[Project] YAMMS

[dho]

No, it's not a build inside the popular Yam vegetable, it's Yet Another Mountain Mods System (sorry to disappoint :p:)

I'm not much of a modder, and even less of a photographer, but I was hoping to share this buy-and-build project all the same. Please don't hesitate to share your comments, questions, and criticisms.

Here's a quick run-down of the PC hardware:

Anodized MM U2UFO CYO - Opti120.3 front, triple rear, horizon m/b mount
QX9650 ES
EVGA 790i Ultra
4GB Mushkin PC3-12800
EVGA GTX 280
2x OCZ Core 64GB SSD RAID-0
Ultra X3 PSU

And the LC gear:

2x MCP355 w/ XSPC tops
2x Thermochill PA120.3 rads
EK Supreme
EK NB
EK FC GTX 280 block
9x Scythe S-Flex 1600rpm fans
Scythe Kaze Master fan controller
Big bag of bitspower compression fittings
.. and a pile of other stuff to be unboxed and somehow squeezed in.

Enough chatter, let's get on with it!

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/img_1193_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/img_1190_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/img_1198_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/img_1229_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/img_1231_small.jpg

Rad flush, case assembly, test fitting, and plenty more to do this weekend :wiggle:

[MomijiTMO]

Haha I love the title.

Nice hardware and have fun cleaning everything.

[BNDMOD]

Suscribed!

[skinnee]

must see more pictures!!!

begin countdown to RRR posting his traditional "FTW" post...

[dho]

Thanks for the kind words, all.

I unpacked and flushed one of my rads last night, but after unpacking the second noticed this:

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1204_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1205_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1208_small.jpg

:(

Needless to say I'm concerned. The other rad was flawless, but I'm hoping these are just a little bends in the hose and it's not punctured. I folded them back out and they seem okay so far. Hopefully I won't end up with a face full of hot water when I flush it.

Instead of potentially ending the evening on a bad note, I changed gears and mounted the EK FC GTX block instead. Man that thing is beautiful! Go EK!

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1245_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1253_small.jpg

[mit78]

nice,please more pics!!!!!!!!!!!

[IanY]

Just a fin. No big deal. Bend it back and it'll be just fine.

Its almost par for the course with Thermochill.

[IanY]

begin countdown to RRR posting his traditional "FTW" post...


No FTWs from RRR today? OK. I'll do it for him.

Anodized MM FTW! PA120.3 FTW! EK Supreme FTW! MCP355 FTW! XSPC Tops FTW! Bitspower Compressions FTW Ultra PSU FTW! EVGA Mobo FTW! {did I miss anything?} :p:

[dho]

:rofl: You guys crack me up. Now it's a real mountain mods thread :ROTF:


Who did you buy them from???

Picked them up from MM along with the case. Boxes were well packed inside others, so my guess would be either a Thermochill quality issue or damaged in transit to MM. Either way, I'm sure I'd have no problem with a return if it turns out there's a puncture - those guys are awesome. :yepp:

Shell finally assembled

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1215_small.jpg

Test fitting some components

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1259_small.jpg

Tubing might be tight going up this way as planned, but we'll see

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1258_small.jpg

No room for compression fittings on this badboy - spacing is too tight. It's universal though, so in the parts bin it goes..

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1251_small.jpg

I'll order a DD mpc-universal instead. It'll cost a little flow (my original reason for going with the EK SB/NB 5 block in the first place), but I'm still over 1.25gpm, so no worries.

[dho]

NO........... Don't go DD, please........

Any particular issue with the block, or just don't like DD in general?

[skinnee]

DD will be fine...a little piece of RRR will die, but DD will be fine!

[freakgeek1337]

RRR, you are one annoying man.:shakes: It's one thing to be a MM fanboy, it's another thing to hate DD for no apparent reason... Well, anyway that's one hell of a build right there.

