rivatuner the same, shows memories at 1000mhz.

did i miss a step for memories in the RBE?? i put in the clocks 10, 11 and 12 800mhz and 1050mhz.... or maybe riva and gpu-z doesnt show the frequency properly??

menko2
10-15-2008, 11:15 PM
no help here?? please...

Martin.v.r
10-15-2008, 11:34 PM
edit the Signature ?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/showthread.php?t=175531&page=4

Hazzan
10-16-2008, 01:58 PM
I succses with flash from asus HD 4870X2 to HD 4870X2 TOP....now my VGA Core 790 Memory 915

road-runner
10-19-2008, 08:47 PM
I successfully flashed both of my cards with the Asus bios 800/1000, I can run 845/100 any higher and it artifacts or freezes.... :up:

T_M
10-19-2008, 09:43 PM
thank you.

i just actually flashed the bios to 1050mhz.

in GPU-Z shows in the first screen 1050mhz but in the sensors shows only 1000mhz. in rivatuner the same, shows memories at 1000mhz.

did i miss a step for memories in the RBE?? i put in the clocks 10, 11 and 12 800mhz and 1050mhz.... or maybe riva and gpu-z doesnt show the frequency properly??

put the desired clocks into all BIOS settings, not just 10,11,12 ;)

l!kw!dskw!d
10-25-2008, 12:51 AM
are sapphire the only branded 4780x2 cards that have hynix gddr5 ? or are they all refrence to that asus bios.

... my MSI R4870x2-OC (780/900 stock) has Hynix, too.

But I didn't yet dare to force-flash it with the TOP bios, would it work on this card?

fornowagain
10-25-2008, 09:59 AM
Don't see why not. Have a emergency backup flash in case its not. I don't think you'll need it though.

Codeman05
10-25-2008, 01:45 PM
Guys, Just flashed with the TeamAU bioses on Post 32.
Vgpu is still 1.26 despite adjusting the ROMS to 1.35v.

Is the hardmod required?
I read all the way through but saw some conflicting info.


On the upside, I'm now stable at 825x1000 in any event. Was unable to surpass 960 on the mem prior

giorgos th.
10-26-2008, 04:03 AM
Sapphire card is ok with the TOP bios here...
with another Asus one,i`m trying to adjust clocks...840/950 till now easily...
so if i give to all 10,11,12 clocks in RBE the desired clocks,they will be the 3D ones?

BPBastos
11-05-2008, 01:16 PM
Hi Guys,
I flash the asus top bios in my powercolor 4870x2 using the team-au bios file and information from the previous post and everything seemed okay.
The driver installs but after reboot it does not recognize the vga.
I tried to installs differents drivers but no one worked.
Anyone know what that problem?

Thanks and sorry for my bad english

NBF
11-05-2008, 01:40 PM
Hi Guys,
I flash the asus top bios in my powercolor 4870x2 using the team-au bios file and information from the previous post and everything seemed okay.
The driver installs but after reboot it does not recognize the vga.
I tried to installs differents drivers but no one worked.
Anyone know what that problem?

Thanks and sorry for my bad english

Does your Powercolor have Hynix memory? It probably won't work with Qimonda.


You are welcome and excused for your bad english :rofl:

BPBastos
11-05-2008, 02:23 PM
Does your Powercolor have Hynix memory? It probably won't work with Qimonda.


You are welcome and excused for your bad english :rofl:

Good to see you here NBF! :)

I'll verify the memory chips, probaly is that.

Thanks!

STEvil
11-05-2008, 04:22 PM
Hi Guys,
I flash the asus top bios in my powercolor 4870x2 using the team-au bios file and information from the previous post and everything seemed okay.
The driver installs but after reboot it does not recognize the vga.
I tried to installs differents drivers but no one worked.
Anyone know what that problem?

Thanks and sorry for my bad english

Could be the voltage settings if they have been modified above stock.

BPBastos
11-06-2008, 06:07 AM
Could be the voltage settings if they have been modified above stock.

But I just download the TeamAU bios file and flashed it, I do not made any voltage modifications in the bios file.

I still not check the memory chip, is a pain in the ass remove the water block :P

C-N
11-06-2008, 06:20 AM
But I just download the TeamAU bios file and flashed it, I do not made any voltage modifications in the bios file.

I still not check the memory chip, is a pain in the ass remove the water block :P

Are you sure you flashed them to the correct cores, they are different than the 3870x2.

