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elmor
07-16-2008, 12:54 PM
I just got this board today so I thought that sharing some results would be appropriate. I will add pics and more results later.

E8400 Q811A (only one in stock at local store)
Rampage Extreme (retail, bios 0301)
A-Data EE PC3-12800 CL7

Cooled by AC Freezer 7 Pro, no additional fans.

Here's what I've managed today:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=389997

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/screenshot/389997.png

Further testing including subzero will hopefully be up soon.

update:

VTT: 1.55v
VPLL: 1.55v
VNB: 1.789v

Bandwidth Everest Ultimate 4.50:

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/1/288/640everest.jpg

3DMark06:

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/1/288/6353dm06.jpg

update2:

Pics of the board, courtesy of Kinc.

http://kinc.se/rampex/board1.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/board2.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/board3.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/flashback.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/fusion.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/fusion2.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/hidenscap.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/hidenscap2.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/irog.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/mosfetalt.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/nbfan.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/sb.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/supremefx.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/tweakit.jpg

http://kinc.se/rampex/tweakit2.jpg

On the fly FSB OC and voltage change rocks :)

Eldonko
07-16-2008, 01:00 PM
Dam, great start!

philbrown23
07-16-2008, 01:02 PM
wow OMFG!! why is my maximus so :gay:

subaruwrc
07-16-2008, 01:04 PM
I just got this board today so I thought that sharing some results would be appropriate. I will add pics and more results later.

E8400 Q811A (only one in stock at local store)
Rampage Extreme (retail, bios 0301)
A-Data EE PC3-12800 CL7

Cooled by AC Freezer 7 Pro, no additional fans.

Here's what I've managed today:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=389997

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/screenshot/389997.png

Further testing including subzero will hopefully be up soon.

:shocked: great start. waiting for subzero tests. congrats. :up:

merlot_14
07-17-2008, 11:40 AM
nice work! wouldn't mind seeing it go a bit higher tho ;)

elmor
07-17-2008, 11:57 AM
Updated first post with bandwidth and 3d stability. ASUS 8800GTS 512 TOP at stock used for 3DMark06.

Oh, and check out that write bandwidth :eek:

3oh6
07-17-2008, 12:03 PM
thanks for the update Elmor :up: 630+ PL9 3D stable is very encouraging.

now...will retail samples hit these numbers or are we going to have to be sifting through a half dozen boards to find a decent one?

oh and the read bandwidth is alright, but it has nothing on 790i at much much lower FSB :D (gotta stir the pot when i can)

elmor
07-17-2008, 12:20 PM
thanks for the update Elmor :up: 630+ PL9 3D stable is very encouraging.

now...will retail samples hit these numbers or are we going to have to be sifting through a half dozen boards to find a decent one?

oh and the read bandwidth is alright, but it has nothing on 790i at much much lower FSB :D (gotta stir the pot when i can)

I think this board should be about average, check how much VNB I need for that speed :D OPB said he needed only ~1.5-1.6v for about the same freq/speed.

And on the 790i topic, read is lower by 1-2000mb/s on X48. But X48 is still faster, if you wanna know why, check that memory write speed ;)

3oh6
07-17-2008, 01:06 PM
I think this board should be about average, check how much VNB I need for that speed :D OPB said he needed only ~1.5-1.6v for about the same freq/speed.

And on the 790i topic, read is lower by 1-2000mb/s on X48. But X48 is still faster, if you wanna know why, check that memory write speed ;)
yeah, i was just looking at the voltages you guys are running and it is definitely very positive looking.

if we could get 630+ 790i's then write would come up nicely but your definitely right, still can't quite get the Intel chipsets in overall read/write. it is also fun seeing the 1080MHz memory on the RE from over@locker886. i am seriously considering biting the bullet, despite my terrible P5E3-Premium experience. just the thought of a $500 board is crazy...and i fully expect the RE to be $500 up here in Canada, or damn close.

Eldonko
07-17-2008, 01:09 PM
Yep, it's not gunna be cheap that's for sure.

Viss
07-17-2008, 01:11 PM
Tempting.... Evo does nice FSB as wel but unfortunately only 1/1 here. It better be out soon :D

Gautam
07-17-2008, 01:13 PM
My wallet is already crying out in sheer agony.

HousERaT
07-17-2008, 01:23 PM
My wallet is already crying out in sheer agony.
Ha ha.... considering going back to the red camp? ;)

zlojack
07-17-2008, 01:31 PM
Wow!

That's some serious FSB love right there!

hiwa
07-17-2008, 01:50 PM
thnks for sharing :up:

pl for 655 fsb?

elmor
07-17-2008, 10:12 PM
thnks for sharing :up:

pl for 655 fsb?

Auto in bios, think it was at 13. It's very doable with the same settings that I ran 3D and bandwidth tests but no point in tight settings for suicide shot :p:

nfm
07-17-2008, 10:18 PM
Hi my friend,
Did we mention this board features 16-phase power and Fujitsu high density ML-3 solid capacitors ;). If you get a chance pop in a quad and compare max fbs with other boards you might tried before, and see how hot the PWM area gets on the motherboard when you prime a quad +1.5 or +1.6v :yepp:
Thanks

Kinc
07-17-2008, 11:04 PM
Nice start Elmor!

Give tweakit a spin and see how it can maximize your score in 3Dmark 06 by chaning clock speeds for different tests :)

elmor
07-18-2008, 12:41 AM
Updated top post with pics, thanks Marcus.


Hi my friend,
Did we mention this board features 16-phase power and Fujitsu high density ML-3 solid capacitors ;). If you get a chance pop in a quad and compare max fbs with other boards you might tried before, and see how hot the PWM area gets on the motherboard when you prime a quad +1.5 or +1.6v :yepp:
Thanks

Yup, the features of this board really live up to it's surname. At 1.5v+ my quad will burn up with my current cpu cooling :D I'll be away this weekend so might not be able to get some quad results until next week, will try to make it today though.


Nice start Elmor!

Give tweakit a spin and see how it can maximize your score in 3Dmark 06 by chaning clock speeds for different tests :)

This board will surely shine in 3DMark06 along with some 4870X2s :D

Envydia007
07-18-2008, 02:22 AM
When is this board coming out? And is it going to be DDR3 only ?

Viss
07-18-2008, 02:43 AM
Formula is DDR2, xtreme DDR3

M.Beier
07-18-2008, 02:48 AM
Looks very good Elm,
I really hope it isnt the usual ASUS stuff where only a few samples are good, but the entire line will be... I've seen 2 good boards so far...
And nice BW for the given frequency! (can be bursted by 2-300 by a few changes in memset, FYI)

Hazzan
07-18-2008, 02:50 AM
nice.....that my next board.............:):) when ready on market ?? :)

nut311
07-18-2008, 04:46 AM
http://kinc.se/rampex/tweakit2.jpg

On the fly FSB OC and voltage change rocks :)

No more restart:up: no more VR?hehehehe Nice Ramapage..Cool Heatpipe, maybe looking next my mobo, Ordered:rofl:

Trigger5521
07-18-2008, 04:46 AM
That fusion block is aluminum yes?

elmor
07-18-2008, 05:00 AM
That fusion block is aluminum yes?

Nope, all copper.

splmann
07-18-2008, 05:06 AM
@elmor

Wath was the diffrence in max fsb from this Board to your standart benchboard with the same CPU ?

Anemone
07-18-2008, 05:08 AM
It looks like a Cu base with a coated alum top. But it looks like it comes off very easy, without removing all the cooling so we could pop on a block of choice.

elmor
07-18-2008, 05:12 AM
@elmor

Wath was the diffrence in max fsb from this Board to your standart benchboard with the same CPU ?

3D benchable at 600Mhz with P5E64 WS Evolution, validation at 625Mhz with EP45-DS3.

dood001
07-18-2008, 05:35 AM
Did the board come with bios 0301? And you flashed to bios 0401? Is it beta bios?

Logos
07-18-2008, 05:43 AM
ETA August, September :confused:

elmor
07-18-2008, 06:00 AM
The board came with 0121. I believe 0401 is beta yes.

