Modded ASUS P5Q/Pro/Deluxe/Premium BIOS

[waynetu]

Thanks :cool: can you post a link that will let people browse the server your original links lead to? I cant seem to get on it to have a nose around

free user and wait 30 seconds, you then can see the nose...:shocked:

[truehighroller]

A vid may help, worth posting one up :up: as a side note your not trying to run in AHCI mode are you? Windows will BSOD and crash if the driver isnt installed first. Lets hope Asus work like nuts and break into the 16xx BIOS revs for the P5Q series soon. I estimated to myself originally it would take about that for a solid BIOS, an I'll stick with it for now.

Nope and it never actually gives me a Blue Screen of Death. It is just like it starts to load the os to the login screen and swoop it stops mid swing. I will post a vid. I am just so tired of sitting on 0803 that's all.

[Ket]

Well, we knew it would only be a matter of time, I now have 1307 and 1402 beta BIOSes and will be making my own changes and uploading them when done.

@ wongnog; you wont "see" any changes, with the exception of the boot logo all other changes are internal.

[Ket]

Nope and it never actually gives me a Blue Screen of Death. It is just like it starts to load the os to the login screen and swoop it stops mid swing. I will post a vid. I am just so tired of sitting on 0803 that's all.

Sorry to be a PITA but can you make a post with like a bulletpoint style of the issues you have with any other BIOS apart from 0803? I may be able to specifically custom taylor the latest BIOS for you :up:

[truehighroller]

* Hard drives stop working right before Vista login screen after revision 0803. :shrug: That's it,

I will post the videos today actually because I get off work half day today so, I will be going home around 11:30am my time it is 9:42am right now here. I have noticed that on some occasions I will actually get into Vista but then it locks up at some point whenever it feels like it. I was wondering if it had to do something with my VFSB but, I set it to 1.22 last night with that 1402 or 06 whatever it is and same thing right before Login screen loads, boom it stops talking with the hard drives. I will make the video(s) me using each BIOS after 0803. I can actually see it stop hitting the hard drives VIA my HD Light. Thank you and not a PITA trust me. You are more helpful then their support "Asus".

[Ket]

That is really weird, but I know exactly what your talking about my system has started doing things very similar, especially noticable in the 1306 BIOS, I'll probably give my modded 1307 a shot, and if that sucks as well I'll make the changes to 1004 and go with that.

[Ket]

Here are the new mBIOS builds. Once PMP gets back to me with the changes made by Asus the readme files will be updated to include than info as well.

P5Q mBIOS 1307 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U2OYHEVX)
P5Q Pro mBIOS 1307 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3I5ZH1ZS)
P5Q-E mBIOS 1402 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6596IOL0)
P5Q Dlx mBIOS 1402 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OY4PCUB7)
P5Q Premium mBIOS 1401 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EA3WFY0J)

[BeastNotro]

So ket these new Modded versions for example: 1402 for PQ5 Dlx is all that you have done is added the premium memory tables?

Also from what Martin has posted is that the 1306 (official i think he is using) he can OC higher by about 60FSB then on the 1402 bios and i am curious as to why that would be from bios to bios?

[Brama]

As I said earlier in the thread, I'm only doing P5Q series BIOS mods atm, I don't have time to mod all sorts of BIOS code,

Thank you for your kindness.........I understand why you have to spend a lot of money to get and keep girls :rofl:

[Ket]

Not just a memory table replacement, also a custom P6 table, a pretty boot logo :p: and if anyone has more success on an older BIOS I will change the SMBIOS so people have Windows 7 compatibility. (or its something like that anyway, cant remember exactly what asus have changed in the SMBIOS in new versions)

[truehighroller]

That is really weird, but I know exactly what your talking about my system has started doing things very similar, especially noticable in the 1306 BIOS, I'll probably give my modded 1307 a shot, and if that sucks as well I'll make the changes to 1004 and go with that.

It is very odd, wait till you see the video. They changed something in the new BIOS don't know what but my shiznit doesn't like it.

[Ket]

Alright, I'll start looking at 803 and see if I can see the changes asus made.

[wongnog]

@ wongnog; you wont "see" any changes, with the exception of the boot logo all other changes are internal.

Thanks Ket. If I'm not mistaken, basically there is no more boot logo right? I noticed when I did a clear CMOS that the standard detailed bios screen was shown instead of the ASUS logo screen.

[Ket]

I have changed the boot logo not removed it. Your the second person to say its gone entirely, not sure how thats come about :shrug:

You should see a boot logo like this;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/bizket/dragonp5q-e.jpg

[wongnog]

Ket: That's strange, I am 100% certain I never saw a logo such as that! I have the P5Q-E on M1306 btw. I actually don't mind, I hate seeing a logo instead of my all import BIOS post info

[Dee]

I never saw a different logo either. m1306. When I flashed to these, I got no boot logo on startup, it just displayed the POST messages. That's OK because I disable the logo anyway.

[Ket]

Maybe the asus mylogo thing just doesn't like working with other BIOS files on a diff board? I'm lazy with the boot logos so just do it with the asus mylogo app.

[Dee]

You might be right. It's all good mate, no worries.

[ThugsRook]

the boot logo works fine here.

i think some ppl arent clearing their cmos after flash. at the very least they should be resetting "system defaults" from bios.

[Dee]

I did both.

[Ket]

Thats very odd then how the logo works with some and not on others systems :confused:

[truehighroller]

Ket or any one where is a good place to move these videos to youtube is taking forever,, just to load one video.. I finally got them cut down to 11videos to make them smaller , that took all day just to figure out..

[Toysoldier]

Ket or any one where is a good place to move these videos to youtube is taking forever,, just to load one video.. I finally got them cut down to 11videos to make them smaller , that took all day just to figure out..

How big are they ?

There is a chance I can host them on my server if they aren't to big.

[truehighroller]

How big are they ?

There is a chance I can host them on my server if they aren't to big.


All together 1.7Gb roughly. About 167Mbs a piece. You tube sucks at uploading bad.. I am just trying to do one file at a time here not all at once or anything.

Edit: I did rar the main one and it was 1gb.

[wongnog]

i think some ppl arent clearing their cmos after flash. at the very least they should be resetting "system defaults" from bios.

At first I didn't have to clear CMOS, but when I tried to lower FSB the system hung, so I had to clear CMOS and then I was able to do everything including the lower FSB.

[truehighroller]

Yah I think it depends on what you are doing/ going to exc. After 1103 the boot block doesn't change so I don't even waste my time after that one. I have before so I know it isn't going to solve my issue.

[Toysoldier]

All together 1.7Gb roughly. About 167Mbs a piece. You tube sucks at uploading bad.. I am just trying to do one file at a time here not all at once or anything.

Edit: I did rar the main one and it was 1gb.

I have sent you a PM

[truehighroller]

I have sent you a PM

I sent you a couple. I am going to sleep now and thanks.

[Dee]

How much is 1 notch?

EDIT: Flashed to m1402

[wongnog]

P5Q-E 1402 mBios running fine here. I confirm that 1 notch (although not 2) lower vCore in bios works the same for me after the update. It's probably from better vDrop/vDroop, but I didn't check the actual values.

Same here, P5Q-E with m1402 and very happy. I was Intel Burn Test stable for 20 runs in m1306 but Prime95 surprisingly failed after a couple minutes. m1402 tho is rock stable, might even be 1-2°C lower temps too if that is at all possible.

[Dee]

I guess it's possible if it's using less voltage.

[Ket]

All together 1.7Gb roughly. About 167Mbs a piece. You tube sucks at uploading bad.. I am just trying to do one file at a time here not all at once or anything.

Edit: I did rar the main one and it was 1gb.

Download kates video converter ;) you will be able to turn that nasty 1.7GB avi movie into about 200MB mpg :)

[truehighroller]

Download kates video converter ;) you will be able to turn that nasty 1.7GB avi movie into about 200MB mpg :)

Thank you. I like that prgram. I am uploading the smaller one now and will message you with the login info for downloading it when it is done.

[BeastNotro]

Ket

This program seems to be what i was looking for as well for movies..... Kate's Video Converter 4.0.15 ... awesome and that is the latest version too.

[Dee]

0.00625v. But tbh I don't think the end result is any different from 1306m: the lower bios_vCore compensates for the vDroop improvement, and I get the same final load vCore. 1402m didn't really help or hurt for me.

OK, thanks. I noticed certain improvements (small ones) in the 1402's. When I loaded up Easy Flash I could browse through my HDD's now, also when the BIOS is finalising a flash there's a green progress bar. I saw this because I flashed to 1306 and back to 1402 again. :)

[truehighroller]

I sent you the info via pm Ket. If any one else wants to see my issue in action just ask and I will pm you as well.

[hema]

P5Q with 1307 mbios
very stable version
I love the new logo design
the modded version solve the original beta version mobo logo prob. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3276053&postcount=8)
so thanks ket

[truehighroller]

Hope he is ok he hasn't messeged me back or anything yet.

[Dee]

LLC disabled is horrible for me. I set it to 1.39 and it dropped to 1.35 under full load.

[ReverendMaynard]

Leeg and Rev: it might be my imagination, but P5Q-E LLC is now stable for me with bios 1402m... actually, even more so than without LLC, at the same vdrooped load voltages :shrug:

If someone can confirm, I'd like to volunteer these:

:):):):):):):):):):):):):)

I'll flash when I get home tonight and let you know. Thanks for the heads up.:up:

[ReverendMaynard]

LLC disabled is horrible for me. I set it to 1.39 and it dropped to 1.35 under full load.

That's horrible? lol.

I set mine to 1.5v and get 1.416v load.

