1st Project - Stacker 810 Loop

[adrift02]

After getting some help from the guys (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3197133#post3197133) I purchased my parts and am awaiting the shipment.

This will be my first WC build and I will be using the parts in my sig. I will be cooling my e6600 and my 4850 for now with possibly another 4850 down the road.

Part List -

D-tek Fuzion V2
Swiftech MCW60-R VGA cooler
Swiftech MC21 Aluminum MOSFET Heatsinks - 4 pack
Swiftech MC14 VGA Forged Copper Ramsinks
Swiftech MCR320-QP-K Triple 120mm Radiator
Swiftech MCP 355 12v DC Pump
XSPC - Acrylic Reservoir for Laing DDC
Tygon R-3603 1/2" ID 5/8" OD Chemical Tubing
Dangerden Silver Compression Fitting - 1/2" to 5/8" x8
Bitspower 1/4" NPSM To G1/4 Adapter Ring w/ O-ring x2
Feser One Non Conductive Cooling Fluid - 1000 ml - UV Blue
Dangerden Fill Syringe

Currently I am using air (duh :p:) with my e6600 being cooled by an SI-120.
I get great temps for the e6600 using this setup:

e6600 @3.0/1.35v

Idle:
ext - 25,26
core1 - 41,42
core2 - 41,42

Load (prime orthos small fft 7 hours):
ext - 43
core1 - 55
core2 - 55

Honestly, I am not convinced I will get much improvement from water as my temps are already very good, but I do except the ability to push the voltage and OC more while maintaining similar temps.

The 4850 is using the stock cooler and while my temperatures are average for the card, I expect huge improvements with water. Hopefully, I don't run into the problem some others have had where the vrm's are still toasty.

4850 @700/1100 1.2v 60% (ATI Tool 3d view ~2 hours)
Idle:
GPUZ - 48,55,44

Load:
GPUZ - 92,106,92

I should get some of my parts by Friday, and the rest the following Tuesday. I will post pics and keep this thread updated, comments and critique appreciated!

Random Pics of Current Air setup (side/front intake, back exhaust, ram/cpu fans).

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So, I now have all of my parts. I got the rad cleaned out with boiling distilled and cleaned the mcw60 with vinegar+distilled. Unfortunately, I ended up having issues with some of the parts I ordered. The tubing I ordered is just too thin. It's 1/2-5/8 and this crap kinks like crazy. I will just have to work with it when installing, but I will be ordering some coils tomorrow which I hope will help with the bends. My biggest issue is the compression fittings I ordered. They are too large for the mcw60 (the pic shown failed the leak test as the fittings were too big to seal properly) AND the dtek fuzion v2. I didn't want to wait a week for new fittings so I went to home depot, got a metal file, and got to work. Six hours and a few cuts later I managed to get the fittings small enough to fit. That's about as far as I have got. I did hook up the loop for a quick leak test and the sanded fittings seemed to be fine (only had two done at that point). Now that all four fittings are ready I will hook up the loop again (outside the case) for a quickie leak test and then install. Update tomorrow.

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Pics....

[roofsniper]

wow those barbs look really nice on the block. great job :up:

[majestik]

You made those fittings look AWESOME.

[MomijiTMO]

Yeah unfortunately the fittings need to be filled to fit on the block. You did a good job on them!

[adrift02]

Well, first bleed test didn't go well. I couldn't get the MCW60 to not leak. Seems like the DD fittings don't screw in deep enough (outer rim of the fitting is flush with the outer mcw60 holes) to compress the gasket. Switched em out for the d-teks that came with the fuzion and am currently bleeding with no problems. XSPC res top bled the loop in like 10 minutes....nice.

Later tonight I am either going to gut my case and setup a loop unmounted for more testing or just mount my blocks and setup for the final test...what would you guys do?

[ls206]

aww not keeping the fittings on the gpu block?

[adrift02]

Believe me, I'm annoyed I wasted 3 hours filing those two down. I tried switching in the ones on that are working on the dtek and tried rescrewing them (like I said they were flush with the plastic) but no matter what water would leak out between the plastic and fitting. The threading is pretty deep in the mcw60 and normal barbs sink in between the outer plastic so I am assuming these dd's are just too fat to compress.

The funny thing is, after using those dtek fittings with zipties I almost want to just replace everything with fat boys and sell the remaining dd's. They are very annoying to unscrew after being tightened down.

[pika198]

nice setup +1

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So, I have made some progress and also run into some problems. I will split this into two posts.

Today I got the dtek fuzion installed onto my mobo. This thing was a breeze to install. At least once I got the si-120 backing off. That thing was a pain, I had to cut into the sides of the adhesive all around to get it to peel off. Once I was done I mounted the mobo into the case and then figured I would add in the rad and pump as well. I had already bought some velcro but then had the idea of mounting the rad onto the hdd cage. The only problem with this setup would be the heat dump from the rad, but hopefully the cool air being pulled in will compensate. After the cage+rad was in, I figured I might as well mount the pump on top of the cage. Again, hopefully the cool air being pulled in will compensate for the heatdump (pump was hot to touch even testing on the table).

Looking at the last pic, I don't like that bend from the dtek to the rad. Should I switch the tubing from the dtek into the other rad barb? I can't think of any other way to make it better...

Anyways, please comment on the half-done loop. Any problems you guys see?

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And now the problem. I ended up not having enough ramsinks for the 4850. Need four more for the vrms. Guess I get to wait a week to finish. It was suggested in the thread I started for this problem that I hack the stock cooler. However, I would rather have it for warranty purposes (yes taking it off voided it, but as long as I don't break anything and it dies on its own, ASUS can kiss my a**......EVGA FTW!).


Note: If you missed the post before this please check it out and comment on the half done loop, thanks!

[zanzabar]

nice bayerdynamics, did u decide what u are doing for your ram sinks

[adrift02]

I am ordering some ramsinks for them (http://www.petrastechshop.com/enbmpufocora1.html). I hate waiting :mad:

And yes, those dt770's are so nice. Never heard a better nade explosion :)

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Got all my parts! Woot! Currently I am letting my computer leak test overnight. Tomorrow will be the big day, hopefully I didn't break something, somehow :eek:.

Because I had to order more ramsinks I ordered four fatboys as well. Very nice barbs, I had a hell of a time getting the tubing off them and its 1/2 on 1/2. Ended up only using two on the mcw60 with zipties as I didn't want to discard those other two sanded DD compressions (too much hard work).

Also, I got some UV cathodes so hopefully the fluid is going to look sweet.

Oh one more thing, Petra's Tech Shop rules. Shipped in two days, got all the stuff in good packaging, and even got a free pen with a handwritten note saying thanks. Nothing big, but for me its those little things that count. Out of Jab-tech and frozencpu they were the best.

More Pics Tomorrow!

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So, the leaktest was successful and my rig is now complete! Routed most of my cables behind the mobo plate, put in some cathodes, and mounted a fan on the bottom of the case blowing up onto the 4850 ramsinks. After running atitool for a while I shut down and immediately felt the sinks, they were much cooler then without the fan. I didn't want to add another fan for the pump, so I cut the sticky pad which came with it into four pieces which allows air to still flow under and is keeping the pump much cooler to the touch.

Honestly, there should be a sticky saying in big bold capitals DON'T BUY SWIFTECH SINKS! These things are complete and utter crap. One by one I replaced them with the zalman low profiles (which haven't fallen off once). Unfortunately, I still had to use the swiftech mc21's and two of the ramsinks, and of course it took superglue to hold em on. I sure hope I didn't get the "revised" adhesive ones as they are still completely worthless.

Temps:

-----AIR-----

IDLE:
sys - 34

e6600 @3.0/1.35v
ext - 25,26
core1 - 42
core2 - 42

4850 @700/1100 60%
GPUZ - 48,48,55,44

LOAD:
sys - 36

e6600 @3.0/1.35v (orthos 7 hour smallfft)
ext - 43
core1 - 55
core2 - 55

e6600 @3.0/1.365v (Linpack x5)
ext- 50
core1 - 63
core2 - 63

4850 @700/1100 60%
GPUZ - 92,92,106,92


-----WATER-----

IDLE:
sys - 26

e6600 @2.4/1.3v
ext - 18
core1 - 30
core2 - 32

4850 @stock
GPUZ - 31,31,34,24

LOAD:

e6600 @2.4/1.3v (Linpack 5x)
ext - 34
core1 - 43
core2 - 43


4850 @stock (atitool)
GPUZ - 37,36,41,30


Sorry for the crappy format. Loving my new temps!!!

Next post I will include my temps at my previous overclocks and hopefully some picks of my rig in the dark with UV (camera sux). I am going to leaktest some more tonight (I know, I am paranoid) and I am still waiting to see if the two mc21's which are the only ones not superglued are going to fall before I put my soundcard back in. Thanks to everyone who helped me out, this was a fun project!

EDIT: Is it ok to touch the ramsinks on my 4850 while its running? Don't want to fry something....

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Temps at normal OC:

IDLE:
sys - 24

e6600 @3.0/1.365v
ext - 18
core1 - 30
core2 - 32

4850 @700/1100 1.2v
GPUZ - 30,30,33,23

LOAD:
sys - 24

e6600 @3.0/1.365v (linpackx5)
ext - 36
core1 - 47
core2 - 47

4850 @700/1100 1.2v
GPUZ - 35,35,40,28

Here are some shots at night. Sorry for the pics but this camera is worthless without a flash.

[IanY]

For the compressions to not leak, you needed to buy the NPSM to G-1/4 adapter from BP. Its sold at P-PCs.

[adrift02]

I need the adapter for all the compression fittings? I thought I only needed them for the rad bc its npsm. Arnt the rest of the threads already g1\4?

[drbhatti]

wow! that looks amazing with the UV!

[emuexport]

Looking at the last pic, I don't like that bend from the dtek to the rad. Should I switch the tubing from the dtek into the other rad barb? I can't think of any other way to make it better...

Anyways, please comment on the half-done loop. Any problems you guys see?

Sorry for the late comment on your loop question. But here is my answer. ;)

Why not swap the outlet on your MCR320 to the left side into the XSPC res-pump and have the DTEK outlet go to the right side of the MCR320.

The other question is wouldn't you be better going to the CPU first instead of after the GPUs dumped its heat in the loop? I understand why because of the pump outlet etc just wondering really.

Cheers,
emu

[adrift02]

wow! that looks amazing with the UV!

Thanks!


Sorry for the late comment on your loop question. But here is my answer. ;)

Why not swap the outlet on your MCR320 to the left side into the XSPC res-pump and have the DTEK outlet go to the right side of the MCR320.

The other question is wouldn't you be better going to the CPU first instead of after the GPUs dumped its heat in the loop? I understand why because of the pump outlet etc just wondering really.

Cheers,
emu

I agree with your first suggestion on switching the mcr320 in/out. And yes, the gpu to cpu just seemed easiest. Once I get some adapters for the mcw60 I will also trim/switch the tubing while it's drained.