BNDMOD
11-06-2008, 06:39 AM
Mine can run this


http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7563/p5q3dl4870x22gbddr31600nw8.jpg


Test Setup:

MOTHERBOARD: P5Q3 Deluxe @ 1406
CPU: E8600 @ Q820A324
RAM: 2x1GB DDR3-1600 Gskill CL7 F3-12800CL7-1GBHZ
VGA: HD 4870x2 Asus Top Bios @ 790-915
PSU: Zalman 750 Watts Single Rail

Test Pics:

FUTUREMARK 3DMARK 2003

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7981/86351420x10ddr316807771pi6.jpg
Link de HWBOT: http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=789399

FUTUREMARK 3DMARK 2005

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4905/28052420x10ddr316807771sm9.jpg
Link de HWBOT: http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=789399 (http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=789399)

FUTUREMARK 3DMARK 2006

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5107/20757420x10ddr316807771lg0.jpg
Link de HWBOT: http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=789664


Note:

FutureMark 3DMark 01-03-05 a 850-1000
FutureMark 3DMark 06 a 830-1000

BPBastos
11-06-2008, 06:49 AM
Are you sure you flashed them to the correct cores, they are different than the 3870x2.

I used theses commands:

atiflash -p -f 0 teamau-0.rom master
atiflash -p -f 1 teamau-1.rom slave

Is that right?

cirthix
11-08-2008, 02:27 AM
I used theses commands:

atiflash -p -f 0 teamau-0.rom master
atiflash -p -f 1 teamau-1.rom slave

Is that right?

Not sure about the 4870x2, but on the 3870x2, the master is 1 and the slave is 0. You may want to double check that.

Sagart
11-09-2008, 01:07 AM
I used theses commands:

atiflash -p -f 0 teamau-0.rom master
atiflash -p -f 1 teamau-1.rom slave

Is that right?

Yes, that is correct. :)

sail-fish
11-11-2008, 06:36 AM
Would it consider brick after flash the bios with no post screen but run flawlessly on Windows driver.
If no how do i can recover the card.
If yes can i still use it as crossfire since it no problem to run under windows.


Thanks

C-N
11-11-2008, 09:26 AM
Would it consider brick after flash the bios with no post screen but run flawlessly on Windows driver.
If no how do i can recover the card.
If yes can i still use it as crossfire since it no problem to run under windows.


Thanks

Don't understand the problem but if your card wont display you could blind flash or even better use a PCI card to see what you are doing & re flash the 4870x2.

Avid6eek
11-11-2008, 11:44 AM
Not sure about the 4870x2, but on the 3870x2, the master is 1 and the slave is 0. You may want to double check that.You're right cirthix. I just spent a couple hours troubleshooting what I thought was a bricked Asus 4870x2 (hynix). The commands should be:

atiflash -p -f 1 teamau-0.rom
atiflash -p -f 0 teamau-1.rom

sail-fish...use the commands I just posted and it will correct the problem you are experiencing.

Avid6eek
11-11-2008, 12:19 PM
While the Asus TOP bios do allow you to clock your memory higher, it must be as a result of looser memory timings.

Prior to Flash - 830/1025 (4.1Ghz)
After Flash - 830/1125 (4.5Ghz)

While that 4.5Ghz GDDR5 speed sure looks impressive, it doesn't really perform all that different than the 4.1Ghz prior to the flash. :shrug:

mattkosem
11-11-2008, 04:09 PM
I'm going to install a FC waterblock on my visiontek card later this week. Is this bios compatible with visiontek? Also, just to make sure that 1000mhz mem is okay on my card, is it safe to flash one bios, reboot, check windows, then flash the other?

--Matt

road-runner
11-11-2008, 04:18 PM
I used theses commands:

atiflash -p -f 0 teamau-0.rom master
atiflash -p -f 1 teamau-1.rom slave

Is that right?

That is what I used on my 4870x2s... :up:

mattkosem
11-11-2008, 08:23 PM
I'm going to install a FC waterblock on my visiontek card later this week. Is this bios compatible with visiontek? Also, just to make sure that 1000mhz mem is okay on my card, is it safe to flash one bios, reboot, check windows, then flash the other?