[ReverendMaynard]

And really, as long as you can compensate for vDrop without stability being affected, it's no big deal. But with the P5Q-E, I'm finding that there's more to LLC/Non-LLC than the final load vCore...

It'd be cool if I didn't have to set my vcore at 1.5v in the bios to achieve 1.440 idle. that's my only complaint about having LLC disabled. The .024v droop isn't all that bad :)

[psychok9]

Here are the new mBIOS builds. Once PMP gets back to me with the changes made by Asus the readme files will be updated to include than info as well.
P5Q Dlx mBIOS 1402 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OY4PCUB7)

Sorry, what's custom P6 table?
What's the difference between the PMP's modded bios and yours?
Thank you very much for your work :clap:.

[Ket]

No need to worry highroller ;) just been completing some lil upgrades to my system and ordering some new memory with micron d9s :D

[Dee]

That's horrible? lol.

I set mine to 1.5v and get 1.416v load.

Why post a "LOL"?

[Ket]

Hes laughing at how bad his vdroop is. After all, some bad things you can only laugh at to stop yaself from crying :p:

You should really ramp up your vdimm as well to say 2.1v and see how far those ballistix will go ;)

[truehighroller]

Just pmed tell me if that linky works.

Edit: I just tried it myself and it works that way nicely.

[ReverendMaynard]

Why post a "LOL"?

Just trying to make light of the situation. :)


Hes laughing at how bad his vdroop is. After all, some bad things you can only laugh at to stop yaself from crying :p:

Well now, I don't think I'd cry over some bad hardware lol, we all know it's like rollin' dice ;)

[Dee]

Hes laughing at how bad his vdroop is. After all, some bad things you can only laugh at to stop yaself from crying :p:

You should really ramp up your vdimm as well to say 2.1v and see how far those ballistix will go ;)

I'm not sure. Having had too many kits of Ballistix die in the past (4 or 5 kits in the last 4 years) I'm slightly cautious about that. They are doing as well as they can without putting them on the next setting which is something like 1154. At this current speed (1040) they're probably close to being maxed out. By the way, these are the "crappy" single sided Ballistix that everyone hates. Infamous nasty batch, too 97432. For me they've been great, though. Never taken them past 1.90v for longer than a short time, and that was just to rule out lack of RAM voltage when stabilizing a CPU overclock on Prime Blend.

I'm just trying to work out a deal with a guy on here for some older Ballistix 8500, just waiting to hear back from him. If I get those I'll shoot for the 1154.


Just trying to make light of the situation. :)


OK, I thought you were picking on me. ;) "My vdroop's worse than yours! I win!"

Just messing with you anyway. I though my vdroop was bad but yours is terrible, I agree.

[Ket]

Dang that sucks :( my RAM issues should forever go away in a few days, I ordered some CellShock PC8000 that has Micron D9s :D

[truehighroller]

Did you get the video ok? Asus never calls back when they say they will :(.

[Dee]

Dang that sucks :( my RAM issues should forever go away in a few days, I ordered some CellShock PC8000 that has Micron D9s :D

Nice! Hope the CellShock works good for you Ket. Let us know how it goes.

PS: Where did you find it for sale?

[Ket]

I found em right Here (http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr2ram/2gbcellshock1000mhzpc28000cl4.html) :up: from what I've seen those kits hit 1200MHz pretty easily.

truehighroller; I havent watched the vid yet, it was buffering _very_ slowly when I tried, and eventually I gave up. I'll try gain a bit later.

[truehighroller]

I found em right Here (http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr2ram/2gbcellshock1000mhzpc28000cl4.html) :up: from what I've seen those kits hit 1200MHz pretty easily.

truehighroller; I havent watched the vid yet, it was buffering _very_ slowly when I tried, and eventually I gave up. I'll try gain a bit later.

Bad thing is that they are only 1Gb a piece sticks. I want the 2Gb a piece sticks and at low latencies. Mine seem to do pretty darn good here at my 1152Mhz~ though so I guess I should just deal with it. Just like I want a dual core but yet I know I will have to switch to 1:1 to get the clocks every one else does and I don't want to run at PL10 so, I might just stick with this Q9450 until I upgrade to the new Architecture, once it gets cheaper ofcourse. Hell I want some good DDR3 2000 Woot.. As far as the video goes :shrug: Maybe I will download it and see if I get this issue. I have it on my PC already course, and watched it though and it seemed fine to me. Maybe you are trying to stream it? If that is the case you might want to actually download it then watch it. That server kicks arse that is for sure I was pulling 1.8Mbs from it when I tested the Linky.

[Ket]

2GB memory is plenty, even for Pista. (formerly known as Vista). Many people just aren't aware of services.msc ;) lets you turn a whole hoast of useless crap off or set it to manual so it don't start with Windoze. That lil trick significantly frees up your memory :up:

[truehighroller]

What services are good to turn off though. I know there are a ton that steal memory but I just never researched which ones to turn off.

I actually had 2Gbs of ballistix the two sided ones and sold them because when playing crysis my shiznit was like jerk move jerk move on day and I was like well screw it and got these sticks.

[Kartoff]

With 1402 BIOS i can do this stable :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 8,0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 552
PCI-E Frequency: 103
DRAM Frequency: 1104
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: 5
Read to Precharge Time: 3

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 8
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5
READ to READ Delay (S): 4
READ to READ Delay (D): 5
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 5

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: 10
READ to PRE Delay: 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 5
DRAM Static Read Control: ENABLE
DRAM Read Training: ENABLE
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLE Moderate
AI Clock Twister: MANUAL
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [10]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHA PH2: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHA PH3: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHA PH4: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH1: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH2: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH3: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH4: ENABLE

CPU Voltage: 1,46875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.625
CPU PLL Voltage: 1,56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1,30
DRAM Voltage: 2,10
NB Voltage: 1,40
NB GTL Reference: 0.595
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: ENABLE
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal
CPU Margin Management : Performance

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4003/552x81456vlf2.th.jpg (http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=552x81456vlf2.jpg)

I am happy :) With 1306 BIOS i can step over 546 and with 1201 and before maximum was on the 532 FSB... Also i tightened timings of the RAM with 1 notch down and it works fine... I hope i will go over 560 FSB soon...

[Ket]

What services are good to turn off though. I know there are a ton that steal memory but I just never researched which ones to turn off.

I actually had 2Gbs of ballistix the two sided ones and sold them because when playing crysis my shiznit was like jerk move jerk move on day and I was like well screw it and got these sticks.

I have a screenshot somewhere from when I tried Pista. I'll upload it if I can find it again.

[truehighroller]

Thank you sir,

[Ket]

I couldn't find that screenshot, must of been on a DVD I made but that got cracked somehow :\ I did find this image though :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/bizket/floppyaccident.gif

[truehighroller]

That is just as good. :rofl:

[Kartoff]

1.46 vCore 24/7 on air? :shocked: Can you tell me what temps you get running IntelBurnTest, and what RPM your TRUE/Case fans are?

I can put more than this voltage... But temps are max 64-66C at 100% load... I use only Evercool 12cm fans 2300 RPM and had 4 of them, 2 for CPU push-pull and 2 for back of the case... Plus 92mm fan on the cover and 3x92mm for HDD's... My CPU does 4550 with same voltage and max tem around 68C 100% load...

[truehighroller]

They have duplicated my issue WOOT!! I am waiting for them to see what the issue is now they think it is driver related but I changed the drivers to be the right ones because Vista installs ICH9 drivers by default and I installed the ICH10 drivers my self and it still happens so, I told the guy that info and he is looking into it as well as his boss as this point.. I am so happy now it has been duplicated and I am not crazy any more...

[Ket]

...All you need do now is wait about 10 years while Asus try to figure out whats doing it :p:

[truehighroller]

I know right. :(

[oMek]

well i just ordered a P5Q-E from newegg.

im running a Q9550 E0, G.Skill pc8500 (1066mhz) 2x2gigs ram.

what bios would you advise me to try first?

curently im hitting 3.8gigs @ 1.285 vcore on my p35 board. so anything higher than that will do me good ^^

[Ket]

Start with 1201m, most seem to like that version.

[Dee]

1201 is good, 1306 and 1402 are all great. I like the latest, 1402.

[Dee]

I found em right Here (http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr2ram/2gbcellshock1000mhzpc28000cl4.html) :up: from what I've seen those kits hit 1200MHz pretty easily.

I ordered the same CellShock. :) I'm interested to see your results. Mine should be here early next week.

[oMek]

thanks for the fast replys ^^

[oMek]

also what version are the R2 bios posted here?

[Dee]

For your P5Q-E? 1306m.

