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irefan
08-26-2008, 04:47 AM
Hi,

I am considering the Foxconn Blackops board for an upgrade, can someone please clarify the issue below:

Is it possible just to install a a graphics card in the RED PCI-E slot only, as I have space restrictions in my case. I would be able to fit an X2 in the RED slot but not the BLUE one.

Thanks
Irefan

negev
08-26-2008, 07:16 AM
yep i have my video card in the red slot :)

irefan
08-26-2008, 07:22 AM
Thanks Negev.

Where about's are you based in UK, I'm from East London (Wanstead).

Xello
08-26-2008, 07:32 AM
Yep the blue and red PCI-e 2.0 slots are full x16 slots, while the white one at the bottom runs at x4 speed.

I'm in scotland myself :)

negev
08-27-2008, 12:21 AM
@irefan bromley :)

@xello och aye the noo son!

broller
08-27-2008, 01:11 AM
Yep the blue and red PCI-e 2.0 slots are full x16 slots, while the white one at the bottom runs at x4 speed.

I'm in scotland myself :)

hi how u managing with o/c i gave in with mine couldnt get stable with a qx9770 above 440 fsb + a lot of volts have another board here to review currently at 485 fsb prime stable 10 hours with 1.325 v and memory at 1900 puts the blackops to shame and only 1/2 the price:up:

negev
08-27-2008, 01:28 AM
After weeks and weeks of tweaking ive only just managed to get past 3.2 (400x8) with my Q9450. This board is crazy, the difference in voltage between 3.2 and 3.33ghz is insane;

3.2:

Vcore 1.275
Vdimm 1.94
NB 1.41

Everything else stock

3.33:

Vcore 1.35
Vdimm 2.13
VTT 1.42
PLL 1.61
SB 1.57
NB 1.61

Also memory timings loosened to 9-9-9-28 2T

Some of those settings can probably be reduced once i get it stable, but its crazy how it needs so much more NB voltage just for an extra 130mhz.

I'm still not sure whether this board is good or not, I think it might be just as good as other boards but much harder to work with, i.e.. needing to mess with clock skews and other stuff.. still reserving judgement until i finish tweaking

HDCHOPPER
08-27-2008, 01:33 AM
yall know the motto of foxconn right ?? ..... HAIL VOLTAGE ;)

negev
08-27-2008, 02:12 AM
It's hard to hail voltage when you only have air cooling, my northbridge fan was screaming at me all night long, had to wear earplugs to get to sleep!

Xello
08-27-2008, 02:27 AM
hi how u managing with o/c i gave in with mine couldnt get stable with a qx9770 above 440 fsb + a lot of volts have another board here to review currently at 485 fsb prime stable 10 hours with 1.325 v and memory at 1900 puts the blackops to shame and only 1/2 the price:up:

I'm stable at 8.5x 450fsb, 1.58v on the nb with gtl +5. Nb gtl needs raising with clock for me, +3 needed for 435 fsb. Next push is for 455 fsb, but i'm topping out my memory here as that'll put it at 1820mhz and the dimms are mid range 2x2gb 1600mhz kit.

Very happy so far :)

negev
08-27-2008, 03:25 AM
I still can't get past 3.2, my 3.33 bs'd at about 7 hours, just tried the intel burn test at that speed and it shutdown within 30 seconds due to the cpu hitting 65C (configured in bios for safety).

I think 3.2 is a hard wall for me until i get water, NB seems to be the key, my nb reaches 65C under load at 1.6v with the 40mm fan going full pelt, but thats obviously too hot.

Xello
08-29-2008, 11:09 AM
I still can't get past 3.2, my 3.33 bs'd at about 7 hours, just tried the intel burn test at that speed and it shutdown within 30 seconds due to the cpu hitting 65C (configured in bios for safety).

I think 3.2 is a hard wall for me until i get water, NB seems to be the key, my nb reaches 65C under load at 1.6v with the 40mm fan going full pelt, but thats obviously too hot.

I suggest using prime95. I've been using it for this system and it's proven to be a reliable indicator of stability. One of my settings which is 23hr+ stable on prime failed the IntelBurnTest program, so i wouldn't bother with it. I'm not sure what kind of stability you need for it, but it's probably more along the lines of enterprise reliability requirements.

It's down to the user, but for me prime stable = stable system. Prime also stresses your cpu over an extended period of time (20hr+ i prefer for final settings), which is a factor to consider versus the 8 minutes~ that the burn test program takes.

65c NB!!! Holy hell.. So far in my experience with this board you want to be aiming for 50-55c max load temps for the nb. I've had prime running all night (on hot nights..) at times with averages in that area, completely stable.

RAYTTK
08-30-2008, 11:41 PM
Xello hello again, what thoughts have you on this, I have been using prime95 v256 on my Q9450 and found it to be a great tool to test stability managed 3.3 24hr stable. Yesterday i recieved a QX6850 i bought from ebay and the first OC was 9 x 400 3.6 run prime and within a few minutes thread 3 failed, upped the vcore and thread 2 failed so i got worried BAD CHIP so i go default settings thread 3 fails, there are loads of variables here but im thinking i will send it back , I get up this morning and its not failed run 6 hours at 3.3 Do you think it could be a duffer ?

Xello
08-31-2008, 05:50 AM
Xello hello again, what thoughts have you on this, I have been using prime95 v256 on my Q9450 and found it to be a great tool to test stability managed 3.3 24hr stable. Yesterday i recieved a QX6850 i bought from ebay and the first OC was 9 x 400 3.6 run prime and within a few minutes thread 3 failed, upped the vcore and thread 2 failed so i got worried BAD CHIP so i go default settings thread 3 fails, there are loads of variables here but im thinking i will send it back , I get up this morning and its not failed run 6 hours at 3.3 Do you think it could be a duffer ?

Well what i've noticed is that even if specific or random cores are dropping in prime it doesn't necessarily mean that the setting you need to tweak is a CPU one - it could very well be NB voltage and GTL, RAM voltage and CPU gtl's. I've had to spend weeks to figure out what setting needs what tweaks, the board can really take a large chunk of your time to get it the way you want.