--Matt

Works great on the visiontek card. I did it this way:

atiflash -p -f 0 teamau-0.rom
atiflash -p -f 1 teamau-1.rom

--Matt

l!kw!dskw!d
11-14-2008, 02:02 PM
Ok, so I flashed my MSI 4870x2 OC (stock 780/900) with the Asus TOP bios, but even though the MSI card does have Hynix memory it was NOT recognized correctly by both Catalyst 8.10 and 8.11 (complete clean install w/ driver cleaner, safemode and blahblah) showed 2 x "2845MB Hypermemory" and not 2 x 1024 MB GDDR5 like the stock bios.
And while a short test with COD5 seemed to run fine, 3dmark vantage resulted in a flickering total mess. So I flashed back the original bioses "enhanced" with just the TOP signature. Since then one core seems to be stuck permanently @ 789Mhz, and AMD gpu clock tool won't work anymore.
Any idea why it won't work out on my card? It still does overclock fine with overdrive, but not beyond 830/950... which of course sucks :P
Next thing I'm gonna try is shooting up the MSI bios with the diamond viper signature and see what happens.
(temps are fine btw, cooling is by EK, so I am pretty disappointed so far... framerates go up and down like a rollercoaster with 3dmark, but I can play Fallout3, COD5, FC2 etc. pretty smooth @ 2560x1600 ... but I want this :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to go faster, dammit lol)

l!kw!dskw!d
11-15-2008, 02:15 PM
update: I took the TEAM-AU roms, filled both with clock settings of 800/975/1.3v except the three "thermal" positions, injected master and slave with the ma. and sl. signatures from the diamond viper bios, disabled "overdrive" in CCC, also disabled ataptive AA, set Catalyst AI back to "standard" (<= advanced seems to cause problems with crossfire), force-flashed both mutants once more, et voila: everything's running fine now, FC2, FALLOUT3, 3dMv, COD5 etc. ^^
CCC still shows "hypermemory", but both GPUZ and Everest recognize card and vram correctly, but whatever, meh...

Schtuzer
11-19-2008, 03:27 AM
Thanx all for posting here. Yesterday I flashed my Gainward card with Asus TOP bios - first time flashing bios with videocards :)

Works ok, problems of different cores working on different speeds in 3D has been solved to a large extent (not totally however). Since my PC runs GPU folding client while not gaming, I would like to flash 3D speed in 2D mode so that GPU client works with full efficiency (strange enough, starting GPU client does not automatically increase card speed to 3D). Where I should put 3D speed - red and blue on pics below? Anything else I should know?

http://www.postimage.org/Pq1nPQyi.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1nPQyi)

http://www.postimage.org/aV1bv4t9.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1bv4t9)

As a side effect, I hope, it will solve the rest of problems of one core not increasing the speed in 3D which results in crashing or shuttering since crossfire is not working right.

What shall be chnaged here?
http://www.postimage.org/aV1bverJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1bverJ)

giorgos th.
11-19-2008, 03:32 AM
Dont change anything in the hash table.

M.I.K.E.Y
11-19-2008, 10:32 AM
WHAT DO I WRONG ???

So i made a bootable floppy , i put all atiflash349 files on the floppy + the two bios files from TeamAU.i boot from floppy and use cmnd :
atiflash -p -f 0 teamau-0.rom and pres enter..................
ERROR no adaptor found !!!!!
I tried like 100 difrent cmnd's but nothing seem to work :-(
i always get errors !!!!
I am almost about giving up, last hope here S.O.S. :-(

Greetzzz Mikey

TheKarmakazi
11-20-2008, 11:02 PM
worked great for me. big ups to Tim for sharing, thanks bro! :up:

mattkosem
11-22-2008, 09:43 AM
update: I took the TEAM-AU roms, filled both with clock settings of 800/975/1.3v except the three "thermal" positions, injected master and slave with the ma. and sl. signatures from the diamond viper bios, disabled "overdrive" in CCC, also disabled ataptive AA, set Catalyst AI back to "standard" (<= advanced seems to cause problems with crossfire), force-flashed both mutants once more, et voila: everything's running fine now, FC2, FALLOUT3, 3dMv, COD5 etc. ^^
CCC still shows "hypermemory", but both GPUZ and Everest recognize card and vram correctly, but whatever, meh...

Does setting the vGPU to 1.3v in the bios work without having to do anything else?

--Matt

oMek
11-23-2008, 05:24 PM
hmm i flashed my Visiontek 4870x2 with the stock TOP, and the teamAU bios... both give me artifacts at bootup and in windows...

do you think my card cant take the TOP bios? or they are just clocked too high?

mattkosem
11-26-2008, 05:15 AM
The TOP bios really shouldn't be too high. It's only a very mild OC, and seems to relax memory timings anyways. What are your GPU temps? Ambient?