[noxon]

With 1402 BIOS i can do this stable :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 8,0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 552
PCI-E Frequency: 103
DRAM Frequency: 1104
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
.................................................
.
.
.
....etc



Great, u saved me alot time figuring out these settings myself, thanks for sharing :up:

[Kartoff]

Great, u saved me alot time figuring out these settings myself, thanks for sharing :up:

U are :welcome:

[psychok9]

Which is reccomended bios for great OC on Q6600-65nm? 1306m or 1402m? I want > 400 FSB... with old bios (803) i give 1,46v to cpu (dual fan air cooled), but i want try to lower vcore.
My ram is Corsair Dominator 1066MHz.
Thank you for your work Ket :)

[ironic]

Hello;
I'm a 3d studio max user so I need good computers for both modeling and rendering.
modeling needs everything rendering needs mostly cpu;
3dsmax supports net render so i'll get 4 of same computers with good render capability i just need some idea...
Modeler + Renderer:
Asus P5Q P45 1600 FSB/DDR2 1200 S+GL+1394+RAID+16X 145usd
Intel CPU Q9550 QuadCore 2.83 GHz 1333MHz 12MB 369usd
A-DATA 4 GB (2*2) 800 MHz DDR2 RAM Vitesta Extreme 108usd
A-DATA 4 GB (2*2) 800 MHz DDR2 RAM Vitesta Extreme 108usd
XpertVision HD4870 Sonic 512 MB 256Bit GDDR5 16X 309usd
Seagate 80 GB 7200 RPM 8MB SATA2 NCQ 42usd
Seagate 80 GB 7200 RPM 8MB SATA2 NCQ 42usd
Thermaltake 750 WATT TOUGHPOWER PSU 169usd

Net Renderer cluster or farm :) 4 x of same config
Biostar 945GC-M7 TE 1333FSB/DDR2 667 S+V+L+16X 775 43usd
A-DATA 2 GB(2*1) 800 MHz DDR2 RAM Vitesta Extreme 61usd
Intel CPU Q6600 QuadCore 2.4 GHz 1066MHz 8MB 219usd
Asus Z-45FP 400W 24 Pin PSU - 12cm FAN 49usd
why q6600= best price/performance on rendering...
why 800mhz ddr2=for thightest memory timings...
render farm will run @ stock speeds
but I want to overclock q9550+p45+ich10r combination
i dont know about strap thing...
Am i able to run 1:1 fsb:dram ratio 1333/667 with tight timings with q9550?
All you guys know about this computer thing any advices accepted :)
Thank you keep your good work about pcs...
cl2,2,2,5 ddr400 here :up: lol

[wongnog]

Which is reccomended bios for great OC on Q6600-65nm? 1306m or 1402m? I want > 400 FSB... with old bios (803) i give 1,46v to cpu (dual fan air cooled), but i want try to lower vcore.
My ram is Corsair Dominator 1066MHz.
Thank you for your work Ket :)

I've had good success with 1402m on my P5Q-E and Q6600 (G0). I'm Intel Burn Test and Prime95 stable at 8x425 and 1.40625 V. You'll probably have to drop your multiplier like I did, I was never able to boot at 9x400.

[Sauron_Vie]

which one will be the best clocker for 8600 on a P5Q Deluxe. I am currently @1306 - last official. highest spi 1m run was about 570x10 cooled by evap.

thx for some infos.

[Dashock]

Im going to try the 1402m on my Asus P5q-E id like to get a better overclock with my E3110. Thanx a lot Ket appreciate the custom bios's.

[Godmyster]

Anybody here have the P5Q DELUXE with the new mBIOS build 1402 i got the 0803 version still, any changes? is it worth it?

Thanks

[RAFMSK]

Anyone know if this bios would help running 4x1 of Corsair PC8500C5D?

The board(P5Q-Dlx) is stable when it boots, but it can't cold boot with 4 sticks, just fans spinning no vid signal.

:confused::up:

[Dee]

Anyone know if this bios would help running 4x1 of Corsair PC8500C5D?

The board(P5Q-Dlx) is stable when it boots, but it can't cold boot with 4 sticks, just fans spinning no vid signal.

:confused::up:

Join the club! I can't cold boot with 2 sticks in the P5Q-E. Boo!

[Quad-Damage]

the 1402 didn't even boot to windows for me, command error in the line or something, I got my sound working, Ill go back to 1201, it was very stable for myself

This is for a P5Q -E

[Ket]

Anyone wanting to try one of my mBIOS versions I recommend starting from the following points;

P5Q - 1004m
P5Q Pro - 1104m
P5Q-E - 1201m
P5Q Deluxe - 1201m
P5Q Premium - 1201m

[Godmyster]

What about the 1402?

[Ket]

Everything is subjective - too many variables. All I or anyone else can do is recommend settings and a good starting point.

[oMek]

kent, are the r2-1306's better than the single 1306s listed?

[SPiTFiREgr]

Anyone wanting to try one of my mBIOS versions I recommend starting from the following points;

P5Q - 1004m
P5Q Pro - 1104m
P5Q-E - 1201m
P5Q Deluxe - 1201m
P5Q Premium - 1201m

And why is that?

Also for P5Q Pro 1104 there is no R2...

[Ket]

Everything is subjective - too many variables. All I or anyone else can do is recommend settings and a good starting point.

........

[ironic]

hey! we don't want to answer :P

[wongnog]

Anyone wanting to try one of my mBIOS versions I recommend starting from the following points;

P5Q - 1004m
P5Q Pro - 1104m
P5Q-E - 1201m
P5Q Deluxe - 1201m
P5Q Premium - 1201m

Wondering same thing here, I Have a P5Q-E and wanted to know why you recommend 1201m over 1306m or 1402m. Thanks.

[Dee]

Personally I've had the best luck with 1306. I'm not sure if it's just a coincidence, but that's the one I'll be sticking with for now.

[Quad-Damage]

1201 is working great for me, 4.2 ghz all day :) for a 180 E8500 well worth it :)

[YMAA]

I'm using m1306 on the Deluxe right now, rig in sig. What have people had better luck with, 1402, 1306, or 1201?

[truehighroller]

I've had good success with 1402m on my P5Q-E and Q6600 (G0). I'm Intel Burn Test and Prime95 stable at 8x425 and 1.40625 V. You'll probably have to drop your multiplier like I did, I was never able to boot at 9x400.


Apparently that is another bug, which the engineer "that recreated my bug and is working on fixing it" I had talked to informed me of. For some reason there is a glitch related to the 9 mutliplier and that is why you can drop it to 8 and get away with it. I think he said that the FSB gets screwed up for some reason with the 9 multi on some Quads.

[BeastNotro]

I have used Original 1201, 1301, 1402 and they all work fine for me, but 1201 and 1301 seem to OC better then 1402 .. 1201 is really good, 1301 is about the same just added more memory support.

I also Kets modded version of those i listed and no difference for me as they all the samething just ket added more CPU's to be supported and more memory in the table from the premium bios.

So 1201 - 1301 are the best of the best, just if your in need of a modded bios for more memory table support and CPU .. then sue KET's modded version.

[Sauron_Vie]

I have used Original 1201, 1301, 1402 and they all work fine for me, but 1201 and 1301 seem to OC better then 1402 .. 1201 is really good, 1301 is about the same just added more memory support.

I also Kets modded version of those i listed and no difference for me as they all the samething just ket added more CPU's to be supported and more memory in the table from the premium bios.

So 1201 - 1301 are the best of the best, just if your in need of a modded bios for more memory table support and CPU .. then sue KET's modded version.

thks for the info.. then i will stay at the 1306 official bios.. clocks fine for me ;)

[Ket]

The added support in the mBIOSes 9\10 lead to better OC results, and fix some stuff thats broken in official BIOS versions, at least according to some folk who have tried them such as truehighroller. So if your looking to perhaps improve latencies or set pull-ins manually etc, one of the mBIOS versions is probably worth a shot.

[samsonJS]

Wondering same thing here, I Have a P5Q-E and wanted to know why you recommend 1201m over 1306m or 1402m. Thanks.

He didn't recommend 1201m over the other 2, he simply said it was the best starting point. Each version will be the best version for some people out there and the only way to find out for your own system is to test each of them.

There are X number of CPUs, Y number of motherboards, Z number of DIMMs, and so on. There is no way to account for every possible config or say which version will work best with some specific combination of hardware & settings without explicitly testing it.

Or more succinctly:


Everything is subjective - too many variables. All I or anyone else can do is recommend settings and a good starting point.

[Ket]

Well said sir, well said :D :clap:

[Ket]

mBIOS for CryptiK and his Maximus 2 Formula.

DL link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X293WCNR)

[CryptiK]

Thankyou very much mate, much appreciated, I'll let you know how I go. If you test it on yours before I get the chance tomorrow night, let me know how you go.

[Ket]

1200MHz so far with no mystery reboots like when using the M2F memory table. Will be pushing 1300 soon.

[Vazovskiiii]

hallo everybody has anybody tried to do crossflashing on p5q non pro bios on p5q-e bios? is it possible?
i have p5q non pro and i'd like have same overckoking options and all features for my bios to do best overclock is it possible?

[ThugsRook]

hallo everybody has anybody tried to do crossflashing on p5q non pro bios on p5q-e bios? is it possible?
i have p5q non pro and i'd like have same overckoking options and all features for my bios to do best overclock is it possible?
you need to use AFUdos flash, and you need a special command line (dont remember it offhand) or it will refuse to flash.

id say the P5Q Pro would be a more suitable bios for the P5Q.
no i havent tried it yet.

the P5Q doesnt seem to have a completely working bios, but then again all these P45 boards are flakey :rolleyes:

[Ket]

hallo everybody has anybody tried to do crossflashing on p5q non pro bios on p5q-e bios? is it possible?
i have p5q non pro and i'd like have same overckoking options and all features for my bios to do best overclock is it possible?

Umm.. please don't try that you WILL kill your board. Use the latest mBIOS for your P5Q (see first post) and you should be good to go.

ED - As a point of reference any bugs people are experiencing with a P5Q series board post it in here and I shall look into things.

[ThugsRook]

As a point of reference any bugs people are experiencing with a P5Q series board post it in here and I shall look into things.
1200mhz ddr no post bug!

1199 = yes
1200 = no

at all fsb/nbs/mem ratio combinations.
verified using setFSB my mem can run 1250+mhz 24/7 stable, but the bios cant boot it.

:shakes:

[Ket]

You sure on that? With my mBIOS I was booting 1206MHz earlier when playing with my new set of D9s.

[Pntgrd]

I did a trial run with some OZ and booted into Vista at 500/1250 on 1402m.

[CryptiK]

1200mhz ddr no post bug!

1199 = yes
1200 = no

at all fsb/nbs/mem ratio combinations.
verified using setFSB my mem can run 1250+mhz 24/7 stable, but the bios cant boot it.

