ASUS GTX 280 TOP compared to ASUS 4870 TOP CrossFire in all 3Dmarks

[Achill3uS]

hi there,
around the weekend i've got few vga's to test from ASUS, so decided to make a 3Dmark roundup (in Vantage tests i didnt used any Physix booster drivers) on just air/water cooling :) btw i was curious to the P5Q3 Deluxe's performance in CF, and it was a surprise, i didnt expected as good scores compared to Rampage Extreme (X48), ive got almost the same results, differences was less than 1% :up:
here is the setup:



Intel E8500
ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe
2*1GB Kingmax DDR3-1600
ASUS GTX 280 TOP 1GB
2*ASUS HD4870 TOP 512MB
WD Raptor 36GB
Ultra X3 1000W

set for stock runs: 4.05GHz, 1800 7-6-5-18
set for OC runs: 4.50GHz, 1600 7-6-5-18

system pics

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4871/gtx280qt5.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtx280qt5.jpg) http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/225/4870cfje7.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4870cfje7.jpg)

so let's see the numbers...

3Dmark01

GTX 280 TOP @ stock clocks [78421]
4870 TOP CF @ stock clocks [81098]

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7434/01stockxt4.th.png (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01stockxt4.png)
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2892/01cfstockcf1.th.png (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01cfstockcf1.png)

GTX 280 TOP @ 750/1300 [87629]
4870 TOP CF @ 850/1000 [89351]

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6374/014500qs4.th.png (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=014500qs4.png)
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2965/01cf4500ay7.th.png (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01cf4500ay7.png)

3Dmark03

GTX 280 TOP @ stock clocks [60005]
4870 TOP CF @ stock clocks [93843]

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5898/03stockfg1.th.png (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03stockfg1.png)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2366/03cfstockrv9.th.png (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03cfstockrv9.png)

GTX 280 TOP @ 730/1250 [65405]
4870 TOP CF @ 850/1000 [99800]

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9256/034500fy2.th.png (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=034500fy2.png)
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1108/03cf4500ay3.th.png (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03cf4500ay3.png)

3Dmark05

GTX 280 TOP @ stock clocks [25231]
4870 TOP CF @ stock clocks [27072]

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/9545/05stockxz6.th.png (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05stockxz6.png)
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5599/05cfstockyd6.th.png (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05cfstockyd6.png)

GTX 280 TOP @ 730/1250 [27743]
4870 TOP CF @ 850/1000 [29688]

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7727/054500pm7.th.png (http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=054500pm7.png)
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7714/05cf4500wp7.th.png (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05cf4500wp7.png)

3Dmark06

GTX 280 TOP @ stock clocks [17843]
4870 TOP CF @ stock clocks [19774]

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4895/06stockfv3.th.png (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06stockfv3.png)
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3830/06cfstocksk6.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06cfstocksk6.png)

GTX 280 TOP @ 730/1250 [19539]
4870 TOP CF @ 850/1000 [21603]

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4422/064500gf9.th.png (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=064500gf9.png)
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/495/06cf4500wq8.th.png (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06cf4500wq8.png)

3Dmark Vantage
Performance

GTX 280 TOP @ stock clocks [10440]
4870 TOP CF @ stock clocks [12768]

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9168/vantagepstockry8.th.png (http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vantagepstockry8.png)
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1213/vantagepcfstockdz6.th.png (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vantagepcfstockdz6.png)

GTX 280 TOP @ 730/1250 [11241]
4870 TOP CF @ 850/1000 [13743]

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8728/vantagep4500sm6.th.png (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vantagep4500sm6.png)
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8757/vantagepcf4500yn4.th.png (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vantagepcf4500yn4.png)

3Dmark Vantage
Extreme

GTX 280 TOP @ stock clocks [5823]
4870 TOP CF @ stock clocks [6232]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4519/vantagexstockad7.th.png (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vantagexstockad7.png)
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8933/vantagexcfstockys4.th.png (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vantagexcfstockys4.png)

GTX 280 TOP @ 730/1250 [6181]
4870 TOP CF @ 850/1000 [7149]

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7448/vantagex4500pm1.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vantagex4500pm1.png)
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4082/vantagexcf4500wn6.th.png (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vantagexcf4500wn6.png)

hope you'll enjoy it ;)
Bala

[SamHughe]

Thanks, I really enjoyed it. Could you also post single 4870 scores for comparison.