I heard it will be in stores in (the beginning of) August.

FatboyHK
07-18-2008, 11:20 AM
Look at the supreme fx card, it is now an x-fi powered card.... That's kinda strange isn't it?

Asus now has its own brand of sound card, and they are pretty serious about the sound card market. I can't believe they will bring X-Fi into their premium motherboard product line.

and there were some shots being fired between Creative and Asus, over the EAX5 implementation. I don't believe it is the right time 2 companies would sleep in the same bed and make something together (love or something else, like a sound card)

I agree that they really need to bundle a better card then (the original) supreme fx. Com'on, if you can spend a premium price to buy a top of the line motherboard, there is a high chance that you will buy a decent sound card too. I end up paying more that a cheapy sound card that you won't use. And seem you can't use it on other computer also.... complete waste

Bundling a X-Fi card is technically a good move, assuming that it is really a decent card instead of just a marketing gimmick. However I really wonder why it would happen, on a business perspective....

Hardware-wise, is there any real difference between this and the previous supreme fx card? I really wanna know.

Logos
07-18-2008, 11:48 AM
Look at the supreme fx card, it is now an x-fi powered card.... That's kinda strange isn't it?

Asus now has its own brand of sound card, and they are pretty serious about the sound card market. I can't believe they will bring X-Fi into their premium motherboard product line.

and there were some shots being fired between Creative and Asus, over the EAX5 implementation.

agreed, fully incomprehensible :shrug: Creative Labs have been sweating from Asus making their own sound cards now, customers seem to like the new cards, and Asus introducing its competitor's technology on their motherboard...:shrug:
There's something we obviously don't know...:confused: Could be that the Xonar...OK pure speculation...Asus could be paying for something...and the "Supreme X-Fi" could be the price...if anyone has a better idea, or is in the know, you're welcome to share ;)

hiwa
07-18-2008, 11:54 AM
if can 3d run with a 8500 and max multi with low PL will be best mobo for dual clockers :D

600 X10 with a 8600 :eek::eek: pl?:rolleyes:

WhiteFireDragon
07-18-2008, 12:28 PM
any leaks on how much it will be? i'm guessing around $350

zlojack
07-18-2008, 12:39 PM
any leaks on how much it will be? i'm guessing around $350
Doubt it...

The Striker II Extreme is still over $400. I imagine this one will be, too.

Red Evil
07-18-2008, 12:46 PM
About 250€

slim142
07-18-2008, 12:46 PM
I still cant find what the iRog feature does and what are the two chips for?

I guess this will be $400-$450

zlojack
07-18-2008, 12:52 PM
I still wanna see what it looks like naked :D

Red Evil
07-18-2008, 12:53 PM
Looking at block mounting, any idea which EK block will fit or none?

Chri$ch
07-18-2008, 02:31 PM
any leaks on how much it will be? i'm guessing around $350
in germany ~340EUR incl vat (thats ~USD540) :down:

cool_case
07-18-2008, 07:49 PM
Nice run Elmor!! Is the E8400 a cherry-picked chip?

Sampsa
07-19-2008, 12:10 AM
Also testing the board with:

QX9770 (C1)
Several DDR3-1600 kits
ATI Radeon HD 4870 CrossFireX

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/rampage1.jpg

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/rampage2.jpg

TweakIt feature works great and changes voltages and FSB in milliseconds on the fly.

Currently trying to stabilize settings to get 450 MHz FSB and 1800 MHz 7-6-6-8 1T memory settings stable.

I'll try with cascade when I find optimal settings for high FSB/memory speed :)

fng77
07-19-2008, 03:33 AM
That board makes my Maximus Exteme look like a toy. Well maybe not, but still, what a board :shocked:

elmor
07-19-2008, 03:57 AM
Looking forward to your results Sampsa.


Nice run Elmor!! Is the E8400 a cherry-picked chip?

No, just walked down to the local store and got it. Got lucky I guess :)

Oliver
07-19-2008, 04:20 AM
Awesome work bro...

WIll have an eye on u...

Keep pushing it...

ZillaPct
07-19-2008, 04:57 AM
3DMark06:

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/1/288/6353dm06.jpg



This PL is possible because you use Cas 7 on memory, if you use Cas timing 8 PL min is 10....;)

When Engineer stabilize ratio 1:2 in high frequency this board is valid solution on Intel X48.

The glismo voltage control is difficult to use with two vga on board, and the heatpipe castle is problem with intensive Ln2 use.


One question your EPU engine work correctly with high voltage?

cool_case
07-19-2008, 09:59 AM
in germany ~340EUR incl vat (thats ~USD540) :down:

What percent is the vat?

eternal_fantasy
07-19-2008, 10:54 AM
According to OCUK the board should be avaliable next week in the UK... 25th July to be precise;

OCUK Rampage Extreme page (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-284-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1050&name=Asus%20Rampage%20Extreme%20Intel%20X48%20(Soc ket%20775)%20PCI-Express%20DDR3%20Motherboard)

for £270 !!!

elmor
07-22-2008, 01:55 PM
I have started some RAM testing. Here's with 2x2GB OCZ PC3-12800 EB Platinum.

7-6-6-18-2T 1.9vDimm

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/1/288/8007661985vdimm1418vnb.jpg

zbogorgon
07-22-2008, 01:56 PM
why can't I get this board :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Chri$ch
07-22-2008, 02:10 PM
What percent is the vat?
19% vat

Sampsa
07-22-2008, 02:26 PM
I could get my new QX9770 C1 3DMark stable @ 440 - 445 MHz FSB (Memory 7-6-6-18 1T @ 1760 - 1780 MHz DDR) which is not very good result at all.

When I switched to cascade cooling the results were even more disappointing. If I adjusted anything above 1.7V from BIOS and Load Line calibration was enabled the system just shut down immediately when I tried 3DMark06 CPU-test.

Without Load Line Calibration I could adjust for example 1,85V from BIOS but LCD-display showed 1,75V in idle and voltage dropped to ~1,65 under load... not very good either.

I was able to run 3DMark06 only @ 4925 MHz with 1,7V (Load Line Calibration enabled) and LCD display/CPU-Z showed 1,688V.

I guess BIOS (0401) needs couple of bugs fixed for higher Vcore. I'll try tomorrow with P5E64 WS Evolution and see if my QX9770 C1 does any better.

Viss
07-22-2008, 02:36 PM
LLC on Evo is a disaster as wel unfortunately. Set at perf/auto results in bsod here, same settings LLC standard is fine though :confused:

ACE76
07-22-2008, 06:45 PM
Such a shame that these awesome boards (Evo & Rampage) are having vcore issues. The Rampage is supposed to have this new 16 phase power too...sad because I really thought that this board would shine where the Evo lacked in proper power delivery.

I wish DFI would come out with some new BIOSes to fix up their UT DDR3 X48board because it seems if you are gonna go sub-zero, that's probably gonna be your best bet.

Holmer
07-22-2008, 11:00 PM
I could get my new QX9770 C1 3DMark stable @ 440 - 445 MHz FSB (Memory 7-6-6-18 1T @ 1760 - 1780 MHz DDR) which is not very good result at all.

When I switched to cascade cooling the results were even more disappointing. If I adjusted anything above 1.7V from BIOS and Load Line calibration was enabled the system just shut down immediately when I tried 3DMark06 CPU-test.

Without Load Line Calibration I could adjust for example 1,85V from BIOS but LCD-display showed 1,75V in idle and voltage dropped to ~1,65 under load... not very good either.

I was able to run 3DMark06 only @ 4925 MHz with 1,7V (Load Line Calibration enabled) and LCD display/CPU-Z showed 1,688V.

I guess BIOS (0401) needs couple of bugs fixed for higher Vcore. I'll try tomorrow with P5E64 WS Evolution and see if my QX9770 C1 does any better.