:shakes:

I had the exact same thing on my P5Q-Deluxe 1199 stable, 1200 no POST, I also tried absolutely everything to no avail, it is the reason I RMA'd the board.

[Ket]

My P5Q Pro doesn't suffer with that at all.. but I am using a heavily customised BIOS :p: I shall shoot past the 1200s entirely later today just to see if 1300+ is stable.

[SPiTFiREgr]

Ι'm experiencing a bug with FSB over 360Mhz on P5Q PRO with E8500 and i tried every BIOS out there. Whatever value I set for FSB over 360Mhz results in an unstable system.

More details: http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/381121-p5q-pro-e8500-400mhz-fsb-unstable.html

[cka3o4nuk]

Ket is there any way to get CPU GTL Voltage Reference 0.67x option?

[carepolice]

Ket is there any way to get CPU GTL Voltage Reference 0.67x option?
no if ur motherboard doesnt support it !

[Ket]

Ι'm experiencing a bug with FSB over 360Mhz on P5Q PRO with E8500 and i tried every BIOS out there. Whatever value I set for FSB over 360Mhz results in an unstable system.

More details: http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/381121-p5q-pro-e8500-400mhz-fsb-unstable.html

You sure its not anything like FSB wall or just a weak chipset?


Ket is there any way to get CPU GTL Voltage Reference 0.67x option?

Maybe, but if it is possible it would likely be a PITA to put in.

[ThugsRook]

You sure on that? With my mBIOS I was booting 1206MHz earlier when playing with my new set of D9s.
im more then sure.
tried all Asus bios versions, and all your bios versions, no go @ 1200.

this is on a P5Q, but have also heard of this problem on P5Q Deluxe and P5Q Pro.

its as if its locked out, or 1200+mhz engages something automaticly that makes it unable to post.

:shrug:

[Ket]

Hmm.. well sounds like some kind of speed hole? maybe I got lucky with my P5Q Pro.. :woot: :D

[SPiTFiREgr]

You sure its not anything like FSB wall or just a weak chipset?

No i'm not. It seems to be an FSB wall / weak chipset but.. isn't that covered by the warranty? I bought something that supports 1600FSB right?

Although the specs of P45 by Intel state that the chipset supports up to 333Mhz FSB...

[carepolice]

Try another bios?
lower the multipr. and test when the wall comes / if there is.

[Ket]

No i'm not. It seems to be an FSB wall / weak chipset but.. isn't that covered by the warranty? I bought something that supports 1600FSB right?

Although the specs of P45 by Intel state that the chipset supports up to 333Mhz FSB...

Nope its not covered.. best thing you could do is do something to the mobo so it doesnt boot anymore (but dont make it obvious of course) and send the mobo back to the retailer for another. It does sound like the chipset on that mobo shouldnt of been used considering asus tout 1600MHz FSB.

[SPiTFiREgr]

Nope its not covered.. best thing you could do is do something to the mobo so it doesnt boot anymore (but dont make it obvious of course) and send the mobo back to the retailer for another. It does sound like the chipset on that mobo shouldnt of been used considering asus tout 1600MHz FSB.

How cannot be covered? The board advertises FSB1600. This is what i paid for.. right?

[Kartoff]

Ι'm experiencing a bug with FSB over 360Mhz on P5Q PRO with E8500 and i tried every BIOS out there. Whatever value I set for FSB over 360Mhz results in an unstable system.

More details: http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/381121-p5q-pro-e8500-400mhz-fsb-unstable.html

What frequencies did you try ? I know sometimes there are a holes bethween one frequency and another and maybe that is the problem... Or maybe you did something wrong with the settings ?
With my ex E8400 C0 i couldnt go over 480 FSB and 3600 MHz, but now with this E0 i can go over 550 FSB and 4600 MHz... Since i had this P5Q Deluxe i use FSB over 450 by default and that why i had P5B Deluxe and P5K-E before witch do over 450 FSB and i expect this mobo to go about 50 MHz higher than them and no need to go under 450 FSB even than under 500...
Just made a suggestion because i dunno your problem in deep and if you are sure that problem is in the mobo you can tell about to ASUS and see what they think...

[wongnog]

Apparently that is another bug, which the engineer "that recreated my bug and is working on fixing it" I had talked to informed me of. For some reason there is a glitch related to the 9 mutliplier and that is why you can drop it to 8 and get away with it. I think he said that the FSB gets screwed up for some reason with the 9 multi on some Quads.

Hmmm interesting, so are you saying the P5Q boards have a problem with 9 multi and 400 fsb on Q6600's? Can anyone else confirm this?

[samsonJS]

It's working for at least a few people (http://www.google.ca/search?q=q6600+9x400+p5q).

[Ket]

How cannot be covered? The board advertises FSB1600. This is what i paid for.. right?

Technically yes, but Asus will claim A: The chipset only officially supports 1333, and B: They will hide behind 1600MHz is when overclocking, and not guaranteed.

[Leeghoofd]

How cannot be covered? The board advertises FSB1600. This is what i paid for.. right?
Ket is right mate, the board works at stock speeds, so there's nothing really legal you can do about it... would love to see ya settings and a full list of ya hardware first before you blame the board... 370FSB seems pretty low :shrug: also I have no idea why you insist on using 400strap in your thread... and on a note more voltage isn't always better...

[Tatty_One]

I was kind of under the impression, that the reference to 1600FSB on the box was actually talking about the support to 1600FSB chips ie the QX9770......so "native" support as opposed to overclocking to 1600, or am I miles away here :confused:

[Leeghoofd]

Looking at intel specs for P45 it mentions 1333FSB support

Mobo makers are also advertising P45 boards capable of hitting 1600MHz (quad-pumped) front-side bus speeds despite the fact that Intel only endorses FSB speeds up to 1333MHz. Intel appears content to limit official support for the 1600MHz front-side bus required by its obscenely expensive Core 2 Quad QX9770 flagship to the high-end X48 chipset, which also doubles up on the P45's PCI Express lanes.

, Asus and co has 1600FSB out of the box, but if you read spitfire's thread on the other forum there's more to it then just the board...

[truehighroller]

Hmmm interesting, so are you saying the P5Q boards have a problem with 9 multi and 400 fsb on Q6600's? Can anyone else confirm this?

That is what Garren told me and he is the lead whatever it is called vp something over there at Asus for here in America. I actually could confirm it or debunk it myself as I have a Q6600 in my Fiances that I know overclocks like a beast. I don't think every one has the issue though but, you never know..

[Ket]

I was kind of under the impression, that the reference to 1600FSB on the box was actually talking about the support to 1600FSB chips ie the QX9770......so "native" support as opposed to overclocking to 1600, or am I miles away here :confused:

Ahh a fellow TPUer :D is everybody migrating from TPU to XS or something? :p:

[xdan]

Hi, to everyone:), i'm new on this forum.
I have a problem with Asus P5Q-PRO with an E2140(soon change). Even with modded bioses i can go furter than 395FSB, 3160GHZ, even though at a friend my E2140 rev MO can do FSB 415-420.
It might be a problem with strapp on NB because it only works fine set auto,
if i set on 400 it don't post. Also a problem is with Ram, i'm obligated to push them because for example at 395FSB, 3160GHZ it's stable with memory at 1040 5-5-5-5 2t, but at same frequency it isn't stable(after 20-30mins) with memory at 980. (FSB:RAM DIVIZORS):mad:
Curently m1307. I can say that mbioses helped me because with Asus officiales bioses max was fsb 380.
m140x version for P5Q-PRO will you do Ket? Thank you very much, anticipated.
P.S Thanks to God that i finaly succed to post on forum, i've been waiting 4-5 days from registrations !
I hope that i did not do big mistakes in english, because i'm not an englishman, i'm romanian from Romania, Europe for people who didn't heard until now about this country.:)

[Ket]

My P5Q Pro won't POST either when setting a memory divider higher than 1:1 with a 400 strap, even though it works fine on a AW9D-Max. Its either CPU or divider issues. Only known fix: buy a 45nm CPU.

[Tatty_One]

Ahh a fellow TPUer :D is everybody migrating from TPU to XS or something? :p:

Been a member since the start of the year but these guys have been helpful in the Q9650 thread so I pop in from time to time.

[Ket]

You should stop by more often :D nowhere near as many n00blets :p:

[xdan]

Thank, you Ket anyway. You're good to be hire :D by Asus.
They have there meny incompetens, stupids guys.:mad:
Also without your mBioses, with Asus bioses i had ram errors at 1050 frequency. Now, i don't have anymore.:up:

[axy1985]

Mmm... BIOS 1402 was pulled from the ASUS website for the P5Q-E. Any ideas why?
Noticed it when I was thinking of trying it out over my 1201 BIOS.

[anzial]

I'm trying to flash my brand-new P5Q deluxe with 1201m bios but AFUDOS hangs at advance check stage... It doesn't proceed to write anything... anyone has any idea why is this happening? I haven't tried other ways to flash the bios.

[samsonJS]

axy1985: Not sure why it was pulled, but I had back luck w/ 1306 and I assumed 1402 was a rushed job to fix some glaring bugs in 1306, maybe 1402 was worse for some people. Who knows. I'm doing ok on m1402 but if you're not having problems I'd stick w/ 1201 for the time being.

[xdan]

You can try two methods.:up:
First and recomanded, to flash from bios : put the bios file on a USB flash drive, then from bios/tools/asus ez flash you update the bios... :up:
Another method is from windows with Asus Update/update from file and you browse from your computer your 1201 bios file,/flash recomanded with Clear Cmos option activated :up:

[Vazovskiiii]

Umm.. please don't try that you WILL kill your board. Use the latest mBIOS for your P5Q (see first post) and you should be good to go.

ED - As a point of reference any bugs people are experiencing with a P5Q series board post it in here and I shall look into things.
ok i will not do this:)
i;m using your mod bios of course 1306 for p5q non pro i have overclocked on this bios 1224 my teamxtrem ram:) but i just seen that p5q-e have more functions for overclocking the cpu that's why i'm asking:) i've heard that possible to upgrade maximus formula's bios on rampage formula :) so i've thought that it's possible on p45 to how do you thing in future it will be possible? i whant to know why it's not possible what kind of problem is it? :)
and is there 1307 mbios for p5q non pro?
thank you

[Dashock]

Flashed to your 1201m bios but i do not see your symbol when i boot either.

[Ket]

Dunno why some see the logo and some don't, its somewhat of a mystery :shrug: All I can say is try loading setup defaults, shutting down, removing CMOS battery and power cord and settings CMOS jumper to "clear" position for a few mins. Generally I advise doing this anyway so everything works as it should.

[xdan]

Check option boot screen logo (enable/disable), may be you guys in some strange way you have disable even though after flashing settings must be "default" and that means boot screen logo Enable. :up:

[Dashock]

Checked everything should show anyways KET your a genuis the 1306 is playing well with me here is official Bios 1306 vs Superman Ket's bios 1306.

First up Official Asus Bios 1306
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/402/fsb450ram1080ba9.jpg

Next Superman Ket's Bios 1306

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2656/newfsb450ram1080gd7.jpg
I got sum really nice gains on the copy now all the setting are on auto except the 5-5-5-15 I know i probbaly fine tune it but that will take me some time. Since yea'll are more experienced how does it look?

[anzial]

Dunno why some see the logo and some don't, its somewhat of a mystery :shrug: All I can say is try loading setup defaults, shutting down, removing CMOS battery and power cord and settings CMOS jumper to "clear" position for a few mins. Generally I advise doing this anyway so everything works as it should.

Removing CMOS battery is not that easy if you have a dual-slot videocard sitting over it :cool:

[Ket]

Checked everything should show anyways KET your a genuis the 1306 is playing well with me here is official Bios 1306 vs Superman Ket's bios 1306.

First up Official Asus Bios 1306
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/402/fsb450ram1080ba9.jpg

Next Superman Ket's Bios 1306

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2656/newfsb450ram1080gd7.jpg
I got sum really nice gains on the copy now all the setting are on auto except the 5-5-5-15 I know i probbaly fine tune it but that will take me some time. Since yea'll are more experienced how does it look?
:clap: Thats some impressive results! Gotta admit.. Even I'm impressed how well my modded BIOS is doing vs. asus vanilla.

[B.E.E.F.]

So the 1402 for the P5Q-E are the ASUS beta ones? The website goes to 1306.

[Ket]

I think they are still beta yeah. I'm using a modded 1307 on my Pro and its working fine, from what others have said the other betas are fine as well.

[MajkY]

I ´m so pissed offfffffffffffffffffffffffff

when i press start-restart from windows, system restarts, but thats all. No boot at all...... no logo screen nothing. (fans are on) and this is happening everytime i want to restart system no matter if its from windows or bios... also when i change some setting in bios "save and exit" from bios...it restart, but no boot... i have to unplug electricity and than on 2-3 time it boot.
I have ASUS P5Q PRO with bios 1004. I wonder if this 1307 for my board can solve this problem ? :S

[Ket]

Sounds more like a power issue. Try a different PSU or at least make sure all connections are connected properly.

[SPiTFiREgr]

Well I have tried ANY settings combination that's available. That was ~ 3 weeks of testing and stressing. The conclusion i came is that when writing bandwidth excess a certain amount the system is unstable. That would be either a chipset fault or a memory incompatibility (?) Unfortunately i couldn't find any other P5Q-PRO owner with the sticks i tested (SUPERTALENT 800Mhz CL4, OCZ SLI EDITION 1066 CL5) to have a reference. Everyone seems to have corsair or g.skill or crucial..

I have contacted ASUS support and co-operated on researching the problem and they said me that maybe it's a Northbridge heat problem..

Also i have to mention that when i say "system unstable" i mean Prime95 blend. When using small ffts test there is no instability.. So that tells me that it's something to do with the memory. And because of the high fsb even lowering the memory to 1:1 and running it at 800Mhz doesn't lowers memory writing bandwidth..

[Ket]

I have a kit of that OCZ SLI memory, maybe we can figure something out.

[samsonJS]

MajkY: You're not alone. A couple of us in the P5Q thread on [h]ard have the same problem, though mine isn't quite that bad. The only advice I can give is to reflash your BIOS, clear CMOS, load default settings, and definitely do not load any saved OC profiles, create fresh ones. After doing all that sometimes the problem returns after 4-7 days but for me it's mostly fixed. Now and then it crops up, maybe 1/50 or 1/100 times I save BIOS settings. I really want to know what triggers it as it seems random on my board.

[SPiTFiREgr]

I have a kit of that OCZ SLI memory, maybe we can figure something out.

The part number of the sticks is OCZ2N1066SR1G and they are 2 x 1GB kit . Do we have the same? Have you ever tested them with the P5Q PRO?

Oh man you maybe be the first person i meet on the net to have a P5Q PRO and some same memory as mine. lol I had started to think that i would have better made a research for what memory most P5Q PRO owners use before i made my purchase. In fact i didn't know that G.skill or Crucial was so famous.. I thought i would find more people using OCZ memory

[Dashock]

First off Ket :clap: of to you my good man. Second i got all the settings on auto at the moment i know youve said it might be better leaving them loose but do you think i should try to you know configure them again and take them off auto might increase in performance ( might ). I really wanna do 5-5-5-12 on these Mushkin Ascent Redline 8000 kit i got it running at 1066.:up:

[ahmad]

I ´m so pissed offfffffffffffffffffffffffff

when i press start-restart from windows, system restarts, but thats all. No boot at all...... no logo screen nothing. (fans are on) and this is happening everytime i want to restart system no matter if its from windows or bios... also when i change some setting in bios "save and exit" from bios...it restart, but no boot... i have to unplug electricity and than on 2-3 time it boot.
I have ASUS P5Q PRO with bios 1004. I wonder if this 1307 for my board can solve this problem ? :S

This is a voltage issue I am sure. Try higher vtt..

[Ket]

The part number of the sticks is OCZ2N1066SR1G and they are 2 x 1GB kit . Do we have the same? Have you ever tested them with the P5Q PRO?

Oh man you maybe be the first person i meet on the net to have a P5Q PRO and some same memory as mine. lol I had started to think that i would have better made a research for what memory most P5Q PRO owners use before i made my purchase. In fact i didn't know that G.skill or Crucial was so famous.. I thought i would find more people using OCZ memory

Yep thats the same OCZ kit as I have. I wasn't looking for memory that clocked really well, just something that was fast stock and maybe had enough wiggle room to go to ~1150MHz. After 5 RAM kits I'm convinced the memory I have can't all be crap clockers, and theres another limiting factor somewhere.


First off Ket :clap: of to you my good man. Second i got all the settings on auto at the moment i know youve said it might be better leaving them loose but do you think i should try to you know configure them again and take them off auto might increase in performance ( might ). I really wanna do 5-5-5-12 on these Mushkin Ascent Redline 8000 kit i got it running at 1066.:up:

I set some timings manually, but for the most part other timings are best left at auto anyway.

[MajkY]

This is a voltage issue I am sure. Try higher vtt..

I couldn´t belive myself...but you are right. i set 1.4V VTT and no reboot issue !
Thank you very much !!:woot:

- anyway i will try new bios 1307 :up::up:

[carepolice]

Majky 1.4 VTT is maybe too high for 45nm chipset !!

[MajkY]

I didn´t know. 1.32VTT should be OK ?

[carepolice]

By myself max VTT that i use is 1.34V, Many people says that ~1.35 VTT is fine. Try up some other voltage, But remeber: stay in safe values :>

[SPiTFiREgr]

Yep thats the same OCZ kit as I have. I wasn't looking for memory that clocked really well, just something that was fast stock and maybe had enough wiggle room to go to ~1150MHz. After 5 RAM kits I'm convinced the memory I have can't all be crap clockers, and theres another limiting factor somewhere.

Do you mean that you have tested OCZ kits with the P5Q PRO and there is a limiting factor somewhere else but the sticks themselves? When you say 5 ram kits you mean five OCZ2N1066SR1G kits?:eek:

I'm currently running those OCZ2N1066SR1G at 1154Mhz with 360FSB (5:8 ratio) and they are stable. But as i said raising the fsb (and as a result, memory write bandwidth) there is instability with blend stress (large fft).. Do you mean the same?

If high memory write bandwidth is the cause of the instability with certain memory modules then the only thing i can think of as the cause of the problem is inappropriate timing settings set by the motherboard (because there are some timing options that cant be set by the bios. even with manual selected ofcourse).

[bayer]

It's definitely a voltage problem, or at least a VTT issue. I had the SAME issue as a lot of people where the board would boot fine the fist time, but then fail to boot if restarted (via Windows). For me, I was afraid to go above 1.2 VTT with my E8500 but decided to try it out and see what happened... I set VTT to 1.22 and booted the board, and then restarted via Windows and it actually restarted this time without issue. I then kept lowering VTT until I was satisfied with the VTT value and the stability of my OC. Right now, I've settled for VTT at 1.16 and the board boots and restarts fine.

The funny thing is though, that I never had this problem when I first bought the board... It happened about 2 weeks after, and lasted for a few days. Loading new BIOS's and even a full clear of CMOS with the battery out didn't seem the help. Then one day, just setting VTT above 1.2 got the board acting normal again.