[Mick64]

:welcome:

Nice project :up:

Wish I had the time and funds to build a monster like this! :clap:

[MomijiTMO]

DD will be fine...a little piece of RRR will die, but DD will be fine!
I do have to say that I was laughing quite hard at this. :)

DD will be fine but I guess if you look at it from a different and somewhat odd angle, RRR might be saying that you already have EK blocks so you would be ruining your EK theme. Alternatively I might be a tad retarded but either goes.

[disruptfam]

OT:RRR you may do all that fanboyism in good fun mate, but for new water coolers on the forum will automatically think oh this guy said its no good...they get confused and you could tell Them to go thermaltake watercooling and they would!

AS FUNNY AS THAT MAY SOUND :) ...

Let me tell ya i'am a huge ek fanboy(Yall already know) but i don't discredit other manufacturers offerings..one offering may not be your cup of tea...but don't shoot it down.

Without knowing how it performs.

This is not aggressive attack so don't take it that way.

You don't have to be fanboy to appreciate something good.

Just my lil rant for the day aka friendly reminder

(OP by no means am i saying your a noob)Lovely build btw

[disruptfam]

Giving your opinion is not the problem mate...

post edited... :) sorry OP continue on..

[Catz]

As far as ThermalTake goes, what's wrong with that product???

FAIL

[capreppy]

Sub'd.

[Razor_Blade]

Awesome build, reminds me of mine... GL with it all!

[Nate P.]

The DD block isn't all bad, Martin did a review on it: http://www.martinsliquidlab.com/DangerDen-MPC-Universal.html

[ubermensch]

Awesome build, reminds me of mine... GL with it all!

Looking really nice. Reminds me of my build too. I got the exact same setup opti1203 front and triple back in horizontal alignment. I got 2 thermochills set up exactly the same way you do. The anodize finish looks nice..

[twwen2]

I'll be watching this one closely, i'm liking the size and layout of this MM iteration :up:

[dho]

I appreciate all the opinions; don't be shy. I did my homework for this project, but it's never 100% perfect. If that DD block leaks, cracks, or just causes problems we're all in for a well-deserved told-you-so from the big man from Texas. :rofl:


(OP by no means am i saying your a noob)Lovely build btw

I've always thought that believing you know everything is a quick way to prove you know nothing. I've also found you can learn a lot by listening to a wiser crowd. So I'm just throwing parts in a box and hoping a well-laid plan plays out in the end. All credit goes to the manufacturers of today's fine LC gear. It's the golden age of this hobby.

Thanks for the compliment. Plenty of time to go south yet though.. stay tuned ;)


Might want to seriously consider getting some air flow on the bottom of your DDC pump... Mounting those pumps flush on the bottom of the case, is like inviting trouble... The DDC is notorious for failure, induced by the motor overheating...

I hear ya. I'm building a short mesh stand to fasten on top of the gel pads. It was originally to provide a better angle for flow up to the rads, but yours is an even better reason. :up:


Awesome build, reminds me of mine... GL with it all!

Thanks. I looked long and hard at your Radium box. Great build!

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Not much of an update today. I somehow forgot to post the obligatory 'pile of stuff' pic, so here goes:

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/img_1181_small.jpg

My last shipments arrive tomorrow, but today I finally received some gear from PTS (west coast -> NY is slooowww).

My wife takes a polite interest in the hobby - I say polite because it's mostly just a passing eye-roll when I'm asking a pile of anodized aluminum about how it wants its tubing routed. However, today in the PTS shipment I received these (http://www.petrastechshop.com/pegviabbl.html):

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/img_1283_small.jpg

Fresh out of the box, she gave them a look and asked "What are those?". Ever the fool, I replied "Breast implants", and slipped each bag into the top of her shirt. Suffice it to say, she was not amused. I think I'll be working in the basement late tonight... :lol2:

[IanY]

And I guess that's where you would be domiciled for the time being :D

[Serpentarius]

And I guess that's where you would be domiciled for the time being :D

i can imagine his ears should be either twisted upside down or he's having severe temporary hearing loss :ROTF::rofl:

[twwen2]

Fresh out of the box, she gave them a look and asked "What are those?". Ever the fool, I replied "Breast implants", and slipped each bag into the top of her shirt. Suffice it to say, she was not amused. I think I'll be working in the basement late tonight... :lol2:

Haha oops! :ROTF:
Keep up the updates, i'm falling in love with the MM case the more o look at it.