Now that was truely disappointing. No question the real test for highend boards is with a quad and 2x2 GB RAM running 1:2.
I would love to hear about more results with the Rampage Extreme and Yorkfields and 2x2 GB RAM. With my Evolution I am forced to run 9.5x426 since 9x450 is not stable with memory 1:2and I know it is the board holding me back (NB) - sux. And I am also forced to set LLC to Normal to avoid random BSOD (the v-drop is roughly 0.1V :mad:)

elmor
07-22-2008, 11:29 PM
More RAM testing.

4x1GB 8-8-8-24-2T 2.2v A-data PC3-12800 CL7 + Kingston PC3-14400 CL8

http://www.bandwidth.se/imgs/1/288/9504g8882200vdimm1630vnb.jpg

2x1GB 9-9-9-27-1T 2.093v Kingston PC3-14400 CL8

http://www.bandwidth.se/imgs/1/288/10669992093vdimm1630vnb.jpg

eternal_fantasy
07-23-2008, 03:15 AM
Just had a thought.. how do you avoid crushing the huge SL cap under the CPU socket (backside) when you need to use a backplate for a waterblock or even a heavy HSF? Is there a special backplate in the box? or have to make do without one? :confused:

Vivi
07-23-2008, 12:58 PM
speciaal backplate included if im not mistaken. i saw obp have one and mention u have to use it

any definate release date yet?

eternal_fantasy
07-23-2008, 01:25 PM
speciaal backplate included if im not mistaken. i saw obp have one and mention u have to use it

any definate release date yet?

Cool, do you have a link to the page? I couldn't find it using the search..:(

I have seen from 2 sources that at least in the UK the Rampage Extreme is arriving this friday the 25th;

OCUK (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-284-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1050&name=Asus%20Rampage%20Extreme%20Intel%20X48%20(Soc ket%20775)%20PCI-Express%20DDR3%20Motherboard)
Scan (http://forums.hexus.net/scan-care-hexus/143545-asus-rampage-extreme-availability.html#post1478978)

So depending on your location they should arrive very soon. :D


edit: looking at the content of the box at http://www.xfastest.com/viewthread.php?tid=11417 there don't seem to be a backplate.. :( Hope they just missed it in the photoshoot

Vivi
07-23-2008, 02:24 PM
THE 25TH. AWESOME!!!

hmm. il link you now hold on


ahh here u go. Dont know if its included in box, but here is the Asus backplate

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpost.php?p=47417&postcount=3

LOL dude i live in South Africa thats on the very bottom tip of africa lol. far from Everything. but we up to date and up to date with Tech :)

eternal_fantasy
07-23-2008, 09:54 PM
Thanks for the link Vivi2, I have found other sites that show using different backplate for the Rampage Formula, so obviously it is not included in the retail package...

Tried googling for compatible backplate, but no UK retailer had any that misses the ML cap. Any suggestions those that have already played around with this board? what do you guys use?

Whokidmo
07-23-2008, 10:16 PM
that picture is of the back plate of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835101011
see it doesn't come with it, i think some other companies use the same design but im not sure... any other questions?

corross
07-24-2008, 06:17 AM
270GBP=342EUR :eek:

VAT is 19% in Germany. But you don't need to pay this VAT for shipping from the UK to Germany. (Both countrys are part of the EU).;)

OBR
07-24-2008, 09:43 AM
This mobo is magical, really best Intel chipset mobo ive had ...

kenblat
07-25-2008, 08:20 AM
Very nice results Elmor, do you have a link for BIOS 0401? I tried 0206 and 0301 have Vcore bug while over 1.7Volt + enable Loadline Calibration Vcore jump up to nearly 1.9V :eek: hahaha last time we put some 1.95Volt BIOS for our 8400 i think CPU eat over 2.1Volt already :mad: this CPU gonna die soon :shrug::shakes:

Maxx102
07-25-2008, 04:34 PM
OMG, I think I just pee-ed myself in excitement......that is a very nice looking board. Looks like another board has joined the darkside with the black heatsinks.

Kondik
07-26-2008, 01:48 AM
Allright , where is the nearest trashcan ? I'm going to throow my new Rampage there and will wait for this masterpiece, it looks amazing , it is amazing. I don't care about the price and I'm crying while writing this post ... Gimme !

MnM
07-26-2008, 05:50 AM
The guys with the motherboards: I am planning to get one too when it gets released. What memory would you recommend for it? (looking at 4gb/8gb config).

Holmer
07-26-2008, 10:33 PM
Could anybody owning the Rampage Extreme please test it with a Yorkfield (QX9650) and if possible with 2x2 GB memory? The board looks amazing for FSB OC on Wolfdales but what about with quads? I have only seen Sampsa testing with a 9770 and it was very disappointing (FSB around 445).

Felipe
07-27-2008, 03:36 AM
nice review!!

MnM
07-27-2008, 03:53 AM
Could anybody owning the Rampage Extreme please test it with a Yorkfield (QX9650) and if possible with 2x2 GB memory? The board looks amazing for FSB OC on Wolfdales but what about with quads? I have only seen Sampsa testing with a 9770 and it was very disappointing (FSB around 445).

If rampage extreme if a flop with quads what elase is out there that can give good overclocking for quads?

Kinc
07-27-2008, 07:37 AM
Could anybody owning the Rampage Extreme please test it with a Yorkfield (QX9650) and if possible with 2x2 GB memory? The board looks amazing for FSB OC on Wolfdales but what about with quads? I have only seen Sampsa testing with a 9770 and it was very disappointing (FSB around 445).


I tested very quickly and managed to run 490MHz (I get about 480MHz on P5E64 Evolution with the same cpu) with not much hazzel in 3DMark 06. That is with vcore nb voltage tweaking only (so there is more left). With air cooling and no fan on the NB what so ever. Also, the board is very tight clock vs clock, much like the good old Blitz.

Will provide screens after my next tests on LN2.

Infa
07-27-2008, 11:05 AM
oh man i've been waiting for this board!! thought in would never come, and now it shines in performance and options like never before!
but a wallet hole it will be, 3000kr here in swe, 31euro~ or more or less translated 500 dollares :) quite expensive, but have done it before when maximus came, costed me 500$ and it sucked in FSB Wise, never got it over 500, but thats another story , i will and i WILL get this board, just for the fun of tweaking new stuff, am i unusal? hehe

cheers!

Holmer
07-27-2008, 12:08 PM
I tested very quickly and managed to run 490MHz (I get about 480MHz on P5E64 Evolution with the same cpu) with not much hazzel in 3DMark 06. That is with vcore nb voltage tweaking only (so there is more left). With air cooling and no fan on the NB what so ever. Also, the board is very tight clock vs clock, much like the good old Blitz.

Will provide screens after my next tests on LN2.

Thank you very much, that sounds promissing. Looking forward to more longterm quad tests (maybe with 2x2 GB memory ;-). That is where this borad will stand the true test.

MnM
07-27-2008, 03:31 PM
I tested very quickly and managed to run 490MHz (I get about 480MHz on P5E64 Evolution with the same cpu) with not much hazzel in 3DMark 06. That is with vcore nb voltage tweaking only (so there is more left). With air cooling and no fan on the NB what so ever. Also, the board is very tight clock vs clock, much like the good old Blitz.

Will provide screens after my next tests on LN2.

Thanks Kinc. DO you have tests with 2x2gb of ram or more?

Also do you kow when this board will retail?

Infa
07-28-2008, 01:45 AM
its allready retail more or less. any day now .. ETA 25-31 july here in swe.

rob2k
07-28-2008, 04:11 AM
Now in stock at www.overclockers.co.uk !!

rob2k
07-28-2008, 04:35 AM
Mine is arriving tomorrow.

Any heads up on the 0401 bios download or a later one ?.

Thanks.

Infa
07-28-2008, 05:05 AM
yeah i saw a link here for 403 bios, trying to find it, i almost ordered it, but 41£ IN SHIPPING to sweden, thats redicilous... :(

rob2k
07-28-2008, 06:04 AM
Ouch ! that's steep getting it sent to Sweden.

