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mascaras
08-11-2008, 06:58 AM
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PowerColor, established by Tul Corporation in 1997, is a graphics industry leading brand name now and well known for its outstanding performance and innovative technology. As a leading provider of graphics card, PowerColor offers powerful, reliable and cost-effective solutions to customers worldwide.

PowerColor is the platform of choice for avid PC gamers and video prosumers looking to get the best possible performance out of the latest graphics processors from ATI.


PowerColor graphics cards won at least 10 awards every month in 2004 from the world's most respected IT media and organizations. Furthermore, several PowerColor products also received 2005 Taiwan Symbol of Excellence Award from the Ministry of Economic Affairs of the R.O.C. according to the following criteria: Design and Innovation, Quality System, Market, and Brand Awareness. This award represents some of the most revolutionary, high tech, high quality, and high value products in the market.


More about powercolor & Products >> Powercolor Technologies (http://www.powercolor.com/Global)








Powercolor HD4870X2 2GB GDDR5


http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5430/imagebsmx3.jpg










Specs


http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2970/specs22uq6.jpg








R700 Interconnect Architecture



http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1106/radeonhd4870x2fy1535023zn1.png.....http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2451/radeonhd4870x2f41534723im0.png








Features



# 1.912 billion processors (956 million transistors per GPU on 55nm fabrication process)
# PCI Express 2.0 x16 bus interface
# 256-bit + 256 bit GDDR5 memory interface
# MicrosoftR DirectXR 10.1 support
# ShaderModel 4.1
# Unified Superscalar Shader Architecture
# 1600 stream processing units
# Dynamic Geometry Acceleration


# Anti-aliasing features

* Multi-sample anti-aliasing (2, 4, or 8 samples per pixel)
* Up to 24x Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing (CFAA) for improved quality
* Adaptive super-sampling and multi-sampling
* Gamma correct
* Super AA (ATI CrossFireXTMconfigurations only)
* All anti-aliasing features compatible with HDR renderin


# Texture filtering features

* 2x/4x/8x/16x high quality adaptive anisotropic filtering modes (up to 128 taps per pixel)
* 128-bit floating point HDR texture filtering
* sRGB filtering (gamma/degamma)
* Percentage Closer Filtering (PCF)
* Depth & stencil texture (DST) format support
* Shared exponent HDR (RGBE 9:9:9:5) texture format support


# OpenGL 2.0 support

# ATI AvivoTMHD Video and Display Platform1

* 2nd generation Unified Video Decoder (UVD 2)
* Enabling hardware decode acceleration of H.264, VC-1 and MPEG-2
* Dual stream playback (or Picture-in-picture)

# Hardware MPEG-1, and DivXvideo decode acceleration
#ATI AvivoVideo Post Processor1
# Two independent display controllers
# Two integrated DVI display outputs
# Two integrated 400MHz 30-bit RAMDACs
# HDMI output support
# Integrated AMD XilleonTMHDTV encoder
# MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, WMV9, VC-1, and H.264/AVC encoding and transcoding
# Seamless integration of pixel shaderswith video in real time
# VGA mode support on all display outputs


# ATI PowerPlayTM Technology4
* Advanced power management technology for optimal performance and power savings
* Performance-on-Demand
* Constantly monitors GPU activity, dynamically adjusting clocks and voltage based on user scenario
* Clock and memory speed throttling
* Voltage switching
* Dynamic clock gating


# Dual Mode ATI CrossFireXTM Multi-GPU Technology

* Scale up rendering performance and image quality with up to fourGPUs
* Integrated compositing engine
* High performance bridge interconnect








Photos



http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8625/68948119bv3.jpg


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http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/149/70901790eq9.jpg


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Bundle


(from Guru3d)

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1821/bundleyy6.jpg


* Radeon HD 4870 X2
* Manual
* Driver CD + Cyberlink PowerDVD
* Crossfire connector
* CRT-DVI dongle
* DVI-HDMI dongle
* 3-way RCA analog component cable
* SVIDEO / Composite dongle
* 6-pin to 8-pin power converter (1x)





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GPU-Z Inf.


http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9760/gpu4x2to3.jpg




R700 , HD4870 & GTX280 Specs

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6928/specsnovasqk7.jpg



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Test Bed Config


E8400@4Ghz
Powercolor HD4870X2
ASUS P5E X38
4GB Gskill 8000PQ
Corsair TX750W
Samsung F1 750GB
Windows Vista 64bit +Sp1
Catalyst 8.8 Beta








Temps


http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2087/heatsinkscfduv8pv1.gif












Fan Speed Auto (27%)

Ambient Temp : ~25º
GPU Idle Temp : 61º
GPU Full Temp : 73º




Idle

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2945/idletempsyt8.jpg


Full

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/3302/full88nd6.jpg



Recording Temps with AMDGpuTool while playing , the temps reach around 80º - 85º with Automatic Fan Speed !

The Fan in automatic speed is not noisy , only if we set the fan speed manually !

The noise is pretty much the same as HD4870 512Mb GDDR5 !




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mascaras
08-11-2008, 06:59 AM
Benchmarks




Crysis 1.2.1 Benchmark


http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3964/bench222ev7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)







Crysis DX10




System

E8400 @ 4.0Ghz
Powercolor HD4870X2 Default
ASUS P5E X38
2x2GB Gskill 8000PQ
Catalyst 8.8 Beta
Corsair TX750W
Samsung F1 750GB
Windows Vista 64bit +SP1





1680x1050 - Very High Settings


http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8595/very88xl7.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=very88xl7.jpg)


Minimum : 24.66 Fps
Maximum : 51.75 Fps
Average : 39.6 Fps






1680x1050 - Very High Settings + AA x2


http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8347/1680aax2kl0.th.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1680aax2kl0.jpg)



Minimum : 23.14 Fps
Maximum : 48.14 Fps
Average : 37.46 Fps







1680x1050 - Very High Settings + AA x4


http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/557/1680aax4ga8.th.jpg (http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1680aax4ga8.jpg)




Minimum : 23.10 Fps
Maximum : 45. Fps
Average : 36 Fps




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1900x1200 - High Settings



http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7843/1900x120088wb5.th.jpg (http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1900x120088wb5.jpg)



Minimum : 29.63 Fps
Maximum : 73.9 Fps
Average : 48 Fps







1900x1200 - Very High Settings



http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/1784/1900veryre5.th.jpg (http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1900veryre5.jpg)



Minimum : 23.76 Fps
Maximum : 43.9 Fps
Average : 36 Fps





1900x1200 - Very High Settings + AA 4x



http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3650/1920aax4mm3.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1920aax4mm3.jpg)



Minimum : 21.5 Fps
Maximum : 38.2 Fps
Average : 32 Fps







All Results :


http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/9582/graph3ls1.jpg

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http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1976/graph4rf2.jpg








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3DMark 2006


http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8941/2k6logolq7.jpg





System

E8400 @ 4.0Ghz
Powercolor HD4870X2 Default
ASUS P5E X38
2x2GB Gskill 8000PQ
Corsair TX750W
Samsung F1 750GB
Windows Vista 64bit +SP1
Catalyst 8.8 beta






http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3623/2k64870x2eo5.jpg


19877 Marks






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3DMark Vantage


http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/123/vantageln2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)






System


E8400 @ 4.0Ghz
Powercolor HD4870X2 Default
ASUS P5E X38
2x2GB Gskill 8000PQ
Corsair TX750W
Samsung F1 750GB
Windows Vista 64bit +SP1
Catalyst 8.8 beta





Performance


http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4342/performence4870x2fc0.jpg





P12458 Marks








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Xtreme


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8637/xtreme4870x2pr2.jpg




X7189 Marks



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mascaras
08-11-2008, 07:00 AM
Games