[Achill3uS]

Thanks, I really enjoyed it. Could you also post single 4870 scores for comparison.

thanks ;)
sorry but i can't, coz i had to give both 4870 back today, but few weeks ago ive already made a little preview at stock clocks on DDR2 system
ASUS 4870 compared to 4850 in 01,03,05,AM3 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=194199)

[M.Beier]

Sweet!
Didnt realise that the 280 is that huge
Hope you'll fire in X2's in same configuration next month.

[over@locker886]

Very good job bro!:up:

I think, I will test them on balcon, today night have here 12-14C:D

[Achill3uS]

Sweet!
Didnt realise that the 280 is that huge
Hope you'll fire in X2's in same configuration next month.

thanks m8, i hope so :D


Very good job bro!:up:

I think, I will test them on balcon, today night have here 12-14C:D

hehe, thanks bro, and I can say to you one thing: keep pushing it!!!! :lol:

[jugeen]

GJ TM! :up:

[Oliver]

Sweet u little asus top cards...

I look forward to further updates from OCTeamHungary...

Keep pushing it man

[Jim Morbid]

Thanks. Vid cards comparisions are so important these days with so much available and in so many overlapping price brackers (with SLi and CF).

Thanks for a solid review.

JM

[M3kk]

Good job gyurma :D.

[Leeghoofd]

Nice comparison Achill3us, hope you can prove tweaktown wrong with our humble p45 chipset... though 3dmarks there were basically the same there yet games differed big time....

[Achill3uS]

thank you so much the kind words guys :)

[OBR]

where are games test? Go to hell with stupid benches ...

i am working on huge comparision in 16 games ... X48 Express vs P45 Express CF 4870 TOP (here is my own test HD4870 vs GTX 260 in czech language : http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11257&Itemid=44 )

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/obermaier/Newsky/srpen_08/blog_1.jpg

Cards Boxes ...

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/obermaier/Newsky/srpen_08/blog_5.jpg

Asus Rampage Extreme - X48 Express DDR3

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/obermaier/Newsky/srpen_08/blog_9.jpg

AsRock P45 Express - P45 Express DDR3

[systemviper]

whre are games test? Go to hell with stupid benches ...


Benches, i don't need no stinking benches,

hey ORB hows that Evga 790i, you like that board?

[Lestat]

i dont know about anyone else but those MASSIVE differences in scores are really making want to go buy some crossfire, and bigger power supply and xfire board with 16x16x lanes,,, oh yeah... i'm all over that.

if those scores are legit,, and the tests were done correctly then 4870 xfire isnt worth the money... and once again we are faced another truth that we should be seeing ANY xfire setup or SLI setup just crush a single card scenerio when in fact it is not happening.

3dmark 03 is the only thing that really showed any type true single vs dual card advantage..
the others show a negligable difference that when weighed out against the cost of xfire board, 2nd card, big enough psu,, well.... that single GTX looks pretty damn sweet.

but OBR you are correct, screw the benches, let's see some flippin game scores, cuz thats where it really counts.

[Achill3uS]

OBR & Lestat you're right, we need game benches to get know the real performance differences... :nono: BUT this is XS, a lot of guys "playing" with 3Dmarks, btw take a look, a lot of hw forums testing only games, i dont care about them so much :D so if you are looking for a card for 6-700$ you have this 2 choice, single GTX or CF, and like Lestat said except 03, there is not so big difference in marks, for one GPU i think its really impressive...
looking fwd to see your chipset compare test OBR ;)

[Kondik]

I somehow Agree with ORB [ maybe because nationality similarity ? :D ]

The thing i don't like is Comparing 2x4870 vs one core 280 because they cost the same...
The heck ? It's like apples and pineapples , both are fruit but they're different.