Thanks for the post Infa, I found 0403 bios on this thread :-

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196114&highlight=0401

Looks like there are at least 3 threads on this forum now for this board. Hopefully this one becomes the main one for user experiences and advice for settings.
Moving from an Asus Strike II Extreme so looking forward to getting some good memory results with this board and better cooling on air using the heatpipe NB cooler.

Felipe
07-28-2008, 08:10 AM
nice results & photos great job

day187
07-28-2008, 08:20 AM
Just got my 10 mins ago £270 :D let the fun begin...

eternal_fantasy
07-28-2008, 08:36 AM
Just got my 10 mins ago £270 :D let the fun begin...

Picked up stright from OCUK huh.. lucky you!!


2x will be arriving here tomorrow!!:up::up:

day187
07-28-2008, 09:27 AM
Picked up stright from OCUK huh.. lucky you!!


2x will be arriving here tomorrow!!:up::up:

yeah i live 100 steps away from overclokers :D they are my neighbours,

rockqc
07-28-2008, 11:49 AM
Any chance someone can measure the spacing distance on the NB (for mounting other water blocks) ?

trans am
07-28-2008, 12:04 PM
lets see more quad results.
try to get into the 520mhz range.
This was on the p5e-vm best quad oc board i've seen yet.
x38 / p5e3 dlx same cpu would crap around 490fsb.

rob2k
07-29-2008, 03:24 AM
Anyone else up and running yet on this new board ?.

Mine is arriving today so just un-installed nvidia drivers from my Striker II Extreme hoping that I can get away without having to do a clean Vista install after the mobo swap.

eternal_fantasy
07-29-2008, 06:25 AM
Got mine few moments ago, initial impression is its amazing build quality.
I can confirm that the Fusion waterblock is indeed copper, with some kind of fat pin structure inside.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2713933882_e1804987fc_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3032/2713125317_03114da9f8_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/2713942092_7e963a4275_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/2713133241_0cfaa8fdc9_b.jpg

Also not only the RAM mosfets are cooled with its own heatsink, the NB's mosfets&co are also in direct contact with the heatpipe system, with all the thermal pad/compound. :up::up::up:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/2713137089_91b7fc4d25_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2713953738_3b68279fb0_b.jpg


However as you can see from the last picture the thermal pad is not actually touching the mosfet. After reseating everything and some light modding everything fits snugly.

You can also stick some low profile ramsink on the mosfets for the NB on the back of the board.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2713222051_30bcfbb5b9_b.jpg
The last lone mosfet I will leave to the awsomeness of the STACK COOL 2:p:

Nothing quite like a little overkill:D:D

sargatanas
07-29-2008, 08:08 AM
just a silly one...but would an EK block fit instead of the Fuzion block?

Kriffith
07-29-2008, 09:10 AM
what kind of tubing fits on the fusion block? Guess I can't use compression fittings?

slim142
07-29-2008, 09:11 AM
I understand that heatsink is AMAZING (comparing it to the other ROG heatsinks), but is that block safe to use? Seems better than the other Fusion blocks...

slim142
07-29-2008, 09:37 AM
what kind of tubing fits on the fusion block? Guess I can't use compression fittings?

Im pretty sure 3/8 like every other block.

eternal_fantasy
07-29-2008, 11:58 AM
what kind of tubing fits on the fusion block? Guess I can't use compression fittings?
I'm currently using 10/8mm directly over it, seems to fit pretty snugly, with worm clamps so I don't accidentally pull it out :D
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/2714871144_1fcfeeafab_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3292/2714061919_ae1ab3147b_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2714882310_b716afd8e0_b.jpg


I understand that heatsink is AMAZING (comparing it to the other ROG heatsinks), but is that block safe to use? Seems better than the other Fusion blocks...
Safe how? material? leak? restriction? fitting?

cool_case
07-29-2008, 01:18 PM
Hey - way to go Eternal!The board looks great. We're still not able to get it in the US.

How did you fit the cpu waterblock backplate on over the little chip in that area on the back of the board?

Thanks ...

eternal_fantasy
07-29-2008, 02:11 PM
Hey - way to go Eternal!The board looks great. We're still not able to get it in the US.

How did you fit the cpu waterblock backplate on over the little chip in that area on the back of the board?

Thanks ...

You should be able to get them soon enough.. they just showed up in huge quantities here in the UK.

Been wondering the same question before I got my RE, and ended up buying Asus Silent Square Pro HSF for its backplate that has the recess right behind the CPU socket where the ML is. It has the metal plate and not plastic that comes with other Asus HSFs, although you need to mod it a little as the CPU choker's legs really sticks out the back.
The plastic ones also works without modding though.:up:

cool_case
07-29-2008, 04:14 PM
You should be able to get them soon enough.. they just showed up in huge quantities here in the UK.

Been wondering the same question before I got my RE, and ended up buying Asus Silent Square Pro HSF for its backplate that has the recess right behind the CPU socket where the ML is. It has the metal plate and not plastic that comes with other Asus HSFs, although you need to mod it a little as the CPU choker's legs really sticks out the back.
The plastic ones also works without modding though.:up:
Thanks Eternal ...

Yeh - I was thinking that ASUS plate was going to be the best bet. Not sure if it will work with my LN2 setup, but will give it a try. Prob need a little modding.

:)

tekjunkie
07-29-2008, 05:34 PM
Eternal, if it's not too much trouble, could you please find out how your SSDs perform on the ICH9R on this board. I kinda see that you have connected it to your raid card(or is it)and I know that its a full OS reinstall if you wanna connect it to the SB of the board. I am thinking going SSD route(OCZ core series or heck might even shelve out for the MTRON PROs) and also planning two 4870x2s in crossfire X, leaving no room for a controller. I saw ICH9R does not play very well with the SSDs but I so want this board. Please disregard if this is too much of trouble.

saaya
07-29-2008, 07:03 PM
finger tweaking fun LOL :lol:

awesome heatsink design :toast:

slim142
07-29-2008, 07:20 PM
Safe how? material? leak? restriction? fitting?

Material and restriction. Is the block any different than the Maximus/Striker block besides the color?

sargatanas
07-29-2008, 09:18 PM
are there any pics yet without the heatsink?
haven't found anything at all :(

slim142
07-29-2008, 09:40 PM
Wait for Anandtech review

rob2k
07-29-2008, 11:13 PM
Great pics Eternal and good to see some familiar faces Slim & T.J....

Spent most of last night fitting the passive heatsinks to the board and modding my Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme heatsink backplate to miss the Fujitsu chip.

Got a touch condition to the heatsink at the top of the board and about 2mm clearance to the NB passive cooler so really hoping that it doesn't lift the sink away from the CPU otherwise I will have to mod the chipset heatsink or change the Thermalright to my Zalman CNPS9500A - Zalman backplate for this is fine without any mods.

rabor
07-30-2008, 12:43 AM
yeah i saw a link here for 403 bios, trying to find it, i almost ordered it, but 41£ IN SHIPPING to sweden, thats redicilous... :(Just wait a couple more days, then the really cheap German shops will add their stocks to the list (http://geizhals.eu/a353500.html). I'm guessing I will have one delivered to the Netherlands for € 290,- max.

rob2k
07-30-2008, 12:44 AM
Think i'll take the red cover off and bend the pins over slightly so that there is no contact to the heatpipe.

Should have the system up and running tonight.

eternal_fantasy
07-30-2008, 01:03 AM
Eternal, if it's not too much trouble, could you please find out how your SSDs perform on the ICH9R on this board. I kinda see that you have connected it to your raid card(or is it)and I know that its a full OS reinstall if you wanna connect it to the SB of the board. I am thinking going SSD route(OCZ core series or heck might even shelve out for the MTRON PROs) and also planning two 4870x2s in crossfire X, leaving no room for a controller. I saw ICH9R does not play very well with the SSDs but I so want this board. Please disregard if this is too much of trouble.
Yeah I have my SSDs connected to the Areca. Why I brought the card in the first place is because the ICH9R on the origional Maximus Extreme I was using at the time bottlenecked my SSD to just under 100MB/s from a potential 120MB/s. Here is what I got with 2x Mtron 120MB/s on the ICH9R on ME:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/HDTach_Mtron_RAID0_4K.jpg?t=1217406438

And here is the HDTach after using the Areca:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/Areca_Mtron_16K_HDTach.jpg?t=1217406672

However I think I was able to get the ICH9R on another board (maybe the BlackOps) to perform almost as fast as with the RAID card. So maybe Intel ironed out the SB bottlenecking the drives since last year when the issue was raised. Sorry couldn't give you a definitive answer as I've just reinstalled Vista and took forever to DL TF2 from Steam...:(
Anyway you will not regrete going with SSDs, makes you wonder how you've survived so long living with those noisy, hot, unreliable, sluggish HDDs!:up::up:


Material and restriction. Is the block any different than the Maximus/Striker block besides the color?
The block I can confirm is made out of copper (not sure about the barb though.. it is covered with paint), really heavy tbh, so should be no problem there. From what I can see the inside is just a few fat pins, and the water velocity coming into the res seems as fast as ever, so I wouldn't worry about that eighter. The RE block itself is extremely well made compaired to older ROG blocks, feels REALLY solid when I took it off reapplying TIM.


are there any pics yet without the heatsink?
haven't found anything at all :(
http://pic.xfastest.com/shihwolf/RampageExtreme/40.JPG

All the Rampage Extreme tech p0rn you could ever want (almost): XFastest (http://www.xfastest.com/viewthread.php?tid=11597&extra=page%3D1)


Great pics Eternal and good to see some familiar faces Slim & T.J....

Got a touch condition to the heatsink at the top of the board and about 2mm clearance to the NB passive cooler so really hoping that it doesn't lift the sink away from the CPU otherwise I will have to mod the chipset heatsink or change the Thermalright to my Zalman CNPS9500A - Zalman backplate for this is fine without any mods.
Indeed great to see those what were following the Maximus Extreme thread making their way to the Rampage Extreme:up::up::welcome:

rob you can try unscrewing the little red plate on the mosfet sinks (tiny screws), and slightly bend the pins touching away from heat pipes on your TRUE.

eternal_fantasy
07-30-2008, 01:07 AM
Think i'll take the red cover off and bend the pins over slightly so that there is no contact to the heatpipe.

Should have the system up and running tonight.

lol :up:

BIOS 0403: Thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196114) http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=712010&da=y

rob2k
07-30-2008, 01:43 AM
Great minds ................ !

sargatanas
07-30-2008, 02:11 AM
ty for the pic :)
seems like ek has to build a huge block for the sb...
btw: could u measure the distance between the nb screw holes? maybe an ek block could fit instead of the fusion block

eternal_fantasy
07-30-2008, 03:53 AM
ty for the pic :)
seems like ek has to build a huge block for the sb...
Whys that? the big plate to the left of the SB are not in contact with anything on the MB, so all you need is an old Asus SB block.


btw: could u measure the distance between the nb screw holes? maybe an ek block could fit instead of the fusion block

Using my high tech ruler and amazing eyesight, the distance between the 2 screws for the Fusion block is 52.5mm, for the NB mounting holes 62mm.

sargatanas
07-30-2008, 04:51 AM
ty =)
sounds good, so there won't be any problem to unmount the rollercoaster and get some sexy ek blocks :D

GLENBOY
07-30-2008, 05:33 AM
how do you use the tweakit function on the fly

thanks

Infa
07-30-2008, 06:38 AM
theres a buttio for option selection, to choose fsb vcore and that stuff, then theres a switch to change the values, then theres a button for "SET" and you can see all info on a little LCD display.. same as in previous boards as ME and the ddr2 boards.

seems REALLY nice, and no more using setfsb, and you can change the vcore on the fly!! so sweet!

Holmer
07-30-2008, 02:11 PM
Eternal, if it's not too much trouble, could you please find out how your SSDs perform on the ICH9R on this board. I kinda see that you have connected it to your raid card(or is it)and I know that its a full OS reinstall if you wanna connect it to the SB of the board. I am thinking going SSD route(OCZ core series or heck might even shelve out for the MTRON PROs) and also planning two 4870x2s in crossfire X, leaving no room for a controller. I saw ICH9R does not play very well with the SSDs but I so want this board. Please disregard if this is too much of trouble.

I suppose you already know but just in case. In order to avoid the famous 80MB/s speed cap on SSD on ICH9R you simply install you OS with the SATA mode set to RAID or ACHI (yes F6 and drivers on a floppy/USB). I have mine set to ACHI but tried RAID 0+1 as well on the ICH9R controller (however, with my Samsung F1) and I get the full 100 MB/s read performance I expect.

tekjunkie
07-30-2008, 05:17 PM
I suppose you already know but just in case. In order to avoid the famous 80MB/s speed cap on SSD on ICH9R you simply install you OS with the SATA mode set to RAID or ACHI (yes F6 and drivers on a floppy/USB). I have mine set to ACHI but tried RAID 0+1 as well on the ICH9R controller (however, with my Samsung F1) and I get the full 100 MB/s read performance I expect.

I didn't know that and thanks for the tip. Also, I am planning to run 4 64MB SSDs in Raid 0, so I would have to enable the RAID mode to install the OS anyway. I can always slipstream the drivers.

MnM
07-30-2008, 08:36 PM
Guys what DDR3 would you recommend for this?

Should I go for highend 2000MhZ? I have my eye on G.Skill PI 4GB G.Skill DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz TT (PI) Series (7-7-7-18) Dual Channel kit.

Not sure what to get. Can you please advise?
CPU will be QX9700 water cooled.

Thanks.

rob2k
07-30-2008, 10:50 PM
Got it all hooked up last night but tweaking time was limited. Vista install on current boot disk worked fine just needed Intel drivers and re-activation. So far blown away from bios options even after moving from Striker II Extreme. Could do with someone posting settings for 450x9 1800 sync & linked - It looks like you can now load bios settings from floppy or mem stick !.

PS - Can the pulsating light show of the buttons and Asus emblem be switched off ?....

My rig :QX9770 on Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme cooler
XFX GTX280 XT. Creative X-Fi Elite Pro.
OCZ 4x1Gb PC3-16000C9 2000Mhz Platinum EB
Samsung F1 1TB & 2X500Gb Hitachi SATA 2.
2xSamsung 20XDVD-RW SATA
Vista Ultimate 32bit
Asus Rampage Extreme
Bios : 0403

rob2k
07-31-2008, 12:18 AM
Good question MnM - I'm looking to change my 4x1Gb OCZ sticks ro 2x2Gb ??????????.

The Super Talent Project X looks competitive on paper but really need feedback from experiences on this board as don't want to have to buy a third set !!!.

MikeMK
07-31-2008, 12:22 AM
Well, i just couldnt resist in the end - especially with the problems ive been having with my striker II extreme over the last few weeks! Should arrive tomorrow. Oh, and for anyone in the UK, check out scan - they now have it, and its cheaper than OCUK -

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=856997

eternal_fantasy
07-31-2008, 01:43 AM
Guys what DDR3 would you recommend for this?

Should I go for highend 2000MhZ? I have my eye on G.Skill PI 4GB G.Skill DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz TT (PI) Series (7-7-7-18) Dual Channel kit.

Not sure what to get. Can you please advise?
CPU will be QX9700 water cooled.

Thanks.
The G.Skill should be great, the reviews on this forum and around the web has been very positive. I'm waiting for the HZ series, without the huge heat spreader..


Got it all hooked up last night but tweaking time was limited. Vista install on current boot disk worked fine just needed Intel drivers and re-activation. So far blown away from bios options even after moving from Striker II Extreme. Could do with someone posting settings for 450x9 1800 sync & linked - It looks like you can now load bios settings from floppy or mem stick !.

PS - Can the pulsating light show of the buttons and Asus emblem be switched off ?....

My rig :QX9770 on Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme cooler
XFX GTX280 XT. Creative X-Fi Elite Pro.
OCZ 4x1Gb PC3-16000C9 2000Mhz Platinum EB
Samsung F1 1TB & 2X500Gb Hitachi SATA 2.
2xSamsung 20XDVD-RW SATA
Vista Ultimate 32bit
Asus Rampage Extreme
Bios : 0403
I have been playing with my turd of a E8400, which I had previously only able to reach 575Mhz on the S2E, but on the RE it went over 600Mhz FSB!
I got it prime stable at 570x7, and was posible with only a slight raise of the NB voltage. (Don't mind the high VCore, as I said this CPU sucks..)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/570x7stable.jpg
I'll put in my QX9650 later on and see what I get, although it will be very different settings with you using 4x1GB and OCZ memory with Samsung chips...

2 way of turning the pulsating light off.. pull the light from the MB socket or switch your PSU off :ROTF: Don't think there is a BIOS option for it.. it may be hardwire/coded into the motherboard to get it working even when the MB is turned off.


Good question MnM - I'm looking to change my 4x1Gb OCZ sticks ro 2x2Gb ??????????.

The Super Talent Project X looks competitive on paper but really need feedback from experiences on this board as don't want to have to buy a third set !!!.
As I said before the G.Skill PI series seems to be quite cheap and are Micron IC based.. at least they were.


Well, i just couldnt resist in the end - especially with the problems ive been having with my striker II extreme over the last few weeks! Should arrive tomorrow. Oh, and for anyone in the UK, check out scan - they now have it, and its cheaper than OCUK -

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=856997
Welcome onboard!! you will fall in love with the board in no time. :up:

Some thought about this board at the moment:

The good:
It does amazing high FSBs even with crappy hardware
My CellShock 1800 D9GTR kits are absolutely loving this board, and vice versa
Heatpipes keep *most* component cool on the MB

The bad:
Using the onboard Fusion block keeps most of the components cool, except the NB... the design is that heat have to travel through layres of material that is kinda stuck together with a glue gun...:
----------------
Fusion block
copper plate
3 heatpipes side by side
copper plate
North Bridge
----------------
The design is extremely inefficient (it's like the heat have to travel through a sausage roll to get to the water block:shakes:), and although the fusion block feels cool to the touch, the NB was at 56C at 1.5V. And thats with reseated sinks with MX-2 applied. My Maximus Extreme with Mips block keeps the NB under 47C at 1.7V... :down:
My CellShock blue 1866 D9JNL sticks hates the RE, or the otherway around... but probably due to early BIOS. Can not get it to enter Windows without BSOD/restart.

Infa
07-31-2008, 01:44 AM
it doesnt seem as they are shipping outside UK? doesnt look like that :( or do they?

eternal_fantasy
07-31-2008, 01:50 AM
it doesnt seem as they are shipping outside UK? doesnt look like that :( or do they?

You can try asking at the Scan forum:
http://forums.hexus.net/scan-care-hexus/

There are always pretty quick to reply. :up:

rob2k
07-31-2008, 02:05 AM
Nice results Eternal Fantasy - that's a great FSB :D !!! - will be interesting to see your 9650 results.

Had problems getting mine to boot at 450x8 (I know the CPU is good for 4100Hz so 450x9 will be normal until 500x8 holy grail is reached) with relaxed timings to get memory running at 1800 - I think it is due to perhaps me missing a bios option as it is quite different from the SIIE. Any bios settings that you had to change would be useful :)

My rig :QX9770-C1 on Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme cooler
XFX GTX280 XT. Creative X-Fi Elite Pro.
OCZ 4x1Gb PC3-16000C9 2000Mhz Platinum EB
Samsung F1 1TB & 2X500Gb Hitachi SATA 2.
2xSamsung 20XDVD-RW SATA
Vista Ultimate 32bit
Asus Rampage Extreme :Bios : 0403
CM Stacker 832 5x120 fans.

eternal_fantasy
07-31-2008, 05:52 AM
Nice results Eternal Fantasy - that's a great FSB :D !!! - will be interesting to see your 9650 results.

Had problems getting mine to boot at 450x8 (I know the CPU is good for 4100Hz so 450x9 will be normal until 500x8 holy grail is reached) with relaxed timings to get memory running at 1800 - I think it is due to perhaps me missing a bios option as it is quite different from the SIIE. Any bios settings that you had to change would be useful :)
Just put in my QX9650 and booted into windows with 450x9:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/450quad.jpg

Some quick & dirty voltage settings:
VCore 1.45V
VNB 1.5V
PLL 1.2V
VTT 1.35V
VDimm 2.0V

Strap 333
Clock Twister Moderate
The-one-below-clocktwister AUTO

Try with 2 sticks of ram first, then add the rest when you get it stable.
I'll be tightening things and see how high my 9650 will go FSB wise:D

Holmer
07-31-2008, 06:19 AM
Just put in my QX9650 and booted into windows with 450x9:

Some quick & dirty voltage settings:
VCore 1.45V
VNB 1.5V
PLL 1.2V
VTT 1.35V
VDimm 2.0V

Strap 333
Clock Twister Moderate
The-one-below-clocktwister AUTO

Try with 2 sticks of ram first, then add the rest when you get it stable.
I'll be tightening things and see how high my 9650 will go FSB wise:D

Please perform some more long term stability tests soon at FSB 450+ with memory 1:2 with your QX9650 (e.g. Prime blend for 24 h+).

rob2k
07-31-2008, 06:33 AM
Thanks Eternal Fantasy :clap:

Will have some time this evening when I get home - great settings and at 1T command rate too !. I am really begining to think that my 4x1Gb sticks are holding me back. Looking into what 2x2Gb memory kit to buy in the UK that will hit 2000Hz. Need to check the manual to see if the white or blue sockets are preferred when using 2 sticks.

eternal_fantasy
07-31-2008, 07:28 AM
Some background history of my QX9650...

Brought it last year when it was first avaliable in the UK, and it's been in a Striker II Extreme, Maximus Extreme, Maximus Formula, BlockOps, EVGA 790i, and now finally in the Rampage Extreme.

The highest FSB I was able to get in these motherboards:
Maximus Extreme - 458
Maximus Formula - 456
BlackOps - 440
EVGA 790i - 425
Striker II Extreme - no idea, system file corrupted whenever overclocked:brick:

Now I thought the pinnicle of my 9650's FSB should be around 460, which I thought was OK ish.

Then came the Rampage Extreme.

As per my previous post, RE handled 450FSB without problem.
Then I tried stright to 470Mhz for laughs:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/470x8quad.jpg


Hmm intresting I thought.

then 480Mhz
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/480x8quad.jpg


:shocked::shocked::shocked: pretty much sums up what I had in mind.

But what the hell, might as well try 490Mhz....
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/eternal_fantasy_86/490x8quad.jpg

:party::party::shoot::banana::banana::bounces: :rocker:
And all voltage are within safe limits for watercooling, maybe even on air, and I hadn't even touched the skew and GTL settings etc :D:D:D

I can confidently say, even at this early point that it has to be the best motherboard I have ever used (all my mobos in sig), in it's ease of overclocking, cooling, and stability. Well done ASUS!! :clap::bows::bows::bows:

More results to follow!

eternal_fantasy
07-31-2008, 07:43 AM
Please perform some more long term stability tests soon at FSB 450+ with memory 1:2 with your QX9650 (e.g. Prime blend for 24 h+).

First I will try and push all my hardware to the limits and see how far they'll go, then an hour or two of ORTHOS blend and I'm happy for my 24/7 settings. I don't have any mission critical tasks to perform on my PC, and 2 hours of priming will be more then enough to ensure stable gaming. Also it's frigin hot here in london and I see no reason to have a 500W heater on full power for days to create a sauna out of my room...:shrug:

But please, post back on how you get on with the prime marathon.:)

ShoNuff
07-31-2008, 10:20 AM
@eternal_fantasy - Nice clocks! :up: Good to know that the Rampage is so much better than the eVGA 790i. I will be upgrading as soon as this board becomes available on this side of the pond.

MikeMK
07-31-2008, 10:34 AM
Eternal - WOW! Great results... now im seriously looking forward to getting this board. My QX9650 will do 445FSB on the S2E at 1.35v vcore so im really looking forward to seeing what it can do on the RE. Roll on tomorrow!!! :D

One quick question - u mention about the 'sandwich' cooling solution with the fusion block. Do u think its actually worth using this then? Do u know what your temps were with the passive solution? Just wondering if its worth the effort. I take it you cant watercool the NB with a different block without replacing all the cooling for the SB/PWM's etc.

Oh, and yeah... its way too hot in London atm.. my PC room is roasting even when im just surfing the net lol!

mr2sw21
07-31-2008, 10:56 AM
is there any way or any where I can just buy that heat sink (in red circle) I want that to be on my maximus II formula. If anyone selling that please let me know.

eternal_fantasy
07-31-2008, 12:45 PM
@eternal_fantasy - Nice clocks! :up: Good to know that the Rampage is so much better than the eVGA 790i. I will be upgrading as soon as this board becomes available on this side of the pond.
Should be soon now... good luck :up:



One quick question - u mention about the 'sandwich' cooling solution with the fusion block. Do u think its actually worth using this then? Do u know what your temps were with the passive solution? Just wondering if its worth the effort. I take it you cant watercool the NB with a different block without replacing all the cooling for the SB/PWM's etc.
I went stright to water cooling when I got my board, so no idea how the air cooling will be, but I can't imagine how watercooling will be worse off compared to air. They both attach to the same copper plate. I have also thought of using my own waterblocks, but that means you need to replace the mosfet of the CPU area and the NB (I guess you can stick some ramsinks on those) and the SB... maybe EK will release a block that cools the NB and its mosfets?:D

Holmer
07-31-2008, 01:43 PM
First I will try and push all my hardware to the limits and see how far they'll go, then an hour or two of ORTHOS blend and I'm happy for my 24/7 settings. I don't have any mission critical tasks to perform on my PC, and 2 hours of priming will be more then enough to ensure stable gaming. Also it's frigin hot here in london and I see no reason to have a 500W heater on full power for days to create a sauna out of my room...:shrug:

But please, post back on how you get on with the prime marathon.:)

I don't want to argue about how you define a 24/7 stable OC and the FSB you reached is indeed great. However, these FSB are not exceptional with other motherboards (I know for sure on the WS Evolution) and a QX9650 especially with the 4/5 memory divider. Please don't get me wrong but if the settings are only stable to check email and post a SS what's the use (I know it is preliminary tests). As mentioned my point is, it puts a lot more stress on the MB (and naturally the memory) to use the 1:2 memory divider. Therefore to me a FSB of 450+ is only really impressive with memory running DDR 1800 (and preferably 2x2 GB of memory). For instance my MB can prime for 10-20 h at 9x445 but will crap out within minutes in a game. At 426x9.5 I can Prime for 70 h (even I know that is excessive:p:) and games run perfect. If I use the 4/5 memory divider and FSB around 450 games are fine but performance sucks. I would love to see the RE handle FSB 450+ with 2x2GB memory 1:2.
I really don't mean to be a party pooper and I sincerely appreciate your tests with your QX9650, but I am not so excited before I have seen som Orthos/OCCT/Prime/game stability with memory running synced :up:

BTW I use my PC for scientific work sometimes so I require another level of stability.

eternal_fantasy
07-31-2008, 03:09 PM
I don't want to argue about how you define a 24/7 stable OC and the FSB you reached is indeed great. However, these FSB are not exceptional with other motherboards (I know for sure on the WS Evolution) and a QX9650 especially with the 4/5 memory divider. Please don't get me wrong but if the settings are only stable to check email and post a SS what's the use (I know it is preliminary tests). As mentioned my point is, it puts a lot more stress on the MB (and naturally the memory) to use the 1:2 memory divider. Therefore to me a FSB of 450+ is only really impressive with memory running DDR 1800 (and preferably 2x2 GB of memory). For instance my MB can prime for 10-20 h at 9x445 but will crap out within minutes in a game. At 426x9.5 I can Prime for 70 h (even I know that is excessive:p:) and games run perfect. If I use the 4/5 memory divider and FSB around 450 games are fine but performance sucks. I would love to see the RE handle FSB 450+ with 2x2GB memory 1:2.
I really don't mean to be a party pooper and I sincerely appreciate your tests with your QX9650, but I am not so excited before I have seen som Orthos/OCCT/Prime/game stability with memory running synced :up:

BTW I use my PC for scientific work sometimes so I require another level of stability.

Believe it or not, I'm not an Asus employee, and am not trying to impress or showoff what I brought in an attempt to "impress" you into buying the board. To be honest I really couldn't care less. However what I CAN and are happy to do is to try and answer reasonable questions, and try reasonable settings on the board. What I will not do is put my newly installed rig out of commission (try gaming while priming) for a day, sucking juice out of my wall socket, in an attempt to impress a guy over the internet, so he can make up his mind, and be confident about his purchase. As I said before, what you do with your own system is your business, and I will be helpful if the request is resonable. When was the last time you saw an online review site show you a screenshot of a 24H+ primed stable overclocked system? If they won't do it even when they get paied, I as hell won't.

FYI my system is running fine 470x8.5 1:2 1880Mhz mem, played TF2 for 3 hours absolutely fine.

No hard feelings btw, its just how I do things... maybe you can get one of the others that has the board to test it for you.:up:

eternal_fantasy
07-31-2008, 03:17 PM
Hay ladies and gentleman of this thread, please make your way to 3oh6's "Live MB OC Report :: ASUS Rampage Extreme (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196683)", so we can keep all our info together for the Rampage Extreme motherboard.

Will be a huge asset for us with such knowledgeable guy as 3oh6, and the Intel page seems very much more alive then the review page :D

Anyway HEAD OVER THERE NOW!!!! (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196683)

All follow up posts will be on that thread---

EF

Olly_K
08-17-2008, 10:19 AM
does anyone else's rampage extreme ROG light and start button flash on and off when your shutdown ?

Mine doesn...just wondered if it's normal. My striker II extreme ROG light stayed on all the time.

slim142
08-17-2008, 12:29 PM
Yeah when I shut down, my ROG light and power/reset buttons also stay on.
I dont like it much, but oh well.

Olly_K
08-17-2008, 01:36 PM
but mine dont stay on permanently, they flash on and off !

slim142
08-17-2008, 02:08 PM
I wouldnt be able to say anything. I dont own the rampage extreme.

elmor
08-17-2008, 02:14 PM
but mine dont stay on permanently, they flash on and off !

Pull the powercord? :D

I've had little time to test this board further recently :(

ACE76
08-19-2008, 11:48 AM
This board is available at Newegg now for an astounding $400! To all the Evolution users that have this as well - is it worth getting this if you have the Evolution already? If your looking to get one of them, is it worth the extra money to get the Rampage Extreme??

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131334

vega22
08-22-2008, 06:20 AM
SOS:
I have removed the entire Asus heatsink for use Artic Silver and I have off many little washers, which have the heatsink in each screw hole (very littles and blacks) But now i count washers and i have one more than holes free! Does anyone know what hole should have two washers instead of one?
Thanks!


is there any way or any where I can just buy that heat sink (in red circle) I want that to be on my maximus II formula. If anyone selling that please let me know.

This heatsink sucks. I had the Maximus II Formula with only the back washers trick and i had 43º in NB. Now with my Rampage, washers trick, AS and this heatsink i have 47º.

KanGaXx
08-22-2008, 09:51 AM
umh guys,

i have a problem with heat of this chipset... i used the liquid cooling with the fusion block of this mobo but @ default the temperature are 42 degrees.... with air cooling around 53 degrees.... its normal??

i tryed 1,65vNB with liquido and chipset was @ 65 degress..............................

ofc ???

Computerville
08-22-2008, 12:21 PM
umh guys,

i have a problem with heat of this chipset... i used the liquid cooling with the fusion block of this mobo but @ default the temperature are 42 degrees.... with air cooling around 53 degrees.... its normal??

i tryed 1,65vNB with liquido and chipset was @ 65 degress..............................

ofc ???- It´s totally normal, nothing to worrie about.

jorgito05
08-22-2008, 06:32 PM
I know this is going to sound dumb, but what is the red wire that coms out of the NB heat sinks ans plugs into the boars where it sais rog? is this heat sink fan?

rockqc
08-22-2008, 08:55 PM
It's for the LED light underneath the ROG logo on the NB.

BoeZombie
08-23-2008, 12:38 PM
i set DRAM 2.0v in BIOS,but it always shows 1.80v,how to make it?

KanGaXx
08-23-2008, 02:20 PM
hello guys,
if i use 400 strap, for example 600mhz fsb ram @1800mhz why windows show 1000 mhz on ram ?
windows shows 3:5 but bios 2:3...its a bug ?

3oh6
08-23-2008, 02:33 PM
i set DRAM 2.0v in BIOS,but it always shows 1.80v,how to make it?
if your using 0404 BIOS then that is it, go back to 0403. if not, then i don't know.


hello guys,
if i use 400 strap, for example 600mhz fsb ram @1800mhz why windows show 1000 mhz on ram ?
windows shows 3:5 but bios 2:3...its a bug ?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=199241 - all you need to know about it.

BoeZombie
08-23-2008, 11:47 PM
if your using 0404 BIOS then that is it, go back to 0403. if not, then i don't know.

Thx!!!you are right!its ok now!

KanGaXx
08-24-2008, 01:34 AM
thx@all

another question :) :
i have my sistem working on a benching table and yesterday i was trying to resolve a problem with some cables and i touched the rear of my motherboard causing the sistem reset, i tryed to touch pcb andmove it casusing another reset.. can be a ground problem ? i have the motherboard on the benching table without all support for the motherboardand maybe if someone is miss can cause that ??

or can be ?

TheKarmakazi
08-25-2008, 07:44 AM
The Super Talent Project X looks competitive on paper but really need feedback from experiences on this board as don't want to have to buy a third set !!!.

Not sure if you were still deciding, but I got 2 retail kits of ProjectX (the 7-6-6-x 1600Mhz and the 7-7-7-x 1800Mhz). Both are D9GTR and both have overclocked really well. I recommend them to anyone! the 1600mhz kit can hit @ 2.05v - 917MHz 7-6-6-18 1T (P1 & P2 enabled on the 790i), but CAS8 clocks really dont impress. The 1800Mhz kit can do @ 2.05v - 963Mhz 7-7-6-18 1T, or @2.075v - 1040Mhz 8-8-7-21 1T.

Stability for me is 32M, not prime95 or anything...

NeverMore
08-25-2008, 12:47 PM
It looks .. so pretty. O-o ...

I need me one of those. (Nice results by the way mate.) :clap:

KanGaXx
08-29-2008, 08:24 AM
i have an 8600 with this board.

i have core 0 and core 1.

which is the setting CPU GTL for the cpu 1 ? (its the second core )

dpa
08-29-2008, 10:48 AM
hey guys,

just got the board, and it powers off randomly.. took a look at the bios.

checked temp settings and found out that the NB was at 75C in bios.. the heatsink is not even hot at all, anybody with same problem..?

flashed til 0301 now, same :banana::banana::banana::banana:...

Expat GriZ
08-29-2008, 01:06 PM
thx@all

another question :) :
i have my sistem working on a benching table and yesterday i was trying to resolve a problem with some cables and i touched the rear of my motherboard causing the sistem reset, i tryed to touch pcb andmove it casusing another reset.. can be a ground problem ? i have the motherboard on the benching table without all support for the motherboardand maybe if someone is miss can cause that ??

or can be ?

@aerie; I also had this happen, but it just went into an endless reboot cycle. I have it open on my desk for benching and was placing some fans when it just went bananas. :shocked: Only way I could get it back was to pull the battery, have dinner + a couple slurps. Now I'm back in. Don't know what the heck happened.:shrug:

@@@@
08-29-2008, 02:53 PM
:( now I am a little scared successive post with problems with the Rampage Extreme I already have the motherboard just waiting for the other parts to arrive

just want to ask does anybody know what DDR3 Kits over@locker886 is using? I know its a Micron D9JNM chip but what brand? i know you need a little luck to get DDR3 modules that good but just want to ask :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=195122

KanGaXx
08-30-2008, 02:34 AM
@aerie; I also had this happen, but it just went into an endless reboot cycle. I have it open on my desk for benching and was placing some fans when it just went bananas. :shocked: Only way I could get it back was to pull the battery, have dinner + a couple slurps. Now I'm back in. Don't know what the heck happened.:shrug:

now i have placed correctly all skrews and seems to be ok .

what u mean with bananas ?

eternal_fantasy
08-30-2008, 05:02 AM
Guys.. the thread OP had not had more time with this board, so we had moved to another thread to discuss the Rampage Extreme. Most of the information can be found between this thread and the following through the link:


Hay ladies and gentleman of this thread, please make your way to 3oh6's "Live MB OC Report :: ASUS Rampage Extreme (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196683)", so we can keep all our info together for the Rampage Extreme motherboard.

Will be a huge asset for us with such knowledgeable guy as 3oh6, and the Intel page seems very much more alive then the review page :D

Anyway HEAD OVER THERE NOW!!!! (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196683)

All follow up posts will be on that thread---

EF

Expat GriZ
08-30-2008, 10:43 PM
now i have placed correctly all skrews and seems to be ok .

what u mean with bananas ?

@aerie; Glad to hear that you got it sorted. "Bananas" is slang for "it went crazy" or "nuts"

Leeghoofd
09-02-2008, 12:02 AM
hey guys,

just got the board, and it powers off randomly.. took a look at the bios.

checked temp settings and found out that the NB was at 75C in bios.. the heatsink is not even hot at all, anybody with same problem..?

flashed til 0301 now, same :banana::banana::banana::banana:...


Seems bad contact between NB and heatpipe mate, no bios will solve that, only one thing to do : pop it off and verify the TIM and replace with new one... I always use Arctic ceramique on the chipsets...

ric9887
09-02-2008, 11:35 PM
Pull the powercord? :D

I've had little time to test this board further recently :(


does anyone else's rampage extreme ROG light and start button flash on and off when your shutdown ?

Mine doesn...just wondered if it's normal. My striker II extreme ROG light stayed on all the time.

Maybe its related, but I had the light behind the confirm button go out and stay out when the others were on. I guessed it was a faulty switch (although the switch still worked fine) I then did a clear CMOS (button on the backplate) and it came back on and has stayed working. Maybe it was coincidence, but its odd it came back after a clear CMOS.

You can stop the ROG logo flashing when its off using the BIOS (404) setting Advanced/LCD Poster+LED Control/ROG Logo

KanGaXx
09-03-2008, 09:00 AM
http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/39748bec22715a40.jpg

THIS IS MY PROBLEM OF RESET,
i have my system mounted on a benching table and i found that if i touch with my finger those 2 contact the sistem RESET. not always but if i touch those sometimes it Reset, i have tryed 4-5 times and after 2-3 touch sistem reset!!

what can be ??

MrHydes
09-11-2008, 03:37 PM
quite nice review elmor ... :up:

giorgos th.
09-30-2008, 07:18 AM
any new on the LLC issue?
with 0501 and a E8600 i cant give more than 1.80000V in bios without issues with LLC enabled..

KanGaXx
11-30-2008, 11:07 AM
someone know vmem read on this mb?

MrHydes
01-20-2009, 11:56 AM
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp94/MrHydez/Spi9.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp94/MrHydez/cachemem12236.png

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=451091

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http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp94/MrHydez/cpu-3599.jpg

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp94/MrHydez/cpu-4845.jpg

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=485296

Nuckin_Futs
01-30-2009, 02:59 PM
I am very interested in a DDR3 based x48 ASUS. I am looking at either this or the P5E64-WS Workstation version. What can you guys say inpraise of this compared to the P5E3 or WS versions? I plan to OC a Q9550 and OC'd DDR1800, and later mess w/ DDR2000. Can I get a quick recap on teh pros and cons of this mobo?

Thanx in advance!