Crysis 1.2.1 Single Player


http://www.infortech.eu/analises/hd3870/Crysis.jpg







System

E8400@4Ghz
Powercolor HD4870X2
ASUS P5E X38
4GB Gskill 8000PQ
Catalyst 8.8 Beta
Corsair TX750W
Samsung F1 750GB
Windows Vista 64bit +Sp1


1680x1050
Very High
Anti-aliasing X4



Settings

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http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/277/c18xq8.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c18xq8.jpg)http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/6130/c19sa8.th.jpg (http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c19sa8.jpg)http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5584/c20dq7.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c20dq7.jpg)http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7127/c21wz4.th.jpg (http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c21wz4.jpg)


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http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2082/47360721jv7.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=47360721jv7.jpg)http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7302/g3pu8.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g3pu8.jpg)http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8867/g2yi9.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g2yi9.jpg)http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6899/g4tz2.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g4tz2.jpg)



http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9991/g5eo5.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g5eo5.jpg)http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3047/g6cz2.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g6cz2.jpg)http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6901/g7wa3.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g7wa3.jpg)http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1416/g8wt3.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g8wt3.jpg)



http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4243/b1sb6.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b1sb6.jpg)http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4416/b2mt1.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b2mt1.jpg)http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6157/b3ex4.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b3ex4.jpg)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9821/b4bc4.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b4bc4.jpg)http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5038/b5qi7.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b5qi7.jpg)http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4491/b6mh2.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b6mh2.jpg)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7154/b7ay3.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b7ay3.jpg)http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7389/b8rg9.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b8rg9.jpg)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9200/b9lf6.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b9lf6.jpg)http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2976/b10sv5.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b10sv5.jpg)






I recorded Two Videos with Fraps ( few breaks when recording with Fraps) :

1680x1050
Very High
AA x4 !


Download VIDEO 1 (http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=11424a6)

http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=17cf0c2] Download VIDEO 2 [/url]



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COD 4 Multiplayer


http://www.infortech.eu/analises/hd3870/COD4.jpg






System

E8400@4Ghz
Powercolor HD4870X2
ASUS P5E X38
4GB Gskill 8000PQ
Catalyst 8.8 Beta
Corsair TX750W
Samsung F1 750GB
Windows Vista 64bit +Sp1




1920x1200
High setings
AA 4x



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http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9143/w9sa7.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w9sa7.jpg)http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1306/w10zz1.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w10zz1.jpg)http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5818/w12gm6.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w12gm6.jpg)http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5904/w11nl1.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w11nl1.jpg)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5143/w13wm6.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w13wm6.jpg)http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4127/w14ad0.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w14ad0.jpg)http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6717/w15og8.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w15og8.jpg)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4281/w16cw1.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w16cw1.jpg)http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7724/w17zd2.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w17zd2.jpg)http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7336/w18nu2.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w18nu2.jpg)http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7122/w19rs1.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w19rs1.jpg)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2726/w20wv7.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w20wv7.jpg)http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1598/w21zr6.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w21zr6.jpg)http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3707/w22tx2.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w22tx2.jpg)http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7974/w23in9.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w23in9.jpg)

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Race Driver: Grid


http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7963/gridmo3.jpg





System


E8400@4Ghz
Powercolor HD4870X2
ASUS P5E X38
4GB Gskill 8000PQ
Catalyst 8.8 Beta
Corsair TX750W
Samsung F1 750GB
Windows Vista 64bit +Sp1



1920x1200
Ultra settings
AA 4x



Settings:

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http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4325/r18ii6.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r18ii6.jpg)http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/251/r19ds2.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r19ds2.jpg)http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6364/r20ev2.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r20ev2.jpg)http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3487/r21ss1.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r21ss1.jpg)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/608/r22fr6.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r22fr6.jpg)http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7823/r23mj4.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r23mj4.jpg)http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7365/r24pr0.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r24pr0.jpg)http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4539/r25pp3.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r25pp3.jpg)






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Assassins Creed DX10


http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1108/assop7.jpg






System

E8400@4Ghz
Powercolor HD4870X2
ASUS P5E X38
4GB Gskill 8000PQ
Catalyst 8.8 Beta
Corsair TX750W
Samsung F1 750GB
Windows Vista 64bit +Sp1



1920x1200
High setings
Multisampling 2/4



http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/8/13/t_c0m_86fdf57.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c0m_86fdf57.jpg&srv=img32)http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/3/8/13/t_c1m_1356cb7.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c1m_1356cb7.jpg&srv=img29)http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/8/13/t_c2m_64cf99b.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c2m_64cf99b.jpg&srv=img32)http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/3/8/13/t_c3m_94fde40.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c3m_94fde40.jpg&srv=img29)

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/3/8/13/t_c4m_a138df8.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c4m_a138df8.jpg&srv=img37)http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/3/8/13/t_c5m_be37181.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c5m_be37181.jpg&srv=img27)http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/3/8/13/t_c6m_cd4fd2a.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c6m_cd4fd2a.jpg&srv=img29)http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/3/8/13/t_c7m_53afe9c.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c7m_53afe9c.jpg&srv=img29)

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/8/13/t_c8m_85b5c9e.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c8m_85b5c9e.jpg&srv=img32)http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/3/8/13/t_c9m_8846c2c.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c9m_8846c2c.jpg&srv=img28)http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/3/8/13/t_c10m_6b1d135.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c10m_6b1d135.jpg&srv=img26)

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/3/8/13/t_c11m_d151663.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c11m_d151663.jpg&srv=img33)http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/8/13/t_c12m_0ea1bdd.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c12m_0ea1bdd.jpg&srv=img34)http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/3/8/13/t_c13m_27e9498.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c13m_27e9498.jpg&srv=img28)http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/8/13/t_c14m_1426a39.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c14m_1426a39.jpg&srv=img34)

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/8/13/t_c15m_8410f75.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c15m_8410f75.jpg&srv=img34)http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/3/8/13/t_c16m_b69c7c3.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c16m_b69c7c3.jpg&srv=img33)http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/3/8/13/t_c17m_a9f3703.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c17m_a9f3703.jpg&srv=img26)

http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/3/8/13/t_c18m_59c1d94.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c18m_59c1d94.jpg&srv=img27)http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/8/13/t_c19m_c5ca295.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c19m_c5ca295.jpg&srv=img32)http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/3/8/13/t_c20m_bc14bec.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/13/f_c20m_bc14bec.jpg&srv=img33)


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x0vash0x
08-11-2008, 07:08 AM
I hate you :shakes:

disruptfam
08-11-2008, 07:46 AM
nice!!!! any chance of some crossfire x action?

mascaras
08-11-2008, 08:20 AM
nice!!!! any chance of some crossfire x action?

unfortnatly i will only receive a HD4870X2 !


btw: a quick test in 2k6 of a friend mine with Q6600 @ 3200Mhz , 4870X2 default , Windows Vista


http://www.pcdiga.com/PCDIGA/Imagens/forum/4870X2_3dmark.jpg



:up:

WaterFlex
08-11-2008, 08:40 AM
mascaras
How much does it cost in your country?

mascaras
08-11-2008, 09:05 AM
mascaras
How much does it cost in your country?



Hi

Powercolor HD4870X2 2Gb GDDR5 = 439€ ( launch price )


best regards

freaksavior
08-11-2008, 09:07 AM
oh, im so jealious now. I've been wanting two of these or 1 of these and one 4870 (higher binned versioin)

chaos_being
08-11-2008, 09:20 AM
Oh nice, I'll be keeping an eye on this thread tomorrow :up:

WaterFlex
08-11-2008, 09:28 AM
439€ !!! OMG!!! :( too expensive...

WaterFlex
08-11-2008, 09:31 AM
mascaras, are u going to buy another one ? ;) This card is the best in the world

zlojack
08-11-2008, 09:34 AM
Definitely need to get in on this...

*Salivates*

mascaras
08-11-2008, 09:40 AM
mascaras, are u going to buy another one ? ;)

naaa , only one ( two cards = 880€) :p:


regards

Red Evil
08-11-2008, 09:42 AM
how does it overclock?

Brumi
08-11-2008, 11:02 AM
This card is so nice!

BNDMOD
08-11-2008, 11:33 AM
my god... too large :p

F.stop
08-11-2008, 11:40 AM
looks better than i thought :slobber:
one card will be enough for me i think

Astratuner
08-11-2008, 11:45 AM
damn you lucky bastard :D

eric66
08-11-2008, 11:57 AM
f_ckn beauty :) i am so glad that ati picked black color for this one nice change

junkun13
08-11-2008, 12:16 PM
Holy crap! thats expensive! :(

MomijiTMO
08-11-2008, 02:25 PM
Let the fun begin!

Thanks for giving us early testing as always.

iboomalot
08-11-2008, 04:53 PM
its the 12th in China

dr.noob
08-11-2008, 04:57 PM
Hey Mascaras, just waiting for the review, GL.

See you in Pcdiga:D

mascaras
08-12-2008, 03:18 AM
ok , just install the card

a quick crysis bench before start testing






1680x1050 VERY HIGH


http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1520/1680veryad5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)






1900x1200 HIGH

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9216/1900x12004870x2tg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


regards

AriciU
08-12-2008, 03:33 AM
That's a bit low for very high and Vista 64. I got ~40fps with the cpu clocked at ~4500Mhz (shouldn't make a 10fps difference). Are you using the 8.8 beta's ?

This is all based on 2 x 4870 = 4870x2 -> same performance. If not then sorry for intrerupting :)

disruptfam
08-12-2008, 03:34 AM
try 1920 x 1200 4aa @ cpu @ 4ghz ....

Mumid
08-12-2008, 03:36 AM
That's a bit low for very high and Vista 64. I got ~40fps with the cpu clocked at ~4500Mhz (shouldn't make a 10fps difference). Are you using the 8.8 beta's ?

This is all based on 2 x 4870 = 4870x2 -> same performance. If not then sorry for intrerupting :)

Agreed. I was getting 43fps with 2 x 4870, 4250mhz C2D cpu and 8.8 betas.

mascaras
08-12-2008, 03:47 AM
That's a bit low for very high and Vista 64. I got ~40fps with the cpu clocked at ~4500Mhz (shouldn't make a 10fps difference). Are you using the 8.8 beta's ?

This is all based on 2 x 4870 = 4870x2 -> same performance. If not then sorry for intrerupting :)

im using the catalyst driver pakage with card ( says 8.6)


http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6234/drivervu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)





i will try the 8.8 beta

any link to download???



edit: 8.8 beta are this ??? >>> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U7USVHPY



regards

Mumid
08-12-2008, 03:50 AM
im using the catalyst driver pakage with card ( says 8.6)

i will try the 8.8 beta

any link to download???



edit: 8.8 beta are this ??? >>> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U7USVHPY



regards

Here you go mate:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=197231

EDIT: Direct link for vista drivers http://www.files.to/get/347201/2f00xwmemt

Defo try those, they are loads better

mascaras
08-12-2008, 04:01 AM
Here you go mate:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=197231

EDIT: Direct link for vista drivers http://www.files.to/get/347201/2f00xwmemt

Defo try those, they are loads better


Downloading , thnks ! :up:


..

mascaras
08-12-2008, 04:25 AM
Now We’re Talking


1680x1050
Very High
Average = 40 FPS


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4116/very88dq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)





1900x1200
High
Average = 48 Fps


http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7408/1900x120088hm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)





:up:



...

y2kbos
08-12-2008, 04:40 AM
Those are the 8.80 beta scores?

Impressive, but 1680 x 1050 is too low, my overclocked GTX 260 with 3.60ghz Q9450 is very close to that.It needs 1920 X 1200 minimum.

If you get time could you test Tomb Raider Legend with next gen on, I would appreciate it very much.

Mumid
08-12-2008, 04:40 AM
Now We’re Talking

1680x1050
Very High
Average = 40 FPS

1900x1200
High
Average = 48 Fps

:up:

...

Nice one mate. Also try running with a higher fsb and mhz on the cpu if you can to try and remove as much bottlenecking as possible :up:

mascaras
08-12-2008, 04:59 AM
Those are the 8.80 beta scores?

Impressive, but 1680 x 1050 is too low, my overclocked GTX 260 with 3.60ghz Q9450 is very close to that. It needs 1920 X 1200 minimum.






hmmmm are you sure ????



i also have a GTX280



results in same system





GTX280 Default

1680x1050
Very High

Average = 27 fps ( overcloked = 29.4 fps)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2738/1680veryff9.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1680veryff9.jpg)

---------------------------------


1900x1200
High

Average = 39 fps (overcloked = 43.8 fps)

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6268/1920x1200highff2.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1920x1200highff2.jpg)










HD4870X2


1680x1050
Very High

Average = 40 fps (overcloked = not tested yet)


----------------------------------------------


1900x1200
High
Average = 48 fps (overcloked = not tested yet)


--------------------------

1900x1200
Very High

average = 36 fps (overcloked = not tested yet)







btw:


1 more crysis bench




HD4870X2 default
1900x1200
VERY High
Average = 36 Fps



http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7803/1900veryrb9.jpg

:up:

Trigger5521
08-12-2008, 05:20 AM
How loud is the fan underload? What are the load temps, some reports saying the 4870's are super hot.

OzJustin
08-12-2008, 05:38 AM
mascaras: Thanks for posting those results so far.
One final request with your Crysis benches. Can you run the same again with 16*AA and/or 16*QAA. The majority of reviewers are too scared to run Crysis with the AA & AF cranked up, though apparently that is where the 4870X2 really shines.
Try: Crysis DX10, Very High, 1920*1200, 16*QAA & AF and post up your results. There may be less of a performance hit than you think ;)

The ClubOverclocker review has been the best at testing the 4870X2 under AA so I'd be keen to see another impartial bench. Much appreciated :)
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/video/sapphire/hd4870x2_2GB/page7.asp

Unbornchild
08-12-2008, 06:21 AM
Mascaras: you should do the Assault_Harbor test, which is a complete system test. GPU test alone is not reflecting the game.

mascaras
08-12-2008, 06:38 AM
mascaras: Thanks for posting those results so far.
One final request with your Crysis benches. Can you run the same again with 16*AA and/or 16*QAA. The majority of reviewers are too scared to run Crysis with the AA & AF cranked up, though apparently that is where the 4870X2 really shines.
Try: Crysis DX10, Very High, 1920*1200, 16*QAA & AF and post up your results. There may be less of a performance hit than you think ;)





sure , i will be testing the card today and updating the thread !

:up:

disruptfam
08-12-2008, 06:46 AM
i've seen that anything under 1920 theres will be bottlenecking..

try 1920 and 2560... if possible very high 4aa 16 af

Cooper
08-12-2008, 07:14 AM
Any chance to post the test bed config in the first post ?

mascaras
08-12-2008, 08:45 AM
Any chance to post the test bed config in the first post ?

sure :up:


also added in first post >> crysis bench Very High and Very High + AA 4x


when finish all the tests i will post graphics with all the results :up:


best regards

Corehunter
08-12-2008, 11:18 AM
Mascaras, congratulations on the review so far!
Have you noticed any visible signs of microstuttering in Crysis at 1920x1200@very high with AA4x enabled or in any other tests?

mascaras
08-12-2008, 11:34 AM
Mascaras, congratulations on the review so far!
Have you noticed any visible signs of microstuttering in Crysis at 1920x1200@very high with AA4x enabled or in any other tests?


So far i only tested Crysis "in Game" with 1680x1050 @ Very High @ AA 4x


In Crysis has the usual breaks when Saving game or Big explosions/lot of action ( game runs pretty much like 9800GX2 ) not like the HD3870X2 or HD3870 CF when FPS drops from 40fps to 5/10fps , with 4870X2 there is no FPS drop like that !


regards

Jtrain43791
08-12-2008, 12:03 PM
personally i'd like to see some pics with the card in your rig, also do u have a pic side by side with GTX 280 i'd like to see a size comparison

mascaras
08-12-2008, 12:21 PM
personally i'd like to see some pics with the card in your rig, also do u have a pic side by side with GTX 280 i'd like to see a size comparison

sure , tomorow i take photos of system and also 4870X2 side by side with GTX280 !




btw: with cat 8.8 beta the temps are much lower :up:


auto fan (27%) , full temp = 73º


http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/3302/full88nd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




Manual fan speed @ 35%



Idle = 45º

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/6066/35ld1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)






Full = 53º





http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/44/full35nd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)





regards

Xello
08-12-2008, 02:03 PM
Nice report Mascaras :)

Crysis numbers are far above what some other sites posted, i wonder if a driver issue. IE Tweaktown report 2 x 4870x2 1920x1200 VH = 21fps.

cakofony
08-12-2008, 02:27 PM
From the pre-release demos i saw, this card didn't do too well in crysis against the 280 (I think the crysis engine is sloppily coded). Do you think you could run some cod4 tests, and maybe test fps on a source engine game for fun/high numbers?

I am really thinking about buying this card tonight.

mascaras
08-12-2008, 02:33 PM
From the pre-release demos i saw, this card didn't do too well in crysis against the 280 (I think the crysis engine is sloppily coded). Do you think you could run some cod4 tests, and maybe test fps on a source engine game for fun/high numbers?

I am really thinking about buying this card tonight.


cod4 added !


yes , i will also test HL2 episode Two , assassins creed , Grid !


Nice report Mascaras :)

Crysis numbers are far above what some other sites posted, i wonder if a driver issue. IE Tweaktown report 2 x 4870x2 1920x1200 VH = 21fps.


with catalyst CD Driver ( bundled with card) i also had "bad" performance , but then i installed catalyst 8.8 beta and its really better


1680x1050 Very High = 32 fps ( Catalyst CD driver)

1680x1050 Very High = 39.5 Fps ( Cat 8.8 beta)

1680x1050 Very High + AA 4x = 36 Fps ( cat 8.8 beta)



:up:

Dangals
08-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Awsome work Mascaras!!! I cannot wait to see some more results!

You dont happen to have a 4870 to run in Tri-fire do you?

RPGWiZaRD
08-12-2008, 03:14 PM
Thx for the testing. It's quite impressive how on 1680x1050 there's only minimal FPS drop going to AA4x and AA in Crysis makes it look like a whole new game, those screens are really nice. I thought u maybe used some texture mods at first but then I saw 4xAA... Too bad only a few cards can handle Crysis with AA. The temps are much better than I had expected. But I guess you're testing without a comp case as temps on ur GPU tests are always somewhat low so I'd expect for the average user it will prolly run slightly hotter but nice nonetheless.

mascaras
08-12-2008, 03:51 PM
i was thinking about temps too low while running atitool (very strange)

so i decided run AMDGPUTool which report temps while playing and with the right 3d clocks & Voltages !

i found that temps are higher compared with temps running Atitool (because atitool are running with 2D clocks & Voltages :yepp: )




Temps with AMDGPUTool



Automatic FAN (27%)
Playing Cod 4


ASIC Temperature via internal TSS [0] (C) = 93.5º (core0)
ASIC Temperature via internal TSS [1] (C) = 73.5º (core1)


MCLK(MHz)[0] = 900, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 750 ( memory/core 0 clocks )
MCLK(MHz)[1] = 900, SCLK(MHz)[1] = 750 ( memory/core 1 clocks )



----------------------------



Manual Fan Speed = 40%
Playing Grid


00:41:17

ASIC Temperature via internal TSS [0] (C) = 72º (core 0)
ASIC Temperature via internal TSS [1] (C) = 61.5º (core 1)

MCLK(MHz)[0] = 900,SCLK(MHz)[0] = 750 ( memory/core 0 clocks )
MCLK(MHz)[1] = 900 , SCLK(MHz)[1] = 750 ( memory/core 1 clocks )



:up:

cakofony
08-12-2008, 04:29 PM
Do you know if there is any microstuttering? I read a few reviews early on that said it was eliminated, then a friend (who is stuck in the step up program, thus biased) linked me to one that said it stutters. I realize it's almost impossible to completely eliminate micro-stuttering, it can be drastically minimized to an extent that the human eye cannot tell the difference. Does anybody know if they have they fixed it?

Xion X2
08-12-2008, 04:31 PM
Nice report Mascaras :)

Crysis numbers are far above what some other sites posted, i wonder if a driver issue. IE Tweaktown report 2 x 4870x2 1920x1200 VH = 21fps.

TweakTown was using a P45 which was choking for bandwidth. Not nearly enough to handle these beasts.

mascaras
08-12-2008, 04:40 PM
Do you know if there is any microstuttering? I read a few reviews early on that said it was eliminated, then a friend (who is stuck in the step up program, thus biased) linked me to one that said it stutters. I realize it's almost impossible to completely eliminate micro-stuttering, it can be drastically minimized to an extent that the human eye cannot tell the difference. Does anybody know if they have they fixed it?



only the usual mini breaks in crysis when Saving Game , Big explosions , etc , there is no stutering like 3870X2 @ Big FPS drops !


Grid runs OK

Cod4 runs OK



added Grid SS "in game"


regards

Dangals
08-12-2008, 04:56 PM
Not sure if you missed my earlier post Mascaras - but is there any chance that when you are done can you run some tests with a 4870 and the 4870x2 in trifire? (that is if you still have the 4870 you tested previously?)

thanks

cakofony
08-12-2008, 05:43 PM
You say a p45 chipset chokes this card? I dont understand how it could.

mascaras
08-12-2008, 06:33 PM
Not sure if you missed my earlier post Mascaras - but is there any chance that when you are done can you run some tests with a 4870 and the 4870x2 in trifire? (that is if you still have the 4870 you tested previously?)

thanks



i dont have 4870 anymore :(


more tests tomorow , already 3:30 AM here ! :up:


best regards



regards

zlojack
08-12-2008, 06:40 PM
TweakTown was using a P45 which was choking for bandwidth. Not nearly enough to handle these beasts.
Tweaktown also used a CPU at 3GHz while mascaras has his CPU at 4GHz

Xello
08-12-2008, 10:51 PM
The Tweaktown article claims to use a Gigabyte X48-DQ6, i guess it was the cpu.

mascaras
08-13-2008, 07:50 AM
Nice report Mascaras :)

Crysis numbers are far above what some other sites posted, i wonder if a driver issue. IE Tweaktown report 2 x 4870x2 1920x1200 VH = 21fps.

Like i suspected it looks like Crysis runs much better with AA in windows Vista then windows XP

>> http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f22/crysis-aa-performance-ati-hd4870x2-vs-nvidia-gtx-280-a-56778/


:up:


btw:

3dmark Vantage results in few minuts


regards

Slovnaft
08-13-2008, 08:34 AM
Tweaktown also used a CPU at 3GHz while mascaras has his CPU at 4GHz

woul cpu speed really affect his performance that much?

I could understand the effect of fsb speed, but at such high cpu clocks is it really going to be the cpu that's bottleneckign things?

Xello
08-13-2008, 08:36 AM
I notice now that Tweaktown used XP.

I thought 4 way crossfire and 4 way SLI didn't work in xp!


woul cpu speed really affect his performance that much?

I could understand the effect of fsb speed, but at such high cpu clocks is it really going to be the cpu that's bottleneckign things?