[xdan]

The fact is that many P45 series have a strange comportament, in special from Asus. The strange things is that many work normal, others don't, the bioses don't use in my opinion the full potential of chipset, i start to think that
all these ar because all mb were made in a rush like "hotyes 4850" just to take money from us. And the most condamnble thing is that they even bother to repair in time the bugs with bioses, and without men like Ket many of us would have even now issues.

[SPiTFiREgr]

It's definitely a voltage problem, or at least a VTT issue.

I have tried every voltage available. I have even tried NB as high as 1.42 and VTT as high as 1.38

45nm chips do not need so high fsb voltages to go for 400Mhz FSB..

I have also tried higher fsb to exclude any possibility of fsb hole. I have tried 401, 403, 405, 410, 415, 420.. All with the same result!

[Vazovskiiii]

I think they are still beta yeah. I'm using a modded 1307 on my Pro and its working fine, from what others have said the other betas are fine as well.

ket do you have 1307 your mod bios for P5Q non pro? can you arange this for me ? :)

[Sauron_Vie]

@Ket: the m0803 Bios from ur first post is also for the p5q deluxe ?

[Vazovskiiii]

here is my overclocking :) on 1306 bios :)
http://image.geotorrents.com/images/kgb3aqwlgm0az17jog4h.png (http://image.geotorrents.com/)

waiting for 1307 from ket :)

[ThugsRook]

waiting for 1307 from ket :)
check the main post, its been there for awhile now.

[hema]

here is my overclocking :) on 1306 bios :)
http://image.geotorrents.com/images/kgb3aqwlgm0az17jog4h.png (http://image.geotorrents.com/)

waiting for 1307 from ket :)

here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U2OYHEVX)

[SPiTFiREgr]

Another fact: Trying to set 400 FSB with 333 STRAP and 960 Memory Speed resulted in post fail with beep beep beep beep beeps (not beeeeeeeeeep, many beeps lol)

Ket, also tried your 1004 modded bios

[Dashock]

Alright i know some of you have been having issues with Load Line calibration turned on/off i currently have it on Auto. I havent seen any of these issues i got it up to 4.5ghz i was only 2 hours stable. But i only had it pumped to 1.41volts so a bit more voltage im pretty sure i can get it stable but i would not be running that 24/7 i just wanted to hit 4.0ghz and i achieved that. My motherboard might be a new revision Asus P5Q-E ReV 2

[Ket]

Scout your board for the rev, if you have a newer rev it'll be higher than 1.03G.

[carepolice]

What changes is there in newer versions of rev? CPU-Z says for me rev:A2 is that old or new? :shrug:

[Ket]

Do you mean that you have tested OCZ kits with the P5Q PRO and there is a limiting factor somewhere else but the sticks themselves? When you say 5 ram kits you mean five OCZ2N1066SR1G kits?:eek:

I'm currently running those OCZ2N1066SR1G at 1154Mhz with 360FSB (5:8 ratio) and they are stable. But as i said raising the fsb (and as a result, memory write bandwidth) there is instability with blend stress (large fft).. Do you mean the same?

If high memory write bandwidth is the cause of the instability with certain memory modules then the only thing i can think of as the cause of the problem is inappropriate timing settings set by the motherboard (because there are some timing options that cant be set by the bios. even with manual selected ofcourse).

Not 5 OCZ kits no. I thought the P5Q series was just very picky about what RAM it would play nice with, thats seems to not be the case tho I have tried to date;

Patriot PC6400 4-4-4-12 (works great @ 1066 on a AW9D-Max) on the P5Q series the system won't even POST with this kit.

Geil Golden Dragon PC6400, I'm sure on any other board this kit would do 1066+, on the P5Q series it boots all the way up to 1100+ but isnt stable even @ 1029 :rolleyes:

OCZ SLi kit, constant problems with the memory, booted 1143MHz, not stable. Again I think this is a P5Q series BIOS issue.

Mushkin PC8000 D9GMX, booted 1143MHz, not stable.. (noticing a pattern here yet?)

Cellshock PC8000 D9GKX, boots up to 1206MHz, not stable even @ 1143MHz seemingly..

The only explanation to all this I can think of is my CPU and the P45 not actually being properly tailored for 65nm CPUs.. that or asus partially fudged 65nm support. Even on a AW9D-Max I can run my "lowly" E4400 on a 400 strap @ 425FSB, absolutely perfect. What happens when I try setting 400 strap and memory divider on the P5Q boards? No POST. Well done Asus :clap: :rolleyes: /sarcasm.

The timings you can't set in BIOS are not a huge problem, this is where spdtool comes to the rescue, you can loosen things like trc via the spd data and reflash the modules. The only pain in the arse is that w1z still hasn't added P45 support. Bad w1z, bad bad w1z :slapass:

Theoretically loosening trc for intel boards should allow for better stability and higher frequencies.

[Ket]

What changes is there in newer versions of rev? CPU-Z says for me rev:A2 is that old or new? :shrug:

I had the P5Q Pro since the whole series was released, and CPU-Z reports A2 for me, so seems like asus haven't made any hardware tweaks.

[carepolice]

so seems like asus haven't made any hardware tweaks.
Suprise :D

[Ket]

I know.. I'm still astonished at the condition asus let the P5Q series roll out the door in. My board came with BIOS 0506, and when voltages were left on auto it pumped 1.6v through my CPU amongst a whole hoard of other bugs :eek: Don't want to imagine the catastrophe of what 1.6v would do to a 45nm....

[carepolice]

Huh, I can imagine what could happen when use 1.6V on 45nm processor :shakes: My P5Q-E came whit 06xx bios, Didnt take a look that bios "auto" volts.

Btw i have noticed that some people have reported issues about Bootlogo! I got same thing on my P5Q-E.
+ People who have reported about this, uses P5Q-E too! Would CMOS battery removing help on this? I dont want do it whitout results becouse my graphic gard is just on it! :(

[truehighroller]

Huh, I can imagine what could happen when use 1.6V on 45nm processor :shakes: My P5Q-E came whit 06xx bios, Didnt take a look that bios "auto" volts.

Btw i have noticed that some people have reported issues about Bootlogo! I got same thing on my P5Q-E.
+ People who have reported about this, uses P5Q-E too! Would CMOS battery removing help on this? I dont want do it whitout results becouse my graphic gard is just on it! :(


Ahhh yes the troubles of overclocking :rofl: lol just take the case out and grab your screw driver and loosen those bolts and pull that sucker out and get that battery out of her hole and short the clear jumper and pull the power cord and let it sit there for like ten minutes. Then reverse.

[YMAA]

To clear the CMOS on these boards you don't need to pull the battery. The jumper near the battery is all that's needed. Just turn off/unplug the PSU, pull off the jumper, and put it on the other pins 2/3 for 10 seconds. Then put the jumper back on pins 1/2 and turn the system back on. CMOS cleared, bada-bing.

[carepolice]

To clear the CMOS on these boards you don't need to pull the batter. The jumper near the battery is all that's needed. Just turn off/unplug the PSU, pull off the jumper, and put it on the other pins 2/3 for 10 seconds. Then put the jumper back on pins 1/2 and turn the system back on. CMOS cleared, bada-bing.

I know that i have cleared CMOS everytime i have installed mbios, but this battery remove? Is that necessary? :confused:

[YMAA]

To clear the CMOS on these boards you don't need to pull the battery.


I know that i have cleared CMOS everytime i have installed mbios, but this battery remove? Is that necessary? :confused:

No, you don't need to pull the battery. All you need to do is move the jumper, wait, and move the jumper back.

[Ket]

Removing the battery fully clears the CMOS, just setting the jumper to "clear" does not. To see this for yourself you will notice when not removing the CMOS battery the board holds various settings still such as time and date.

[truehighroller]

Agreed ^

I think it's better some times to wipe everything out by draining all power for bout ten minutes. That's why I say to pull the battery. I did get a flaky BIOS chip from Asus though so, maybe he has a flaky one. Have you tried using the backup Chip to see if it acts better? I had them send me two new ones when I found my bad one.

[truehighroller]

Ket why didn't you buy my chip? :( . I thought you wanted it.

[Ket]

I did, but finances are tricky atm. I don't have the new chip yet nor is it ordered, its just planned :D

[truehighroller]

What chip? I don't know though every one else seems to be having a hard time clocking to where I am at with this chip so maybe I should just hold onto it and cherish it. :p:

[Dashock]

This was with bios 1201 it was stable for 2 hours and then i got hit with a blue screen. Anyways i only had in bios 1.4125 so this time im gonna pump it a bit more say 1.45 i think it should be fine its not something i want 24/7 but i wanted to see how much further i could push this bugger. Ill probably try for it again and see how much volts it reallly needs to be stable.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/imagehosting/169648d2501f9c33d.jpg

[BeastNotro]

Whats the latest Ket Bios for Deluxe?

[carepolice]

Whats the latest Ket Bios for Deluxe?
Take a look on start post mate!

[Ket]

It amazes me how people miss this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=200109&page=1) :p:

[raab]

Hi Ket,

I've loaded your 1402 bios for my P5Q Deluxe, set the jumper and removed the battery however I still didn't get any logo? Bios is definitely cleared as I've had to set the date/time etc again. Is this an issue at all?

I haven't touched any settings but gained 30fps in the CSS video stress test. Haven't really looked at any other benchmarks cos I'm too lazy so I don't if your bios is loaded properly.

[Ket]

Don't worry about the boot logo, its somewhat of an anomaly, most see the logo but some don't. Not seeing it won't effect the BIOS at all.

[ahmad]

To clear the CMOS on these boards you don't need to pull the battery. The jumper near the battery is all that's needed. Just turn off/unplug the PSU, pull off the jumper, and put it on the other pins 2/3 for 10 seconds. Then put the jumper back on pins 1/2 and turn the system back on. CMOS cleared, bada-bing.

