View Full Version : Whats a cool addition to your loop?
Bojamijams
08-16-2008, 12:26 PM
I'm about to redo my loop when I get back from my overextended business trip so I want to squeeze in as many upgrades in one go as I can.
I've purchased some compression fittings, a drain valve, some 90deg rotaries and some cables to streamline my TJ07. But..
I'm itching to buy more.
And I don't wanna replace blocks, but looking for an cool upgrade to the water cooling that will help / make it look better. Not necessarily BLINGY, just.. improve it.
Whats something you bought recently that you found made your overall loop/case look/perform better?
NaeKuh
08-16-2008, 01:01 PM
Needed additions once you graduated from noobie status.
1. Temp Probes.
2. Should of learned about drains and drain lines.
D-Cyph3r
08-16-2008, 01:08 PM
Simple loops are the best ones imo.
I'm about to rebuild all my loops and make the change from 1/2" ID to 7/16" ID. No more ugly wormdrives. ;)
Eddie3dfx
08-16-2008, 01:13 PM
Temp Probes, Auto Adjust, Rpm and temp monitoring + logging = Aqua computer aquerero
Bojamijams
08-16-2008, 01:29 PM
Hmmm.. but I need extensions for the Aquaro to be able to do a shutdown in case temperature gets to a certain range right? It can't do this out of the box I heard.
Bojamijams
08-16-2008, 01:46 PM
Needed additions once you graduated from noobie status.
1. Temp Probes.
2. Should of learned about drains and drain lines.
Hindsight is always 20/20 :)
alacheesu
08-16-2008, 01:54 PM
Hmmm.. but I need extensions for the Aquaro to be able to do a shutdown in case temperature gets to a certain range right? It can't do this out of the box I heard.
I think you need this (http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shop-index.htm?http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shopsystem/product_info.php?cPath=46_213_432&products_id=1629&osCsid=4d7b825d20586f1f9e2b6b659578d32f) and this (http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shop-index.htm?http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shopsystem/product_info.php?cPath=46_213_432&products_id=1153&osCsid=4d7b825d20586f1f9e2b6b659578d32f). Around $10 or so.
Eddie3dfx
08-16-2008, 01:57 PM
There is a pump controller on there too but maybe you can hack it for a ddc/d5 :)
Waste of time. Step up radiators, step up fans, step up pumps. Gun for the gold medal.
Temp probe? How about a blood pressure monitor for your heart as well? Or a thermometer for where the sun doesn't shine?
aspire.comptech
08-16-2008, 05:53 PM
Waste of time.
Temp probe? How about a blood pressure monitor for your heart as well? Or a thermometer for where the sun doesn't shine?
Well that was friendly... :hm:
Use one of these instead of a 90 lol
http://www.petrastechshop.com/viviflinbl.html
Eddie3dfx
08-16-2008, 06:14 PM
You know thats a flow indicator, not a flow meter.
The wire doesn't connect to any usb or go into a sensor, it's purely a light. Very nice looking and cool, but $90 for that????/
:eek:
thought it had an rpm sensor in it, guess not lol
Herc130
08-16-2008, 06:53 PM
Not watercooling, but if you haven't already done it, get a molex removal tool, dykes, heat shrink, some cable sleeves, adel clamps and http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=60_188 and custom fit all your cables and not just tape off/hide behind the mobo panel. Maybe even get one of these
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=23349 if you it will help you make things more tidy.
majestik
08-16-2008, 07:06 PM
An extra radiator is always a cool addition!
Or a thermometer for where the sun doesn't shine?
Now that you mention it....
iadstudio
08-16-2008, 07:12 PM
Waste of time. Step up radiators, step up fans, step up pumps. Gun for the gold medal.
Temp probe? How about a blood pressure monitor for your heart as well? Or a thermometer for where the sun doesn't shine?
I kinda' agree here. Temp probes are useless imo. Make sure your pump and rads are top notch otherwise it's not worth upgrading other stuff. A drain is always helpful, I'll be adding one of those and a new res soon.
Sorry if my language is too strong.
I nevertheless got the message across. You can pile on a million Aqueros and MCubes. They won't do tuppence for your water cooling effectiveness. Dittos for sleeving and all that other nonsense.
You can't ever have enough pure radiator power.
YugenM
08-16-2008, 07:33 PM
I replaced the G1/4 plug on my reservoir with a ball valve, and my life got a whole lot easier.
aspire.comptech
08-16-2008, 07:33 PM
You can't ever have enough pure radiator power.
When your load temp is your ambient, thats when you have enough. :up:
errorhead
08-16-2008, 07:46 PM
I use the AC flow sensor with aquatream/aquerero. Works with the miniNG too I think.
No, the aquerero wont do anything for the temps, but I think it makes the system more dynamic.
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sharka-computers_2014_14778205
Zaskar
08-16-2008, 08:09 PM
Waste of time. Step up radiators, step up fans, step up pumps. Gun for the gold medal.
Temp probe? How about a blood pressure monitor for your heart as well? Or a thermometer for where the sun doesn't shine?
Yea or a thermometer when your sick or a air pressure gauge for your tires or a speedometer for your car.
Was that quote supposed to mean something?
Bojamijams
08-16-2008, 08:11 PM
I already got the BIX 480GT so I don't think I can upgrade that.... I was thinking a NB block too but with nehalem the NB will be very cool me thinks. Maybe just a mosfet block at that point.. hmmm.
roofsniper
08-16-2008, 08:25 PM
I was thinking a NB block too but with nehalem the NB will be very cool me thinks.
should be, i have the 790fx northbridge and after nehalem amd's and intel's northbridges will be doing similar tasks. my northbridge has no cooling at all and i can game all day and when im done its still cool enough to touch. a northbridge block probualy wouldn't be needed if you are thinking longterm.
When your load temp is your ambient, thats when you have enough. :up:
I would invite you to show me a system.. any system.. with a conventional liquid cooling that produces load on all cores at ambient temp.. with a zero ambient air to core temp delta.
I already got the BIX 480GT so I don't think I can upgrade that.... I was thinking a NB block too but with nehalem the NB will be very cool me thinks. Maybe just a mosfet block at that point.. hmmm.
A BI 480GTX for the cpu, or that radiator for everything? A single 480 isn't exactly the pinnacle. R3 has two PAs for just his cpu.
Bojamijams
08-16-2008, 08:50 PM
A BI 480GTX for the cpu, or that radiator for everything? A single 480 isn't exactly the pinnacle. R3 has two PAs for just his cpu.
I'm pretty sure thats overkill. I doubt the CPU can put out that much heat to require two separate radiators.
Right now its a single BIX 480GT with an E7200 and 2x 8800GT and it makes no diff if my fans are 7v or 12v because the fan is so oversized for the heat dump these produce.
Its your choice dude. I'm just outlining the possibilities.
The more radiator capacity you have, the higher your ability to go silent on the fans, and the closer you get to ambient, even if its just one degree C gained. Dittos for loop flow.
Its your call because its your money.
I use the AC flow sensor with aquatream/aquerero. Works with the miniNG too I think.
No, the aquerero wont do anything for the temps, but I think it makes the system more dynamic.
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sharka-computers_2014_14778205
Juk... no. It will do something for the temps.... hurt them. That thing is massivly restrictive.
IanY! Where is the hammer?
eXa,
Fire up the trash compactor!
MomijiTMO
08-16-2008, 10:49 PM
I thought IanY would die reading this thread but I was wrong.
Get a new case and play with that. If you must improve your loop, parallel pumps and more rads are the way to go.
Waterlogged
08-17-2008, 12:51 AM
Waste of time. Step up radiators, step up fans, step up pumps. Gun for the gold medal.
Temp probe? How about a blood pressure monitor for your heart as well? Or a thermometer for where the sun doesn't shine?
:rofl: :up:
Boj, less is more.
Bojamijams
08-17-2008, 05:27 AM
Hmmm you're right.
Got a TJ07 recently so I'm happy with the case. If anything, I'll just wait to get this baby powdercoatet or what murdermod.com will have for sale when it goes live.
errorhead
08-17-2008, 07:13 AM
Juk... no. It will do something for the temps.... hurt them. That thing is massivly restrictive.
IanY! Where is the hammer?
I know its restrictive, but I can't see it has "hurt" my temps in my small loop though..
Conumdrum
08-17-2008, 07:28 AM
I would invite you to show me a system.. any system.. with a conventional liquid cooling that produces load on all cores at ambient temp.. with a zero ambient air to core temp delta.
LOL! I can for the first 500 ms, then it's all down to the size and ability of the cooling system. You win. Your not a bling guy as I am. But once the cooling is done, then it's off to the pretty case and wires etc.
I don't worry about such things as pretty. To explain, here is my setup.....
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg49/Conumdrum_2007/NekkidPCWCcopperloopresizefar.jpg
Xilikon
08-17-2008, 07:40 AM
After reconsidering my priorities recently, my take on this is :
1- Get bigger radiators or improve pumps.
or
2- Divide the loop in 2 or more to cool the CPU/GPU/chipsets separately.
or
3- Find another challenge and build another setup like I did with the HTPC.
Skip on flowmeters, temp probes, etc... While it's nice to know what your setup do, you will get bored and it become a waste. I don't even plug my 2 SF800 anymore since the mobo doesn't support tight and I don't feel like buying a mCubed product just for it. Hopefully, I got both flowmeters for free (thanks Dirk of Swissflow) so it's not really a waste, just a nice experiment for my personnal knowledge. Even on my HTPC loop, I put 2 temp sensors only since the Kaze Master provide them as extra that I'm using to watch case ambient and air out temp.
I'm with IanY on this ;)
Bojamijams
08-17-2008, 08:57 AM
I think I will indeed split the loop when I do my next upgrade. I'm wondering what kind of heat dump the nehalems will produce. I may keep the BIX 480GT for cooling two video cards since these new GPUs are generating a lot of heat and put a 120.2 on top of the TJ07 for cooling just the nehalem.
Btw.. anyone HAVE any info on the heat dump by the nehalems? I figure since the memory controller is on the chip it'll get hotter. I wonder if removing the IHS for lower temps will be an option with the nehalems.
The only rads that will fit on top of a TJ07 are slim ones, like the MCR220 and the BI Stealth. A PA120.2 absolutely won't fit up there.
I don't know about the Nehalem, but plan for at least 200 watts overclocked, if not 230 watts.
Bojamijams
08-17-2008, 10:31 AM
The only rads that will fit on top of a TJ07 are slim ones, like the MCR220 and the BI Stealth. A PA120.2 absolutely won't fit up there.
I don't know about the Nehalem, but plan for at least 200 watts overclocked, if not 230 watts.
Good to know. Thanks.