I believe that for quad sli and quad crossfire yes a 3ghz cpu is a bottleneck.

Slovnaft
08-13-2008, 08:43 AM
well, ok for quad interfaces yeah. but this is a singlecard crossfire...
oh yeah, i probably should've quoted a different post
i wasn't necessarily talking about the tweaktown review, i was talking about mascaras settings

mascaras
08-13-2008, 09:10 AM
Vantage and 3dmark 2006 Results Added !


:up:

mascaras
08-13-2008, 12:13 PM
I tried record 2 videos with Fraps , but i had to covert them to divx and image quality is not good

also recording with fraps while playing cause a litle breaks , however here they are

Crysis
1680x1050
Very High
AA 4x


http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=_tubC54CvO0

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=kdQZYi4MEQM





:up:

Aldy402
08-13-2008, 12:23 PM
possible to take off the fan + fan shroud while leaving the ram plates intact? if so, can you take a pic of that?

thanks

Astratuner
08-13-2008, 12:36 PM
sweet i cant wait!

mascaras
08-13-2008, 12:38 PM
possible to take off the fan + fan shroud while leaving the ram plates intact? if so, can you take a pic of that?

thanks


like we did with old HD2900XT to use single GPU waterblock right??

looking to the4870X2 cooler , i think is possible ! (not 100% sure) :up:


btw:


the 2 crysis videos @ full size window

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fw6g8v

http://www.sendspace.com/file/l12k1t


like i said before the image is bad because i had to convert them , the original files are 3Gb (each) :(




EDIT: Assassins Creed Added !


:up:

maxstep
08-13-2008, 02:52 PM
hey guys.
please help.
i got an engineering sample of 4870x2
the only driver that i managed to install is the one that I got with the videocard, but
its SO buggy that it renders the gpu practically unusable. (driver ver. 8.54-080811n-021649E-ATI)
when i tried to install sampleHD4800X2VISTA8-52-2 (normal 8.52) that is linked in this thread, installation worked perfectly,
but upon reboot, computer is not recognizing driver.
device manager states : "Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39)"
also the driver is _not_ digitall signed.
can that be the reason, or is it because I have an engineering sample?
please help(

gpu-z taken on 8.54 - http://img143.imagevenue.com/loc992/th_67582_gpuz_122_992lo.jpg (http://img143.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=67582_gpuz_122_992lo.jpg)
I've uploaded bios, someone told me that bios was patched and control sum is off. how bad is that? (noobish question, but please bear with me)
link to dumped bios - http://maxsteep.googlepages.com/R700.bin

maxstep
08-13-2008, 04:25 PM
can anyone __pleease__ upload whatever drivers and apps (a cd image would be amazing) and a gpu-z bios dump somewhere (mihd.net is a good free method) PLEASE?
because i need to either leave it or quickly try to return it. on vista x64 no driver is installable, except the one i mentioned before, turning on aa in 3dmark vantage gives _mad_ artifacts
can it be disabled because bios is modded? can anyone take a look at mine using TechPowerUp Radeon Bios Editor v1.13 ? http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...tor_v1.13.html
i desperately need some help ^^

mascaras
08-13-2008, 04:50 PM
Hi

im using the 8.52.2 posted here >>> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U7USVHPY


are you trying to install the driver with a fresh Vista installation ???

A friend mine cant install 8.52.2 neither , only cat 8.7 or 8.54

wait for cat 8.8 Final !!

regards

maxstep
08-13-2008, 05:01 PM
hey)
thanks for answering!
nope, bot fresh, but i'm using driver cleaner upon every reinstall, so it should be fine..
do you have any problems running 3dmark vantage under extreme preset?
as soon as enable aa my 4870x2 goes _mad_
can it be because mine is not a retail sample, or just some glitches with drivers?
*sigh* i wish i didnt get this damn one. but for 450cad (no taxes for obvious reasons) how could one refuse?..

mascaras
08-13-2008, 05:39 PM
hey)
thanks for answering!
nope, bot fresh, but i'm using driver cleaner upon every reinstall, so it should be fine..
do you have any problems running 3dmark vantage under extreme preset?
as soon as enable aa my 4870x2 goes _mad_
can it be because mine is not a retail sample, or just some glitches with drivers?
*sigh* i wish i didnt get this damn one. but for 450cad (no taxes for obvious reasons) how could one refuse?..


yes i can run vantage xtreme ( results 1st page)

hmm it could be both , because is a retail sample or glitches with drivers/OS (maybe drivers/OS)


PS: did you already tried install the catalyst 8.7 ???



:up:

maxstep
08-13-2008, 06:18 PM
catalyst 8.7 doesn't even recognize the video card (i'm pretty sure its not supposed to, since it is dated 20th july and the launch was on aug, 12)
4870 x2 shipped with 8.52 (8.8 beta i think)
i did manage to install 8.52 by cutting/pasting actual driver folder into the whole unpacked setup one.
i still get _m.a.d._ artifacts in 3dmark vantage with aa on.
most other games are okayish
crysis runs like a charm, just a tad slower than on your rig.
it seems that mine is a plug-and-pray type of device ^^
i _really_ hope that first official 8.8 will be installable on this thingy...
could you dump your bios via gpu-z and upload it somewhere? i would really appreciate it.

Unbornchild
08-13-2008, 08:35 PM
Nice report Mascaras :)

Crysis numbers are far above what some other sites posted, i wonder if a driver issue. IE Tweaktown report 2 x 4870x2 1920x1200 VH = 21fps.

The TweakTown test is bad: Q6600 @ 3 Ghz, Vista with only 2 GB PC6400 RAM:p:, and then Catalyst 8.7 that doesn't even support 4870X2.

Mascara's Crysis numbers are also a tad higher than should because he did the gpu bench instead of the (true game reflecting) time demo bench like Assault_Harbor

mascaras
08-14-2008, 06:33 AM
The TweakTown test is bad: Q6600 @ 3 Ghz, Vista with only 2 GB PC6400 RAM:p:, and then Catalyst 8.7 that doesn't even support 4870X2.

Mascara's Crysis numbers are also a tad higher than should because he did the gpu bench instead of the (true game reflecting) time demo bench like Assault_Harbor

i will run today Assault_Harbor


another videos in Crysis

1680x1050
Very High
AA 4x


http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=11424a6

http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=17cf0c2

:up:

Aldy402
08-14-2008, 09:54 AM
like we did with old HD2900XT to use single GPU waterblock right??

looking to the4870X2 cooler , i think is possible ! (not 100% sure) :up:


exactly, give it a shot please and take pics..
thanks

mascaras
08-14-2008, 01:18 PM
The TweakTown test is bad: Q6600 @ 3 Ghz, Vista with only 2 GB PC6400 RAM:p:, and then Catalyst 8.7 that doesn't even support 4870X2.

Mascara's Crysis numbers are also a tad higher than should because he did the gpu bench instead of the (true game reflecting) time demo bench like Assault_Harbor



just made Two runs , dont know if with 3 or 4 runs the results are better , even so


Average = 31 fps
1680x1050
Very High
AA x4



http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/3/8/14/f_assaultm_f1a3050.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/14/f_assaultm_f1a3050.jpg&srv=img26)



:up:

nsegative
08-14-2008, 01:30 PM
How do you change fan speed? I got my hd4870x2 today and I can't figure it out.

mascaras
08-14-2008, 01:31 PM
How do you change fan speed? I got my hd4870x2 today and I can't figure it out.



same way as HD4850 and HD4870


go to CCC , unlock the overdrive , create a profile and Save !

then go to


windows XP >> C:\Documents and Settings\username \Local Settings\Application Data\ATI\ACE\profile created in CCC .XML >>> Open with Notepad

or

windows vista >> C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\ATI\ACE\profile created in CCC .XML >>> Open with Notepad

then change "ATOMATIC" to "MANUAL"

and "Want" value="xx" >>> xx= value you want for fan speed (example : "30" = 30% or "45" = 45%)





HD4850/4870 Fan Fix!



if you make a profile in catalyst after turning on Overdrive( make sure clock and memory settings are correct).

Then You can then go to the file "C:\Users\Bretware(username)\AppData\Local\ATI\ACE\ Bretw are. XML. the xml file will have the same name as the catalyst profile you saved. right click and hit edit.

<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="65" />

Change the value to "manual" and Want value to "65"

Save the file then reload your profile in catalyst.

65% seemed perfect for me, 70% was loud but you may need it if your case has poor air flow.




Good Luck ,bretware

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=2751569&postcount=8

nsegative
08-14-2008, 01:37 PM
Thanks I see. Another question: if I have two monitors plugged in does that mean crossfire powers one monitor each (as overdrive is grayed out and for hd4870x2 theres two options for both monitors). Do I need to run it in single screen mode to get crossfire on main display?

mascaras
08-14-2008, 01:41 PM
Thanks I see. Another question: if I have two monitors plugged in does that mean crossfire powers one monitor each (as overdrive is grayed out and for hd4870x2 theres two options for both monitors). Do I need to run it in single screen mode to get crossfire on main display?

i really dont know because im only using 1 monitor , maybe someone else can Answer that !


regards

Unbornchild
08-14-2008, 03:17 PM
Thanks I see. Another question: if I have two monitors plugged in does that mean crossfire powers one monitor each (as overdrive is grayed out and for hd4870x2 theres two options for both monitors). Do I need to run it in single screen mode to get crossfire on main display?
[EDIT]. Yes it works, according to this article: http://techreport.com/articles.x/13967/3 :up:

nsegative
08-14-2008, 03:40 PM
Thanks unborn. Mascaras: I did that but it doesn't seem to be working (overdrive is enabled). The gpu temps climb and I do not hear the fan turn on (but I do hear it at pc startup and it's loud. I would've heard it if it was working in windows). My cusom profile is loaded and has this:

- <Feature name="OverclockEnabled">
<Property name="OverclockEnabledProperty" value="True" />
</Feature>
- <Feature name="FanSpeedProtocol_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedProtocolProperty" value="RPM" />
</Feature>
- <Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
- <Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
- <Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="85" />
</Feature>

Unbornchild
08-14-2008, 03:55 PM
You must load ("Activate") that profile in CCC>Overdrive for it to work.

nsegative
08-14-2008, 04:01 PM
I'm a bit confused. I have unlocked overdrive. I have edited the xml to that fan speed. I then closed catalyst, reopened it and went profile -> active profile -> testing.

nsegative
08-14-2008, 04:14 PM
An ati beta tester told me that the profile doesn't work with the X2:
http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33929685

mascaras
08-14-2008, 06:17 PM
An ati beta tester told me that the profile doesn't work with the X2:
http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33929685

it works with me , try to activate the profile in CCC several times till you hear fan :up:


regards

AndrewL1950
08-14-2008, 07:19 PM
Here is a question.

I currently have a 9800GTX 512. However, I run a 32 inch 1080p monitor. Will I see a big leap in FPS if I purchase this card, or should I wait a generation?

cakofony
08-15-2008, 09:05 AM
Ive been wondering the same thing, if it is worth upgrading from my 8800gtx. so far, it looks like the answer is yes.

not that there is anything I cant max on my current card, I just cant max some stuff with AA. I'll probably order a 4870 x2 this weekend :-)

mascaras
08-16-2008, 08:31 AM
Thanks unborn. Mascaras: I did that but it doesn't seem to be working (overdrive is enabled). The gpu temps climb and I do not hear the fan turn on (but I do hear it at pc startup and it's loud. I would've heard it if it was working in windows). My cusom profile is loaded and has this:

<Feature name="OverclockEnabled">
<Property name="OverclockEnabledProperty" value="True" />
</Feature>
- <Feature name="FanSpeedProtocol_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedProtocolProperty" value="RPM" />
</Feature>
- <Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
- <Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
- <Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="85" />
</Feature>






you are doing it wrong , not that settings , the settings you must change are in the end of the page (TARGET 1 not Target 0)





<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_1">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_1">
<Property name="Want" value="1273" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_1">
<Property name="Want" value="45" />
</Feature>





anyway , New expertool work with HD4870X2 >>> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=198701

:up:


Here is a question.

I currently have a 9800GTX 512. However, I run a 32 inch 1080p monitor. Will I see a big leap in FPS if I purchase this card


yes !!!


regards

nsegative
08-16-2008, 07:12 PM
Yea expertool fixed it for me. I gotta say though: Holy crap 50% is loud.

Olly_K
08-17-2008, 05:45 AM
you should try 100% !

nsegative
08-17-2008, 08:08 AM
you should try 100% !
Drowns out my AC at 100! In other news setting the xml setting in the 1 as mascaras suggested worked fine!

iboomalot
08-17-2008, 08:50 AM
Drowns out my AC at 100!


can't wait till WC blocks hit the market

dasa
08-18-2008, 03:58 PM
Just wondering if you had to do anything to get crysis dx10 working so well? as i havent had much luck yet

q9450 3.9ghz 488fsb 2x2g
4870x2 8.52.2
ccc at stock settings
fresh install


DX9 64bit

1680x1050
Play Time: 34.23s, Average FPS: 58.42
Min FPS: 36.42 at frame 1944
Max FPS: 78.08 at frame 127

1920x1200 0aa
Average FPS: 50.65
Min FPS: 24.42 at frame 148
Max FPS: 67.71 at frame 868

1920x1200 16xq aa
Average FPS: 49.07
Min FPS: 32.47 at frame 1958
Max FPS: 56.96 at frame 873


DX10 64bit

Quality: High
1680x1050 0aa
Average FPS: 38.31
Min FPS: 27.39 at frame 1954
Max FPS: 48.83 at frame 79

Quality: High
1920x1200 0aa
Average FPS: 32.56
Min FPS: 24.79 at frame 1965
Max FPS: 41.14 at frame 74

Quality: VeryHigh
1920x1200 0aa
Average FPS: 19.99
Min FPS: 15.27 at frame 1959
Max FPS: 22.96 at frame 1000

Quality: VeryHigh
1920x1200 16xq aa
Average FPS: 17.78
Min FPS: 13.60 at frame 1953
Max FPS: 20.33 at frame 867


Thanks

whocaresbg
08-18-2008, 11:55 PM
Lack of Vista SP1 or CF/SLI hotfixes lead to scaling issues . Make sure that you have installed Vista SP1 .

Good luck .

jmke
08-19-2008, 09:59 AM
Like i suspected it looks like Crysis runs much better with AA in windows Vista then windows XP


Operating System: Windows XP Professional SP2, Windows Vista SP1

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1541/4/sapphire_radeon_hd_4870_x2_in_crossfirex/index.html


but all their numbers are off compared to every other review on the planet ;)

mascaras
08-19-2008, 10:43 AM
Just wondering if you had to do anything to get crysis dx10 working so well? as i havent had much luck yet


Thanks




I didnt do anything , just install game and run ! :shrug: ( i already runned the benchamrks over and over again , and always same results )

are you using catalyst 8.8 beta ???? (not the 380mb version , thats not 8.8 beta)


with catalyst of CD Bundle i also had less performance (about -7 fps @ crysis ) , but with catalyst 8.8 beta = 6/7 fps increase

my friend also bought a 4870X2 3 days ago , and with 8.8 beta have same results !


whats your motherboard??

do you have windows Vista 64bit Ultimate service pack 1???





Quality: VeryHigh
1920x1200 0aa
Average FPS: 19.99
Min FPS: 15.27 at frame 1959
Max FPS: 22.96 at frame 1000

Thanks


thats very Bad , Something definitely wrong with your system (maybe only 1 GPU working)

my results with same settings :


Quality: VeryHigh
1920x1200 0aa

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/1784/1900veryre5.th.jpg (http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1900veryre5.jpg)


Minimum : 23.76 Fps
Maximum : 43.9 Fps
Average : 36 Fps





edit:


even with a single HD4870 512MB GDDR5 i had better results


your result with 4870X2

DX10 64bit

Quality: High
1680x1050 0aa
Average FPS: 38.31
Min FPS: 27.39 at frame 1954
Max FPS: 48.83 at frame 79





my result with a single HD4870 512mb

1680x1050
quality : high

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7259/crysis1680x10504870qr7gm7.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crysis1680x10504870qr7gm7.jpg)

Minimum : 22.24 Fps
Maximum : 54.41 Fps
Average : 44.83 Fps




like i said , something wrong with your system !


regards

dasa
08-19-2008, 04:37 PM
ah sp1
looks like vista hasent auto updated to sp1 yet
thanks for the tip ill see how it goes

edit: much better!

DX9 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High
Ave FPS: 56.705
Min FPS: 35.94
Max FPS: 72.78

DX10 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh
Ave FPS: 34.49
Min FPS: 21.65
Max FPS: 42.96

DX10 1900x1200 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh
Ave FPS: 32.135
Min FPS: 21.32
Max FPS: 38.80

mascaras
08-20-2008, 09:02 AM
ah sp1
looks like vista hasent auto updated to sp1 yet
thanks for the tip ill see how it goes

edit: much better!

DX9 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: High
Ave FPS: 56.705
Min FPS: 35.94
Max FPS: 72.78

DX10 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh
Ave FPS: 34.49
Min FPS: 21.65
Max FPS: 42.96

DX10 1900x1200 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh
Ave FPS: 32.135
Min FPS: 21.32
Max FPS: 38.80


see !! :)


regards

Mumid
08-21-2008, 05:35 AM
When benching crysis 64 bit, is it normal for the first loop to have really slow FPS, not jerky, really smooth, just low fps. By the time it gets to the second run, it runs at the right speed. Is that normal or is it just me?

jmke
08-21-2008, 05:37 AM
the first loop it's caching; first run has lower fps on all platforms afaik

Mumid
08-21-2008, 06:09 AM
the first loop it's caching; first run has lower fps on all platforms afaik

I benched on xp and vista 32 and while the first loop is slower on all, the behavior off the 64 bit version is totally different. Other two, are jerky and a bit slower, but 64 bit isnt jerky, its just loads slower. First loop is a lot slower on 64bit than 32bit, but like a say a lot smoother and no pauses for loading stuff in.

Computerville
08-21-2008, 08:13 AM
I benched on xp and vista 32 and while the first loop is slower on all, the behavior off the 64 bit version is totally different. Other two, are jerky and a bit slower, but 64 bit isnt jerky, its just loads slower. First loop is a lot slower on 64bit than 32bit, but like a say a lot smoother and no pauses for loading stuff in.- I woulden say that´s the difference of 32 and 64-bit, but I´m not an expert in Crysis 64-bit benchmarking.

cakofony
08-21-2008, 09:29 PM
I just got mine!
how did you change the fan speed? I cant seem to figure that one out.

Atal
08-25-2008, 10:52 PM
wow seems that Anti Aliasing is not an issue AT ALL for this card even at 16Q :shocked:

mascaras
08-26-2008, 08:02 AM
I just got mine!
how did you change the fan speed? I cant seem to figure that one out.







Radeon HD4870X2 FAN FIX




1º >> Catalsyt Control Center >> unlock OVERDRIVE

http://img28.picoodle.com/data/img28/3/8/26/f_unlom_a664577.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/26/f_unlom_a664577.jpg&srv=img28)






2º >> Profiles >> Profiles Manager >> Create Profile & SAVE


http://img34.picoodle.com/data/img34/3/8/26/f_profilem_80c066e.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/26/f_profilem_80c066e.jpg&srv=img34)

http://img33.picoodle.com/data/img33/3/8/26/f_criarm_dc242d1.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/26/f_criarm_dc242d1.jpg&srv=img33)







3º >> close Catalyst Control Center ando go to :

windows XP >> C:\Documents and Settings\username \Local Settings\Application Data\ATI\ACE\Profiles

windows vista >> C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\ATI\ACE\Profiles



http://img37.picoodle.com/data/img37/3/8/26/f_criarm_c8738ee.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/26/f_criarm_c8738ee.jpg&srv=img37)









4º >> open the created profile (xxx.XML) with NOTEPAD


http://img34.picoodle.com/data/img34/3/8/26/f_fixierom_156509a.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/26/f_fixierom_156509a.jpg&srv=img34)





and Edit the follow settings


http://img37.picoodle.com/data/img37/3/8/26/f_setim_8e8c964.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/26/f_setim_8e8c964.jpg&srv=img37)







<Property name="FanSpeedProtocolProperty" value="Percent" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_1">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" /> (change AUTOMATIC to MANUAL )
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_1">
<Property name="Want" value="0" /> ( set to 0 rpm)
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_1">
<Property name="Want" value="30" /> (set the Fan Speed % you want)
</Feature>
</Group>
</Groups>
<Adapter name="PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_9441&amp;SUBSYS_25421002&amp;REV_00_6&amp;68F 6CB1&amp;0&amp;00200008A">
<Aspect name="Overdrive5" />
</Adapter>
</Caste>
</Profile>








5º >> Save the profile >> go to CCC >> Profiles >> select profile

http://img28.picoodle.com/data/img28/3/8/26/f_finalm_ab5a2fe.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/26/f_finalm_ab5a2fe.jpg&srv=img28)








you can also use the new Expertool V4.0 (http://en.expreview.com/img/software/0808/Expertool-ati.exe) , however the minimum fan speed you can select = 50%



:up:

ShArKo
08-26-2008, 09:07 AM
Well nice score and everything, but wich card can get more performance.........the 4870 X2 or GTX280 :confused::confused::confused:

here in argentina the price of 4870 X2 is over u$s700 and GTX280 is u$s590 and the 9800 GX2 u$s555..........

So my problem is not the money, but the PSU......
With my actualy PSU (topower 520W) can I use the GTX280 :confused::confused:

s3rv3r
08-26-2008, 05:17 PM
HELP-ME PLEASE

1680x1050 - Very High Settings

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9691/teste23av7.th.jpg (http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teste23av7.jpg)

Minimum : 22.22 Fps
Maximum : 40.75 Fps
Average : 29.85 Fps

My conf has some problem, because mascaras did:

Minimum : 24.66 Fps
Maximum : 51.75 Fps
Average : 39.6 Fps

More or less 10 Fps of difference.

My conf is:

E8400 @ 4.0Ghz
SAPPHIRE HD4870X2 Default
ASUS P5Q3 DELUXE
2x2GB OCZ PLATINUM C7
Catalyst 8.8
Silverstone ST75F 750W
2 x Raptor-X ( raid 0 )
Windows Vista 64bit +SP1

What do you think is wrong in my system ?

Thank You.

s3rv3r
08-27-2008, 07:16 PM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7751/3dmark06novoxt1.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark06novoxt1.jpg)


The SM2.0 and CPU SCORE is the same, but the HDR/SM3 has 430 points of difference.



Maybe the 8.8 Beta is better than Official driver ?

mascaras
09-01-2008, 12:06 PM
Maybe the 8.8 Beta is better than Official driver ?

:up:

for HD4870X2 >>> Cat 8.8 beta @ 8.52.2 (No doubt)


i have +7 Fps in crysis compared to 8.8 Final !

regards

s3rv3r
09-01-2008, 12:34 PM
:up:

for HD4870X2 >>> Cat 8.8 beta @ 8.52.2 (No doubt)


i have +7 Fps in crysis compared to 8.8 Final !

regards

Ahhhhhhhh ATI :slapass:

Thanks Mascaras :bows::bows::bows:

s3rv3r
09-01-2008, 04:15 PM
I instal the Catalyst 8.54 ( 380MB )

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8248/vantagecb8.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vantagecb8.jpg)

malik22
09-05-2008, 10:12 AM
:up:

for HD4870X2 >>> Cat 8.8 beta @ 8.52.2 (No doubt)


i have +7 Fps in crysis compared to 8.8 Final !

regards



These ones corrrect
http://www.files.to/get/347201/2f00xwmemt

BulldogPO
09-07-2008, 01:22 AM
Dudes!
Are these cards locked somehow?
I just cand overclock these, CCC clocks but real clocks stay at 2D clocks.
Rivatuner v2.10 does overclock but only one GPU.

mascaras
09-07-2008, 07:51 AM
These ones corrrect
http://www.files.to/get/347201/2f00xwmemt


correct !! :up:



Dudes!
Are these cards locked somehow?
I just cand overclock these, CCC clocks but real clocks stay at 2D clocks.
Rivatuner v2.10 does overclock but only one GPU.


I can Overclock with CCC @ Overdrive !!

you can also try Rivatuner and AMD Gpu Tool


regards

Shocker003
09-07-2008, 08:15 AM
I want to up grade my graphic card (eVGA 8800GTS 320mb SC).
So which out of these two cards will you guys buy
Powercolor HD4870 512mb or Gainward HD 4870 512mb?:confused:
I think i can easily bump up the core clocks so the golden sample and PCS+ are out of the question for me. Pls. i need your advice and thanks for the help:up:

malik22
09-07-2008, 10:30 AM
Mascaras here are the 8.9 beta maybe they give you a performance boost
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33931358

Shocker003
09-07-2008, 02:51 PM
Well i guess no one wants to help out, cos am not buying or talking about a HD4870x2. Or am i asking in the wrong forum?

ust
09-08-2008, 02:49 AM
Buy the cheapest one. The cards are identical and I think that Powercolor's and Gainward's range of service is too.
If you care about looks, then pick the coolest one.

F.stop
09-09-2008, 07:21 AM
for HD4870X2 >>> Cat 8.8 beta @ 8.52.2 (No doubt)


i have +7 Fps in crysis compared to 8.8 Final !

regards[/QUOTE]

your right mascaras
im running 8.52.2 on my powercolor
runs good :D

jaredpace
09-11-2008, 04:48 PM
how does 8.53 or 8.54 or 8.9 betas compare to 8.52.2 betas?

mascaras
09-11-2008, 05:01 PM
how does 8.53 or 8.54 or 8.9 betas compare to 8.52.2 betas?


Hi


8.54 are not so good , 8.53 i didnt tested yet with 4870X2 , only with 4870 and 4850 !


:up:

mascaras
09-15-2008, 09:09 AM
Ok , just tested cat 8.9beta (8.53)

crysis bech almost same results as cat 8.8 beta (sample4800X2-8.52.2)




Cat 8.9 Beta
1680x1050
Very High
DX10

Average = 38.54 Fps


http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8321/cat89verymg9.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cat89verymg9.jpg)



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cat 8.9 beta
1680x1050
Very High
Anti-Aliasing 2x
DX10


Average = 37 Fps

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5757/cat89veryaahw6.th.jpg (http://img357.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cat89veryaahw6.jpg)




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nigelke
09-15-2008, 09:32 AM
i really loved reading this :)
great results whit this card.
What do you recommend? These latest drivers 8.9beta ore 8.8 ?

Tomorow i should have my own card :D ( I hope :) )

mascaras
09-15-2008, 10:21 AM
i really loved reading this :)
great results whit this card.
What do you recommend? These latest drivers 8.9beta ore 8.8 ?

Tomorow i should have my own card :D ( I hope :) )


thnks


im using the catalyst 8.9 beta (8.53) since the performance is the same as 8.8beta ! :up:


regards

NaeKuh
09-16-2008, 06:54 PM
mascaras,

Heres loaded temps on water. :wasntme:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Loadtemps.jpg

The difference is hugh. The card is begging to be watercooled. :rofl:

ACE76
09-16-2008, 09:27 PM
I just got this card today but the HIS Hightech part. I ran mine totally stock along with my Q9650 stock and scored only 8912 in Vantage...does that sound right to you guys? My idle temps were 80c!!! This card is definitely getting water-cooled. Now I'm wondering if a single triple rad will cool a quad and this videocard sufficiently.

Any input on my Vantage score would be great...I'm using the official driver available on ATI's site. I read about an official ATI BIOS update for this videocard...is this true and if so has anyone used it yet?

nigelke
09-16-2008, 10:56 PM
thnks


im using the catalyst 8.9 beta (8.53) since the performance is the same as 8.8beta ! :up:


regards

great to hear :D
today is going to be a party :D

mascaras
09-19-2008, 11:29 AM
I just got this card today but the HIS Hightech part. I ran mine totally stock along with my Q9650 stock and scored only 8912 in Vantage...does that sound right to you guys? My idle temps were 80c!!! This card is definitely getting water-cooled. Now I'm wondering if a single triple rad will cool a quad and this videocard sufficiently.

Any input on my Vantage score would be great...I'm using the official driver available on ATI's site. I read about an official ATI BIOS update for this videocard...is this true and if so has anyone used it yet?

8912 marks in vantage Extreme or Performance mode??

about bios i didnt flash the card with any bios , im using the original Bios !

Temperature just use Rivatuner 2.11 to control Fan speed !

:up:



mascaras,

Heres loaded temps on water. :wasntme:



The difference is hugh.


:yepp::yepp::up:


reagrds

mascaras
09-24-2008, 01:13 PM
Crysis Warhead Benchmark


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2858/warud4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)








E8400 @ 3.8Ghz
HD4870X2 Default
Catalyst 8.9
Windows Vista 64bit
1920x1200
Enthusiast
Level : AVALANCHE
DX10


Average :35 fps


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5261/avalanchecv6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




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E8400 @ 3.8Ghz
HD4870X2 Default
Catalyst 8.9
Windows Vista 64bit
1680x1050
enthusiast
Level : Airfield
DX10


Average : 42.5 fps

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4353/dx10benchuk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)







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E8400 @ 3.8Ghz
HD4870X2 Default
Catalyst 8.9
Windows Vista 64bit
1680x1050
Enthusiast
Level : Airfield
DX9


Average : 50 fps

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8272/dx9benchoh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)





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0_o-Roy
11-11-2008, 11:20 PM
Hey whats up with my gx2 texture fill rates and pixel fillrates being better than the 4870x2? oh and the bandwidth is better?http://s356.photobucket.com/albums/oo4/0_o-Roy/?action=view&current=gx2vshd4870x2.jpg

0_o-Roy
11-11-2008, 11:24 PM
stupid picture this is the link: http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo4/0_o-Roy/gx2vshd4870x2.jpg

[EvQ]RheA
11-12-2008, 01:22 AM
How much of an improvement over the original Crysis?

L7R
12-03-2008, 06:21 AM
Hey whats up with my gx2 texture fill rates and pixel fillrates being better than the 4870x2? oh and the bandwidth is better?http://s356.photobucket.com/albums/oo4/0_o-Roy/?action=view&current=gx2vshd4870x2.jpg

Your picture shows 4870x2 being in 2D mode. So those are the 4870x2 fillrates when clocks are only 507MHz for core and only 500MHz for memory.

neo_rtr
05-01-2009, 03:38 PM
Can i run a Hd4870x2 on an ASUS M/B formula extreme with an 8800GTX OC for physics?

neo_rtr
05-15-2009, 02:50 AM
Not sure if this thread is dead or not..

Any one with issues : Text flickering, Shaders, flash and light issues, text flashing in game (Crysis command prompt press the § button)