Funny thing is, i've never liked the MM cubes, they always looked too industrial and metallic to me, but yours is different for some reason. I think the matt anodized finish has won me over. I like it so much i might even get one in the exact same specs as yours, hope you don't mind! :D

[Pellepel]

Nice to see another MM going :up:. Damn I wish I would of bought different liquid cooling parts and those compression fittings :slobber: O well I guess from here on out is just going to be refinements.

Keep up it the good work, we like to see more pics!

[Razor_Blade]

I love the pile o' hardware. I am having Serious Deja vu. Subd.

[dho]

I think the matt anodized finish has won me over. I like it so much i might even get one in the exact same specs as yours, hope you don't mind!

Go for it and don't look back. This case is a joy to work with. You won't regret it.

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Oh i LOVE delivery day. Just 2 more to go and stockpiling will be complete. Let's see what the wonderful carrier delivered today..

DD MPC-universal block. Is it just me, or is it smiling from its celebrity status in this thread?
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1301_small.jpg
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1301b_small.jpg

Anyway..

Koolance nickel-plated brass drain valve (one for each loop)
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1308_small.jpg

2x XSPC bay reservoirs
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1313_small.jpg

Pile of black-oxide screws. I've never been excited about screws before, but these put a smile on my face. I'll demonstrate later.
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1314_small.jpg

Addonics disk array. 4 SSD disks in 1 5.25" bay. Removable trays, single molex power cable. :clap:
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1325_small.jpg

Mounting blocks
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1319_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1321_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1324_small.jpg

And that's it for tonight and unfortunately the next couple of days. Friday the real build starts. :yepp:

[disruptfam]

looking good mate...

[twwen2]

Nice update, that stuff is just gorgeous :eek::D.

:rofl: @ the smiling DD block.

Where did you get the screws from? MM or somewhere else?

[skinnee]

I do like the smiling block...

poor RRR, a little piece of him died today. :rofl:

[LogAn'sRun]

no pics until post 35, or is you're PB account maxed?? :(

[pcaddict]

holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:! SSD's! SUBSCRIBED!

[IanY]

Now, please hare with me where in New York you found those low head allen screws. Please.

[mpower1001]

Nice build, just curious how the thermalright mosfet cooler fit on the top. I say this because someone on this forum had a problem with one of the clips on the top mosfet cooler. Did you have any problems fitting them?

[skinnee]

Okay, so I was reviewing the thread for another post...you're not going to stick those breast implants under those DDC's are you? IIRC, the heat generated by the DDC is to much for the fake juggies...you'll probably end up with a nasty mess or worse, killing those pumps.

[twwen2]

Okay, so I was reviewing the thread for another post...you're not going to stick those breast implants under those DDC's are you? IIRC, the heat generated by the DDC is to much for the fake juggies...you'll probably end up with a nasty mess or worse, killing those pumps.

+1 Good catch. I was too busy laughing at the implants gag that i forgot what what they were actually for. From what i've heard those things aren't safe under DDCs.

[mpower1001]

I did lose a 1 month old DDC-3.2 from mounting it flat against my case :shakes:. I really dont know if this was the cause, but my new pump is mounted with space underneath it for cooling.

[dho]

I'm back in town and off work tomorrow, so I promise updates and progress! Thanks for all the support. :up:


looking good mate...

Thanks again. It really broke my heart when you stopped your build :(


Where did you get the screws from? MM or somewhere else?

Now, please hare with me where in New York you found those low head allen screws. Please.

Home depot. Ok, just kidding. McMasters! Make sure you have a 1/16" hex bit.



Line Qty Part Number Unit Price Description
1 1 Pack 92220A143 $9.34 Alloy Steel Low Head Socket Cap Screw 6-32 Thread, 1/2" Length, Packs of 25
2 4 Packs 92220A141 $8.31 Alloy Steel Low Head Socket Cap Screw 6-32 Thread, 1/4" Length, Packs of 25
3 1 Pack 92220A142 $8.84 Alloy Steel Low Head Socket Cap Screw 6-32 Thread, 3/8" Length, Packs of 25


Ships out of NJ same day, arrives the next. Between McMasters and Frozencpu, NY is a pretty nice place to be ordering from.


Nice build, just curious how the thermalright mosfet cooler fit on the top. I say this because someone on this forum had a problem with one of the clips on the top mosfet cooler. Did you have any problems fitting them?

Yes, the stock clips do NOT work on the 790i motherboard. If you've already bought them, email support@thermalright.com with your order receipt attached and they will send you replacement clips once they're available. I have not received any yet, but they say 'early August'. If you haven't purchased yet, maybe just wait for the new version.

I hacked mine a bit to make it work. Check out this thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=195820). And this post (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3173730#post3173730) details the (ugly) way I made it work.


IIRC, the heat generated by the DDC is to much for the fake juggies...you'll probably end up with a nasty mess or worse, killing those pumps.

I'm hearing this advice a lot; sounds like a mistake I can't afford to make. I'll be installing the pumps on some modder's mesh risers on top of the implants. That should provide some good flow under/around without completely negating the benefit of vibration dampening.

At this point I have a duty to make the implants work. The case would feel inadequate if I didn't. ;)

[Pellepel]

nice!

[fadetoblack]

awesome.. can't wait to see how this one turns out

[IanY]

Between McMasters and Frozencpu, NY is a pretty nice place to be ordering from.

Except its very nice to be about two minutes past the NY State border in Connecticut. Same shipping time, just no sales taxes with FrozenCPU. Of course I declare the state taxes on my 1040.. ahem :)

You're in the city, or in the suburbs ?

Thanks for the McMaster inventory listing !!

[IanY]

At this point I have a duty to make the implants work. The case would feel inadequate if I didn't. ;)

If you take a couple of household kitchen sponges, place one on top of the implant, and then one below the implant. Mount the pump on top of the sponge and then clamp down. It prevents the implants from melting. Doesn't solve the need for airflow, but at least they stay perky and not droopy.

[skinnee]

It prevents the implants from melting. Doesn't solve the need for airflow, but at least they stay perky and not droopy.
No egg in a sock here folks!

[YMAA]

Like the way it's coming so far! (And good use of the letters Y, M, and A :D)

[dho]

Except its very nice to be about two minutes past the NY State border in Connecticut. Same shipping time, just no sales taxes with FrozenCPU. Of course I declare the state taxes on my 1040.. ahem

You're in the city, or in the suburbs ?

That's even better. I take advantage of your fine state's tax laws at every opportunity (and declare later too of course). ;)

I'm upstate, but travel down to the city a couple times per month. Enough to know I couldn't handle living there full-time.

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Lots of progress today. Uninteresting stuff: reflushed rads, planned some tubing, planned some wire routing, rotated both my cpu and nb blocks, tested all fans.

Testing the sexy Scythe Kaze Master - I love it already.
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1344_small.JPG

Did a little painting.

Before:
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1315_small.JPG

Bye bye led fans :wave: after:
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1348_small.JPG


Installed front and rear radiators, grills, and fans.
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1374_small.JPG

Full frontal shot shows the clean look of those screws from mcmasters.
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1376_small.JPG


.. and I just realized I forgot to install the 5.25" disk array. Of course it has to be on the left side, so out everything comes again.. :wth:

[skinnee]

what is that mesh in between the grills and rad? me likey!

[ls206]

looks good, I think that dvd drive is begging to be stealthed or covered with a li li cover.
keep up the good work!

[twwen2]

Cor blimey, that last pic looks menacing!:eek:

Very nice, progress is looking good.

[IanY]

I love the Un-Bling-Ification project you did to the OCZ memory fan :)

Maybe I should copy that image and e-mailit to OCZ management so that they can get a clue what people want :)

[Pellepel]

No casters? Last pic looks really good, maybe cuz its the nice setup up. Like the black grill and mesh behind it.

[dho]

what is that mesh in between the grills and rad? me likey!

That would be 120mm black steel mesh fan filter (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2599/ffa-16/120mm_Black_Steel_Mesh_Filter_Grill_CASMF-120BK.html). The picture makes it look like they're sporting a potbelly, but it's really no more than a slightly beveled lip around the circle. It fits pretty flush.

I went as far as buying some FilterRight aluminum filters (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2633/ffi-15/FrozenCPU_FilterRight_120mm_Black_Aluminum_Fan_Fil ter.html), but after test-fitting them realized the bulky plastic and floppy aluminum didn't really fit with the clean theme.


looks good, I think that dvd drive is begging to be stealthed or covered with a li li cover.

That's a great idea, and you're totally right of course. The problem is, you're also the devil. That would be textbook build-creep. I won't fall for it! Next thing you know it'll be a few more screws, just one more fan. Maybe just paint something a slightly different color. Just one more hit. That's all and the project will be perfect. Wait, two fans. Three. Grills. LEDs!! :nuts:


I love the Un-Bling-Ification project you did to the OCZ memory fan

Thanks. I love this piece of hardware, but fitting 8 LEDs(!) and chroming it is just obnoxious. I won't lie - I like a little color and style, but how about some moderation.

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I am trying to bite my tongue, but there is a serious possibility of finally running loops today. I'm excited! I'm sure the lawn can wait a day..

[IanY]

Oh the dreaded lawn !! I'm going into my cave to hide !!

[charles_h]

Excellent work dho.

On the subject of implants - well, sort of anyway. The one thing about those fan controllers that irks me are the "erect nipple" looking rotary dials. IMHO, it would be great if they were the kind that you could push in when you're done playing with and they would be flush with the facade. I don't know what the kind I'm talking about are called but I reckon they incorporate a spring w/ retention clip or something...

In any event, keep up the great work! :)

[dho]

In any event, keep up the great work!

That means a lot coming from you. At least half the effort I've put into this project is due to the murderbox wallpaper i have on my desktop. :worship:


No casters?

:ROTF: you got me. I forget them. Now installed.. painfully.. not much room to work under those rads.

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The custom mesh pump stands turned out alright. Not perfect, but I lack the tools and skills to get what I wanted mentally into physical form. They'll work though. Go ahead and laugh at my awful cuts, I can take it. ;) It'll be our little secret that they're now hidden under rubber trim.

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1383_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1384_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1387_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1391_small.jpg

I now declare these pumps the PUMP TANK BRIGADE. ROLL OUT!

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1390_small.jpg

First strike: the PTB takes control of Lower YAMMS :shoot:

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1399_small.jpg

Upper YAMMS is being attacked by some sort of black octopus

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1403_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1409_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1400_small.jpg

And a couple of rear shots if you're into that sort of thing..

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1406_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1407_small.jpg


I didn't get to tubing everything up yesterday, but as of 15 minutes ago, I have completed all the sleeving, fan wiring, and route testing. I am effectively done with the case. Tubing next! :up:

.. after I mow the lawn :down:

[mpower1001]

I now declare these pumps the PUMP TANK BRIGADE. ROLL OUT!