This works for me too. Even clock is reset...

[Ket]

The clock shouldn't be reset without removing the battery. Given the fickle nature of the P5Q boards its always best to remove the CMOS battery as well otherwise you may experience phantom instability issues.

[Huexxx]

The clock shouldn't be reset without removing the battery. Given the fickle nature of the P5Q boards its always best to remove the CMOS battery as well otherwise you may experience phantom instability issues.

Then... if I've 1402m BIOS right now... but I've never removed the battery... do I have to remove it in order to avoid phantom instability issues?

Thanks.

[truehighroller]

You should.. yes,

[Ket]

Yes. Among other things you may find EZflash won't work without doing a proper CMOS reset.

[cka3o4nuk]

ppl does anybody tried to flash p5q-e bios on p5q-pro mobo?

[Vazovskiiii]

1307 is awwsome thank's ketz it's beautifull a have 250 more points in read 600 in copy 300 in write nowi will try it in overclocking :) beautifull

[axy1985]

Well, took the plunge and flashed the 1306m R2 for the P5Q-E. No problems so far, will test later on.
Oh... and no boot logo here either lol.

[truehighroller]

They fixed it,,,,,, WOOOOOOT.................... Apparently I was right sorta.. The new revisions didn't cooperate with the Q9450s as they should and mine just got fedup with it but, the problem is I am at work right now and can't reach my PC to try it out yet. I uploaded it here (http://rapidshare.com/files/147433909/P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-1403.rar.html) for everyone.. Cheers. Ket you can mod it while I'm at work or even see what they cought that was screwing it up maybe if you want. I asked the tech to ask them what is was exactly but he said he might not get an answer but, it deffinately had to do with my CPU he said.

P.S.: It is 1403 BIOS.

[Dee]

Well, took the plunge and flashed the 1306m R2 for the P5Q-E. No problems so far, will test later on.
Oh... and no boot logo here either lol.

Axy! See PM's. ;)

[Ket]

Investigating 1403 now. Truehighroller, did you happen to ask if they will be including the fix for other P5Q models as well?

[truehighroller]

Well I just tried it and it didn't fix it. :(

Edit: did you ever watch my video?

[Ket]

Nope it never worrked right for me always taking ages :\

[Ket]

Do you mean that you have tested OCZ kits with the P5Q PRO and there is a limiting factor somewhere else but the sticks themselves? When you say 5 ram kits you mean five OCZ2N1066SR1G kits?:eek:

I'm currently running those OCZ2N1066SR1G at 1154Mhz with 360FSB (5:8 ratio) and they are stable. But as i said raising the fsb (and as a result, memory write bandwidth) there is instability with blend stress (large fft).. Do you mean the same?

If high memory write bandwidth is the cause of the instability with certain memory modules then the only thing i can think of as the cause of the problem is inappropriate timing settings set by the motherboard (because there are some timing options that cant be set by the bios. even with manual selected ofcourse).

This is a customised spd data file for those OCZ2N1066SR1G. As your probably aware spdtool is absolutely bloody useless on P45 boards currently :down::down: However you can use spdtool on just about any other platform. Let me know if the modules play nice :up:

[oMek]

my new pq5-e from newegg is a rev A3 on the north.

so far all bios work fine for me on loadline. without it i get massive vdrop/droop. with it on.. it over volts alittle on load.

[Ket]

I wonder what changes were made... wish asus would tell people stuff like that. Usually hardware revisions fix or improve things quite noticably.

[truehighroller]

Well I am packing that video for you so you can actually just download it instead of trying to stream it. What ftp program are you using?

[oMek]

I wonder what changes were made... wish asus would tell people stuff like that. Usually hardware revisions fix or improve things quite noticably.

no idea what changed, it came with the 1201 bios stock, and so far the 14xx version is the most stable for me.

and this thing runs like 10-15C cooler than my old p35. im lovein it.

[Ket]

Well I am packing that video for you so you can actually just download it instead of trying to stream it. What ftp program are you using?

I use FTP Surfer


no idea what changed, it came with the 1201 bios stock, and so far the 14xx version is the most stable for me.

and this thing runs like 10-15C cooler than my old p35. im lovein it.

Keep us posted :up:

[truehighroller]

Ok try this Ket,

I tried it and it didn't work with the link,,

I put it on the server though. Do you still have the server info? You can jump on the server and download the .rar version.

[Tony]

This is a customised spd data file for those OCZ2N1066SR1G. As your probably aware spdtool is absolutely bloody useless on P45 boards currently :down::down: However you can use spdtool on just about any other platform. Let me know if the modules play nice :up:

Ket please drop me a PM with a changelog for this file if you can. Also please come thru me if you find a bug in SPD, im open to all help but I like to keep customers warranty in tact.

[Vazovskiiii]

1307 is beautifull :) thank you very much :)
waiting for 1403 best as allways :)
maximus 2 formula is p45 chipset yes? is it possible to insert in bios same overclocking features as maximus on p5q non pro? and memory table of course like in 1307 :) this is beautiful i hope that soon it will be possible to crossflashing p5Q non pro on maximus 2 formula :)

[Ket]

Tony, I'll try to drop you a PM in a day or two, if you haven't got a PM in a few days just remind me I'm pretty busy atm.

Vazovskiiii, What your asking can be done, but would likely require a lot of work and BIOS re-programming on top of careful cross-referencing. For these reasons there won't be a "incredible hulk" BIOS for the P5Q series, I don't have the time, nor do I possess all the tools Asus use. Of course, if a company were to pay me *cough* Asus *cough*, then it could be a different story.

[SPiTFiREgr]

This is a customised spd data file for those OCZ2N1066SR1G. As your probably aware spdtool is absolutely bloody useless on P45 boards currently :down::down: However you can use spdtool on just about any other platform. Let me know if the modules play nice :up:

Woot ! When you say customized you also mean optimized timings or rated timings from OCZ?

Sadly i dont have any other platform to test them so... i'm waiting for an update of spdtool to recognize P45. I hope configuring timings from SPD bytes will fix stability problems.. Does EPP contains more settings than SPD? Or it's just a marketing renamed SPD?

[Ket]

Woot ! When you say customized you also mean optimized timings or rated timings from OCZ?

Sadly i dont have any other platform to test them so... i'm waiting for an update of spdtool to recognize P45. I hope configuring timings from SPD bytes will fix stability problems.. Does EPP contains more settings than SPD? Or it's just a marketing renamed SPD?

EPP is a laughable gimmick. About half of the speed data has been reconfigured. Heres a quick rundown of changes;

- Added 800MHz frequency to speed data
- 2nd speed profile is 533MHz, 3rd speed profile is 400MHz
- Auto Timings @ 800MHz = 5-5-5-18-42-42-4-8-4-4
- Auto Timings @ 533MHz = 4-4-4-12-28-28-3-6-3-3
- Auto Timings @ 400MHz = 3-3-3-9-21-21-2-4-2-2

Now, the more technical stuff.

- CLX-1 @ 533 is 0.50ns
- CLX-2 @ 400 is 0.50ns

TRP = 12.50ns, TRRD = 10.00ns, TRCD = 12.50ns, TRAS = 45ns, TWR = 19.00ns, TRTP = 10.00ns, TRC = 105ns, TRFC = 105ns.

Naturally, I have tested this speed file myself on my OCZ2N1066SR1G kit, all works perfectly. These timings offer an extremely good balance between performance and compatibility. EPP profiles have been left unchanged. Test platforms have been Asus Crosshair, Asus M2N-SLi, and Asus P5Q Pro.

[SPiTFiREgr]

EPP is a laughable gimmick. About half of the speed data has been reconfigured. Heres a quick rundown of changes;

- Added 800MHz frequency to speed data
- 2nd speed profile is 533MHz, 3rd speed profile is 400MHz
- Auto Timings @ 800MHz = 5-5-5-18-42-42-4-8-4-4
- Auto Timings @ 533MHz = 4-4-4-12-28-28-3-6-3-3
- Auto Timings @ 400MHz = 3-3-3-9-21-21-2-4-2-2

Now, the more technical stuff.

- CLX-1 @ 533 is 0.50ns
- CLX-2 @ 400 is 0.50ns

TRP = 12.50ns, TRRD = 10.00ns, TRCD = 12.50ns, TRAS = 45ns, TWR = 19.00ns, TRTP = 10.00ns, TRC = 105ns, TRFC = 105ns.

Naturally, I have tested this speed file myself on my OCZ2N1066SR1G kit, all works perfectly. These timings offer an extremely good balance between performance and compatibility. EPP profiles have been left unchanged. Test platforms have been Asus Crosshair, Asus M2N-SLi, and Asus P5Q Pro.

4-4-4-12 for 533? Isn't that tight? and 800? zomg you mean 1600ddr?

EDIT: Got my answer from spdtool 'timing summary' myself :p

[Vazovskiiii]

Tony, I'll try to drop you a PM in a day or two, if you haven't got a PM in a few days just remind me I'm pretty busy atm.

Vazovskiiii, What your asking can be done, but would likely require a lot of work and BIOS re-programming on top of careful cross-referencing. For these reasons there won't be a "incredible hulk" BIOS for the P5Q series, I don't have the time, nor do I possess all the tools Asus use. Of course, if a company were to pay me *cough* Asus *cough*, then it could be a different story.

ya i'm sure that it can be done aspecially if you would like :) you are the best :)
but i'm sure when you will have time plz do this for xtreem guys :)

[Ket]

I give effective frequencies not "halves".