--Matt

JoOs7eR
11-26-2008, 05:43 AM
Thanks for the TOP Bios... Using HIS 4870X2 No Problems so far

oMek
11-26-2008, 05:07 PM
The TOP bios really shouldn't be too high. It's only a very mild OC, and seems to relax memory timings anyways. What are your GPU temps? Ambient?

--Matt

what brand memory does the TOP have? i think mine is diffrent.

mattkosem
11-26-2008, 07:10 PM
what brand memory does the TOP have? i think mine is diffrent.

Got me. I'm running the Asus TOP bios on my Visiontek card without any issues though. I'd think you probably have the same brand of chips that I do... What clocks are you able to run with the stock bios? I was able to run around 930 or 940 before I'd see artifacts on mine. When running the stock cooler and TOP bios, I was running 975 on the memory with the stock cooler and Asus fan profile.

--Matt

M.I.K.E.Y
11-28-2008, 10:38 AM
WHAT DO I WRONG ???

So i made a bootable floppy , i put all atiflash349 files on the floppy + the two bios files from TeamAU.i boot from floppy and use cmnd :
atiflash -p -f 0 teamau-0.rom and pres enter..................
ERROR no adaptor found !!!!!
I tried like 100 difrent cmnd's but nothing seem to work :-(
i always get errors !!!!
I am almost about giving up, last hope here S.O.S. :-(

Greetzzz Mikey

Ok so i found the problem :) i had to use atiflash 3.60 because 3.42 dit not reconize the chip :rofl:

But now after flashing wit the teamau bios and reboot i had a error message that one of the gpu chips had to be disabbeld to prevent damage ??
wtf ?
maybe i just have to take my original biosses (GAINWARD btw) and mod them wit RBE and flash them wit these settings?
annybody somme info for me plz ??
greetzzz :up:

BulldogPO
11-30-2008, 01:33 PM
I have been playing aroun with thia HD4870X2 again.
So what is my problem with clocks here:
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=3172999.jpg

STEvil
11-30-2008, 02:40 PM
You're on the desktop at idle.

edit - also you have to set the clock speeds of each GPU in CCC (click the drop-down box).

BulldogPO
11-30-2008, 09:06 PM
Even Ati Toolīs furry cube does not rise those clocks.

eva2000
12-01-2008, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the TOP Bios... Using HIS 4870X2 No Problems so far
same here no probs with HIS HD4870x2 and Gigabyte HD4870x2 http://i4memory.com/f18/hd4870x2-crossfire-bios-flashed-asus-hd4870x2-top-bios-11471/ :)

oMek
12-01-2008, 04:36 PM
I have been playing aroun with thia HD4870X2 again.
So what is my problem with clocks here:
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=3172999.jpg

i had this problem also, even with bios changed. use rivatuner to OC, it will keep them in 3d mode at all times.

giorgos th.
12-03-2008, 01:27 PM
anyone having problems raising the clocks through CCC or bios flash?
Vgpu modded Asus (TOP bios) the clocks seems stuck....
850/1000 in Vantage xx fps......880/1000 (CCC - bios) in Vantage exact same fps as 850/1000...

mattkosem
12-03-2008, 05:36 PM
anyone having problems raising the clocks through CCC or bios flash?
Vgpu modded Asus (TOP bios) the clocks seems stuck....
850/1000 in Vantage xx fps......880/1000 (CCC - bios) in Vantage exact same fps as 850/1000...

I had issues with my OC settings kicking in at one point. I disabled overdrive, hit apply, then re-enabled overdrive. Twas all good after that.

--Matt

Fitseries3
12-12-2008, 08:13 PM
i have both my cards flashed to the asus top bios and i cant stand the noise of the fan running at 100% until i get into windows. anyone know how to fix it? i have looked at the bios in a few editors and there is nothing other than fan profiles.... none of which seem to fix the boot fan speed.

Thule
12-20-2008, 07:05 AM
hey guys after flashing asus top bios I got an error as " Incompatible display adapter has been diasbled".
Please look at the GPU clock and memory.I tried to reinstall driver again and nothing happens..I have powercolor hd4870 x2..please help me :(

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8366/28847891og4.jpg

Thule
12-20-2008, 10:51 AM
I think I found the solution..the catalyst 8.12 makes the error.when I install the catalyst 8.11 the problem is gone and bios is working perfect...