Too funny :rofl: :ROTF:

[disruptfam]

very nice starting to get to the business end of things now :)

[twwen2]

Haha here come the Liang DDC tank corps, look out!! :ROTF:

Nice pics, it's coming together nicely!

[ubermensch]

Haha here come the Liang DDC tank corps, look out!! :ROTF:

Nice pics, it's coming together nicely!

My thoughts exactly.. looks like a tank!:ROTF:

Those are some awesome photos.. drools!:slobber:

[dho]

Hi guys. This build isn't dead, but I'm considering swapping some parts. Rewinding to last weekend, leak testing went off without a hitch, so I started some light benching. The Mushkin DDR3 2x2gb kit clocked at 7-7-6-18 @1600mhz on 1.85v without an issue. I'm sure it can at least go up to 1800 with some timing and voltage, but I'm not all that bothered about it at the moment.

What I am bothered by is that my QX9650 ES is a pretty mediocre chip. Specifically it's prime 8hr stable at 1.304v @3.8ghz. Load temps on it are 49-53 depending on ambient at time of day. So there's some room to clock it up to 4ghz without passing 1.4v. Sounds ok so far, right? The annoying part is the droop on this board. In order to stay at 1.304v loaded (~1.365v idle), I have to set 1.4v bios. That's a pretty hefty droop. Options at this point are live with it (I don't particularly want to clock the bios over 1.4v) or switch the board to something with better power management to tighten it up a little. The Asus Rampage Extreme comes to mind, and the upcoming 790i FTW sounds interesting).

I'm still mulling it over, and will post pics of the current setup this weekend anyway. Please share any thoughts you have!

[dho]

Felt bad making a post without any eye candy, so here's a teaser ;)

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1428_small.JPG

[disruptfam]

i smell the 1st MM mdpc... :)

[Razor_Blade]

What I am bothered by is that my QX9650 ES is a pretty mediocre chip. Specifically it's prime 8hr stable at 1.304v @3.8ghz. Load temps on it are 49-53 depending on ambient at time of day. So there's some room to clock it up to 4ghz without passing 1.4v. Sounds ok so far, right? The annoying part is the droop on this board. In order to stay at 1.304v loaded (~1.365v idle), I have to set 1.4v bios. That's a pretty hefty droop. Options at this point are live with it (I don't particularly want to clock the bios over 1.4v) or switch the board to something with better power management to tighten it up a little. The Asus Rampage Extreme comes to mind, and the upcoming 790i FTW sounds interesting).

I'm still mulling it over, and will post pics of the current setup this weekend anyway. Please share any thoughts you have!

You could get an e8600. I know is sounds like a downgrade, but I have been running an 8400 for a month now and love it. This is coming from a q6600 3.8 ghz 24/7 user. Unless you are doing encoding or massively multi threaded work, you will notice a speed INCREASE from going to 2 cores (as long as you are OC'ing the dual to a higher frequency). 4.3 ghz is way faster than 3.8. It is up to you though. Your board is great with dual core chips.

[skinnee]

Not so fast..... I won't finish MINE ever.....:shocked:

Fixed it for ya! :up:

[twwen2]

Haha Skinne & R3.

I'm busting to see full pics, the teaser has done it's job on me dho!:up:

[Loser777]

Is that an ES chip? What model is it?

[dho]

You could get an e8600...

Yeah, it's really tempting. Unfortunately I've been gaming less and working from several VMs at once on my desktop lately, so I really need the quad. Maybe I'll turn this into a vm/crunching box and build a new e8600 gaming one.. hmmmm...


Is that an ES chip? What model is it?

Yep. QX9650 ES c1.

[dho]

Running out of time in the day, so let's get this going. No exterior pics - will have to wait until tomorrow. Here are the interior ones!

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1472_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1436_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1454_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1466_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1475_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1478_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1480_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1473_small.jpg

[MomijiTMO]

OMG those night shots are pure sex. . .. .

[disruptfam]

Finish this up some i can submit ya rig to mdpc :)

Looks great

[twwen2]

Just loverly :D Is the tubing clear or UV reactive as well?

[Arni]

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1472_small.jpg
http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1475_small.jpg

perfect

[Dangals]

love the colour combo - looks great!

[cobra_kai]

love the blue and green combo

[skinnee]

Great shots...colored tubing and uv reactive fluid make for great UV shots.

[Razor_Blade]

Running out of time in the day, so let's get this going. No exterior pics - will have to wait until tomorrow. Here are the interior ones

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1466_small.jpg

I see that you are using the same SB heatsink that I am. What temperatures are you getting with it? I put a fan near it, because it was reading about 75c-80c in Everest. How is yours fairing?

BTW, looks AWESOME! Your build is like my builds' hotter, older sister.

[IanY]

MDPC.. do they pay the featured PC's owner a million dollars? :)

No MM system has won MDPC before ?!? What is that, a Lian Li only club? :)

[disruptfam]

MDPC.. do they pay the featured PC's owner a million dollars? :)

No MM system has won MDPC before ?!? What is that, a Lian Li only club? :)

I wish mate!!!

And no No MM on mdpc but this can be the 1st!!

Lian Li fanclub atm...

[Pellepel]

Aye this might the first woot!

[dho]

I see that you are using the same SB heatsink that I am. What temperatures are you getting with it? I put a fan near it, because it was reading about 75c-80c in Everest. How is yours fairing?

It stinks! I'm picking up an Enzotech SLF-1 tomorrow to put this issue to bed. I have enough flow from that 5.25" bay fan to keep it <60 (:eek:), but you take that away and temps just keep climbing. Stick a scythe s-flex on there and it drops to 45. That's not exactly a permanent solution though.. :rolleyes: What did you end up doing? I'll have to go check your build thread.


Just loverly Is the tubing clear or UV reactive as well?

Thanks! It's Feser UV tubing + Feser UV fluid. The green is the regular green, not acid.

[dho]

Thanks for all the positive feedback, everyone. I really appreciate it! The UV gear really isn't my style at all - I'll probably turn it off before too long - but that's kind of the point. The main reason I like liquid and building in general is the challenge of doing something new and different (for me) every time.

Here are a few more pics. I'm honestly not sure what else to take pictures of, so if you'd like to see something, feel free to ask.

I'm going to write a quick summary post of some things that stood out to me on this build (few words about the mm case, some of the places I ordered from, etc), in case anyone looking for opinions digs this thread up in a search someday. Then that's probably it. It's been a fun few weeks and thanks again for the input. Feel free to post or PM me any time!

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1502_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1503_small.jpg

http://leet.net/dho/lc_200807/IMG_1494_small.jpg

[twwen2]

Nicely done. I really like the blue and green theme. The UV effect is a bit strong in some pics but really nice in others.

One question: Did you use the standard MM bolts to attatch the side panels to the case? Those look more low-profile compared to others i have seen.

[manyga]

Nice work!!

Looking gooD!

[Razor_Blade]

It stinks! I'm picking up an Enzotech SLF-1 tomorrow to put this issue to bed. I have enough flow from that 5.25" bay fan to keep it <60 (:eek:), but you take that away and temps just keep climbing. Stick a scythe s-flex on there and it drops to 45. That's not exactly a permanent solution though.. :rolleyes: What did you end up doing? I'll have to go check your build thread.

:rofl: My sentiments exactly. I have a damn fan pointed at it. It looks awful. I am probably going to replace the NB block with one of the all in one Bitspower blocks, when they come out. That or do the SLF-1, but I doubt that it could keep the temps under control. One thing worth mentioning is that the temperature sensor is not on die for the SB. I believe it is on the wafer surrounding it. If you did what I did, you probably cleaned away all of the thermal paste from the stock mounting. I believe that is why the thermal sensor is going crazy. Not to mention, the stock cooling isn't active for the SB, why should mine be? Ah well, I digress. I just want it to be cooler without being ugly.

[disruptfam]

looks great man!!

try a black bed sheet for a background that would turn out nice

also try these tips...

http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/messages/tutorial/mdpc-photography.jpg

[dho]

One question: Did you use the standard MM bolts to attatch the side panels to the case? Those look more low-profile compared to others i have seen.

I used 1/4" low head black oxdie cap screws from mcmasters.


Line Qty Part Number Unit Price Description
2 4 Packs 92220A141 $8.31 Alloy Steel Low Head Socket Cap Screw 6-32 Thread, 1/4" Length, Packs of 25

Otherwise the case sort of looks like Hellraiser's Pinhead :D


That or do the SLF-1, but I doubt that it could keep the temps under control. One thing worth mentioning is that the temperature sensor is not on die for the SB. I believe it is on the wafer surrounding it. If you did what I did, you probably cleaned away all of the thermal paste from the stock mounting. I believe that is why the thermal sensor is going crazy.

That's good info. I'll let you know how the SLF-1 turns out - hopefully it does the trick. You're right about the paste, it was caked-on all around the chip and I took it all off. Maybe I'll cut a thermal pad around the die to get better contact from the sensor to the sink too.


try a black bed sheet for a background that would turn out nice

also try these tips... {snip}


I'll see what I can do with a black bed sheet. I'm out of town for the next couple of days, but I'll give it a shot this weekend.

As for the tips, that helps, but I think I'm reaching the limit of my abilities or the camera. Maybe it's time for a new one. :cool: Currently (and probably embarrassingly), I'm using a tiny point-and-shoot Canon Powershot SD600 digital elph. Yeah, I really need to upgrade.

[disruptfam]

the pics are quite good tbh.. Just the backround and lighting need a lil work besides that your good mate

[ubermensch]

Wow this turned out to be absolutely stunning! Congrats..

[cobra_kai]

I'm digging those bay reservoirs. Are they the danger den ones?

[Razor_Blade]

Any update on a SB cooling solution? I have 2 active coolers here and I don't know which one I want to use. Did the active Enzotech one work for you?

[dho]

Any update on a SB cooling solution? I have 2 active coolers here and I don't know which one I want to use. Did the active Enzotech one work for you?

Yep, worked out great. SB runs at 45 degrees now 24/7. I tried the mount with and without thermal pads (not on the die, but around) and it made no difference. So there you go!


I'm digging those bay reservoirs. Are they the danger den ones?

They're actually XSPC bay reservoirs (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22012). I have the DD one in one of my other builds though. The XSPC ones are much better - not as deep (which is important in the MM case) and better water channels. To expand on the second point a little more, the XSPC res has a nice cutout over the outlet that protects against air getting into it unless the res is at extremely low water levels. It does a similar trick with the inlet and fill port to prevent turbulence. The acrylic also seems to be a lot thicker on the XSPC res, which is nice if you're going to throw it around the room. Ok, I have no idea why it's thicker, but I suppose you could say it's more resistant to cracking - although I've never had that problem.

[Gir92]

dho, would you mind linking me to where to buy those koolance drains?

Thanks! :)

[dho]

Sure thing, I picked them up here (http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=264). VLV-10TSPL - nickel-plated brass.

[Gir92]

Thanks, I appreciate it. Just wish it weren't 15 bucks for the 1/2" version though.

;(

[IanY]

That drain valve is extremely elegant. My problem with it is how to stuff a bucket under it to collect the water without spilling anything (as opposed to a QD and a long tube leading out of the case).

[NysoO]

Not sure if you've already written this. But what size of compression fittings are those?

[Razor_Blade]

Thanks for the info about the SB, I will try on the EVGA solution first, then the Enzotech. Just for my own information, what voltage are you using on the SB?

[charles_h]

Awesome job on the build dho!

Your photos are great, I especially like the night shots. :)

[mpower1001]

What size tubing?