[Tony]

EPP is a laughable gimmick. About half of the speed data has been reconfigured. Heres a quick rundown of changes;

- Added 800MHz frequency to speed data
- 2nd speed profile is 533MHz, 3rd speed profile is 400MHz
- Auto Timings @ 800MHz = 5-5-5-18-42-42-4-8-4-4
- Auto Timings @ 533MHz = 4-4-4-12-28-28-3-6-3-3
- Auto Timings @ 400MHz = 3-3-3-9-21-21-2-4-2-2

Now, the more technical stuff.

- CLX-1 @ 533 is 0.50ns
- CLX-2 @ 400 is 0.50ns

TRP = 12.50ns, TRRD = 10.00ns, TRCD = 12.50ns, TRAS = 45ns, TWR = 19.00ns, TRTP = 10.00ns, TRC = 105ns, TRFC = 105ns.

Naturally, I have tested this speed file myself on my OCZ2N1066SR1G kit, all works perfectly. These timings offer an extremely good balance between performance and compatibility. EPP profiles have been left unchanged. Test platforms have been Asus Crosshair, Asus M2N-SLi, and Asus P5Q Pro.

Why have you got TRC set so high?

TRC = TRP +TRAS...you have almost double this

[Ket]

Because intel chipsets need a higher TRC vs. AMD chipsets for maximum compatibility, stability and for OCing. Not all boards offer the TRC value in their BIOS (such as the P5Q series) thats why I set it higher. Its RAM 101, surprised you wern't aware of this :eek:

[Ket]

Here is a (and possibly eagerly awaited) modded version of BIOS 1403 for the P5Q Deluxe. No updates for any other boards as Asus haven't released any, I keep checking various FTPs and a few other places, nada. Perhaps truehighroller can ask Asus when the other P5Q boards will get the updates the Deluxe has. (hint hint, nudge nudge :p: )

P5Q Dlx mBIOS 1403 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SCFMODTY)

[Ket]

Making a new post so its seperate from the regular mBIOS stuff. I decided I would have a go at adding some interesting stuff to the P5Q Dlx and P5Q Pro BIOS (these 2 are the most downloaded, hence why I'm just doing these 2 for now)

Heres the options I will be attempting to add;

CPU GTL ref 1...3 (all P5Q boards have 0)
NB GTL ref
NB DDR2 ref
DDR2 channel A&B ref voltage
DRAM clock skew A1\2 & B1\2

In total thats 9 extra options.

Am I missing any potentially useful options from that list?

[truehighroller]

You are the man.. :up:

[Ket]

...Asus don't like me very much anymore do they? :p: Making BIOSes that work better than even their mighty Maximus 2 Formula..

Of course, this is assuming I can make these options work.

[hema]

hi ket
what about other board
donot forget P5Q man

[truehighroller]

I say if they can't stand the heat :banana::banana::banana::banana: em. :up:

[Ket]

Very true :D

[hema]

hi man
we still stay waiting for the rest of P45 series
let the game begin:clap:

[Toysoldier]

Here is a (and possibly eagerly awaited) modded version of BIOS 1403 for the P5Q Deluxe. No updates for any other boards as Asus haven't released any, I keep checking various FTPs and a few other places, nada. Perhaps truehighroller can ask Asus when the other P5Q boards will get the updates the Deluxe has. (hint hint, nudge nudge :p: )

P5Q Dlx mBIOS 1403 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SCFMODTY)


In 1402 you use Maximus Formula Memory table and in 1403 you use P5Q Premium memory table. What's the difference if any ? and why did you revert back to P5Q Dlx memory table ?

[YMAA]

What changes did you make to the stock bios to make this new one? Your modded 1402 is pretty good, is it worth switching to the new one?

[truehighroller]

Here is a (and possibly eagerly awaited) modded version of BIOS 1403 for the P5Q Deluxe. No updates for any other boards as Asus haven't released any, I keep checking various FTPs and a few other places, nada. Perhaps truehighroller can ask Asus when the other P5Q boards will get the updates the Deluxe has. (hint hint, nudge nudge :p: )

P5Q Dlx mBIOS 1403 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SCFMODTY)

My bad I didn't see you posted this. I bet it kicks ass :cool: . I just wishhhhhh I could run it my self. I will try to sweet talk my connection.

[beast200]

Hi

using your 1403m bios for the p5q dlx
working fine
has more optons than the auas 1302
good work

cheers

[Ket]

In 1402 you use Maximus Formula Memory table and in 1403 you use P5Q Premium memory table. What's the difference if any ? and why did you revert back to P5Q Dlx memory table ?

I went back to the Premium memory table for its versatility. I was just testing out the M2F table, working on theory that it should be able to clock memory better.. turns out with later BIOS revisions the P5Q Premium memory table pisses all over the memory table from the M2F as it better supports, shall we say "our kind" of memory ;)


My bad I didn't see you posted this. I bet it kicks ass :cool: . I just wishhhhhh I could run it my self. I will try to sweet talk my connection.

Sweet :D


What changes did you make to the stock bios to make this new one? Your modded 1402 is pretty good, is it worth switching to the new one?

Every BIOS is subjective based on a persons hardware. Its probably worth a whirl, and if not, hey you haven't lost anything, just revery back to 1402 :cool:

[hema]

hi ket any chance to give us the p5q mbios with last options soon
I hope you have enough time to do it
you have a good work man

[Big Lar]

Hi Ket. I am kinda swimming in all these bios you have :) Is there a 1402M with the Premium Memory table or only the "MF" :D ??

Larry

[Ket]

The last Dlx BIOS to use a Premium memory table is 1306.

[Big Lar]

Thanks for the heads up :) I may try that 1 again soon. Very nice job with your Bios!

Larry

ps. You should start a fund for these.

[truehighroller]

I was thinking the same thing.

[Ket]

I got nothing against making money, but sadly I'm 99.99% certain I cant charge for my modded bioses or have a donations fund :(

[samsonJS]

I've heard about people getting legal threats once they start accepting donations for work like this. It's too bad that the companies & legal system only see the BIOS code being used but fail to acknowledge the time & effort you have added to make it that much better. It'd be nice to think "their loss!" and be done with it, but it's our loss too. :( I'm confident that one day we'll see companies embrace, or at least overlook, this sort of activity... which only bolsters the community around their products and helps them in the end anyway.

/rant

[Dashock]

I got nothing against making money, but sadly I'm 99.99% certain I cant charge for my modded bioses or have a donations fund :(

Im sure you will be rewarded for your efforts in good time i love your 1306m bios for my Asus P5q-E so i cant ask for anymore nor should I.

[CryptiK]

Making a new post so its seperate from the regular mBIOS stuff. I decided I would have a go at adding some interesting stuff to the P5Q Dlx and P5Q Pro BIOS (these 2 are the most downloaded, hence why I'm just doing these 2 for now)

Heres the options I will be attempting to add;

CPU GTL ref 1...3 (all P5Q boards have 0)
NB GTL ref
NB DDR2 ref
DDR2 channel A&B ref voltage
DRAM clock skew A1\2 & B1\2

In total thats 9 extra options.

Am I missing any potentially useful options from that list?

Excellent. I'd like to see Dram drive strength in there too but that's probably just a pipe dream, as it is not in any Asus bioses.

On that note, is there any way you can tell me what the option 'Memory OC Charger' actually does from examining the bios? I had a theory it was drive strength but no one knows what it does. On my M2F it makes a massive difference in overclocking the ram. I'm very interested to find out.

Also, P5Q-Deluxe has GTL Ref 0/2 & 1/3 as two separate options. It would be nice if they could be unlinked giving four separate settings like in the M2F bios. P5Q-Deluxe has NB GTL Ref setting and Dram clock skews too. The other boards (P5Q-E/pro etc), may not have them though. NB DDR2 ref and DDR2 channel A&B ref voltage would be nice options to have in P5Q-Deluxe.

Excellent work mate, you are making a big difference to a lot of people with all this :up:

[Ket]

I've heard about people getting legal threats once they start accepting donations for work like this. It's too bad that the companies & legal system only see the BIOS code being used but fail to acknowledge the time & effort you have added to make it that much better. It'd be nice to think "their loss!" and be done with it, but it's our loss too. :( I'm confident that one day we'll see companies embrace, or at least overlook, this sort of activity... which only bolsters the community around their products and helps them in the end anyway.

/rant

Saying that.. technically theres a loophole.. I could do something like "heres my if you like ket donations fund" Technically that way, I'm not accepting any money for the mBIOSes, people are donating money to me because they appreciate me, not directly linked with the mBIOSes. Legally it would also be in black and white people are winging donations in because they appreciate me, there wont be anything "on paper" that says its to do with the mBIOS :D

[FinnEire]

Saying that.. technically theres a loophole.. I could do something like "heres my if you like ket donations fund" Technically that way, I'm not accepting any money for the mBIOSes, people are donating money to me because they appreciate me, not directly linked with the mBIOSes. Legally it would also be in black and white people are winging donations in because they appreciate me, there wont be anything "on paper" that says its to do with the mBIOS :D


Now that you have publicly defined your "loophole" it may not work out so well. ;)

[xdan]

So, Ket when are you going to "release" :p: the new m bioses with all 9 plus option for P5Q-PRO, P5Q ?:confused:
I just thrilled to try a new bios with more overcloking option :yepp:
Thank you, Ket, and don't be sad, the future will recompensate you :up:

[angelreaper]

Here is a (and possibly eagerly awaited) modded version of BIOS 1403 for the P5Q Deluxe. No updates for any other boards as Asus haven't released any, I keep checking various FTPs and a few other places, nada. Perhaps truehighroller can ask Asus when the other P5Q boards will get the updates the Deluxe has. (hint hint, nudge nudge :p: )

P5Q Dlx mBIOS 1403 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SCFMODTY)

Thank you Ket:clap: