p35 vs p45 boards

[Circaflex]

Well after looking things over, ddr3 isnt worth it to me right now and my bank account, so on that note im looking to get either a p35 or p45 board, i have an abit ip35 right now and it was pretty good, is the p45 much of an improvement? Im looking for a nice quad core board, that has a clean socket for phase. I wont be going sli or xfire until i move to ddr3 later this year, but i MIGHT go x2gpu before then. Shoot me some ideas, im getting the board tonight or tomorrow.

[pablo906]

I had some bad luck with my Biostar IP45 but that was with the PCIx16 slots. I got it up to 600FSB without trying very hard. On phase that thing would rock and it's got a very clean socket.

I just picked up a Asus P5E Deluxe and it's basically a rebadged X48 DDR2 ROG board. The Rampage Formula. The socket area is a bit more cluttered than I would like and when I mounted the prommy on it I got some freezing around the socket area because of how close everything was to the socket, but a remount with more attention to that area fixed it. Unfortunately my Prommy started leaking all over the place right after that second mount so now it's out of commission.

Some people are waiting for the Abit P45 board because it's supposed to be a really good board. Their P35 offering wasn't bad.

Basically if you're wanting to go with CF and want dual X16 lanes for those extra few points to set WR's then go X48, I really like the DFI and Asus boards, though I like the P5E Deluxe a little better than the DFI I tried. I get easier FSB scaling out of it. I hit 450 with minimal tweaking on the first run under phase. With patience I think I could get more.

If CF isn't your bag then the P45 boards are FSB monsters. Especially the Biostars, just be prepared for a possible RMA. If you have the money get a couple of them and send the one that doesn't clock as well or has PCIx issues back.

[ziddey]

how high of fsb's are you trying to reach? i don't know if p45's do any better, but as it is, p35's do quite well. performancewise, you won't see much difference. p45 brings in pcie2.0, but it's no thang at the moment.

so since you already have the ip35, stick with it. I had the ip35e in the past and liked it a lot but it died on me. I rma'ed it and got another dud. too much hassle at the moment to do another rma. waste of shipping cost at this point, unless abit is willing to cover that too for sending me a dud. so i'm back to using my dfi p965

[WhiteFireDragon]

if you already have a p35, spending about another $150 for a p45 is not worth it. you'll only see minimal gains. if you were doing a complete build from scratch, then it's well worth the money

[Loser777]

If you're getting a 65nm chip, P35 is fine. With 45nm Quads, P45 and X48 are the way to go.

[whatever]

Are there any overclocking gains between P35 and P45 ?
I`m searching for a new motherboard that will do >550 (on air) to accommodate my E8200 beast.

[WhiteFireDragon]

p43's and lower half p45's might not easily reach it, but pretty much any upper end p45 will easily reach it. my maximus II has so many BIOS options for fine tuning an OC

[whatever]

You mean that a P5Q-E/Deluxe cannot clock as high as my budget Blood Iron ?!

[Leeghoofd]

P5Q-E and Dlx perform on par and 600FSB is a no brainer on a wolfie with good ram... boards like the vanilla and pro version of the P5Q series lack some features in the bios to have fine tweaking at high speeds...

Also for the OP, think a newer P45 is the way to go to push ya quad to new heights...

[whatever]

OK.
I`ll buy a P5Q-E. If it doesnt please me, then I`ll return it :D.

[Circaflex]

if you already have a p35, spending about another $150 for a p45 is not worth it. you'll only see minimal gains. if you were doing a complete build from scratch, then it's well worth the money

but my ip35 is dead and i dont want to go through the hassle to rma, and ddr3 just doesnt seem to be worth it right now (400+ for 4gb of ddr3 2000)

[Nasgul]

P45 is better. Seems like it runs cooler and OCs as high as the X48 but! also the P45 comes with an ICH-10R, although some don't, just the plain ICH-10. But if you do RAID, the ICH-10R would be nice.

[whatever]

What is all this fuss around ICH10 ? Nothing special.

[Circaflex]

so is there a board p45 that has ddr3 and ich10r?

[mad_skills]

Several P45 DDR2 ICH10 but for DDR3 models, not so sure. Perhaps something from the Asus P5Q3 series?

[WhiteFireDragon]

but my ip35 is dead and i dont want to go through the hassle to rma, and ddr3 just doesnt seem to be worth it right now (400+ for 4gb of ddr3 2000)
oh if it's already dead and you need a new board instead of just upgrading from a working board, then a ~$150 p45 would do the job. like leeghoofd said, p5q-E is well worth the money.

so is there a board p45 that has ddr3 and ich10r?

gigabyte's EP45C, EP45T, EP45T-extreme, asus's P5QC and P5Q3, and MSI's P45 diamond are all on ddr3 and ICH10R SB platforms


Several P45 DDR2 ICH10 but for DDR3 models, not so sure. Perhaps something from the Asus P5Q3 series?
P5Q3 isn't a series, it's only one board and it's asus's only p45 that support ddr3

[B.E.E.F.]

Looking for a budget build.

DDR2 Memory
HD 4850 (will not do Crossfire)
E7200 or E7300 overclock to 1.4v max. Running 24/7.

I'm looking at the Abit IP35 Pro. Worth to look at a P45 board? Runs cooler than the P35?

[natedog420]

get a p45 its new technology and overclocks better than p35. im going to jump over to p45 even though i have a good p35. if you want pm me ill sell you my blood iron for cheap. it has no problem at all and runs good.

edit:just pulled the trigger on a biostar tforce tp45 so the blood iron is up for grabs pm me for low price. its about 3 months old. everything is included like retail box.

[B.E.E.F.]

The Blood Iron, does it go to 450mhz FSB?

Otherwise what's the difference between the P35 and the P45? I know the P45 does RAID better... might need that.

[natedog420]

as for the 450 fsb ya it does that no sweat with low volts as long as your cpu will do that. it will boot to bios at 565 fsb on air but not windows and in windows as far as ive gotten in on air is 525 fsb stable in windows never really tried more. that pretty good i think for tryin as high as 1.42 vcore and very little tweaking. my e8400 isnt the greatest but does ok. i ran 525x8 on my e8400 and it was stable. i like the board just wanting something different thats why i would like to get rid of it for cheap to help pay for my new biostar tp45 i just bought. i dont need another board just laying around as i have no use for it at the moment.

edit: the blood iron has raid also if you need that to

[whatever]

550 with 1,28 E8200 here, Blood Iron.

[Circaflex]

so im about to pull the trigger but i started reading up on Nehalem, the fact that its a new socket kind of scares me, supposedly due later 2008 (right around the corner) almost scared to waste money on ddr3 plus a 775 board when id need a new board and cpu (memory can transfer over i assume)