And i sold my CF 4870 solutin ang got one 280 because the ATI driver support drove me mad, 8.7 beta core driver was 8.52 , Final 8.7 core driver 8.51 ... like what ?
And 4870 CF is 30% More expensive here than one 280GTX

And as I see from the ORB's review two completley different cards similar results.
Game creators lazyness.

There are games where ATI creams nVIDIA, then there are games where is the oppostie. So the games are nearly the same [ come on if I play with 120 FPS or 135 will i see the difference ? No ... Tbh i wouldn't care if all cards had 60 FPS on all resolutions ] The only difference that's noticeable is the 3D Mark that Xtreme Systems members love, but that's not reality... I'm kinda getting more and more confuser in this swirl of Cards.

Nvidia has now raw power , ATI technology , 2 different approaches ... similar ending.

Yes both Cards are amazing if the price is the issue then proppably ATI because the performace is same or little different and the price is lower but there are still people that would preffer nVidia because of no particular reason [ drivers maybe those from ATI suck hard and deep ] People without much budged would go and buy 4850, the richer [ working ] part of the population would go and buy 4870 if they don't mid the heating problems, and there is a part of population that will buy 280 GTX because it is the strongest 1 core solution and they don't give a damn what's the price. So everyone that knows a bit more about those cards will buy what he want's and that who doesn't know will ask and will buy the card the majority votes.


Just my 5 eurocents

[J.D.]

@Achill3uS or ORB Can you the Bios for the ASUS Top upload on Techpowerup? :up:

[Swatrecon_]

So it seems the 4870's perform as advertised. The R700 drivers for them haven't even been released yet have they?

[over@locker886]

where are games test? Go to hell with stupid benches ...


Relax man..Some people interest games, some people interest benchmarks ,and lot of hw sites and magazines no testing benchmarks..so Achill3uS presented, and I think very useful informations for overclockers, what have a lot on XS.;)

[Solarfall]

Relax man..Some people interest games, some people interest benchmarks ,and lot of hw sites and magazines no testing benchmarks..so Achill3uS presented, and I think very useful informations for overclockers, what have a lot on XS.;)

i agree with you.. LOL i haven't played any games for ages now... I'm possessed by 3dmark + other benchmarking programs now a days :D:D

[angelicavoc]

nice review....:)
how about another bech ??? like pcmark..:)

[hiwa]

thanks man for time :clap::clap::clap: that's very important for all :up:

[J.D.]

@Achill3uS or ORB Can you the Bios for the ASUS Top upload on Techpowerup? :up:

PLEASE :)

[GAR]

ASUS puts the ugliest stickers on their cards, what a turn off.

[purecain]

@obr- why bash the original post, which shows crossfire beating the 280 across the board....

if you dont like it make your own thread and post ingame results...

i dont get the bad attitude at all.... this is XS not eocf...

[SofT]

nice reiews and nice compared congrats

[Felipe]

and results 4870 single vga? great job

[Leeghoofd]

ASUS puts the ugliest stickers on their cards, what a turn off.

you don't even see the stickers GAR when it's in ya case... or does ya lady dislike them :) (or was it ya sister )

For the comparison : look at it like this : single GPU compared it rocks... compared with dual GPU's it get's beaten... price performance it get's beaten too (but due to the price drops the gap has closed) ... but overal it's one fab card...

I kindda like it as a single GPU offer

[Red Evil]

yep single gpu is win

[Garrett]

I see I bought the right card, 280 :up:
Besides, CF is still too buggy in games, single gpu is NEVER buggy :up: